[07:18] <ducasse> good morning
[07:31] <alkisg> Good morning all
[07:32] <ducasse> morning, alkisg
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> holiday!!!
[08:03] <ducasse> hi lotuspsychje - how are you today?
[08:03] <ducasse> merry xmas! :)
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> lol tnx
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> fine here ducasse and you?
[08:04] <ducasse> i'm ok, just a bit sleepy - lay awake really late.
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> lol ben64 vanished from the planet when we need him
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> breakfast guys
[12:15] <immu> hi all
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:30] <immu> hi all
[12:30] <immu> again :)
[12:34] <immu> whats up all
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> hi immu BluesKaj
[14:08] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[14:08] <immu> hi BluesKaj lotuspsychje EriC^^ ducasse
[14:08] <immu> did i forget someone
[14:09] <BluesKaj> hi immu
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> alkisg oerheks daftykins TJ- all the good friends
[14:10] <immu> daftykins, TJ- oerheks yeah they too howdie all
[14:11] <BluesKaj> and Hi pauljw, TJ-
[14:12] <pauljw> hey BluesKaj, everyone :)
[14:36] <immu> whats up allll
[14:43] <alkisg> Heeey all :)
[14:48] <BluesKaj> hey alkisg
[15:15] <immu> can we move past the hi hellosss
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> updated bug for 18.04 also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1702347
[17:12] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1702347 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Graphical glitches in screen by default on 17.10 & 18.04" [Undecided,New]
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> xorg glitching and wayland lagging..this aint good news
[17:15] <TJ-> which kernel?
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: Linux R00TB0X 4.13.0-17-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 6 10:04:08 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic artful
[17:16] <TJ-> hmm, i was suspecting kernel DRM but unlikely if it's still on 4.13, must be something in the video driver. might be specific to the GPU
[17:16] <ubot5> linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.13.0.21.22 (artful), package size 2 kB, installed size 14 kB
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: ok i got an old ati x800, but xenial running fine on it and lightweight
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> the other machine i tested had nvidia
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> 2 out of 3 systems didnt like wayland for now
[17:18] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: you have 2 reports there, original for nvidia, last for ATI
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: yes, i didnt want to create a double bug for bionic
[17:19] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: was it the same motherboard both times ?
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: no, 2 different machines laptop and desktop
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> on my netbook bionic runs without glitches on xorg, wayland lagging
[17:21] <TJ-> hmmm, hard to say what that might be
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> all system does not feel as smooth as unity
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> perhaps a gnome thing?
[17:22] <TJ-> anything in the logs?
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> lemme check
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: https://hastebin.com/ganekaminu.vbs
[17:25] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: i just get blank pages at hastebin
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> unk
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: https://pastebin.com/x0LwzZq5
[17:28] <TJ-> maybe related "powernow_k8: Make sure that your BIOS is up to date and Cool'N'Quiet support is enabled in BIOS setup"
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> hmm lemme go check that
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> brb
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: was disabled, but glitches persist
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> scrolling, running windows over others all give looktru and disforming
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> cant catch in imgur, as i have to move
[17:35] <TJ-> there's also this: "[    0.084855] acpi PNP0A03:00: fail to add MMCONFIG information, can't access extended PCI configuration space under this bridge."
[17:36] <TJ-> try adding "pci=realloc" to the kernel commmand line
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> there was some setting on PNP in bios
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: look what weird error i get on kazam
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> r300: driver missing
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> lshw gives me 1 radeon car and the other unclaimed
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> card
[17:39] <TJ-> it could just be the AGP card, it's using a 128MB window
[17:40] <TJ-> actually, the AGP bridge is there but there's no card. maybe the AGP needs disabling in BIOS?
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> but if this was hardware, unity would go crazy also no?
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> same system runs fine on xenial
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> lets have a look about agp
[17:42] <TJ-> yeah, you'd expect so
[17:42] <TJ-> I'm just trying to spot obvious problem areas; that's about all there is in the logs
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> i suspect gnome
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> handling something different then unity
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> brb
[17:44] <TJ-> the glitching could be related to the powernow stuff though, which if I recall correctly, manages CPU frequencies to control power/thermal envelope
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: ill do a few tests later tnx
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[22:30] <ojeakyun> Hi