 @turanmahmudov, should be ok, i'll cherry pick them into vivid :)
 @mariogrip thanks :)
 think this should be it? https://github.com/ubports/keyboard-component/pull/24
 @turanmahmudov can you confirm?
 yes
 @turanmahmudov, okey, lets wait for ci to finish then ill merge it
 so I can see changes on the next update, yes?
 The "PDF-Viewer" app is shaking a lot when the M10 is in windowed mode and i will open a pdf with password protection and try to enlarge the window. This error is repeatable.
 Yes, devel first, then we will push to rc pretty quick after that
 @Crash_Burn, not tricky at all: … http://kriscode.blogspot.tw/2016/11/ubuntu-phone-windowed-landscape-mode.html
 @mariogrip thanks a lot :)
 @turanmahmudov, np :)
 @UniversalSuperBox, Portuguese
 @malditobastardo, kill is a stromg word :P Just an alternative to scopes. Can be uses instead or in parallel.
 @rapha, i dont consider it ready yet.
 @Flohack, shit, yeah, that is embarassing, i tested on the wrong device which still had the package i built installed 🙈
 Hello and welcome Peu
 Peu If you haven't already, be sure to check out all the useful links at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome.
 Good morning. I added my posteo.de account to Dekko 2. Every folder is populated, except the Inbox. Any ideas what I have done wrong?
[06:42] <tgBot> RenanPrastaJenie2 was added by: RenanPrastaJenie2
 hello all, Renan from Bogor Indonesia here
 (Sticker, 512x451) https://irc.ubports.com/WF7KQuEY/file_2995
 Guys, is rc21 equal to ota 3?
 @Daniel, I think this is a known bug
 OK. After I added a gmail (buooh!) account, the single inboxes are still empty, but the combined inbox shows the mails from gmail, the ones from posteo (imap) still don't show up. Is there a workaround ? Or is dekko 1 still available somewhere?
 I upgraded radio firmware to my N5. Much better battery life now when mobile data on. 4g still hogs guite a bit, but 3g is much more battery friendly now.
 @Rawcode, Equivalent*
 @samitormanen, Uhm... Maybe I should try this with my meizu pro5...
 @samitormanen, Which radio firmware?
 @stuartlangridge, Hi Stuart and Rodney, some more feedback: with Canonical times it worked perfect. But since some month back I have new modem - do not know if that can affect it, nevertheless my WiFi printer and other devices work well. Yesterday I also tried with Bq 4.5 on stable channel OTA 2, and one WiFiTransfer version older to the current one and also no success. About encoded IP, I did not do anything special, just default modem O2 Smart bo
[08:15] <tgBot> settings. https://www.o2.cz/osobni/techzona-modemy-pro-adsl-vdsl/o2-smart-box.html?tab=techinfo (before I had this modem: Comtrend VR-3026e v2) but I do not know if it is at all related issue to modem, I have just saw Rodney mentioned “encoded IP”. My laptop: default 16.04 Xenial .
 @Daniel, https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject, @DanChapman
 @milkor73, Thanks
 Daniel have you tried deleting and recreating the account? THere's a bug in the mailbox detection code that's used for the merged mailboxes
 Yes, I did, but still my gmail account is the only one which shows up in the Inbox. The other folders are populated
 Hmmm so it found spam, trash etc for the posteo account. Just not Inbox? if so that's interesting
 Dan, do you thing you could upload to OpenStore also the previous Dekko. Pherhaps me with the latest update I cannot anymore send emails. They stay in Drafts and Outbox after queque.
 Yes, that is the situation at the moment. Found everything for both accounts (both Spam, sent etc have been merged) but no Inbox for posteo
 Dekko old works fine, but no notifications of course 😉
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/6C7POZ96/file_2998.click
 give that a try @milkor73
 @Daniel, Ok i'm curious now as to why this doesn't work. The detection is done by looking for a folder name "inbox", "Inbox", "INBOX" and if that's not found it will use this list of translations to try and figure it out https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject/messagingframework/raw/master/libraries/qmfclient/resources/translations.conf
 Daniel do you know what email server posteo use by any chance?
 I don't know, but I guess I could ask them. On the web surface of posteo, it is called "Posteingang" which I didn't see on the list (maybe I overlooked it?). Don't know if in the imap of posteo it might also be called Posteingang
 @DanChapman, No success, now it stays in Draft, and cannot clic on it.
 @Daniel, Your right, it's not there. There is just Eingang
 I'll add it to the list
 @milkor73, Going to need a bug report and the log file for this then 😊
 Thanks :-)
 OK, sending
 @milkor73, Cheers
 Daniel https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject/messagingframework/commit/a3c862c7ff50d1e2acc6ee36e411247e56d6e6ac I will get this into tomorrow's update
 @DanChapman, Thanks a lot!
 @Rawcode, rc is in weekly instalments, so broadly similar to stable, at the time of an OTA release, then creeps ahead
 :D
 @RenanPrastaJenie2, Hello Renan. Welcome! Check https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome … Not-a-bot™ Ask, chat, explore!
 :D
 @UniversalSuperBox, This is portuguese
 I'm brazilian
 @RenanPrastaJenie2, Hi, I am also from Indonesia
 @devsigma_bot, Anger is clear in any language 😐
 @SyntaxError820, Wow. Which one of you wants to be language Captain?
 @DanChapman, I asked the people from posteo and they said, that the system uses INBOX as the name for the Inbox. Anyway, we'll see what happens after the update. I'll report back.
 @Rawcode i had firmware from android 4.4.4 image before. Now I flashed firmware from 5.1.1. I downloaded factory images from google servers and extracted those so i got radio.xxxx.img file. Installed with 'fastboot flash radio' command.
 @webivorous If you didn't yet, feel free to join out indian language group! @UBports_India
 @peternerlich, 😱 Indonesia is not in India
 @Stereofont, Exactly
 @Stereofont, wait, did I mess up...?
 @samitormanen, Is it worth it?
 Nah
 I'm indian
 Sorry. My bad. Confusion over usernames. We have two Indonesian guys now 👍
 Ah, that's it
 @Stereofont, I'm Indian lol
 Not Indonesian
 (Sticker, 512x481) https://irc.ubports.com/8F4FXzYF/file_2999
 Hello guys
 How could I update to ota3
 Via RC?
 Beacause stable don't show any updates
 @TheMinimalDesign, +1
 @TheMinimalDesign, It happens tomorrow. If you choose stable now you will get revision 2. Tomorrow you can update to revision 3
 Its on 21 of December I think, but i could wait another day :)
 Go into SystemSettings:Updates then select UpdateSettings at bottom left
 Then ?
 Its on stable
 Should I've choose another option
 If it is now set to Stable, swipe back two pages and wait for the download. Middle page shows the installed version, not the selected version
 I've done that still got no new software updates
 Thanks anyway friend
 @Stereofont, Itz happens TODAY!
 Early presents 😎
 @Flohack, Should I choose stable or RC ?
 @TheMinimalDesign, If you can wait until approx 15:00 GMT stay on stable
 Yes I will ;)
 If not, change to rc.
 @Stereofont, thanks!
 @Flohack, Thanks a lot :)
 will check soon
 (Sticker, 512x474) https://irc.ubports.com/QvEjlxDY/file_3000.webp
 @SyntaxError820, salam kenal. Panjenengan soko pundi? … (Greeting! Where are You come from?)
 Patience guys
 Hold the line warriors! We only shoot when you can see the white in their eyes.
 @DiogoConstantino, Lol
 @Rawcode seems like it, yeah. Here in Finland in middle of nowhere, near Russian border. Before my battery didn't last no more than 7-8hours. Now 6hours behind and still have 50% left..
 4g isn't very aggressive with this firmware. It drops very easily to 3g when reception is bad. Phone stays a lot cooler now..
 @samitormanen, How can you tell which is the most recent compatible radio firmware?
[11:49] <tgBot> RenanPrastaJenie was added by: RenanPrastaJenie
 Hey @RenanPrastaJenie, welcome! I'm part of the Welcome Team. Please read https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) first to get up to speed and feel free to ask any question! (especially in the Newcomers Room)
 @Stereofont i had 2.0.50.1.16 before, now i have 2.0.50.2.26 installed. I may try the most latest firmware later if I have some issues with this one.. I think latest is 2.0.50.2.30.
 list-modems script shows a bit higher readings with this fw..
 @samitormanen, Hopefully there will be a simpler  way to update, eventually. An app that searches and installs?
 @peternerlich, Thanks! I just join 6 hours ago, and I also add my spare number
 (Sticker, 512x451) https://irc.ubports.com/jFNb85Fv/file_2995
 @RenanPrastaJenie, Ah, makes sense then. I just created confusion in the welcome team by greeting you
 yups, I am also Renan.
 (Sticker, 381x512) https://irc.ubports.com/7qLY5gBI/file_3002
 OK, looking forward to 1500. Do we have a number for the size of the file?
 @RenanPrastaJenie2, welcome!
 should we restart the stats for ubports before we launch ota3?
 we'll get some good stats in one week
 Is ota3 out?
 @nikhilbhalwankar, It depends on who you know.
 LOL???
 it's out on devel and that other one. not sure about the grand launch on stable channel . @Flohack
 Ok. Will wait.
 Thanks for update
 the devel & rc have it, and we are counting down to release in approx 1hr or so ^^
 @Flohack, 👍
 Thanks Florian !
 Will that be a rollout in phases or everybody will get it?
 I am from India
 @nikhilbhalwankar, Everybody! We are not a multimillion users thing, so why wait! Server, do your job !! ^^
 Thats gr8
 Cool!
 @Flohack, yet ;)
 (Photo, 541x534) https://irc.ubports.com/Vf0fGc5V/file_3004.jpg Good morning
 hheheheh
 har har
 😂
 Fwd from UBports News Channel: Only twenty minutes until OTA-3 goes live. If you're not hyped yet, now is the time to start training your vocal chords!
 Fwd from UBports News Channel: Only twenty minutes until OTA-3 goes live. If you're not hyped yet, now is the time to start training your vocal chords!
 double troube @mariogrip
 👍
 Ota 3 including 16.04 ??
 What is OTA-3?
 @Vijaypraj, nope. But many fixes including FP2 screen and new camera
 @TopheT, Over the air upgrade
 👍
 @olisax, That's good
 @olisax, YYYYAAAYYY
 Wooohoooo....OTA 3 in 20 mins...thx so much Marius !!!
 IT'S CHRISTMAS!!
 Video format not supporting it's fixed?
 it should be called UBports OTA-3 to avoid confusion with the previous OTAs..that reaced OTA-14 I think? 😆
[13:46] <tgBot> <Yumeng Ley> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/0Yr8DH9I/file_3005
 full changelog?
 @Javacookies, Because the OTA-14 was from Canonical.
 @Flohack, Really? Have FP2 on RC. It still has not arrived. What would be rXX number for this update?
 any special instruction to get OTA 3 or just the usual update methods?
 is an ubuntu one account required?
 special instruction is to wait for 6 minutes :)
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/lLGebSPW/file_3007.jpg Keep cool and thanks at all of the team.
 @Seannyboy, Just open Updates in System Settings. You can say 'abracadabra' if you want 😂
 I think ubuntu one account is only needed for app updates
 ahhh grand!!  as per the photo coffee seems to be critical too :)
 @Javacookies, Only if on UbuntuStore. It has a legacy use as authentication for Telegram notifications on UT
 Can we just release OTA3 now? This suspence is killing me!
 1 more minute!
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/nIPEWxiO/file_3008.mp4
 @Eranuzan, 😃
 @neothethird, Am I too late for the training?
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/WlQ1dgSQ/file_3009.mp4
 @ajyotirmay, training
 ?
 HYPE TRAINING
 @neothethird, Vocal Chords training 😂
 oh
 @UniversalSuperBox, lol
 @UniversalSuperBox, that disappointment
 @Javacookies, 🤣
 @Mohannes, lol
 In which country are the UBports servers located?
 good question
[14:04] <tgBot> Alexander Gritsan was added by: Alexander Gritsan
 @Alexander Gritsan, Welcome Alexander! Ask questions, join in. Glad to have you in our community. https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for lots of newcomer information 🚪
 @GiovanniStaiano, We use mostly Netherland and France
 but we also have some in Norway and UK
[14:07] <tgBot> <Alexander Gritsan> Hello, where can I find change log for OTA-3?
 still not here 😭
 @mariogrip, Thanks!
 @Alexander Gritsan, We have a Scandinavia group, that might be relevant to you?
 The update has started :D but it will take some while before eveyone get's it :) within 24 hours eveyone should have gotten the update, we have phased the updates to 25%
 @mariogrip, Hehe. 'Fine print'
 So, here we are. refeshing and pressing the update button like madmen for the next 24 hours 🙂
 so it's still a phased update … there's a fake news here a while ago....😤 … jk 😂
 👍🏻
 cheers for OTA-3 and for future OTAs!!!
 @Javacookies, Fake news, so sad!
 Let’s go OTA3!!
 Where is my Nexus 5??
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/FKACdVd0/file_3010.mp4
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/WJeQnG2T/file_3011.mp4
 OTA updates gets a notification right? do I remember it correctly????
 @Javacookies, No, our system server is not sending a braodcast now. People need to manually check for updates. We are working on this
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/l6H8mNMt/file_3012
 my system (M10) isnt finding anything
 software up to date seemingly
 Nexus 5 nothing on devel
 Thank you for the Christmas gift, @Flohack et all. This message is from the telegram native app 😎
 @YO6OSC, If you are on devel it is not relevant
 Fwd from UBports News Channel: OTA-3 is OUT :D YAY :D
 OTA-3!!!!!!!! 🎊🎉🎉🎊
 @mariogrip, You can pin also in the channel now!
 whats the changelog?
 Gonna upgrade when I get back home :-) what's new?
 @garrogarri, aw! :D that's awesome :D
 Congratulations ubports team. Great work!
 Chanelog will be on the blog shortyly :)
 Thanks.  … I hope it works with BQ4.5
 @bastos777, Youre welcome ^^
 @Markus, it does
[14:17] <tgBot> <Tomasz Joniak> 👍👍🍻🍻
 👍
 Still nothing in Jordan. , just waiting
 We are really on the way to the best mobile os in the world 😍🚀🚀🚀🚀
[14:19] <tgBot> <Big ET> Hi, as a very late adopter, I have a UT meizu pro 5 with the original UT, because I use it as a convergence device and have a lot of pachages installed via apt I was relunctant to just format all my phone with the OTA1 or OTA2, I wonder if the new OTA3 is using some kind of backup repositori since 15.10 is no longer available from canonical?
 @mariogrip, Congratulations!!! :-)
[14:19] <rapha> onajjar: من وين بالأردن أنت؟
 @rapha, Amman bro ,you ?
 And I am here waiting my phone should connect to WiFi.....
 Great and thanks to all the team including developers from OpenStore and all the people here!!!
[14:21] <rapha> onajjar: i'm from Leipzig, Germany, بس درست العربية بالجامعة ... loved Amman when i visited in 2014, how's the 7th circle these days? :)
 @Big ET, Canonical is legacy. By switching to UBports versions you will break things but otherwise you are stuck in history and things will break anyway. Time to jump, I suggest
 @rapha, Nice to meet you :) very very busy right now ! Heheheheh
[14:24] <tgBot> <Big ET> @Stereofont, I intend to do it in this cristmas vacation, but the question remains, does OTA3 has an alternative repository that have the 15.10 packages? apt packages. Thanks.
 OTA3 is still in 15.04
[14:25] <rapha> onajjar: تشرفنا don't worry me too just nice to meet someone from amman :)
 @Big ET, I see. The answer is not. apt-get is not truly supported. You can do some experimental stuff but that is not really what it is about
[14:26] <tgBot> <Big ET> @Stereofont, So where do the developers get their packages to create the rootfs image then?
[14:28] <tgBot> <Big ET> I do not want support for apt, I am a developer, I just want to know if the packages for the ubuntu 15.10 are somewhere so the apt from OTA3 will fetch them. The makers of the root image have to have access to a repository like that, no?
 Is Telegram showing 0 members for everyone too?
 @Dohxis, For me yes
 I wish telegram could come with dark theme like the Android app
 Fwd from UBports News Channel: OTA-3 changelog is out: https://ubports.com/blog/latest-news-1/post/ubuntu-touch-ota-3-106
 So, is this now the last 15.04 update and does that mean that there is no use being on rc or devel for a while now?
 @Dohxis, Yes, click on the group you should see
 the changelog can now be seen in the update screen like apps right?
 @Dohxis, Thats normal, yes, will fix it maybe later, but its quite tricky
 @Big ET, We will nt jump to 15.10, we will aim only to have lts releases. So we go to 16.04 now ^^
 "Add support for X forwarding over ssh"
 Very nice
 so do we just have to $ ssh -c -y and it would work, right?
 @Big ET, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
 I'm curious. I've been using the Ubuntu store periodically for a few things. With the removal of the scope will I be able to use what's left in the store?
 * Remove ubuntu store from app scope
 @Seumas, Exactly why I'm asking
 I suppose there's a disconnect date for the Ubuntu store?
 Yes I also want to know, will we stipple be able to access Ubuntu Store? E.g. with uApp Explorer?
 *still not stipple
 same question.....
 Hi. Thank you for the update & keep up the good work!
 @milkor73, Praise all of the UBports communety :D YOU guys are awesome :D
 and Dalton, and Jan, and Florian and Brian, Dalton, Stefano, new maintenance for core apps , thank you all
[14:49] <tgBot> <Big ET> @Flohack, "We will nt jump to 15.10" did not understand. is the nightly build on 16.04 for pro5?
 Wooow... Thanks to all developers !!!
 @Big ET, @mariogrip can you tell the situation with 16.04 and how Big ET could contribute :)
 How long will the BQ 4.5 supportet?
 Security supported permanently, feature upgraded only for OTA 3 I believe.
 @Markus, Quite some time still. We will tell you when it gets more precise. There are a few challenges we are not sure about
 @Seumas, Unfortunately not possible, since 15.04 is end of life and we cannot backport endlessly
 did you guys managed to get an open source kernel for it by the way? Or is it still running on canonical built?
 @Big ET, Yes, the nightly builds for the pro5 is 16.04, the reason why we jump straigt to 16.04 is because thats an lts that supported until 2021, and 15.10 is alredy end of life (just as 15.04 is)
 lts measn, long term release
 @rogieroudshoorn, All the kernels are open source https://github.com/ubports?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=kernel&type=&language=
 Thank you for the answers
 ah nice, cool
 @mariogrip, here are the nightlys for pro5 https://system-image.ubports.com/ubports-touch/16.04/devel/turbo/
[15:02] <tgBot> <Big ET> @mariogrip, Jolly good, I'll use nightly. BTW my mistake I am actually on 15.04 (was asuming 15.10, don't know why, it does not matter) (the good old ota 15 :) )
 Telegram notification now running
 Thank you develeopers
[15:03] <tgBot> <Big ET> @mariogrip, do you have any to do list for testing on 16.04? or something?
 @rapha, Its my pleasure my friend
 The upgrade screen shows today's date for all of them. I was the same in previous OTA.
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/o1cjh0xV/file_3014.jpg
 that's an old known bug but not sure if it was fixed
 Thanks.
 Ota3 downloaded
 @Big ET, The nightly builds are not stable, so if this is your daily phone and you need reliability, i wouldn't suggest running devel.
 29 mb size
 Via OTA update
[15:13] <rapha> TheMinimalDesign: sorry? :-}
 @rapha, I'm the same person
 :P
[15:13] <rapha> oh lolz :-P
 Ota3? Hey awesome!
 Now that the ota3 is out the builds for 15.04 will stop?
 And thank you for the N4 bug fixes 😁
 @Xenial, There are a number of factors
 still not available to download :(
 Anticipation is the greatest joy 🤠
 I agree
 Since this ota updates the push server, does this need to be manually flashed?
 @mariogrip, If I stay on devel, does that mean that my device will switch over to 16.04 from tomorrow and onwards? Or do I have to switch manually to 16.04 first?
 @retro486, no. it's still an ota like any other ota
 it will just talk to a different push server than before, after the update
 👍
 nice question for saturday is to tell us which devices will get a switch to xenial
 or - better worded - which devices you'll work on for xenial now
 @TomasOqvist, we're still on 15.04
 with January, development of 16.04 will start again
 Will Aquaris E5 HD be rebased to 16.04?
 @kristijantkalec, Yes I know, but I want to know if I can have a test device like my Pro 5 on devel and it will automagically be switched over from 15.04 to 16.04?
 afaik no
 hmm...I think we'll have to reflash for 16.04
 but I would kindly invite someone from the developer group :)
 @kristijantkalec, No, you wont need to reflash, we will find a way for that to go smooth
 magical Marius :D
 @nikhilbhalwankar, Yes :)
 Tjats gr888
 Thanks.
 @mariogrip, 😱
 @mariogrip, Cool 👌
 Last I heard was E5 HD is not a core device and its not gng to ne rebased to 16.04. it will stay on 15.04.
 But this is really a big deal for E5 HD owners
 I am one of the.
 @mariogrip, What if I stay on devel on e.g. OPO?
 @mariogrip, Good luck. There will be things that break, even if the rootfs and default apps upgrade smoothly. :)
 N4 updated, no problems! N5 still waiting for its own..
[15:48] <MCMic> Will OTA-3 come to Bq E4.5?
 Yes
 Thanks to all for this update! Marius, Dalton, Florian and all the others too.. 🤘
 anyone has the OTA yet?
 not yet
 Patiently waiting :)
 Thanks to the UBports team for the amazing work done...much appreciated
 agreed. super team of dedicated workers. great to see the ubuntu touch revived
 (Sticker, 382x512) https://irc.ubports.com/L70BkxeE/file_3015
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/0qYRxmHC/file_3016
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/yuo34L01/file_3017
 @mariogrip, Whaaaat? This sounds to be sweet news to my ears....I thought we owners of BQ E5 were stucked to 15.04 for ever...well, probably it is because the meeting @Flohack had with BQ was definitely productive beyond the expectations 😜 Wayne, there is a job for you here! @wayneoutthere
 @nikhilbhalwankar, Yeah, that was due to xenial has systemd, but now we have desided to use upstart for xenial also :)
 @mariogrip, Good job Marius to you and all the amazing developers! This is a gift into a gift 😁
 awesome! so what's with systemd and upstart? is there signficant difference? especially in performance and features?
 @mariogrip, 😶
[16:26] <tgBot> <Miguel Gutiérrez> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/snAMQ2w7/file_3018
[16:26] <tgBot> <Miguel Gutiérrez> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/rHdNXP6F/file_3018
 UBports team, my best wishes for you all. You are awesome. Thank you all for everything one more time. 😻
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/XgtcpJKT/file_3019
 To all UBPorts team thank you for all the hard work!!
 OTA-3 is live.   Thanks to everyone in the community for the fun year and great work.  Imagine what 2018 will look like?  :)
 next in OTA-4, scrollbar in the browser....it's hard to scroll back to top or down 😅
 Wayne you have it yet?
 @lastdon82, yeah....
 ota3 still hasnt reached ireland :(
 did i screw something up?  Stable was the last one and I think .. oh.. haha
 unpinning
 OTA-3 - DO U HAVE IT?
 @wayneoutthere, not yet
 Nothing for turbo plus yet. Can't check the other devices because no WiFi at work.
 @wayneoutthere, N4 = yes, N5= no
 @lastdon82, Weird.  Ok, I'm on Devel but I was under understanding it's launched about 2 hours ago. I guess it is 'working its way out
 oh....
 i am on Stable
 that'll teach you
 Marius thought he did a staged release, then the thought he didn't, now he thinks he did again
 @UniversalSuperBox, On-off-relationship
 @UniversalSuperBox do we have any statistics how many devices has upgraded already?
 mmmmm
 @Flohack might
 ubuntu touch version 60 … openstore 2.11 … is aviable
 now ubuntu 15.04 (r60)
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/g246I70Y/file_3021.jpg
 :D  I got OTA-18 .... maybe one day
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/9J7qpBlH/file_3023.jpg
 @mariogrip, that's and odd reason, for sure :)
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/cQPuxQLo/file_3025.jpg Nice :)
 @gab11010, rc channel
 OTA3 will only load in Stable channel, not in rc. You must switch if you want to be on Stable now
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/3CpDvw4a/file_3027.jpg
 in rc-channel Version 14.
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/d0pEsrBN/file_3029.jpg
 @Markus, Also rc
 Yes
 In stable v.3 … in rc v14 … in dev v60  … correct?
 it depends on the device, I think
 rc and dev I think depends on the device
 stable is v3 in all supported devices
 @Michele, Rev 3 in every device for stable. Other channels have different numbers
 Nexus 5 on devel is 270 :)
 🤣
 ........Rev 3 in every device for stable. Other channels have different numbers. … aha. ok.
 For many who jumped to rc or devel because of major bugs (like the FP2 display) there is no longer any reason and going back to stable makes sense now
 I jumped to devel to get the latest bleeding edge features 😀
 Refreshing updates every second...OTA3 still no show 😂😂😂
 @lastdon82, Refreshing to dead 😂
 😜
 @Waldbursche, 😂😂😂😂
 Only unav offline is not so working as i like.😒
 Here is no OTA to see. I must change my eyeglasses 🤓
 @Markus, Unav offline is hard to use. It's a survival game 😅
 Ota 3 in stable bei mir auch nicht. Ahm.... its not here. I mean 😬
 @Markus, 😁
 @Markus, In SailfishOS there is https://openrepos.net/content/otsaloma/poor-maps … togehter with … https://openrepos.net/content/rinigus/osm-scout-server … this works fine and it would be awesome to have in Ubuntu Touch
 I tried it with this: … http://unav.me/offline/
 I think there are also other offline maps for ubuntu touch...not sure though if they're in openstore
 and i find the maps-pictures in: … ~/.local/share/navigator.costales/maps/10/523/331.png
 Yes, i know, but i have try it and its not very usefull.
 @Javacookies, Yes, but its very old and unsupported. It works not very well.
 i see.....
 unav online is o.k.
 @Markus, But the maps are not very stylish.
 JTileDownloader Version 0.6.1  … i took to download the titels
 For offline-navigation i use my sailfish-phone. It's better temporarily
 @Markus, I will try it again.
 Still no sign.of update arriving.
 It's a staged rollout. You'll get it within a couple of days.
 OTA-3 - The Ninja Stealth Update … Just when you think ti's here, it hides in the shadows of darkness.
 @wayneoutthere, 😂
 @wayneoutthere, 😂😂😂
 Better than 'Marzipan'
 Hi. I"m Apple Corp.  I name my stuff "Marzipan"
 Now... "Krillin" <— a real man's name
 @Joerg: I must go to work. Perhaps i contact you tomorrow in LM with PN
 Cheers Dalton
 @Markus, Okay. See you
 👌🏻🤘🏻
 @UniversalSuperBox, 👍
 I like how the big other store icon went away as planned. Good job on all things. Notification seemed to star working.
 @mariogrip, Fantastic. Thanks !
 Still nothing for cooler, turbo or arale, but I'm a patient man.
 Ubports group must be also supported with money
 Wow, super groups work in Telegram ! Never thought Id see that on the E4.5. Thanks Florian!
 & Co.
 https://www.facebook.com/topic/Apple-Inc/109336685751749?source=whfrt&position=1&trqid=6502079882358526114&impressionguid=0qZ4EI1DbvgHo0BTi
 https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/21/572538593/apple-says-it-slows-older-iphones-to-save-their-battery-life\
 @profetik777, For good reason it seems. I was afftected by that sudden shutdown problem.
 @jarlathreidy, Tricking customers to buy a new phone instead of battery replacement.
 @wayneoutthere, You never watched DBZ?
 @wayneoutthere, if you don't have a nose
 Thanks to ubports team and community! My bq e4.5 is the supersmartphone! Ou yeah!
 @David_Gamiz_Jimenez, +1. E4.5 here and equally grateful :)
 @shenoy13, People look for things to be outraged about IMO. A sensible decision to make the experience better.
 Notifications returns finally!
[19:46] <tgBot> yuki_no was added by: yuki_no
 @yuki_no, Welcome Nomad! Ask questions, join in. Glad to have you in our community. https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for lots of newcomer information 🚪
 thanks
 I was just reading the site and saw that it had a tg group :)
 @yuki_no, Great. Have you got Ubuntu Touch or a supported device?
 :D
 sadly no :(
 I'm looking into getting a used OPO if I can to test it out
 You will find a list there. Hopefully there will be new devices added in the coming months
 :D
 OPO or Nexus 5 are very common choices
 :D
 @Stereofont, cool, looking forward to it.
 The Welcome Room is on the link I gave. We can help with installation when you are ready. Meanwhile, follow along and feel free to participate
 (Sticker, 465x512) https://irc.ubports.com/gHoSwO6C/file_3030
 We also have groups in various different languages
[20:02] <tgBot> <Ringo Kätzel> Die anyone receive ota 3 for bq m10?
 Yay for the supergroups...
 @Stereofont, 👍
 Are there any plans for @gif search?
 @yuki_no, Welcome to our group https://t.me/UBports_Chinese
 I'm in California and seeing this "Checking for updates..."
 it looks like OTA-3 isn't available here quite yet
 I have bq m10. How to check ota3 or not?
 @Tina119, I don't know chinese though 😅
 Click the gear-looking icon on the home screen, labelled "System Settings"
 from System Settings, select "Updates"
 @Stereofont, really? do you know also which ones?
 Bqm10 ubtouch version 12 updated 21 december
 @yuki_no, We can help you or use English
 Then what is the point of the Chinese group?
 @UniversalSuperBox, Learning...
 @UniversalSuperBox, And by each other
 Wath is the OPO Ubuntu touch version?
 What
 Stable is r3 for everyone
 RC?
 19. https://system-image.ubports.com/ubports-touch/15.04/rc/bacon/
 Only to know if I have the last version
 Ah ok. So I have the latest version...
 From tomorrow morning
 Thanks
 Do you think this will get on the Essential PH-1?
 We've talked to Essential about the Librem 5... what's the PH-1?
 It's a phone made by Andy Rubin
 @UniversalSuperBox, I think you're confusing pur.ism and essential
 (Photo, 600x800) https://irc.ubports.com/eiXyhg0n/file_3032.jpg
 silly dalton
 😂
 😱
 I do wanna buy a PH-1 sometime if I can get one for under $400
 it's so futuristic looking
 It's a pretty neat phone :D
 @Lyokanthrope, This should not decide your buy strategy
 @Flohack, It also has good specs beyond the camera, has an unlocked bootloader, and Essential seems to care about supporting it well so far
 My buying strategy is usually defined on vendor support and possibility of bootloader unlock and etc
 it checks all the boxes alongside looking awesome
 @Lyokanthrope, 👍
 And it would be a very good candidate to see it running Halium sometime...
 Did it ship with Oreo?
 What's that?
 Nah
 But
 You can get Oreo on it
 shipped with nougat but they have an oreo beta going on right now with treble support
 Well, right now everyone is swimming in phones to port to. If you're willing to take on the port, everyone would appreciate it. :)
 How do you do that? :v
 http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-steps.html
 Thx :D
 It's not easy or for the faint of heart
 Lineage porting knowledge recommended
 i've been slacking on the nexus 6
 just haven't had time/energy
 I got the G5 far enough that I can start working on some of the supporting software for 16.04
 So I'm happy
 I have some problems with Release Candidate on krillin.... I didn't received any updates (I was on r10) so yesterday I switched to devel and I updated to r58 and then come back to rc. now when I go to settings -> updates it starts downloading r60 even if I checked RC. under updates settings I see I'm on devel (without setting it) so I change it to RC but in the label there's written devel... I go back and re-enter updates settings and now the label 
[20:58] <tgBot> (Release Candidate). but it doesn't find any update (there's only the devel one that it started downloading but now it says update failed) … the strange thing is that if I reboot the phone and I go under setting -> updates -> updates settings it says I'm on devel and it tries to download the latest devel build (r60)... … do anyone else noticed this? should I report a bug on GH or do you need a video to understand better?
 @Michele, Same thing with Faenza
 @Stereofont, oh, is there a bug report yet? could be usefull if I'll do it?
 I am waiting to see if a switch out of devel to stable will be possible tomorrow
 this is a heavy group (in msg number) for me 😳 I can't follow it, i'll leave it, but following you :)
 @costales, ❤️
 Maybe turn off notifications?
 @costales, Are you in a language group?
 @UniversalSuperBox, with that, I will not read it and one time I had 20K msg without read 😂
 @costales, That's no problem
 @costales, well will be more if you leave :)
 😂😈
 Liken this more to an IRC room than a forum
 i'll return for doubts or more involved :)
 I love this project
 @costales, We love you too ❤️
 I just need more spare time 😂
 @mariogrip, 😘 thanks a lot! proud of that :D
 :)
 good night!! :)
 Good night too you too :)
 see you soon😉
 |o/
 sure!
 I'm planing to return to improve unav
 1st gufw needs so much love
 after that, unav :)
 bye bye! :)
 @costales, YAAAAY :D this makes me super happy :D
 @mariogrip, not so heavy dev as before
 but yes, I have in mind a few things
 anyway, proud of unav, so so so stable
 and working thanks to this project |o/
 you keep it alive :D
 @costales, Yeah it's awesome :)
 @costales, :D
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/pKiVrcpD/file_3035
 So? 21 on RC (Nexus 5) ==  OTA3?
 oh, darn, the ph-1 is huge :(
 I wonder how much the notch would screw with anything that isn't android
 Just a guess... lots
 Well I guess it depends on what's in the statusbar
 @costales, It's so nice. Thank you.
 the ph-1 is smaller than the oneplus 3
 ugh it has a dingus too?
 definitely no
 lol yeah, that's my biggest 'nah' too
 and no 3.5m jack which doesn't personally affect me but it's something I still dislike on principle
 5.7 is too big, but if that was the only thing avaialble i'd go back to a nokia 3310 before i get a phone with a notch
 haha, well i needed a headphone jack yesterday, because the rubber eargel fell off my headset somewhere, and i couldn't find my replacements. and i had a call.
 but of course, i plugged in the headphones, and made the call, and android wasn't having it
 it put it on speaker instead of the headphones :-/
 when i get my next replacement phone, i feel like i probably would take this pixel to the range and put a few rounds through it
 blackphone is kind of interesting, but also too big
 And a third party media source has already covered the OTA-3 release.  Be sure to subscribe to the official News Channel here to get that article:  https://t.me/ubports_news
 ouch my syslog is 2.5GB ( did not any ota update)
 BQ E4.5
 lots of `Dec 21 22:25:53 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [19491.848792]binder: BC_ATTEMPT_ACQUIRE not supported … Dec 21 22:25:53 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [19491.848806]binder: 2388:2536 ioctl c0186201 b20fcb08 returned -22`
 @wayneoutthere, I swear, he had that article ready before we even launched. It was under 30 minutes from release.
 No ota3 !! Waiting is BORING
 Same here. qq
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/YY92CX2j/file_3036
 @onajjar, We need to fix broadcast notifications so you get informed when its ready
 @Flohack, Amen for that , thanks!
 @onajjar, If you dont want to wait, you can do `sudo system-image-cli -p 0`
 @mariogrip, And this would do ?
 It will set the phased value to 0
 Every phone picks a random number between 1 and 100. Those that picked 0 to 25 are currently getting the update.
 So if you set the value to 0 you'll get the update
 I'll try that now
 Thanks a lot
 How's load on system-image, @mariogrip ?
 @UniversalSuperBox, 50%
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/SyGN8PLp/file_3037.mp4
 @Michele, A couple of days I couldn't get from devel to rc. I tried it again just now and it installed rc without any problem. Maybe something about a particular devel release
 @lduboeuf, sorry for spamming, if someone have any idea of what can be the pb ?
 restarted the device is ok now
 Have you set it to rw at any point?
 i did
 @Stereofont, so installing the next devel release could help?
 @Michele, Seems so
 ok, I'll try
 @onajjar, In the current moment, there is no "waiting", there is "being". 😇
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/heMzZqoh/file_3038.mp4
 @mariogrip, Still nothing
 I guess waiting is what it is
 Patience
 Here also no OTA. Live goes on.
 Yup
 @malditobastardo, 👍🏻
 Take this "waiting"-time and write a app for UT. 😅
 @Flohack boss, one question. If someone edit a message using desktop/ios/droid in TG, the message in telegram for UT doesn't update for us right?
 @malditobastardo, When you restart TG, the edited message is there
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/KSGxfUci/file_3040.jpg
 @Jaume81, humm
 try now to see if you have an update anyway
 close the settings, the open it again
 @Waldbursche, Good good. Just what I was thinking ! Thank you
 @mariogrip, 👍🏻🍾 it's downloading 29,7mb
 @Jaume81, ;(
 @Stereofont, nope 😢, I updated from r58 to r60 but nothing has changed... when I restart I see I'm on devel... even with stable: it says me there's an update (r3) but I don't install it ans when I restart the phone I still see the channel is devel
 @Michele, Same with my FP2 😂
 Here is!! 👍🏻
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/3HqPmuRi/file_3042.jpg
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/CVIqNMGs/file_3044.jpg
 :D
 Thank you so much
 No problem :)
 Finally !
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/gvPA7wKK/file_3046.jpg
 @Michele, Yeah the switch is still a bit funky, we will improver that for the next release :)
 @mariogrip, thank you Marius 😍
 @malditobastardo, yeah this is an issue with the current telegram api level
 we are on API-41 and this function came later to Telegram. Official clients are beyond 70 😆
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/K4rd1i1H/file_3048.jpg
 hey ubport-team - thanks!! bq m10 fhd, fp2 updated! Really great job!
 @onajjar, I don't get this photo while installing on Meizu Pro 5, what is that phone?
 @Jaume81, I think added by OTA3, so you haven't seen it yet? It is on all devices with later revisions
 @Stereofont, No, and now I get the OTA-3
 Maybe it don't install right
 @Flohack, Great Flo. We will get there soon! Thanks for your words :)
 @Jaume81, Its a commercial phone from Canonical so its locked more than the others. We cant replace the recovery there
 So unfortunately, no Yumi screen for all BQ and Meizu 😩(
 But isn't TWRP available for the old BQ devices?
 Why can they replace the recovery?
 @JBBgameich, We need special recovery that can write our updates. TWRP can be installed, but then you cant install OTAs
 @Flohack, 👍🏻.
 We need a recovery that understands our OTA diff files
 Ah, you would need to port your own recovery to the device first?
 In future, that will change?
 Yep
 @Jaume81, Unlikely
 @Jaume81, We need Android sources for the recovery, which neither Mediatek nor BQ can give us ;)
 @Flohack, The PRO 5 or Turbo use Exynos
 @Jaume81, but we don't have the android source for that, non of the "old offical" canonical devices we have the android tree/source/recovery for
 Only, Fairphone 2, Oneplus one, Nexus 5 and Nexus 4 we have the sources too
 recovery source :)
 Canonical doesn't give you?
 No
 They likely have an NDA between themselves, BQ (or Meizu), and Mediatek
 What's NDA?
 Non-disclosure agreement
 Basically, they legally can't give it.
 Then, is Meizu fuckin us?
 Not really
 How are the rumors about the OnePlus 3?
 It's common among all Android chipset manufacturers, Mediatek and Samsung especially more than Qualcomm though.
 @Jaume81, That's how the android world is, that's what we are trying to change with an opensource os :) not are not 100% there yet, (we still need some drivers) but we are getting close
 `make ubports-boot` makes me laugh every time I type it
 I was bought the Meizu because I think the development will be more easy. Because it has a UT version.
 But I'm wrong
 @Jaume81, Ubuntu part of it is all open source, it's just the drivers and recovery, but kernel ubuntu and all on top is open source
 @mariogrip, But with the recovery can they  get something?
 @Jaume81, no, the recovery does not have network or anything
 By the way, thank you for the cursor keyboard, it's so exactly.
 @Jaume81, you need to thank Mike Sheldon for that :)
 @mariogrip, Another reason for they are stupids. They can't get anything and fuckin. It's so easy, then it help to dev another OS and cheap to include functions.
 @mariogrip, Then thank Mike Sheldon, is the same person that do the Podbird?
 @Jaume81, Jep :)
 @Jaume81, Yeah, i guess it's a simply way to hide bad code :P
 @mariogrip, And in future the OnePlus 3 will be a good choice?
 Hey you all, thank you for your great work with OTA-3! … In related news, I can't use my mobile data connection in Nexus 5. Should I reopen this bug https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/10 or open a new one?
 Did you have the newest version of Android installed before you switched to Ubuntu Touch?
 I think so
 If you reboot into fastboot (power + Volume Down), what does it say for "Baseband version:"
 M8974A-2.0.50.2.30
 @advocatux, Yep, that looks pretty new. Open a new bug with that information, maybe we can find a pattern.
 Got OTA3 yay
 @UniversalSuperBox, Is there any other info that could be useful to include like logs (which ones)?
 The standard ones can't hurt. https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/contribute/bugreporting.html
 Dalton, thank you for your help! I'll file a bugreport tomorrow (now is too late here).
 No problem. Thanks!