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magespawnGood morning all06:48
chesedomorning magespawn and othets06:55
chesedos/othets/others/06:55
* chesedo sees oom Kilos may have gotten up for a midnight snack06:56
LangjanHi to all10:10
inetprooh hi oom Langjan10:13
inetprohow are you doing?10:13
inetproand hello to everybody else as well10:14
LangjanHello inetpro, doing well thanks. And yourself? 10:14
inetproall good thanks10:14
inetprojust time flying way too fast10:15
LangjanIndeed! Year is gone10:15
LangjanGreat that you are well! Just wanted to pop in and wish everybody a blessed Christmas. 10:16
inetprothanks oom Jan, wishing you the same as well10:23
inetprohow are you doing?10:24
inetproI mean, what are you doing with yourself these days10:24
inetproyou don't come here often enough10:25
inetprooh and hi chesedo as well10:25
inetproand magespawn10:26
chesedohi oom Langjan10:27
chesedoand ty, and same there as pro said10:28
chesedooom Kilos wiil be here in a bit, his sound notifications are not working so he has to open his irc to see new messages10:29
LangjanHi chesedo 10:32
Langjaninetpro, I'm heavily involved with Transformation Prayer Ministry, lawn bowls, land rights negotiations in Mozambique and natural wellness in addition to my habit of doing all my own maintenance etc. around the home and car.  10:34
inetpronice job Langjan10:35
Kilosi am here10:35
Kiloshi everyone10:35
inetprooh hi oom Kilos as well10:35
LangjanHi Kilos hoesit? 10:35
LangjanSorry, oom Kilos 10:36
inetproKilos: you done your last minute christmas shopping yet?10:36
Kilosall ok here ty, all the best wishes for all of you10:36
LangjanThks Kilos 10:36
Kilosi dont shop10:36
inetprodankie oom10:36
inetproKilos: you must learn to do it like the young ones :-)10:37
inetprobuy and sell online10:37
Kiloslol do what like the young ones?10:37
LangjanBuy is easy, sell complicated10:37
Kilosoh no man you still need money for that10:38
Kilosi bought a hard drive like that remember10:38
inetproit's easy, always spend less than what you earn10:38
inetprosave and invest the left overs10:38
Kiloshaahahahaha10:39
LangjanI have bought three ssd's that way, best prices10:39
Kilosgrapmaker10:39
LangjanAnd put overdraft on fixed deposit...10:39
* inetpro the big financial advisor, just for today10:40
Kiloslol10:40
LangjanLmga! inetpro what advice about Bitcoin?10:41
inetproLangjan: haha, that's one dangerous game10:41
inetproespecially today10:41
inetpronot good for the heart10:41
inetproyou need nerves of steal10:41
LangjanYeah, good for speculators and gamblers10:41
inetprodid you look at that trend today?10:42
LangjanNope, not my cuppa tea10:43
LangjanPeople who market bitcoin as an investment should be jailed10:45
LangjanKilos, how are the girls in Melbourne10:46
Langjan?10:46
inetpromindboggling how the value of a BTC drops and returns to previous levels (not yet today) and higher10:46
inetprobut obviously there's no guarentees10:47
Kilosgirls are ok ty Langjan10:48
LangjanGood. A blessed Christmas to you and to them10:49
inetproLangjan: be brave and take 1% of your monthly savings and play with it 10:49
inetproI think digital currencies will be there in the long run10:50
Kiloseverything will be digital10:50
Kiloscash will disappear10:50
LangjanThks inetpro but whilst I agree with you, it's not the type of game that I like to play10:50
Kilosso will credit cards10:50
LangjanYou guys must enjoy your week end and have a lovely Christmas, may the joy and peace of the living King Jesus be with you.10:52
inetprobaie dankie oom Jan10:52
Kilosty Langjanand the same and more for you10:53
Langjan'Bye for now, see you in the new year if all goes well and take good care.10:53
LangjanThks Kilos 10:53
Kilosbe safe10:53
LangjanYou too young man10:53
inetproLangjan: best of wishes to you and the family as well10:53
Langjanthks inetpro 10:54
inetproalso hoping that we'll get some rain as well10:54
LangjanAgreed!10:54
LangjanCheers guys10:55
* chesedo converted some cash he did not care much about to some Bitcoins early in the month, then realised that it might be safer to spread them so moved some of it to Monero last week11:38
inetprowb melodie13:52
melodiethks inetpro 13:52
inetprohow are you doing?13:52
melodieI'm ok, just super busy13:53
melodiehave you seen my message on #ubuntu-africa?13:53
melodieno of course not13:53
inetpronope... not yet13:53
melodiefor the African countries speaking French:  https://aful.org/gul/liste#afrique13:53
melodiethere are perhaps some updates to be done on that page13:54
melodiethat's the list of the French speaking LUGs13:54
melodieKilos how are you?13:54
inetprooh no, unfortunately I don't yet do French13:54
melodiecome to France, I'll teach you :)13:54
melodiethen back to your place you'll teach others :D13:55
melodieok, have to do other stuff, install a Ubuntu Mate to a machine. have a nice day!13:55
inetprohaha... sounds like an interesting challenge13:55
inetprogood luck13:55
melodieI'm usually good at that kind of challenge, teaching people how to learn more efficiently. :)13:55
melodiethnks!13:55
Kiloshi melodieim ok ty 14:26
melodiehi Kilos !14:45
melodieI've read your crowdfunding page, I'm happy that it has been sorted out14:46
melodieare there still needs for financial support?14:46
melodieand are you watching your diet? 14:46
magespawnLater all15:03
Kiloswe are only half way melodie16:05
Kilosyes i am watching my diet carefully none of the good parts to eat anymore16:06
Kilos\hehe16:06
inetprochesedo: looks like every major cryptocurrency suffered double-digit losses in the last 24 hours17:12
inetproso I don't see the point of moving it out to another currency17:13
MaNIwell my crypto holdings have held value over the last 24 hours and are up over the last week, but I guess it depends how you choose to defined major whether you are right or not.18:25
inetproMaNI: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/bitcoins-price-is-down-33-percent-from-highs-earlier-this-week/18:30
MaNIyeah I'm well aware of that, I  don't hold any bitcoin18:39
MaNInor any of the other coins in that list, as I said depends on your definition of major - if it's the standard "high market cap" junk then yeah sure all 'major' crypto currencies have suffered double digit losses18:44
inetproMaNI: wow, what are you using?19:05
MaNIAs a measure of major? Well I tend to look at the utility of the currency and codebase.19:06
MaNIfor example bitcoin gold and bitcoin cash are not -major- they are a cheap copy of bitcoin that doesn't even have proper developers, nobody actually uses them for anything19:07
inetproI mean what cryptocurrency, we definitely need something that remains stable 19:07
MaNIthey are purely and simply a hype based trading vessel.19:07
MaNIwell I only hold Gulden currently, because it's now my full time job, and it would be a bit hypocritical to bet against myself :P19:08
MaNIalso as I develop it I'm confident that the developer is real and that actual code is being written - which is more than I can say for the other 99.9%19:08
MaNI*shrug*19:08
MaNIstill I'm sure if you look around there are others as well with some stability - people tend to only look at the headlines and coinmarketcap neither of which are really great for identifying actual projects of worth (IMO)19:09
inetproMaNI: interesting, thanks19:19
* inetpro feeling left far behind in the race 19:20
MaNIhehe19:21
Cryterioninetpro, you haven't looked at bitrex yet20:01
inetproCryterion: no, please tell me more20:01
* inetpro is a newbie in this game20:02
CryterionIt's a trading platform, all crypto, almost all crypto currencies either via bitcoin, or direct to that currency20:03
inetprocan I buy with ZAR?20:03
inetproor do I get a ZAR wallet there like Luno?20:03
Cryterionyes, but I'd sell atm if you have bitcoin, last I checked 1 BTC = ZAR 22700020:04
* inetpro has nothing to sell, so not much to lose20:04
inetprobut I guess I have to start somewhere, now that everyone is talking about it20:05
Cryterioncrypto to normal currency has to go through a bank that supports its, or some sort of exchange that does20:05
Cryterionlook at XMG20:05
CryterionI mine it20:06
inetproyikes!20:06
inetprosounds like hard labor20:06
Cryterionnetwork is down atm, some issue, but pool is running tests to go back online soon20:07
CryterionThink I'd done about ZAR 3 , with the BTC jump, it's about ZAR 40 now, small, but no loss if I play it20:08
inetproCryterion: what kind of hardware do you need for that?20:11
Cryterionit cpu minable, but I'm planning on switching it to a Raspberry Bank and building a solar powered system, I.E. free energy to mine20:13
Cryterioncurrently, just to play and learn it, my own pc's20:13
inetprowow, that sounds interesting indeed20:14
Cryterionhttps://xmg.minerclaim.net/index.php althought the network is down atm, should be back up soon, next day or so20:15
CryterionI just played it to see how thing go, but yes, it small amounts, but you're still gaining when that processor would normally be idle20:17
pavlushka/20:18
pavlushka//20:18
Cryterion.20:18
Cryterion..20:18
* inetpro also wants to feel what it's like to work in the mines one day20:19
Cryterionis gold reef city's mine still open?20:21
inetprohaha, I have no idea20:21
Cryterionwent down it, 1km, with the full battery pack to power the headlight in the late 80's, and got to hold and sold gold ingot20:22
inetprowow!20:27
Cryterionwe couldn't run out with it though :(20:29
MaNIhaha, they used to tell you if you could pick it up with one hand you could keep it, or something like that20:34
MaNIIIRC there was a bit of an incident where someone cheated20:34
CryterionI remember that, but they got held at gun point for that to happen20:49
Cryteriongold ingot is about 12.5kg's20:49
Cryterionand that's alloyed gold anyway20:50

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