[00:03] <Hg203> are there instructions for how to install kubuntu without having a windows install on the drive first?
[00:03] <Hg203> i'm using a usb stick and it seems to assume that you have windows already
[00:03] <Hg203> it's 17.10
[00:04] <Hg203> ..if i run the installer, i get past language, and then it says the drive has only 8gb of space so it can't install (which i guess it's trying to use the usb stick)
[00:05] <Hg203> in /dev there's an sda1 that seems to be mounted to /cdrom but not sure where the hard drive is
[00:07] <Hg203> hm.. anyone awake?
[00:20] <maggux> what kind of hdd do you have?
[00:21] <Hg203> seagate green
[00:21] <Hg203> barracuda green
[00:21] <Hg203> it's sata 3
[00:23] <maggux> and you have no /dev/sdb or c? just /dev/sda?
[00:24] <Hg203> yeah, i have a sg0.. but no sg
[00:24] <Hg203> just sda and sda1 which is /cdrom
[00:27] <maggux> and I guess your cdrom/dvdrom is also connected on a sata port?
[00:30] <maggux> somehow linux didnt detect your sata port and/or your hdd
[00:31] <Hg203> i don't have a cdrom it's a liveusb
[00:31] <Hg203> i made it in windows using a gui tool
[00:32] <maggux> yes the liveusb-sticks mosttime are emulated as cdom-images.
[00:33] <Hg200> yeah it's mounted as /cdrom
[00:34] <Hg200> which is sda1
[00:34] <maggux> can you do an cat /proc/scsi
[00:36] <Hg202> k, got my netbook set up so i can reboot the new box
[00:37] <maggux>  cat /proc/scsi/scsi
[00:37] <maggux> there was a doubble scsi, sorry
[00:38] <Hg200> the file scsi inside the dir right?
[00:38] <Hg200> it seems to only detect the usb stick
[00:40] <maggux> my guess is, it didnt detect your scsci-system. thats sad.
[00:42] <Hg200> hm. how's it usually do that?
[00:44] <maggux> for me it just worked. perhaps you can try to switch some settings in the bios. .. but Im afraid, I have no further ideas here.
[00:46] <Hg200> ok. well, i'm still here on my netbook, but i'm going to reboot this box and see what i can figure out in earlier stages of boot
[00:52] <Hg202> i tried "boot from first hard disk" and it's loaded into BusyBox v1.22.1
[00:53] <Hg202> is that a liveusb / livecd feature or is this just built into my drive?
[00:54] <Hg202> no i tried looking in /proc/scsi/scsi again and it's the same stick
[00:55] <Hg202> is the OEM install option the old 'alternate installer' option?
[00:57] <Hg202> ok well that took me to the same sort of install menu gui but then it crapped out again with the same error and booted to live mode
[01:05] <Hg202> haha the windows liveusb i have installer can't find the drive either!
[01:05] <Hg202> i should check what came with this drive
[01:17] <Hg202> ok so i feel stupid. the hdd cable got loose while i was checking internal components
[01:17] <Hg202> but i've gotten uefi to see the drive and am booting into the installer liveusb again
[01:17] <Hg202> i'll see if this works
[01:19] <Hg202> whee this time i've gotten to the 'prepare' step
[01:20] <Hg202> ok it's showing me disk setup. i think it may actually function now maybe :)
[01:40] <Hg202> so like, what % of hard drive space should be devoted to windows (for later, not installing now) relative to kubuntu?
[01:40] <Hg202> i mean like, recommendations
[01:46] <Hg202> so like i'm on this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes
[01:47] <Hg202> it seems to think i can format a partition to ntfs but i see no such option, only fat32
[01:48] <Hg202> i figure 100gb is more than enough for the windows partition right?
[01:48] <Hg202> i'm formatting it to fat32 for now .. i'll have it become ntfs later as needed when i install windows
[01:48] <Hg202> does that seem normal?
[01:57] <Hg202> hm. according to this site, i should use ext3 for /boot but it also says not to create a separate /boot
[01:57] <Hg202> what's the deal with setting up the LVM
[01:59] <Hg202> anyway i'm going to do some other stuff now
[01:59] <Hg202> but if anyone has any thoughts feel free to say so, and also feel free to PM me
[03:08] <Hg202> can anyone tell me how to produce this sort of partition table: https://pastebin.aquilenet.fr/?2abbca6ba0889989#MIdioyh/i2nsKl8vPs0iK6olpTyQhe2+AzOWkaBNV1U=
[03:09] <Hg202> ..the 17.10 installer seems to want to only make LVMs on automatic mode, and then it produces a lot of far more confusing stuff than i quite get.. but i'm not sure it'll work with a later windows install
[03:20] <Hg202> so anyway the installer using guided with LVM (no encrypt) option seems to 1- not be guided but rather create some automatic partition table i don't even understand, which doesn't seem to really make sense to install windows into any of later.
[03:21] <Hg202> but more importantly, i get to the part where it copies files and after that it crashes saying that it can't update grub
[03:22] <Hg202> ah here it is. says "executing 'grub-install /dev/dm-0' failed. this is a fatal error."
[03:34] <Hg202> k nm i'm using kde partition manager to set things up myself fully, then i'll select the installation point for the bootable device for install, maybe that'll work
[04:02] <Hg200> https://imgur.com/CT2XGCA
[04:02] <Hg200> should i move /boot and stuff to the end so that it can freely resize between ntfs and /stor later?
[04:10] <Hg200> https://imgur.com/ehtyyrO
[04:10] <Hg200> that other table didn't work; spat errors when trying to format it that way. this one worked though
[04:20] <Hg200> though apparently kde partition manager treats the intitial 1mb of space as hidden / automatic, while the installer explicitly shows it, so i didn't need to try to add it in kde part man
[04:20] <Hg200> gr
[04:20] <Hg200> er. mgr
[05:20] <Hg202> ok so i've now realized two things. 1- my box doesn't like to actually boot into uefi mode. it uses uefi but it boots only in legacy mode for some reason
[05:20] <Hg202> parted -l says it's a gpt file system, but i'm not sure what's up with that.
[05:20] <Hg202> i think i just confused it by doing it this way.. i need to set up a new part table
[05:33] <redphantom_> Im on 17.10 - my Internet doesn't connect automatically on startup ever since configuring openvpn to connect via the NetworkManager GUI. I always need to press "Connect" manually and things connect just fine. I have the automatically connect option selected, but still no dice. Any ideas?
 Good day everyone!
 Any idea if the Kubuntu 16.04.3 iso is broken?
 I'm trying to install from a usb but no luck so far
 Sums ok, usb ok (tested on one 2.0 and one 3.0) bios/uefi modes checked
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/M6sy1Ili/file_3858.jpg Always ends like this
 Tried making the live images with DD and etcher, same result
[07:02] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:57] <spearlman> What's the nicest way to tell apt to keep a number (let's say 3) of old kernels around?  (i.e. so autoremove doesn't get rid of them)
[07:58] <spearlman> For a temporary fix, I don't mind just telling apt not to autoremove kernels at all
[08:05] <spearlman> ahh.. it looks like this stuff is all generated from /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal ...
[08:06] <spearlman> I don't really wanna screw around with that.. not as simple as a variable to set, clearly
[08:10] <lordievader> spearlman: What are  you trying to do?
[08:25] <redphantom_> Im on 17.10 - my Internet doesn't connect automatically on startup ever since configuring openvpn to connect via the NetworkManager GUI. I always need to press "Connect" manually and things connect just fine. I have the automatically connect option selected, but still no dice. Any ideas?
[10:30] <Guest23608> high
[10:31] <Guest23608> Can somebody tell me how I can load the images in the startscreen of Konquerer?
[10:32] <Guest23608> High
[10:32] <Guest23608> Can somebody tell me how I can load the images in the startscreen of Konquerer?
[13:47] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:05] <zaapiel> i need help
[14:06] <zaapiel> my audio isnt working
[14:06] <zaapiel> 'it shows in the tab as 100% but no sound is coming out
[14:07] <zaapiel> anyway to check to see if its being regestered
[14:44] <lordievader> !ask | zaapiel
[14:46] <lordievader> It?
[14:46] <lordievader> Oh, he left.
[14:47] <BluesKaj> his patience only lasted 4 mins
[16:13] <zaapiel> hey
[16:13] <zaapiel> i need helpw tih my sound
[16:13] <zaapiel> it isnt working and i cant reinstall since i used a usb
[16:15] <EldonMcGuinness> What is the issue zaapiel? Have you checked audio and video to see if your hardware is listed?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> zaapiel, no point in reinstalling, have you updated and upgraed since installation, and installed kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[16:17] <zaapiel> i see default in audio and video
[16:17] <zaapiel> and im installing kubuntu restricted extras now
[16:18] <BluesKaj> zaapiel, ok run aplay -l and post the result in pastebin
[16:18] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[16:20] <zaapiel> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26227978/
[16:21] <zaapiel> audio volume says no devices found
[16:21] <zaapiel> it the systray
[16:25] <BluesKaj> zaapiel,  run sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel, then open alsamixer in the terminal and amke sure you pcm and othe volume controls are unmuted, also disable automute if needed
[16:27] <zaapiel> did and it showed volume up but im not seeing anything in the systray
[16:27] <zaapiel> no sound either
[16:27] <BluesKaj> then check system settings >multimedia>audio&video>audio hardware setup and choose the options that fit your audio output connections.. The reboot
[16:28] <BluesKaj> then reboot
[16:28] <zaapiel> default?
[16:30] <BluesKaj> is za not the device preference tab, the harware tab which sets up your pulseaudio choices/options
[16:31] <BluesKaj> oops
[21:06] <guz> f
[21:06] <guz> clear
[21:17] <guz> fd
[21:17] <guz> hi
[21:24] <guz> hi hele
[21:27] <guz> -->
[22:13] <myrdroid> Hi i just upgraded from 16.04 to 17.10 and all I get I'd a blue screen on login. How do I get plasma to start
[22:16] <myrdroid> Also how can I get online from  tty?  I tried using nmcli device WiFi onnect ssid password password but I can only ping the router not websites
[22:18] <myrdroid> Plasma-desktop apparently isn't installed
[22:19] <myrdroid> Typing on my phone
[22:33] <myrdroid> When I try to connect with nmcli I get   could not build name for facility network : invalid parameter
[22:35] <valorie> myrdroid: it's possible some people here will know how to use nmcli, but you are much more likely to get help on some networking chan
[22:35] <valorie> #networking  seems the likely option
[22:36] <valorie> but alis gives lots of options
[22:36] <valorie> !alis
[22:36] <myrdroid> Any suggestions?  #kde always throws me back here when I ask there. And my primary goal really is to get plasma running again
[22:37] <myrdroid> #networking is for KDE tools?