[00:33] <r3kz> I install mate and got some kinda warning during the apt-get update, about broken dependencies, after I ran apt-get check, that showed nothing, anyone have any idea what this is about?
[00:33] <r3kz> s/install/installed
[02:21] <adam5isalive> Hey guys
[02:22] <adam5isalive> Anyone ever seen libvert-qemu show up as a user at login?
[02:51] <elisha> i need help
[02:52] <elisha> i need to install whatsapp
[02:52] <elisha> on my pc
[03:15] <adam5isalive> Anyone ever seen libvert-qemu show up as a user at login?
[03:51] <EldonMcGuinness> Whatsapp on your pc?
[03:51] <EldonMcGuinness> Isn't that a web app?
[03:52] <EldonMcGuinness> adam5isalive, if you're still there: https://askubuntu.com/questions/897026/why-do-i-have-a-libvirt-qemu-account-in-lock-switch-account-options-in-ubuntu
[05:48] <Guest89262> hi i logged in my first raspberry pi
[08:57] <alkisg> flexiondotorg: in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/ubuntu-mate.bionic/live you select "fcitx-bin" but not "fcitx".
[08:57] <alkisg> But in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu-mate.bionic/live the result is that fcitx is installed anyway because of Recommends: chains.
[08:57] <alkisg> Maybe remove fcitx-bin completely from the seeds, since it's causing so many issues?
[10:45] <mate|14054> hi
[10:46] <mate|14054> hi
[10:49] <alkisg> hi
[10:49] <diogenes_> h
[10:49] <diogenes_> i
[14:49] <adam5isalive> Anyone ever seen libvert-qemu show up as a user at login?
[15:53] <twosky2000> hey there, how do i best integrate openvpn in to mate? i saw there's openvpn gnome tool, but seams suboptimal
[16:12] <mate|53499> hello, is there a mate in French?
[18:44] <donofrio> help how do I fix this package issue (https://apaste.info/n5xb)....fresh install of mate, apt-get upgraded so all updates applied, then I install packages I need when I look at remmina its 1.1.2 and I require 1.2.0 in order to connect to my work windows boxes. I added the remmina-next and then upgraded and these packages are 'held back?' I need 1.2.0 please if you have a moment and know what I should do I'm all ears....
[19:01] <pavlushka> donofrio: can you try 'sudo apt -y full-upgrade'
[19:01] <pavlushka> ?
[19:03] <donofrio> uh sure (your second person to ask me that) did you see the apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade (don't the three commands do the same thing as apt full-upgrade?)
[19:07] <pavlushka> yeah
[19:08] <pavlushka> donofrio: but I am on 16.04 and your method worked for me without any issue
[19:11] <pavlushka> donofrio: my results https://apaste.info/trhc
[19:17] <donofrio> pavlushka, https://apaste.info/wJvc ;(
[19:18] <donofrio> I'm 16.04 as well
[19:19] <donofrio> https://apaste.info/9CoW
[19:20]  * pavlushka trying to tric
[19:21] <pavlushka> *k
[19:22] <pavlushka> donofrio: you might try 'apt remove remmina-common --force'
[19:23] <pavlushka> donofrio: and then if anything goes wrong, do a 'sudo apt install -f'
[19:23] <donofrio> I'll try that right now....
[19:24] <donofrio> it returned "E: Command line option --force is not understood in combination with the other options"
[19:24] <pavlushka> and donofrio cut out --force, use the basic
[19:25] <donofrio> k
[19:26] <donofrio> https://apaste.info/JhDr
[19:27] <donofrio> this is where I get stuck....been here many times: https://apaste.info/a0MC
[19:27] <pavlushka> donofrio: now just install remmina by 'sudo apt install remmina'
[19:31] <pavlushka> donofrio: try 'sudo apt update' again
[19:31] <donofrio> k
[19:32] <donofrio> https://apaste.info/AbCF
[19:32] <donofrio> (no joy) https://apaste.info/aRK0
[19:34] <pavlushka> donofrio: the difference is between powerpc and amd64
[19:34] <pavlushka> donofrio: may be powerpc version has some package issue
[19:34] <donofrio> not looking for quick answer just feels like I'm close but....
[19:35] <diogenes_> donofrio, try: sudo apt --fix-broken install
[19:35] <pavlushka> donofrio: I suggest you to joing #ubunt and port your issue there and if not fixed, file a bug
[19:35] <pavlushka> #ubuntu
[19:36] <donofrio> E: Command line option --fix-broken is not understood in combination with the other options
[19:36] <pavlushka> donofrio: but you should 'sudo apt install -f'
[19:37] <donofrio> https://apaste.info/nqXe
[19:38] <donofrio> and I have lurked in #ubuntu for years ;)
[19:39] <donofrio> they won't be fixing this, powerpc is dead to them.....but I seen ubuntu mate with people showing it's about the only thing that will from right on g5's
[19:39] <diogenes_> donofrio, you could try to create a new user and try there, maybe some configs got meesed up
[19:39] <pavlushka> o/ diogenes_
[19:40] <donofrio> brand new install from the dvd iso
[19:40]  * pavlushka giving way to diogenes_ 
[19:40] <diogenes_> pavlushka, :)
[19:40] <donofrio> again not looking for instant resoution (would be nice) just want this working sometime.....
[19:40] <donofrio> older hardware is still rockin....
[19:41] <diogenes_> pavlushka is a russian name isn't it?
[19:42] <pavlushka> yes diogenes_ the Philosopher
[19:42] <diogenes_> hehe
[19:43] <pavlushka> but me from UTC+6 locale - BD
[19:43] <diogenes_> what is BD?
[19:44] <diogenes_> donofrio, let's see what you got under the hood, tun: inxi -Fxrc0 | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:45] <donofrio> http://termbin.com/xno6
[19:45] <pavlushka> diogenes_: Its country code of Bangladesh
[19:45] <diogenes_> pavlushka, I see
[19:49] <diogenes_> donofrio, why do you get the remmina ppa? isn't it available from the default repo? (sorry I haven't used ubuntu based for awhile, hard to remember)
[19:49] <donofrio> diogenes_, only 1.1.2 is available and that will not connect to my windows hosts, I need 1.2.0 for it to work....
[19:50] <diogenes_> donofrio, have you ever had 1.2.0 working on this machine before?
[19:51] <donofrio> yes when I was debian 9, no sound loaded and video had issues but yah worked great with d9)
[19:52] <diogenes_> donofrio, debian is debian what about this particular OS and version?
[19:52] <donofrio> only on x86
[19:53] <diogenes_> so on this OS version you haven't tried yet? it's the first time?
[19:54] <donofrio> oh no tried it many times, didn't work or broken package issue, tred ubuntu server with me manually installing xfce gdm and such, didn't woork then as well..second time trying mate
[19:57] <diogenes_> donofrio, my advice is to try to compile it: https://github.com/FreeRDP/Remmina
[19:58] <donofrio> its some sort of package depenancy issue, like how do I force it to use only -next repo when apt-get installing?
[19:59] <diogenes_> donofrio, have you ever heard such term as "dependency hell"?
[19:59] <donofrio> yah
[19:59] <diogenes_> then this is now what's happening in this case, once you got in there, you can't get out
[20:00] <donofrio> what about https://apaste.info/B5xD?
[20:03] <donofrio> :( https://apaste.info/anJK
[20:05] <diogenes_> donofrio, try this: https://bintray.com/probono/AppImages/download_file?file_path=Remmina-1.2.0.glibc2.15-x86_64.AppImage
[20:06] <pavlushka> donofrio: you have done that much to make work remmina then you should try compiling and install remmina in the least :p
[20:14] <alkisg> donofrio: have you tried installing the package from bionic to xenial?
[20:14] <alkisg> (without using a ppa)
[20:14] <donofrio> no not yet (open to idea's)
[20:18] <alkisg> donofrio: actually wait, the ppa worked fine here
[20:19] <alkisg> So you must have installed some other package that breaks it, let me check...
[20:19] <alkisg> donofrio: to make sure, you're trying to install this on 16.04, correct? https://launchpad.net/~remmina-ppa-team/+archive/ubuntu/remmina-next
[20:19] <donofrio> I'll rebuild if I need to in order to get this working
[20:19] <donofrio> yah
[20:19] <alkisg> There's no need to rebuild anything, for me it worked fine
[20:19] <alkisg> Just add-apt-repository and apt install remmina
[20:20] <donofrio> I did that already
[20:20] <diogenes_> donofrio, you tried the link I gave?
[20:20] <alkisg> Sorry, if you already installed it what's the issue then?
[20:21] <donofrio> yah stopped when he said it worked for him....
[20:21] <alkisg> donofrio: what architecture are you using? I tried on i386...
[20:22] <donofrio> http://termbin.com/xno6
[20:23] <alkisg> donofrio: I'm missing something... PPAs don't build for powerpc, where did you get the git version of remmina, from somewhere else?
[20:23] <alkisg> https://launchpad.net/~remmina-ppa-team/+archive/ubuntu/remmina-next/+sourcepub/8419021/+listing-archive-extra
[20:23] <alkisg> No powerpc there
[20:24] <donofrio> it worked when I was in debain9
[20:25] <alkisg> The ppa worked?
[20:25] <donofrio> yah I thought it did, I've rebuilt this rig with "a few" distro's and reinstalls ten's of times
[20:25] <donofrio> so I forget
[20:25] <alkisg> What's the output of this? apt policy 'remmina*' | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:26] <alkisg> Ubuntu and Debian do have powerpc builds, but not PPAs
[20:26] <donofrio> http://termbin.com/f7f6
[20:26] <alkisg> Specifically, the powerpc build for bionic is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/remmina/1.2.0-rcgit.24-3ubuntu1/+build/13685103
[20:28] <donofrio> no powerpc64 just ppcel ;(   it said "Error: Wrong archiyeyire 'ppc64el'
[20:29] <alkisg> donofrio: so, the PPA doesn't have powerpc builds. So you can only get the remmina-common package from there, because it's for "all" architectures, but the other ones not; that's why you get dependency failures
[20:29] <alkisg> So, remove that PPA AND the remmina-common package, it won't help you
[20:29] <donofrio> ok what do I try steps?
[20:30] <alkisg> ppcel is different from powerpc64?
[20:30] <alkisg> Then you'll need to find the package in the bionic "ports" site
[20:30] <donofrio> yah ports is what I'm doing
[20:30] <donofrio> when it comes to debain
[20:31] <alkisg> http://us.ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/universe/r/remmina/
[20:32] <alkisg> All the necessary ppc64el.deb 1.2.0-rcgit packages from there...
[20:32] <alkisg> Download them and dpkg -i install them
[20:35] <donofrio> no only the dbg and plugin's are at that url /r/remmina I need remmina-plugin-rdp ;(
[20:36] <alkisg> donofrio: that's in main, us.ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/r/remmina/
[20:37] <donofrio> ah
[20:38] <donofrio> it's tryin
[20:38] <donofrio> said older version normally used - lol it installed common 1.2.0 just now
[20:39] <mate|76079> hello, just a hint please, is there a screenshooter for the top panel in Mate? Such as the Xfce4 applet for instance?
[20:39] <donofrio> common 1.2.0 worked cause it was an _all dep
[20:40] <donofrio> cannot find plugin-rdp for _all
[20:40] <donofrio> ?
[20:40] <donofrio> heck I cannot any more _all.deb there ;(
[20:40] <donofrio> in main
[20:41] <diogenes_> mate|76079, try shutter
[20:41] <donofrio> I'm not opposed to compiling if I have to just want to ensure steps needed to have a clean compile
[20:42] <mate|76079> hi,we tried shutter, but it needs to access the preferences to add the delay, it's too much for the user whom I"ve installed
[20:42] <mate|76079> diogenes_: this is why I come here to ask if something as simple as the xfce applet could be available for mate
[20:46] <mate|76079> diogenes_: we pressed the printscreen key and that workes, so pb solved. :)
[20:46] <mate|76079> thanks for your help (even if ... )
[20:46] <mate|76079> bye now!
[20:48] <donofrio> was that a driveby?
[20:59] <swift110> hey all
[21:00] <diogenes_> hey
[21:42] <mate|47353> Hi all, I can seem to find l3tp vpn. Do i need to install a package. Ubuntu 17.10 Mate
[21:42] <mate|47353> l2tp, sorry
[21:43] <Menzanta|phone> !info l2tp
[21:43] <Menzanta|phone> Hold on