[20:43] @KMyers I think I may invest my documenting into Evernote after a bit of research. @AdamOutler may have his last laugh now, I can't escape the cloud. [20:44] There's just not enough software that is designed for a multi-computer workflow [20:44] @RazPi, Evernote is the best thing out there. There are some self hosted options however [20:44] To host evernote? [20:45] @RazPi, Alternatives to Evernote [20:45] https://github.com/Laverna [20:45] Ohh thanks [20:46] I might be stuck with Evernote because I'm interested in the compatibility with the livescribe pen [20:46] http://paperwork.rocks/ [20:46] I have an echo, but I can't find it, I might want the LiveScribe3 over it anyhow [20:46] * RazPi clicks [20:48] Gosh [20:48] I might have to keep an eye on these [20:48] I do have to admit one thing. I do pay for Evernote personally. It does do quite a lot better than some of the other options [20:48] Yes I was thinking of going to the standard pay at least, but I'm considering putting all bills, receipts, and any other notes I take on it [20:49] There was one called OwnNotes for OwnCloud but unfortunately it is not being maintained [20:50] My main worry about having my data spread across many web services is what if one shuts down [20:50] Some tax sites recommend keeping data for 7+ years [20:50] @RazPi, That is why I self host all of my stuff [20:51] Not that google will ever shut down, but its easier to track down one root folder with all your documents, tar it up, move it [20:51] But logging in over and over again, exporting, and then having no program to put it in if the main company shuts down [20:52] Oh it looks like evernote has a mass export option [20:53] @RazPi, Yes and it is a fairly open format that most alternatives can easily import [20:53] And Evernote has 2 factor authentication support [20:53] After looking a little more into finances, it looks like I can do a lot with OpenOffice Calc, and I might move over family finances to GnuCash [20:53] I apparently don't need quickbooks until I have a company with employees [20:54] Other than that, TurboTax is probably the only proprietary software I need to actually buy [20:54] I personally use Mint for finances. It is cloud based and owned by Intuit so it won't be going anywhere [20:54] I believe TurboTax is also mint? [20:55] I'm going to see how far I can take my self employment deductions [20:55] I'm independently consulting, so I think I get tax breaks [20:55] @RazPi, They are both owned by Intuit but different products [20:55] Although it does share logins [20:56] @RazPi, You can in most cases. [23:25] This is a sad day [23:36] ? [23:37] Miyako closed [23:42] Nooooo