| lotuspsychje | morning guys | 08:09 |
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| lotuspsychje | here's a graph eric made of 2016-2017 to prove the users drop when +r was set: https://imgur.com/a/M5LnW | 08:10 |
| lotuspsychje | still waiting for ben64's graph, but i bet its gonna be the same | 08:11 |
| lotuspsychje | another idea of alkisg is to set freenode webchat to #ubuntu without reggister, so the captcha can bypass the spammer? | 08:12 |
| lotuspsychje | https://imgur.com/a/MBAip new graph | 08:13 |
| lotuspsychje | tnx and let it know to el unite & dax plz | 08:14 |
| CarlFK | lotuspsychje: the graph doesn't make me think anything should be changed | 15:58 |
| Pici | When did we set +r? | 16:04 |
| Pici | heres my channel population info going back to 4/1/2016: http://nullcortex.com/upload/screenshots/chrome_2017-12-20_11-06-01.png | 16:06 |
| Pici | (ubottu reports channel population info directly into graphite) | 16:09 |
| dax | Pici: unsurprisingly, around 2017-6, I believe | 16:18 |
| dax | I'm not a huge fan of raw log size, since it presumably includes JOIN/PART/QUIT and of *course* they're going to go through the floor with +r | 16:19 |
| dax | https://i.imgur.com/A9kVw7H.png is using irclogs.ubuntu.com logfiles, so it's just actual messages. and it's per-day not per-month, so a bit more detailed | 16:19 |
| Pici | http://nullcortex.com/upload/screenshots/chrome_2017-12-20_11-19-51.png | 16:20 |
| Pici | Thats population and activity (lines per second) | 16:20 |
| Pici | going back a little further for comparison: http://nullcortex.com/upload/screenshots/chrome_2017-12-20_11-20-42.png | 16:21 |
| dax | *nod* | 16:22 |
| dax | anyway. that said, the graph I linked and the graph lotuspsychje linked show broadly the same trend, so at least we're working off the same sort of data there | 16:25 |
| dax | I think there are *two* notable things about Pici's user count graph: 1) after +r was set, channel population went down over time for a bit, presumably as unidentified users fell out of the channel, and 2) the channel population has been stable since about a month after that (ignoring what I assume is a freenode outage in mid-August and the 17.10 release in mid-October) | 16:27 |
| dax | Unless I'm not reading it right, Pici's activity graph shows a lot less variance than mine does, I'm curious as to what the difference is there. | 16:28 |
| dax | although I guess it's ~1/s to 0.5/s over the course of the year, which is sufficiently concerning in and of itself | 16:29 |
| Dreaman | remove my bann i month | 16:54 |
| Dreaman | more | 16:54 |
| Dreaman | just mute | 16:54 |
| Dreaman | i use ubuntu 2007 | 16:55 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 2007 in openoffice.org2 (Ubuntu) "can't upgrade opneoffice.org2-common or -base" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2007 | 16:55 |
| dax | thanks ubottu | 16:55 |
| dax | Dreaman: looking, sec | 16:55 |
| dax | Dreaman: you going to behave this time? | 16:56 |
| Dreaman | no | 16:57 |
| Dreaman | nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F | 16:57 |
| Dreaman | System: Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 4.14.8-041408-generic x86_64 bits: 64 | 16:57 |
| Dreaman | Desktop: Gnome 3.26.2 Distro: Ubuntu 17.10 | 16:57 |
| Dreaman | just use ubuntu | 16:57 |
| Dreaman | 10 years | 16:57 |
| dax | was that "no" meaning you're not going to behave? | 16:58 |
| dax | I don't care how long you've been using Ubuntu, I care whether you're going to mess around in #ubuntu if I unban you or not. | 16:58 |
| Dreaman | no | 16:58 |
| Dreaman | ok | 16:58 |
| Dreaman | just unbann me | 16:59 |
| dax | can you actually clearly answer my question | 16:59 |
| dax | "yes I am going to behave" or "no i am not going to behave" | 17:00 |
| Dreaman | no | 17:00 |
| dax | then go ahead and part the channel and come back when you decide you're going to behave, thanks | 17:00 |
| dax | as you're well aware, we have channel guidelines, and if you're not going to behave and follow them, you ain't getting unquieted | 17:01 |
| dax | !guidelines | 17:01 |
| ubottu | The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 17:01 |
| Dreaman | * Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned). | 17:01 |
| Dreaman | my eng is not good | 17:02 |
| Dreaman | yes | 17:02 |
| Dreaman | may be ask to | 17:02 |
| dax | Yes, I've noticed that your English proficiency drops through the floor whenever you want unbanning. It doesn't really help you. | 17:03 |
| Dreaman | unbann me | 17:03 |
| Dreaman | 1 month i bann | 17:04 |
| Dreaman | is normal | 17:04 |
| Dreaman | but | 17:04 |
| wxl | Dreaman: i have an easy solution for getting unbanned. interested? | 17:04 |
| Dreaman | ask oper bann me log | 17:05 |
| Dreaman | see | 17:05 |
| Dreaman | nothing | 17:05 |
| Dreaman | log oper bann me reasen | 17:05 |
| Dreaman | no | 17:06 |
| wxl | not interested, got it. | 17:06 |
| Dreaman | heh | 17:06 |
| Dreaman | just bann for nothing | 17:06 |
| Dreaman | ok | 17:06 |
| dax | If that's your interpretation of things, then you're better off using a non-English-language channel that you can actually interpret in a reasonable manner. | 17:07 |
| Dreaman | remove bann 1 min i see the log | 17:07 |
| Dreaman | my hexchat | 17:07 |
| Dreaman | ant pastebin ubuntu | 17:07 |
| Dreaman | ubuntu-bulgarian not users in | 17:08 |
| Dreaman | remove bann and mute me | 17:09 |
| Dreaman | simple | 17:09 |
| Dreaman | no chat | 17:09 |
| dax | Why would I want to do that? | 17:09 |
| Dreaman | your choice | 17:10 |
| dax | You're quite capable of reading logs without being in the channel | 17:10 |
| dax | !1984 | 17:10 |
| ubottu | Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ | 17:10 |
| Dreaman | no bann no mute | 17:10 |
| Dreaman | i permanent bann may be 1 month and more bann | 17:11 |
| Dreaman | just aks | 17:11 |
| dax | I'm not going to unban you unless you can come up with a coherent assurance that you will not misbehave. That said, your inability to follow directions in here leads me to suspect I shouldn't unban you even *if* you manage to come up with one, because *#ubuntu is clearly not the right place for someone who does not understand simple English* | 17:11 |
| dax | as evidenced by you *repeatedly* failing to follow instructions and *repeatedly* getting banned | 17:11 |
| Dreaman | ok | 17:12 |
| Dreaman | i joint but no need this | 17:13 |
| Dreaman | dax 1 year 3 month | 17:19 |
| Dreaman | forever | 17:19 |
| Dreaman | ? | 17:20 |
| dax | Bans aren't time-based, they're removed based on you demonstrating that you will not repeat the behavior that got you banned. | 17:20 |
| dax | Coming into #ubuntu-ops and repeating the behavior that got you banned is not a good way to get the ban removed. | 17:21 |
| Dreaman | ok | 17:21 |
| dax | @mark #ubuntu-ops Dreaman | 17:21 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 17:21 |
| dax | @comment 77462 declined to remove ban despite expiration date on previous comment. See mark 77578. tl;dr: he is incoherent as ever | 17:22 |
| ubottu | Comment added. | 17:22 |
| el | he asked me if he could be downgraded to a quiet | 20:20 |
| el | 07:37 <Dreaman> hi remove my bann in ubuntu is 1 month | 20:20 |
| el | 07:37 <Dreaman> mute me | 20:20 |
| el | 07:37 <Dreaman> is good idea | 20:20 |
| dax | yeah, I told him no on that above | 20:21 |
| dax | irclogs.ubuntu.com exists, he's quite capable of using it | 20:21 |
| el | true | 20:21 |
| dax | he's just gonna start PMing crap to people if he's +q | 20:21 |
| el | and i apparently missed that line when scrolling up | 20:21 |
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