| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:21 |
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| thelinuxbox | Good morning | 10:18 |
| brobostigon | morning | 10:25 |
| zmoylan-pi | o/ | 10:33 |
| Laney | hmm | 10:40 |
| Laney | switched to tmux, and now arrow keys don't work in irssi | 10:40 |
| Laney | what's up with that | 10:40 |
| Laney | lemme see... | 10:43 |
| Laney | nope :( | 10:45 |
| thelinuxbox | recently i had the need to create a minimal ubuntu iso, it turned out in my experience so far to be a lot harder than expected, i've filed what i think is a bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-build/+bug/1739790 because my post on the forums went unanswered, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2379618, perhaps i've made a mistake in my shell script (it's posted on both the forum and bug | 10:46 |
| thelinuxbox | report)? | 10:46 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 1739790 in live-build (Ubuntu) "live-build fails to build" [Undecided,New] | 10:46 |
| thelinuxbox | any feedback would be much appreciated, thank you very much :) | 10:46 |
| thelinuxbox | it's my understanding live-build ia the best tool to use to build a minimal iso of ubuntu | 10:51 |
| thelinuxbox | i'm not sure if ubuntu-defaults-template might be an alternative solution, i've tried it and looked online for documentation to make a minimal build template but couldn't locate a proper solution | 10:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | arrow keys seem to work in irssi and tmux for me. maybe your terminal emulator is acting the goat? | 11:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | up n down scroll through previous comments, left n right through current text on comment line | 11:08 |
| ChunkzZ | sup, merry christmas all. :) | 11:12 |
| thelinuxbox | Hi ChunkzZ :) | 11:13 |
| thelinuxbox | merry christmas, for tomorrow :P | 11:14 |
| thelinuxbox | if their are any other alternatives to building an iso from scratch that anyone could share it would be much appreciated, thanks :) | 11:51 |
| thelinuxbox | i installed live-build on my debian machine, it worked without any issue's, so it seems like the ubuntu build is broken :( | 14:35 |
| daftykins | hrmm why do people always want to reinvent the wheel? | 16:53 |
| penguin42 | too round | 16:54 |
| daftykins | :D | 16:55 |
| daftykins | how are things up north, penguin42? | 16:55 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: OK, getting very little done | 16:55 |
| daftykins | hehe 'tis the season | 16:56 |
| daftykins | i've definitely turned into a full-blown home owner, i want to go upstairs and put another coat of paint on a window instead of enjoy entertainment | 16:56 |
| penguin42 | haha | 16:57 |
| daftykins | wow at Mozilla reviving Thunderbird, that's novel news | 16:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | and they're going to keep adding feature to it till they finally add email? :-P | 16:58 |
| daftykins | maybe one day :D | 16:58 |
| daftykins | first up is breaking all old legacy addon support, apparently | 16:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | a mozilla speciality... | 16:58 |
| daftykins | it's funny because i just got through heavily advising against going anywhere near Thunderbird to a mate in the US who for some reason is encountering a tonne of quirks in MS Outlook land :) | 16:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | not chuck out the baby apple level but still | 16:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | thunderbird v outlook... stuck between rock and an awful place... | 17:41 |
| daftykins | well i quickly learnt the problem sounded more like his workplaces' setup of hosted IMAP mailboxes rather than doing it right, but i've certainly never had Outlook crash for clients so i figured the laptops he has dished out must be quirky all of their own | 17:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | last time i installed outlook it was yonks ago. it was fairly crashy then... | 17:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | my main reason for hating it (beyond it been ms ::spit:: ) was the search was just so awful | 17:45 |
| * penguin42 is curious what's wrong with Thunderbird (although I'm a mutt user so hey) | 17:47 | |
| zmoylan-pi | i used to use thunderbird ages back but it got slower and slower as they stuffed more things into it | 17:47 |
| daftykins | penguin42: well it got dumped until now, for one - so it's been in ESR status for yonks - but when i put it in for a couple of clients it's just horrid to extract data from afterward | 17:49 |
| daftykins | plus using a client in the first place is particularly outmoded now | 17:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | i use claws email client atm. but use evolution for archiving all my email to local store | 17:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | claws is tiny lite email client. fire up evolutuion once a week to pull stuff down | 17:50 |
| thelinuxbox | Hi :) | 18:23 |
| daftykins | ah you're back | 18:24 |
| daftykins | yeah don't waste your time reinventing the wheel, just get a server ISO and select nothing when tasksel runs | 18:25 |
| thelinuxbox | I sure am, ah that's a great idea, thanks very much! :D | 18:25 |
| daftykins | np | 18:26 |
| thelinuxbox | by selecting noting when tasksel runs, the server iso basically becomes what the alternative iso use to be before it got discontinued? | 18:26 |
| thelinuxbox | alternate* | 18:27 |
| daftykins | it's been so long i forget what that even used to do | 18:28 |
| daftykins | !alternate | 18:28 |
| lubotu3 | The alternate CD has been discontinued for the main Ubuntu distro, please use and report any bugs in the !LiveCD | 18:28 |
| daftykins | wow they updated something | 18:28 |
| thelinuxbox | :) | 18:28 |
| daftykins | seems they do pack a bit of cruft into server these days versus say, debian net installs, but it's small enough still that it's pretty moot to be concerned | 18:29 |
| daftykins | if you don't have 2GB spare, it's time to phone the museum | 18:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | 2gb? luxury... in my day we had to compile uphill in the dark and rain there and back again... | 22:21 |
| daftykins | zmoylan-pi: :) | 23:30 |
| daftykins | zmoylan-pi: have you caught the update? https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/22/gemini_special/ | 23:35 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: I hope they leave the keytops blank | 23:39 |
| daftykins | ;D | 23:39 |
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