[00:09] <rapha> hi
[00:09] <rapha> i just tried out apt and was disappointed to find that / is mounted ro
[00:09] <rapha> is there a way to (at least temporarily) lift that
[00:09] <rapha> apt install vim tmux etc would be rly nice
 @rapha, you can do `sudo mount -o rw,remount /` to make it read/write
[00:10] <rapha> oh that easy
 :)
[00:11] <rapha> okay my buddy says that's a real bad idea because it breaks updates, but he's still running ubuntu touch. is that still a problem with ubports?
[00:12] <rapha> and no tmux in the repos! i protest!!
 @rapha, It wont break the updates, but tmux might be override by an update. also there is always a risk using apt.
 I use apt just fine for my devices, but as said there is a small risk
[00:13] <rapha> that's a shame, i mean, that's sort of the point of wanting to have a non-android linux phone
[00:13] <rapha> i'll just try for a while
 you can also just ignore those updates, and just use apt :) but that's not userfriendly
 that's why we use the image updates since thats more fit for users that dont know apt, and since apt is not the best for phones
[00:14] <rapha> so the updates themselves are being performed through apt as the backend?
[00:14] <rapha> ah, not so
 No
[00:15] <rapha> what would be cool is if it was possible to completely disable the non-apt update facilities
[00:15] <rapha> also, like i said, no tmux in repos. what repo should i add for that?
 But there is nothing wrong with using apt, just not userfriendly for an phone. since we need to update kernel and android drivers, and you cannot do that with apt
 @rapha, did you do apt update first?
[00:15] <rapha> lol omg no
 :)
[00:16] <rapha> wrt kernel and drivers, the nexus4 is marked legacy, so i'm guessing there won't be many such updates anyways?
 @rapha, Legacy does not mean we wont update it, it mostly mean it will get newer feauters later or not at all (example snaps etc)
[00:17] <rapha> i see
[00:17] <rapha> bummer about the snaps
 but mostly because of limited hardware, and kernels
[00:18] <rapha> but for the time being i'm happy to be able to play with this
 snaps was just an example, im sure that will get snaps at some point
[00:18] <rapha> mariogrip: UI question ... after a new install there's always these sort of on-screen tutorials: swipe from right edge, etc. etc. the one saying to "long swipe from left edge for 'today' view" or something - i can't get anything like that to work. what gives?
 There used to be one of those on screen tutorials.
 @rapha, you will need to do a factory reset, since those will only run once. or you can use the phablet-config tool to enable it again
[00:21] <rapha> nono
[00:21] <rapha> i mean, the tutorial instructs me to do a "long" left-swipe
[00:21] <rapha> but nothing ever happens when i try to do a "long" left-swipe
[00:22] <rapha> (except when i'm in an app i get back to the apps scope. but there's nothing like the promised "today" view)
 Today Scope was removed some time ago.
[00:24] <rapha> oic
 @rapha, oh yeah the today scope was removed
[00:24] <rapha> should prolly remove it from the on-screen tutorial as well then ... confusing to new users
 @rapha, does it say that? can you send a pictue?
[00:24] <rapha> is there any way i can get back something like a today scope (which ostensibly had info like appointments in it?)
 It was nice. I miss it. It had problems though. Bugs.
[00:25] <rapha> mariogrip: i guess i could do a factory reset and take a picture
 @rapha, ah no need, i can do it
[00:25] <rapha> okay
[00:25] <rapha> jarlathreidy: a calendar scope then?
 @jarlathreidy, you can still get it
 @mariogrip, Oh? I just searched Open Store but didn't find.
[00:27] <rapha> oh, bummer, no compass in my phone? :(
 @jarlathreidy, https://github.com/mharrend/ubuntu-touch-day-scope/releases/tag/1.5.2
 `pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted Downloads/com.canonical.scopes.day_1.5.2_armhf.click`
 to install it
[00:28] <rapha> as root?
 Nice! Thanks for the instructions.
 @rapha, no need for root
[00:29] <rapha> k
[00:30] <rapha> hmmm no tab key in the keyboard?
 Tap the terminal output
[00:30] <rapha> thx!
 Any time
[00:30] <rapha> you guys must be the most responsive FLOSS community ever :D
 @rapha, Awww thanks :)
 https://soundcloud.com/ubports/i-never-sleep
 haha, I love that song
 Oh btw, I'm Dalton and I can confirm that
[00:34] <rapha> UniversalSuperBox: is there an "up" and "down" key, too?
 Drag up or down on the output
 And you can scroll the output with two fingers
[00:34] <rapha> weird i tried that ... now it works
 My favourite app
 It's not obvious, but it's an amazing terminal for touch and mobile use once you know it
 Huge props to the devs at Canonical
[00:35] <rapha> on android termux is /really/ good already. but this is better.
 Fwd from UBports News Channel: Hype! Today has been an awesome day with OTA-3, but don't be worry, the hype hasn't stopped yet! on Saturday (December 23, 2017) at 1900 UTC we will have our live Q/A, but this time we have en super exerting xmas gift that will make #UbuntuTouch A LOT better! (HYPE!) you dont want to miss this live stream! :)
 marius
 did you just pin a message in the news channel
 Yeah :P I learned i could do that today
 didn't know I could do that
[00:36] <rapha> hah! you can just touch the .click file in the browser's download list, too :)
[00:37] <rapha> speaking of browser, there wouldn't be a way to get that to sync with Firefox Sync, would there?
 my nexus 5 still shows "Checking for updates... [Stop]"
 At the moment, that's not an option. Not sure what it'd take to implement it, either... probably a lot of work
 is there anything I can do to help it to get the update?
[00:37] <rapha> well at least it /is/ documented UniversalSuperBox
 @Christopher, Could you try closing the Setting and reopen it?
 I'll try
 Should I see an ota on my bq 4.5?
 I've tried restarting the phone once or twice today
[00:38] <rapha> sooo mariogrip the day-scope is installed but does not appear in the list of scopes?
 @popeydc, Staged rollout. @mariogrip, how far has it moved?
 Ok
 No rush
 I will do it tomorrow
 @popeydc, As long as you are on ubports it will come pretty soon
 @mariogrip, Ooooh, very exciting! I cant wait :)
 Yeah. I am
 Still "Checking for updates... [Stop]"
[00:39] <rapha> WOW!!! srsly?! you guys got tuxracer?! how awesome is THAT!
 @popeydc, The stage number is pretty high now, maybe you're just unlicky
 @Christopher, Can you reboop that guy?
 ok
[00:39]  * rapha is suddenly finding smartphones cool again
 Nah. It's all good
 I'm unlicky. Please don't lick me.
 Aww, he edited it
 @jarlathreidy, you didn't see that :P
 :D
[00:40] <rapha> and spotify
[00:40] <rapha> this is getting better and better
[00:41]  * rapha hooks up the phone to the oscilloscope to watch some muscic
 rebooted and now... "Checking for updates... [Stop]"
 Hmm. Does it stop if you click stop?
 yes
 Well, that's a plus at least
 "Software is up to date"
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/LGYztSGh/file_3051.jpg
 I should see it there?
 Version 509... were you on Devel before perchance?
 @popeydc, humm, it says version 509, are you sure this is ubports?
 Uh
 I thought I did
 Mine looks like @popeydc 's but instead of Version 502, it shows Version 2
 Maybe I only did my m10
 also there is no "update options" at the bottom, since we added that
[00:44] <rapha> UniversalSuperBox: mystery solved, if you want to swipe up and down in the terminal you need to be in landscape mode
 @popeydc, well, you have ubports installer preinstalled on your laptop haha :) #ubuconParis
 Hah
 @rapha, Interesting... Not the case on my Fairphone
[00:45] <rapha> hmm
[00:45] <rapha> am i doing it wrong then?
[00:46] <rapha> ah! i wasn't swiping straight enough
 @Christopher, Have you recently changed channels?
 @rapha, yeah that's a little issue on smaller screens
[00:46] <rapha> can get used no prob
[00:47] <rapha> waitasecond
[00:47] <rapha> if i have apt, then i have pip
[00:48] <rapha> if i have pip, then i can have platformio
[00:48] <rapha> if i can have platformio, then i can flash MCUs from the phone
 If I have platformio, then I rule the world-er
 @Christopher, Could you also send me `sudo cat /var/log/system-image/client.log`? I just need the latest messages, no need for the full log
 @UniversalSuperBox I've never changed channels on this device
[00:48] <rapha> lol
 @rapha, it's ubuntu. you can apt anything :P
[00:49] <rapha> \o/
 You do need to make the image read-write, which is not generally recommended, and all that
 You're at your own risk
 @UniversalSuperBox, we have gone over that :)
 I figured
[00:49] <rapha> finally a real handheld computer again! i haven't had this much fun with a handheld computer since my HP-200LX broke!
 :D
 I had things setup to easily go into the phone and get logs, but since then I've re-installed my Desktop … @mariogrip it'll take me some time to get stuff setup, but I'll do it
 @Christopher, a tip, `sudo apt install android-tools-adb` that then `adb shell` (with developer mode on)
 @mariogrip thanks I was going to ask you about that specifically
 installing now
 :)
 ```$ adb devices … List of devices attached … * daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 * … *** Error in `adb': free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x0000560f7dc541b0 *** … ADB server didn't ACK … * failed to start daemon * … error: cannot connect to daemon```
 maybe I need to restart or reinsert my phone
 brb
 device is listed now... what's the command to get into the phone?
 adb shell
 ah thanks that's it
 what is phablet's password?
 Your PIN
 your passowrd
 or ping
 Dalton is faster then me
 This is why I never get anything done
 :P
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/k0bll15l/file_3052.log
 Timeout. How's your internet connection?
 hm I had Wi-Fi switched off
 oh :)
 That'll do it
 its downloading :)
 yay
 @rapha, Yeah. We can all quit now. Victory complete
 He doesn't see which message you're replying to. :P
 very  cool Installing Update w/ blinking robot screen...
 @wayneoutthere, ha :P Tuxracer is awersome true that
[01:02] <tgBot> * UniversalSuperBox realizes that users of stable haven't seen that screen yet
 @UniversalSuperBox, Thats OK. He should upgrade to the new and awesome telegram :)
 @UniversalSuperBox, :D
 everything looks good. I don't think I get many new goodies since I'm on hammerhead...
 but I'm glad to know I'm using the latest freshest stable release
[01:05] <rapha> wayneoutthere: well i'm still taking in the gravity of how cool this is.
[01:06] <rapha> oh, "dmesg -w" doesn't work
 No, it doesn't wait. That annoys me, too
[01:08] <rapha> and my USB stick is not recognized :(
[01:08] <rapha> so no using the USB port with random devices?
 Hmm, it's possible that the older kernel doesn't have the drivers... Not sure about that one
 @UniversalSuperBox, works on xenial :D
[01:10] <rapha> noooooo :(
 @rapha, huh? usb sticks should work, i use it with mine
 ok, dug my laptop out
 using ubports installer, it wont accept my password
[01:10] <rapha> mariogrip: like UniversalSuperBox says, because of the older kernel on the Nexus4?
 debug: checking password … debug: incorrect password
 oh
 I am a complete idiot
 @popeydc, dumb question: did you type the correct password
 it's my password, not the phone one :)
 :)
 No, not a dumb question it turns out :)
 hm
 yeah we did make it alot more clear in newer versions
[01:12] <rapha> mariogrip: might there be any way to compile the USB driver as a module without having to recompile the entire kernel?
 had to install fastboot on my laptop to make it proceed
 downloading/installing
 @rapha, yes you can use modules, but it's not as easy, it would be better to rebuild the kernel with backpoted drivers
 well done chaps!
 :)
 We now have a snap version also btw :)
 @mariogrip, (of the installer that is)
[01:14] <rapha> mariogrip: any howto on that? also, will 11 gigs of space be enough of that?
 yay
[01:14] <rapha> s/of/for/
 I happen to be using the appimage
 Rebuilding the kernel on the device definitely won't do very well
 @UniversalSuperBox, well adding backports might work, but it's not \easy\
 @rapha, 11 gigs sould be plenty
 what device is this btw?
[01:15] <rapha> mariogrip: a nexus4
 @rapha, ah, you will need the android source for that one :( since it's build inside the android tree
[01:17] <rapha> oh. ouch.
 not all our devices has out off tree kernel building support
[01:17] <rapha> sounds like waiting for 16.04 to become available
 @rapha, will come pretty quick, we alredy have 16.04 on some devices, we will start expanding that after xmas :)
 also I need to jump to bed now, it's pretty late here in norway :P
[01:19] <rapha> yippeeee! :-D
[01:19] <rapha> Germany as well, same time zone
 Yeah
[01:19] <rapha> god natt mariogrip and takk!
 @shenoy13, Tbf, when you make it so you need specialist equipment to replace the battery, you're already in a little bit of a pickle
 @mariogrip, :)
 Awesome job guys!! Loving it!
[01:36] <tgBot> ii13s was added by: ii13s
 But on Nexus 5 last updated still struck on 70.
 Can anyone confirm that?
 @PhoenixLandPirate, Yes but it is unethical to show down phones. They can give it as optional to users to whether allow down the phone. Because even if user replaces battery, phone will be slow
[01:44] <tgBot> Anthony Tonio was added by: Anthony Tonio
[01:47] <tgBot> <Anthony Tonio> Hi! I have a Nexus 5. Even if I'm on OTA 3, I'm still stuck on 1970 in the update menu ;)
 Yeah, the Recovery doesn't know what time it is but it gets to decide when the last update time "was"
 It's only cosmetic, though
[01:50] <tgBot> <Anthony Tonio> Yes, I don't care... I just would rreport
[01:50] <tgBot> <Anthony Tonio> bugs
 If that bug is still open on the tracker, you could add a reaction to show that it affects you
 Thanks for the report!
[01:52] <tgBot> <Anthony Tonio> if someone could explain how to connect to a VPN, it'd be nice ;)
[01:52] <tgBot> <Anthony Tonio> or create a click app ^^
 Hmm. There's a great course for app development on the forums. Let me pull that up for you
 https://forums.ubports.com/topic/184/ubuntu-touch-programming-course/46
 We also have the app development documentation at https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/appdev/index.html
 That details using Clickable, which is likely how we are going to continue to recommend to build apps for the time being
[01:57] <tgBot> <Anthony Tonio> Thanks! I'll watch it tomorrow ;) I love this OS
[01:58] <tgBot> <Anthony Tonio> Good night ev'body
 :)
 man fairphone 2 performs mutch better on 16.04 then 15.04 x)
 @Anthony Tonio, Thats what we wanna hear :)
 I don't know if the podbird dev (Mike) is still active, but if Podbird is stalling for you too, please mark this bug as affecting you: https://bugs.launchpad.net/podbird/+bug/1739692
[02:39] <tgBot> <I Franci> Guys I got some problems. After 2-3 days my UT become very unstable, I got no 4g/3g signal, sometimes the phone won't reboot or keep displaying the google logo on startup (nexus 5). I'm thinking of flashing again..
[02:39] <tgBot> <I Franci> Do you have any suggestion?
 @UniversalSuperBox, That bug is closed in OTA 3
 with the current succes we are having, this supergroup is increasingly getting on my nerves. so much good info is going to waste daily as there is no archiving or inteligent search in tg.
 there has to be a strickter way to redirect ppl to either ubports faq forum or github
 i find it a pity that currently ubports faq are not community- driven
 like for instance askubuntu
 @matv1, UBports docs are on github
 you can send a PR if you want to
 @wayneoutthere, thanks :)
[04:52] <tgBot> Rohit was added by: Rohit
 Hi guys! I have big problem. I just upgraded my N5 to ota3 and my mobile data just exploded.. Settings cellular info shows 2g/3g option only. It doesnt connect anywhere..
 @samitormanen, I've got the same Problem with my Nexus 5
 Can i download just n5 image and install it without wiping any data? I mean with ubuntu-device-flash? Luckily i had good old n4 with me so i can ask help. ☺
 @ritzth ohh, so maybe there is some bug then..
 I tried 4 different radio firmwares, xxx.1.13, xxx.1.16, xxx.2.26, xxx.2.30. It's all same thing. No mobiledata..
 Is this working at all?
 Now n4 lost gsm and mobiledata. It asked few times sim pin and now i only get 'no sim'. Well moms wifi still works..
 Yikes I hope OTA3 doesn't ruin my nexus 5 also
 Same problem for me too
 Always Nexus 5
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/aroxoEuy/file_3054
 @samitormanen, I believe there is a no-wipe option
 check the script for yourself
 In the Qt web engine we're likely to switch to, is there script/css injection stuff possible? I'd like to have stuff like http://peter.nerlich4u.de/nightreader there as well at some point
 :D
 If i remember correct, ubuntu-device-flash without -bootstrap option will leave data intact..
 I try it later. Is anyone tried install ota3 to n5 clean install? Is mobiledata working then..
 I think someone had that issue few days ago, I think he switched to devel and back to stable
 actually I can't clearly remember, it could be the other way around
[08:31] <tgBot> spfox0 was added by: spfox0
 @spfox0, Hello sp fox and welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
 I've just filed a bugreport about Nexus5 and mobile data loss in OTA3. If you are affected too, you can say it there. … https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/376
 @Javacookies i think you are correct. When switching channels, whole image will be installed. Ota2->ota3 just 80mb or so was updated. I try it in few hours..
 anyone knows how to ssh via USB on windows? Sailfish OS has this in developers tools by default. I think this is will be useful on UT :)
[09:33] <tgBot> AbouHatimG_ELBG was added by: AbouHatimG_ELBG
 @Javacookies, it is possible with Halium. Windows is not supported and will never be, so you have to help yourself if you have any platform specific issues
 Welcome Anthony and Soufyane! Ask questions, join in. Glad to have you in our community. https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for lots of newcomer information 🚪
 @AbouHatimG_ELBG, Welcome Abû! Ask questions, join in. Glad to have you in our community. https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for lots of newcomer information 🚪
 @Javacookies, https://askubuntu.com/a/599041 should also work from windows.
 @matv1, We do try to grab major themes so that they can go in FAQ. It may not be obvious at the moment because we are awaiting a major revamp of the website
 @vanyasem, so it's not yet possible with Ubuntu Touch? halium isn't used yet right? only in 16.04?
 @Javacookies, I have no idea, I am a Halium developer, not UBports
 @samitormanen, -wipe is the option to wipeout data (http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/ubuntu-device-flash.1.html)
 @vanyasem, I will just tell you to wait
 till 16.04 is released
[09:51] <tgBot> <Anthony Tonio> Hi again! My nexus 5 lost mobile data after ota 3 too.
 @Anthony Tonio, stable, rc or devel?
 @Anthony Tonio, https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/376
[09:54] <tgBot> <Anthony Tonio> Stable
 I am in devel and also happened.
 In my case, switching to stable do the trick. Once with mobile data back, I switched again to devel. (thanks @milkor73 )
 @DanChapman, I can't seem to get an IP address for the usb interface though...
 Does anybody know if there is a german UBport group, too?
 http://t.me/UBports_Deutsch
[10:16] <tgBot> <Anthony Tonio> I've upgraded to Dev channel version 271 and mobile data are back !!! Thanks to the Devs
[10:17] <tgBot> <Anthony Tonio> I came back to stablechannel and mobile data are here again
 AlanGriffiths follow up on N5 problem https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/377
 Devel 271 and mobiledata rocks once again! 😎
 Switching from rc to stable worked fine this morning on my BQ M10 FHD. Channel switching a bit random but it will work, with patience
 Yep, switching to devel gets the mobile data back.
 @Stereofont, I also experienced this problem once, switching channels. I remember I wanted to go back to rc but the phone seemed stuck in stable and not really switching nor updating....If I'm not wrong, I resolved this issue by deleting the cache of the Settings app and trying again the channel switch after a reboot.
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/JNl0W0gZ/file_3056.jpg
 In OTA-3 we still need the Ubuntu One account for Telegram notifications?
 @GiovanniStaiano, Yes, at least until some other method is found
 @Matteo, FP2 also switched nicely from devel to stable this morning. Data works just fine on OTA3
 @Matteo, I wondered about that approach. Maybe after I finish work...
 if anyone has problem N5 hotspot. i tested few radio fw and seems like 2.50.1.16 and 2.0.50.2.30 are best for hotspot. with 2.0.50.2.26 it was really hard to get hotspot running. Battery wise 2.0.50.2.26 and 2.0.50.2.30 are best at least here in coutryside (middle of nowhere) of finland..
 Deleting cache might solve it but I found that trying again randomly was effective, without touching the cache
 Ok I switched to devel and then returned to stable, and mobile data is working at least for now
 @Matteo, how did you delete Setting app chace?
 @stefanomelchior, You have to use the app "UT Tweak Tools"
 download it from the OpenStore, you search for the Settings app and there you go
 I cleared cache from UT Tweak but it seems it didn't fix the upgrade issue
 With all this talk about flashing new radio firmware for N5 to fix it's hotspot functionality, I guess I should try the same for my Pro 5. Has anyone done this for their MP5?
 And perhaps should Ubports take it upon itself to package these firmware for it's users? Because correct me if I'm wrong but this is the accepted protocol for Android phones, right?
 @stefanomelchior, I think I also cancelled the "data" using the same tool....but I'm not with my Ubuntu Touch phone now and I cannot confirm exactly...
 *package and distribute
 @Matteo, I don't use it as my daily driver yet
 @Michele, Just included the pluging for  this. It's pretty simple to use as well
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/QJL3jXl2/file_3058.png
 @Stereofont, I do not have an ubuntu account, but telegram notifications work 🤔
[12:07] <tgBot> achernar34 was added by: achernar34
 (Sticker, 512x309) https://irc.ubports.com/cK0CBt9l/file_3059
 (that was posted by mistake - was just checking out the channel stickers and couldn't read the text on this one)
 Hi @achernar34! I'm part of the UBports Welcoming Team. To get you up to speed, please first read https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome and feel free to ask any questions, especially in the Newcomers Room!
 @peternerlich, Ok
 Is Ubuntu touch need kernel modification?
[12:18] <tgBot> rodlimao was added by: rodlimao
 Hi
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/cYe8PVe4/file_3060
 hello
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/u1VVNkqx/file_3061
 Iḿ from Brazil.. so.. sorry about my english
 Hi Rod! :)
 What does that have to do with having poor English skills
 @samzn, Nice...
 I'll gone install Ubuntu Touch on my Galaxy Tab 3 Lite (SM-T110) … How can I report my steps to UBports?
 in website this devide is not listed...
 @rodlimao, Did you already succeed ? or you want to try?  As Samsung is not supported.
 guys, i can just say that you are awesome. … It should be so hard the work you did. You did it successfull. Now, ubuntu touch-ubports it's more alive than never. … thankyou for all this hard work.
 @milkor73, well i not gonna try... i'm gonna do it, and i want contribute to UBports
 @j2g2rp, 👌🏼
 @rodlimao, @UniversalSuperBox, forwarding you to our admin Dalton from Ubports team
 @rodlimao, ❤ Brazil.
 @matv1, This tbh
 @Crash_Burn, Thanks..
 @milkor73, Milian, I need to click on @UniversalSuperBox link?
 @matv1, askubuntu considers ubuntu touch off-topic at the moment, because it's no longer maintained by canonical and we're not currently building on an lts release
 but if there were enough demand in the community, maybe the'd accept it again
 @rapha, Yesterday I showed to my mom and we were laughing so hard we broke into tears... we suck at it... trees, out of rail... My mom was saying «poor penguin, what are we dooing to it» X___D
 @cibersheep, maybe the backsory is that a gnu pushed him down the hill
 XD
 @rodlimao, Check out our Portuguese language room also. https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 Nice Will.. thanks..
[12:49] <rapha> cibersheep: the funny thing is i suck at it too but at the same time i absolutely love the game :-P
 @stefanomelchior, what upgrade issue?
 @KrisJacewicz, nog being able to switch channels?
 @rodlimao, No, he should come to You, if not try later by your own
 @milkor73, ok,  thanks
 Fwd from DanChapman: https://open.uappexplorer.com/app/dekko2.dekkoproject christmas present released 😊 make sure to reboot your phone after updating
 @KrisJacewicz, Yes, I was on nexus5/devel and my radio worked fine. I tried to switch channel to stable to reproduce taht issue, I succeeded to downgrade the device, but radio still worked. so I decided to move back to devel, and my nexus5 could not switch back to devel. So - as suggested Matteo - I used UT tweak to clear system settings cache and application data and n5 rebooted and finally it could be able to upgrade to devel (r271)
 @advocatux, There is this known bug @alan_griffiths recently filed
 @Martin, Probably because authentication is so weak 😂
 @DanChapman Thanks :)
 Fwd from DanChapman: https://open.uappexplorer.com/app/dekko2.dekkoproject christmas present released 😊 make sure to reboot your phone after updating
[13:21] <tgBot> GabrieleDA was added by: GabrieleDA
 @stefanomelchior, but if u were to chose full wife than it wouldnt matter if u cleared cache or not?
 @DanChapman, Awesome man. Can I also get by regular openstore app update?
 @KrisJacewicz, I always choose half wife. Full wife is too much to bear...
 @wayneoutthere, You might need to uninstall that click i sent you as they have the same version number. You data should be preserved
 OK cool thanks. I will uninstall then do openstore update
 👍
 Amazing.  works great and even that funky forwarding thing is fixed. Looks great. Thank you so much for this
 Thanks @DanChapman!
 @wayneoutthere, 😊 that funky forwarding is still there it just depends on the type of message you are trying to forward. For instance if it has attachments it will convert the original message to a .eml and attach it (which is the funky view)
 v0.1.6 will be all about the composer and mail submission.
 @wayneoutthere, Unfortunately this bug still affects my BQ E5....I just finished to update to the brand new version...the OS keeps freezing and crashing whenever I type the reply button....weird...I'm not able to answer to any email...but hey Dan, thank you for your hard work, very appreciated!
 did you restart your phone?
 Mmmmmh nope...I try now!
 Anyone knows why my system does not goes to rw when I do 'sudo mount -o rw,remount /'?
 It happens from OTA 2 and persists on OTA 3
 it' s E5
 @Matteo, Now that I have my UT phone I recall..I used instead the app TweekGeek and I wiped only the data in System Settings. This worked and after I was able to switch channels again
 before it worked...
 and TweekGeek aldo does not do the trick
 @DanChapman, Now I restarted it but always same problem Dan
 Reply button and reply to all don't work, only if I press Forward than I have the new email window opened
 Ok, if possible could you `touch /tmp/dekko-debug` restart dekko and reproduce the issue. Then send me the log please
 Yes, I try to be helpful, just a sec
 @wayneoutthere, 😂
 @wayneoutthere, hahah
 @DanChapman, I think now, OpenStore goes by releases. The number of the version might be the same and see the update (or if you installed from an external click) :)
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[13:54] <rapha> yesterday yalls were talking about an OTA for the Nexus 5 ... what channel was that in and what's that update called? 271?
 https://youtu.be/BxKfpt70rLI
 @Jay_Zh, Hello Jay Zh and welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
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 Hello everyone
 Is xiaomi phone support ubuntu touch?
[14:16] <rapha> achernar34: you can see supported devices at  https://devices.ubports.com/#/ ...  unfortunately yours doesn't seem to be on that list
 @samitormanen how did you update the N5 radio FW?
 Can we make a guide for that?
 Can i port this? Is Ubuntu touch need kernel modification?
 Fwd from Seumas: With all this talk about flashing new radio firmware for N5 to fix it's hotspot functionality, I guess I should try the same for my Pro 5. Has anyone done this for their MP5?
 Will ask again. Big ET might know.
 @achernar34, The Qualcomm processor is somewhat positive but it would take months of work on your part to get a Xiaomi phone working with UT
 @marcos sudo mount / -o remount,rw
 Our porting information begins at https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
 @Flohack, I downloaded N5 factory image from here developers.google.com. Then I extracted package. Took radio.xxxxxxxx.img to desktop. Phone to fastboot, then fastboot flash radio radio.xxxxxxx.img and nothing else.
 @samitormanen, oh cool that easy. Wil ltake a look what I have
 @Flohack @mariogrip etc, do you feel these radio firmware should be pushed by Ubports to users in instances where e.g. the hotspot function of the device isn't working? Or should it be left to the users?
 Yes, kernel changes are required. You can find our porting information at docs.ubports.com, under the Porting Information section
 Nexus 5 has many different radio fw and seems like also many different features between releases. I think different areas in world, may others perform better.. Its worth a try if problems.
 @Seumas, I think we cannot do this safely for all users, since it involves flashing in fastboot. But we can write a good guide probably
 I do wonder (and hope!) if this procedure will actually help the MP5 grow hotspot functionality. Would really dig it if other users of the phone could speak up.
 I fixed N4 gps problem by flashing older radio fw..
 And obviously I hope by doing this it doesn't cause anything else e.g. the Bluetooth to regress! (I'm a n00b on these matters though and expect to be swiftly schooled)
 @stefanomelchior. Also tried with no lucky...
 @samitormanen, Can we make a step by step guide? developer.google.com is a bit too generic, for what things to search there, or can we publish a deep link to the download etc
 You can't lose things like hotspot by cutting down your SIM card from Micro to Nano size, can you?
 Wait a minute florian..
 ☺
 Yes, kernel changes are required. Our porting information begins at https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
 Is updating the radio something that would apply to most (or even more) of the devices?
 @samitormanen, Got 2.0.50.1.16
 jezz how many subsubsubrevisions they use
 @Seumas, All you are removing is plastic. It makes zero difference
 @florian https://developers.google.com/android/images#hammerhead
 @Seumas, I went to our Turkish mobile shop and they have special clippers for that 😆
 @samitormanen, This one: https://developers.google.com/android/images#hammerhead
 yes
 And which android version?
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc.ubports.com/v0QgJHDP/file_3063.jpg extracted..
 and why you took m4b30z?
 a have now latest radio installed
 just bc its the latest?
 yes
 ok roger that. Guide upcoming
 i tested only major versions...
 like 5.1.1 etc
 seems like when there are some diffence in numbering, there is some "fixes" included
 @DanChapman, Hey Dan, thanks for the update! It seems I still have to turn on access to less secure apps in Google in order for Dekko2 to fetch mail, which is not the case in Dekko 1. Anyway to get around this without making my mail account less secure?
[15:02] <tgBot> Riojhe was added by: Riojhe
 @marcos you  can try with ut tweak app
 @Riojhe, Hello Rio. Welcome! Check https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome … Not-a-bot™ Ask, chat, explore!
 @TomasOqvist, No not at the moment. Dekko 2 doesn't support oauth yet.
 @Stereofont, Ok
 that's all the innovation for you
 @Seumas, you're cutting pure plastic
 @samitormanen, https://forums.ubports.com/topic/815/howto-n5-update-baseband-firmware what do you think
 @Flohack 👍
 @samitormanen, Hmm I dont have a SIM now for this phone... Lets see if I can get a benefit also without radio ^^
 today morning i flashed A LOT of radios because after ota3 update mobiledata didn't work. luckily moving to devel image solved problem..
 hmm we did not in any way change low level HAL or other stuff in this OTA
 Only high level fixes. I am totally stunned by this effect
 i think it has something to do with only partial update.. my update size from ota2 to ota3 was something like 80mb. maybe it only occurs when update like that. if others had devel or rc installed, upgrading to stable will install whole image and wont cause problems..
 just a guess.. i dont know much about these things 😄
 @DanChapman, Ok, sounds like you plan to include it in the future, which would be great! Until then I will have to stick to Dekko 1. Thanks for your effort, I really love Dekko!
 @Flohack cell signal strength: cd /usr/share/ofono/scripts , watch -n 1 './list-modems | grep Strength' , move aroud inhouse/outdoor and reading will change. i noticed a lot of variation between different radio fw.
 if we could get that cell info in settings, it would be useful IMO
 so no, you cant
[15:33] <tgBot> First Name Last Name was added by: First Name Last Name
 Don't worry my hotspot was missing before OTA-3 @Flohack so it (and the team) are not to blame  in this case :)
 ^^
 Hi, after upgrade to RC version 19 I had 2 reboot... I noticed after browser use. Any idea?
 2 reboot in one day
 @TomasOqvist, Ok cool. Note it won't be soon though. You can always create an app specific password in you google account to use with dekko 2. Provides the same security and you don't have to give dekko your password to find out google won't give you access. (which is the big floor in the whole "less secure apps" business)
 https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en
 @DanChapman, Not sure how to do that. The account I am using is my corporate account, which uses Google's servers. They seem very picky with logins, because I am getting the "Someone is trying to log into your account" whenever I log in from a new place or a new unit.
 Ah ok it's a gapps 4 business account, i think your gapps adminstrator can setup the app passwords.
 @First Name Last Name, Hello First name Last name and welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
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 Hi! I am a French translator and would like to install Ubuntu Touch to test my translations in a real context. Could anyone help me? … A couple of weeks ago, I tried to install Ubuntu Touch OTA 2 on my new Fairphone 2 with the ubports-installer 0.1.7 beta. I was stucked at the bootloader step (Fairphone powered by Android black screen OK but nothing happens after). … After that, I used the magic-device-tool to wipe my device and install the stab
[16:28] <tgBot> But due to the recent screen module, I got a blue screen (and no OS anymore on my phone). … Now the OTA 3 is available, I tried the installation with  ubports-installer 0.1.9 beta and same issue at the bootloader step. With the magic-device-tool, I am also stucked at this step: … Detecting device … no permissions fastboot … Device detected ! … Flashing legacy channel … < waiting for device > … On Ubuntu 16.04, multiple USB cables used, multiple 
 viv
 In addition to the above, I would like to provide Irish language translations.
 @stefanomelchior, SteX. Also tried but no success...
 still no rw permission
 @Flohack hello Flo, I have a question. Any chance to get separate settings for the general speaker volume and the headphone volume?
 @malditobastardo, yes, issues already in the tracker. This is a more complpex thing though. But its a little bit pain in the ass how it is now
 right now its very messy because when I am listening to some music with my headphones I have to lower the volume but then when I stop listening music, I have to put the volume up. Then after that when I am back to music, the sound is still so loud and I keep forgetting to lower that my ears get hurts
 It happens to me all day..
 Thank you Flo. I understand
 Glad to know that is already in the tracker
[16:43] <tgBot> Lee 李 was added by: Lee 李
[16:43] <tgBot> <Lee 李> hi
 Also it would be good to have the option to just use the ear speakers when listening to some Telegram audio voice message instead of the main speakers
 hi Lee!, Welcome. The welcome team will approach you soon, just sit and wait :)
 @samitormanen, Sami, hope everything is good. It would be nice to have a list with your recommendations in the Flo thread so everyone can help trying stuff and debugging
 Thank you for testing and messing with these things :)
 @anne017, Hello Anne Onyme and welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
 @Lee 李, Hello Lee and welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
[16:56] <tgBot> <Lee 李> ok
 And another news item about the News Desk has been dropped in the official news feed.  To learn more about that, just click this to subscribe: https://t.me/ubports_news
 @anne017, Pls join the welcome room
 @anne017, https://t.me/joinchat/Baj4lhJ4XRotoeGk1QxuRQ Hi Anne, I'd be happy to assist you in our Welcome room.
 Can somebody give to @anne017 the link to ubports french, please.
 @anne017 https://t.me/UBports_French Here you go :)
 Thanks for her
 It's all in the welcome document, though
 @exar_kun Thanks!
 How do we check our device's radio firmware prior to upgrading it?
 It's in the Fastboot screen, "BASEBAND FW" or similar
 Nice, I'll check it out when I get home tonight.
 Of course, don't download the Nexus 5 baseband for your Pro 5
 Or... what it was
 That's almost a surefire way to brick your phone
 Haha yep no frickin chance!
 @Stereofont, I added the Ubuntu One account but the notifications do not arrive
 @GiovanniStaiano, Did you restart after? You are now on OTA3? You updated Telegram?
 @Stereofont, OTA-3 latest version of Telegram and after restarting
 Did you authorise in System Settings: Notifications?
 Yes
 I suggest delete the Telegram app then reinstall
 Sometimes the notifications option in the Telegram settings is deactivated
 @Stereofont, Now I try
 @GiovanniStaiano, If you have Telegram on another device you could try to adjust the settings there
 @UniversalSuperBox Vaisakh also has the Moto G5. ROM developer who is interested in the port. Many hands etc?
 Fwd from mvaisakh: Moto G5
 @Stereofont, OK. Then I have one last problem: WiFi sometimes does not start. Sometimes I turn on the smartphone and everything works fine. Other times the smartphone starts with the WiFi off and it can not be switched on, because the option to activate it is blocked
 @GiovanniStaiano, Can you remind me which device?
 @GiovanniStaiano, This happens to me...I usually end up rebooting the device.
 Fwd from UniversalSuperBox: I got the G5 far enough that I can start working on some of the supporting software for 16.04
 I was correct 😎
 @Stereofont, \o/
 @Stereofont, Nexus 5 @Crash_Burn
 @GiovanniStaiano, Going to try this to see if it improves. … https://forums.ubports.com/topic/815/howto-n5-update-baseband-firmware
 @Stereofont, Omg
 Awesome!
 @Crash_Burn, Done! I hope it can solve the problem of WiFi
 I've the G5 plus. Different enough to not be compatible
 @GiovanniStaiano, Me too, testing now
 @UniversalSuperBox, Damn
 @UniversalSuperBox, In the Android rom side, both the trees are almost similar. I don't know about halium.
 @GiovanniStaiano, I have similar strangeness, like hotspot not spooling up nicely, and when turning off, not releasing cleanly and breaking wifi.
 Radio update seems to have completely broken 4g. I cant switch to it, and if I reboot into 4g it doesn't route data.
 (Sticker, 512x300) https://irc.ubports.com/N1sCl5g6/file_3064.webp
 @Crash_Burn which one N5 you have, d821 or d820? just wondering if there are different modem requirements.. mine is d821.
 @Crash_Burn, I have no 4G offer on this phone but the 4G option seems to work
 @mvaisakh, Hey, I'd love some help
 mine works beautifully with latest radio. hotspot works everytime, what it wasn't with older radios.
 @samitormanen, D820 I asked about this awhile ago but never found out.
 Hahaha...no love for the US.  lol
 Figures ;P
 @Crash_Burn, It is the only road
 @Crash_Burn, When you look at the stats, it's easy to see why
 I can get hotspot working...but it takes 10 minutes if switching it on/off from both locations.
 @Crash_Burn i would test another version. maybe some works better. by the way, i always switch hotspot from settting menu, not from indicator menu..
 I don't know if you can downgrade radio
 yes you can, download older factory image, extract and flash
 I don't think I upgraded/downgraded, flashed same version. Let me check.
 I'll try to switch hotspot from settings, but logically it should not make a difference.
 i have done it many many times while trying to get my n5 working better
 @Crash_Burn you can check it from terminal also. open terminal and "cd /usr/share/ofono/scripts" and run "./list-modems". Look then line "Revision".
 Is there a script/log to help probe the status of hotspot?
 @samitormanen, Ya...you taught me about this a few days ago. Was playing around with it. Thanks.
 ahh, ok 🤘
 OK, so a boot into fastboot got 4g working. Well 4g icon is up and data is working.
 Online = 1 …     Powered = 1 …     Revision = S333_M86_20151002_CHNOPEN_MZ024 …     Manufacturer = Fake Manufacturer …     Model = Fake Modem Model …     Features = gprs ussd net sms rat sim  …     Type = hardware …     [ org.ofono.ConnectionManager ] …         RoamingAllowed = 0 …         Bearer = lte …         Powered = 1 …         Attached = 1 …         Suspended = 0 …     [ org.ofono.CallForwarding ]
 Android hardware. -.-
 That's part of my list-modems.
 Any irregularities?
 @Crash_Burn, good 👍
 Revision: M8974A-2.0.50.2.30
 still have issues lanuching hotspot...
 if i remember correct, i did have a problem once, i had better success with auto generated pw than my own pw
 Dec 22 15:50:03 ubuntu-phablet NetworkManager[1406]: <error> [1513975803.2686] modprobe: '/sbin/modprobe ip_tables' exited with error 256 (modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:557 kmod_search_moddep() could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.4.0-cyanogenmod-g2669fa0/modules.dep.bin') … Dec 22 15:50:03 ubuntu-phablet NetworkManager[1406]: <error> [1513975803.2858] modprobe: '/sbin/modprobe iptable_nat' exited with error 256 (modprobe: ERROR:
[20:57] <tgBot> ../libkmod/libkmod.c:557 kmod_search_moddep() could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.4.0-cyanogenmod-g2669fa0/modules.dep.bin') … Dec 22 15:50:03 ubuntu-phablet NetworkManager[1406]: <error> [1513975803.2933] modprobe: '/sbin/modprobe nf_nat_ftp' exited with error 256 (modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:557 kmod_search_moddep() could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.4.0-cyanogenmod-g2669fa0/modules.dep.bin')
 Dec 22 15:51:39 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [  559.142394] CFG80211-ERROR) wl_cfg80211_del_station : Disconnect STA : b4:9d:0b:4f:ff:b9 scb_val.val 3
 that error sounds familiar, but i dont remember in what occasion i did get it
 is there a command to reset wifi without a reboot? … `sudo systemctl restart Networkmanager`
 network-manager
 in desktop restart is " sudo serviice network-managet restart" but i havent tested it on phone
 a lot of typos.. sudo service network-manager restart
 Dongle Host Driver, version 1.88.45 (r) … I blame it on the Dongle Driver :)  lol
 😁
 my netbook (ubuntu 16.04) have sometimes problems when connecting to hotspot. network-manager restart from netbook helps.
 My guess is its that fact that d820 and d821 are close enough that it hasn't been reported.  The d820 clearly has an issue with wifi/hotspot.  Can anyone else with D820 confirm?
 Dec 22 16:12:49 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [ 1828.976865] CFG80211-ERROR) wl_cfg80211_del_station : Disconnect STA : b4:9d:0b:4f:ff:b9 scb_val.val 3 … Even with hotspot running... M10 isn't able to connect
 CFG80211-ERROR) __wl_cfg80211_scan : Invalid Scan Command at SoftAP mode
[21:18] <tgBot> Andreu was added by: Andreu
 i have had same errors. that i can remember but when is a good question
 @Crash_Burn do you have your own pw in hotspot?
 or auto generated?
 Hi Andreu and welcome
 @samitormanen, I have hotspot set up with password... what do you mean?
 if i remember correct, it generates pw for you if you leave pw empty
 @samitormanen, This works are restart nm... but doesn't bring wifi back to life
 when creating hotspot
 @mariogrip, I love exerting gifts
 @Andreu, Hello Andreu and welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
 @samitormanen, I set a pw.. so if hotsport manages to launch on N5, then the next step is getting devices to attach... if there is a problem, the M10 will ask for a password, if not it will attach.
 I use it all the time with the kids... like I said.. its a matter of turning it on/off a bunch of times.  Right now I can't seem to get it going though. :P
 try this: create new hotspot on your N5, leave pw empty. after saving hotspot check what passwd it has generated to you. use that when connecting..
 @samitormanen, ok, cool.  Thanks.. keep playing ;)
 i am very sure that i had big problem with my own password. only way to get connected was to use generated passwd
 after that i still use that autogenerated passwd 😆
[21:29] <rapha> trying to OTA my Nexus 5 to 271, download was okay, but touching "Reboot and install" just makes the dialog vanish. No reboot. Help? :}
 rapha, have you waited long time. i had to wait couple of minutes before it rebooted by itself
[21:34] <rapha> samitormanen: around 10 hours by now.
 rapha, damn.. strange.
[21:36] <rapha> Hmm might just re-flash. Is 271 the update everyone was talking about the last two days, though?
 i have devel 271
 and its working good
[21:36] <rapha> so that's that big one everybody was on about?
 i had mobile data problems with ota3 stable so i changed to latest devel
 If you reboot into recovery, the update will start
 So reboot and hold volume down, then select Recovery
[21:38] <rapha> that phone has a broken sim card slot so i wouldnt even notice somethinglike that :)
[21:38] <rapha> UniversalSuperBox: thank you!
 @UniversalSuperBox that was new info. good to know 👍
 The files all get put in the right place, but for some reason the reboot doesn't go through
 Android hardware. :/
 is this in wiki? it is good troubleshooting info @UniversalSuperBox
 I'd rather see it on the forum. We aren't planning on keeping the wiki around much longer.
 every tip like that should be writed somewhere. some FAQ maybe if update fails or something..
 ok
 @Crash_Burn, I tried both D820 and D821 in us, as i remember the us was getting the 4g.
 yeah there is some differences between supported bands.
 Are these 3 the only current targets for translation?
 (Photo, 625x339) https://irc.ubports.com/zuc0uNek/file_3066.jpg
 Just checking I'm doing it right.
 @rapha, No, OTA 3 is on stable channel
[21:55] <rapha> dohbee: any idea when it might be rolled out to everyone?
 @jarlathreidy, No, there is much more, You should speak with Florian / @Flohack as he can review why You do not see all
 @Ern_st, What about switching hotspot on/off?
 @rapha, Development channel is updated daily. Release candidate weekly. Stable every few weeks. OTA3 is about Stable. All of the bug fixes and features are already in Development and rc
 @rapha, Already is
[22:40] <rapha> weird am i not seeing it because i already downloaded 271 from dev?
 The 3 refers to the version number in the stable channel
 You've had all of the OTA-3 fixes since before it launched
[22:41] <rapha> oh!
 Right. Different channels
[22:46] <rapha> mmm i think it's a misunderstanding
[22:46] <rapha> i installed stable
[22:46] <rapha> then looked for updates - none
[22:46] <rapha> so switched to devel and downloaded 271, but didn't yet reboot into recovery, so still on stable
 Well, if you installed stable after the OTA, you already got it
 What version do you have?
 Once it's downloaded, I don't know how to cancel the update. So... I guess you're going to devel. :P
 No worries, you can go back.
[22:53] <rapha> lol
[22:53] <rapha> "last updated: 23/10/1970"
 same on my device
 The recovery can't tell time
 it's shown in about
 Good job on not letting your phone battery die for 10 months, though
 @UniversalSuperBox, that is true, it's always plugged in
 dev device
 is that something to worry about?
 @rapha, What version does it say?
 26.08.70
 (Photo, 1280x716) https://irc.ubports.com/uPvfjvnx/file_3068.jpg
 And still on 15.04? Damn...
 16.04 is not usable yet
 I have it installed on my second dev device though
 :P
 I was joking because that's like 53 years into the future
 lol
 how do I get rid of that @UniversalSuperBox
 You... don't?
 It's cosmetic.
 The recovery can't keep time
 so last update time won't ever get updated?
 what's the purpose of it then?
 Sure, when you update
 It's just that it'll be wrong
[22:58] <tgBot> jackman93 was added by: jackman93
 Android RTC's always start at 0 epoch and count up. The OS is responsible for storing the diff between the RTC epoch and the real current time
 Well, Qualcomm and Mediatek RTC's at least
 Salve
[22:59] <rapha> dohbee: i'm sorry i can't find the current version
 @jackman93, Hi!
 Ci sono italiani nel gruppo?
 There's a link on the Telegram welcome page! https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 https://t.me/ubportsitaliano
 or that
 Thanks
 Prego
 Is there any blog post from last meet up? Thanks
 Hmm... It would appear that there's not one published
 I would post a song from talk talk: Such a shame......but I won't :)
 @rapha, It's immediately above the last update time
[23:29] <rapha> dohbee: too late, going dev now :P
 @vanyasem, Fix the code to store the correct time somewhere at download time, instead
 Or implement Timekeep in the recovery
 @UniversalSuperBox, Timekeep in the recovery?????!!!????
 Yes, I know how hard timekeep was
 I'm just saying how you'd fix that things g
 @Stereofont, I solved by reinstalling Telegram
 Now I can only report that notifications arrive late compared to Android (about 30 seconds) and the stickers are not notified
 @UniversalSuperBox, But is not implemented on the recovery
 or just get rid of that "last updated" time in the UI
 @jackman93, Hello Giavomo and welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
 Well is implemented on init.rc file of the device