[00:00] You've got your files, you've got your Win installer. Go for it! [00:00] Yeah its installing right now [00:02] Looking for help getting mDNS lookups working on 17.10 [00:06] I have a buffalo link station. How to permanently mount the share. [00:07] whenever i go on away, i get disconnected minutes later. that's annoying [00:09] how to mount a smb share. [00:10] Awesome! [00:10] It worked [00:10] Windows is working too [00:11] There was a funny glitch screen though when I chose the option to boot Windows, but after it came to login screen after sometime and everything seems the same afterward [00:14] Within Windows 10 I am seeing the formerly free space as two partitions now marke as "Healthy (Primary Partition)" the first 45.04 gb the second 3.78 gb. No drive appears on "This PC" however, just as before. Is this normal? [00:14] *marked [00:15] I hope its alright. [00:16] Anyways the whole operation was really scary lol [00:16] Thanks to the people who allayed my fears [00:17] I am asking the partition matter on ##windows too just to be sure [00:17] yes, Ubuntu partitions would show up in Windows' disk management but wouldn't have a drive under This PC [00:17] that's how Windows handles partitions it doesn't understand, in general [00:18] Thanks! [00:19] the first one will be / (basically, where all linux data + boot code is), the second (small one) will be swap [00:19] pikapika: Good to know, enjoy! [00:19] :) [00:20] jeffrey_: you can place it in /etc/fstab [00:21] jeffrey_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently [00:29] How do I disable .Trash-1000 on removable drives but not my main drive? [00:36] Thedarkb, just remembering to use shift-delete is probably the simplest way [00:36] How do I disable .Trash-1000 on removable drives but not my main drive? [00:36] A feature windows has had since 95 [00:37] don't get me wrong, I've been using Lubuntu exclusively since 2011, but .Trash-1000 is a pain in the arse. [00:40] Thedarkb, I've taken a look and I don't see a good way of disabling it partially. [00:40] Who's idea was this? [00:42] I think Debian introduced the Trash folder for graphical file managers. [00:42] Hi [00:43] Is it time to change file managers? [00:43] Now, if there's only a few specific drives, you can touch a file called .Trash-1000 and it will block things being moved there [00:43] Thedarkb, I only use a graphical file manager for photos and movies, for thumbnails. bash is quicker for most things. [00:44] I like my drag and drop. [00:45] I have mounted one of the drives by adding a line to /etc/fstab. But I can't rename the files or folders in that drive in nautilus. This is the line that i have added "UUID=82D06FC5D06FBDD3 /home/extra ntfs defaults 0 2" what is the problem? [00:49] Thedarkb: I find that holding shift while dragging to the trashcan permanently deletes a file. [00:49] Not in that context [00:49] I mean I like to drag files around, which is why I don't use bash. [00:49] I'm competent with bash, I'm not fast with it though. [01:01] i've got an ubuntu 16.04 vm that's dying about once a day on a kernel panic, and I don't really know how to proceed. Here's what i was able to get from the virsh console when the VM died https://pastebin.ca/3951578 [01:05] Thedarkb: Then maybe make a little desktop launcher that empties the trash, or just empty it whenever it has something in it? [01:05] I want the trash can to still work on my main HDD [01:05] Freezing while shutting down [01:06] Used to boot by command acpi=off [01:06] Idk what this command does [01:06] Found it on a forum [01:10] nerdyass: Rather then disbling ACPI - replace the table. SEE: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html . [01:16] hey guys, in Ubuntu, how may I figure out the form factor of my laptop hard disk drive? I want to know if its the thin or the thick one [01:16] just lazy to open it up and check it [01:17] I used to use a command, but then can't recall [01:20] Dear friends when i update firefox in ubuntu i got firefix 57.0.1 version, but in that firebug extension will not work . please help to downgrade it to firefix 56 itself [01:31] anyone here? [01:31] HyperHorse: Yep. [01:31] i tried to install Ubuntu yesterday [01:31] and i got a couple of error messages [01:31] you want the whole lot with the long numbers? [01:33] Mr_Cyclops: Try lshw -C disk [01:33] Mr_Cyclops: With a sudo in front. [01:33] That'd be good. Use pastebin.ubuntu.com [01:33] ........... [01:33] ????? [01:34] Hyperhorse: paste the error there and share the link here [01:34] Hyperhorse: I'm assuming the error is quite long, not ideal for a chat message [01:35] Mr_Cyclops: Or hwinfo --disk [01:36] https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26242438/ [01:36] only 2 lines :-P [01:37] thanks rypervenche ,,, I was using smartctl -i /dev/sda and lshw commands ... letme try hwinfo as well [01:38] HyperHorse: did it halt the installation or you were able to finish it? [01:38] rypervenche, the output of your command, still can't figure out what I am looking for [01:39] no i was not able to finish install [01:40] i waited a few mins b4 deciding to flick the reset switch [01:50] HyperHorse: For what I've seen it's solved by adding radeon.modset=0 in the grub config file, but that's on installed systems. Not a solution since your system isn't installed, but it's a start [01:53] HyperHorse: and 'radeon.dpm=0' [01:54] i'll give it a shot [01:54] no one here uses discord/skype? [01:55] I'm going through the arch wiki for ATI, but I haven't deal with this issue before. Perhaps someone else have [01:55] I thought everyone stopped using Skype when Microsoft bought it [01:55] ........ lol yeah right [01:56] i still use it from time to time for phone calls [01:56] You know Microsoft is listening. I'm pretty sure they stole my prize cookie recipe [01:56] ............. [01:56] lol ? [01:57] Yes, a joke, though I am possibly insane. Doesn't seem to matter on irc. [01:57] xalen, so i just add that at the end of the scrub boot options? [01:58] i dont need to add a dash or anything? [01:59] Anyone familiar with doing incremental backups with tar? [01:59] * HyperHorse waves @ EldonMcGuinness [02:00] lol, were you just waiting for someone to pop in? [02:01] EldonMcGuinness: For incremental backups, I find rsync to be the best. [02:02] meh, be back in a bit [02:03] EldonMcGuinness: The problem with tar is that it's hard to figure out what is different between two backups since the backups are usually compressed. I like to use rsync with hard links so that I can have many backups that don't take up a whole lot of extra space. [02:04] I was considering rsync actually, but I was not sure if that would work well with an ftp destination. [02:04] EldonMcGuinness: There are also programs out there that can do all of that for you. Personally, I prefer a script with plain rsync. [02:04] EldonMcGuinness: I suppose the first question is why are you using FTP instead of SSH/SFTP? [02:04] yea I was going to whip up a script with tar, but had a question about the incremental file. I'll give rsync another read. [02:05] (rsync uses SSH) [02:06] well the ftp is an in-house server. I've not looked to see if they offer an ssh connection with it. Let me check that out first. [02:14] yea they only offer a regular ftp connection to it, though that is not an issues as I just mount the ftp share when needed. It is ip limited and in the same datacenter, so I'm not really worried. [02:14] And the data is nothing sensitive so meh, just data I would rather not have to re-pull from original sources. [02:15] EldonMcGuinness: Ahh, so this is something like a data center providing you with a backup FTP server? [02:16] indeed [02:16] Hmmm, I don't think you'll be able to have a real incremental backup system set up with FTP in the mix. [02:17] You could have one locally that you then sync via FTP to your backup. Or that you tar up and keep a certain number of backups, but that won't be incremental. [02:17] well I know I can use tar, I'm just going to have to read how the incremental file it creates is needed. Going to give it a whirl. [02:17] Yea, tar does have an incremental option, but there is an odd line about making a copy of a list file that has me a bit confused. Guess I just need to experiment to see what it needs. [02:17] Yeah, I don't have experience with the incremental options in tar. Good luck :) [02:17] :D [02:18] Differential is easy enough and I might just go that route if all else fails [02:26] im back [02:27] xalen, yo? [02:32] bbs [02:34] HyperHorse: Sorry, I was reading and saw your message after you left [02:34] After editing grub config file, you should always regenerate it to take effect [02:37] got it working @rypervenche :D [02:41] Now I just need to do a bit of cleanup and argument processing to make sure it is sane enough for others to use [02:45] had to do a bit of trickery with the ftp mount, since the snapshot file does not seem to get created. [02:46] EldonMcGuinness: Nice. [02:50] @rypervenche https://pastebin.com/iJjAnyNS in case you're interested. [02:50] using the formatted date-stamp I'll be able to make sure restores are automatically done in the right order, assuming the clock never gets screwed up on the server heh [02:52] Ah nice. I'll have to play around with this. [02:55] fun times, now to let screen run and backup this metadata. 30GB worth, this will need coffee [02:56] EldonMcGuinness: Cool, just learned it. How many levels of backups do you plan on having? [02:57] Just level 1s? [02:57] Then occasionally a new level 0? [02:58] I suppose that's how it's done with differential backups. [03:01] Na going to do a weekly backup and likely a running 6 months [03:01] So 24 ish [03:03] Will need to build in an argument for Max number, but that is trivial [03:09] EldonMcGuinness: Nice. Always learning something new. [03:12] Yeah love nix [03:13] For ssh sessions is /etc/bash.bashrc supposed to read? [03:14] I've added a line to this file for testing and it doesnt appear to be read when I ssh, however ~/.bashrc is. [03:16] Depends on the system I believe, but .bashrc and .profile should work [03:18] Hey guys, could anyone tell me if the 40MB ubuntu net install ISO could be converted into a live CD ISO on chroot? [03:21] socomm: this might help ya https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=51710 [03:23] EldonMcGuinness: Thank you. [03:29] I've been unable to get updates from xenial-updates, xenial-backports and xenial-security for a few days now when I run sudo apt-get update. Could it be a problem with my regional server? [03:29] This problem prevents me from also installing new software besides updating my current stack [03:32] fightthewalrus: Pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' so we see the errors in context . [03:35] Bashing-om: ok, here it is https://paste.ubuntu.com/26242920/ [03:38] fightthewalrus: look'n . [03:42] fightthewalrus: change your mirror and try again (??) . [05:26] im back, finally [05:27] wb [05:35] Privet Vsem! [05:36] BuRaT1No: can we help you? [05:37] wut [05:37] I auto logged into ubuntu [05:37] was registered nick removed? [05:37] да все нормально... просто поздоровался ... i am just say HellO! ) [05:38] ......... fucking cyrllic script [05:38] your brain will pop inside out if you use that too long [05:38] don`t f.... )) [05:39] HyperHorse: keep language family friendly here please [05:39] BuRaT1No: this is english ubuntu support only [05:39] !ru | BuRaT1No [05:39] BuRaT1No: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [05:39] thx ) [05:39] borka borka borka [05:40] HyperHorse: stop that please [05:40] cya [05:40] Zensei: you need to register to use #ubuntu now [05:42] I know lotuspsychje, which is why im surprised im here [05:42] I have it set to autologon, but I never enter here because my nick registers after the room opens [05:42] but [05:42] im here [05:42] Im weirded out [05:48] Zensei: you need to set the SASL method [05:48] Zensei: then you will identify before enter [05:49] Thanks :) [05:58] <_kk22kk_> hi all, am using ubuntu 17.10 on DELL inspiron laptop with 2 GB RAM, 32 bit Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU. On the same laptop its been 5+ years of running ubuntu [05:58] <_kk22kk_> issue: it frequently freezes... everything is standstill.. keyboard and mouse go standstill [05:58] <_kk22kk_> any idea how to debug? i have searched UBUNTU forums and stackoverflow but couldnt find any thread which solves my issue.. [05:58] get more RAM [05:58] when was the last time u changed the thermal compound on the cpu? [05:59] <_kk22kk_> hmm...i havent changed it at all.. [05:59] the cpu might be overheating [05:59] <_kk22kk_> oh [05:59] you running any diagnostic software to keep track of internal temps? [05:59] <_kk22kk_> but i did not have this issue until i updated to 17.10 [05:59] is your room getting noticeably warm? [05:59] so go back to the previous version [06:00] <_kk22kk_> no i havent..room is also not that warm because the laptop stays close to a window [06:00] <_kk22kk_> previous version 17.04 had no such issues [06:01] <_kk22kk_> any tips if i can fix this issue with 17.10 instead of a rollback??? [06:02] <_kk22kk_> the same laptop has a dual boot wiith windows and that has no issues. for this point i alon i feel " HW or motherboard or CPU" is perfectly fine [06:03] _kk22kk_: did you try the xorg session? [06:03] <_kk22kk_> i havent tried... good suggestion [06:04] _kk22kk_: try and come back plz [06:04] <_kk22kk_> ok thanks [06:06] check your packages [06:06] <_kk22kk_> like? [06:06] I noticed mine had a ridiculous amount of packages I never need nor use, like all the desktop environments [06:06] <_kk22kk_> i use bleachbit and cleared all unwanted.. but thanks for the tip! [06:08] test [06:09] <_kk22kk_> test what? u mean harddisk test? [06:13] _kk22kk_ test of your patience :-P [06:16] <_kk22kk_> :p [06:18] <_kk22kk_> best suggestion till date :-) [06:18] _kk22kk_: im bug testing 17.10 & 18.04 xorg/wayland got some open bugs on it, plz go test the xorg session [06:18] <_kk22kk_> ok sure i am doing it rightaway [06:18] <_kk22kk_> thanks again [06:23] i'm able to find caffe-cuda on packages.ubuntu but i don't seem to be able to get it out of apt-get [06:23] what am i too new to grok? [06:26] !info caffe-cuda [06:26] Package caffe-cuda does not exist in artful [06:26] StoneCypher: correct packagename? [06:28] caffe-cuda is only in 17.04 onwards, so if you're on 16.04 or something it won't be in there [06:37] anyone know how an executable talks to the terminal? the bash terminal? is there some buffer or stream object that when you send a string to it, you are typing in a shell command? also, i know a process has stout, stderr, and stdin, so the output should go to stdout. [06:49] DevilsDulcimer: might want to try asking in ##linux as well [06:49] DevilsDulcimer: perhaps the #ubuntu-devel guys might also know this [06:49] ok [06:59] Good morning everyone [07:00] DevilsDulcimer: it talks using a tty, which corresponds to /dev/stdin, /dev/stdout, dev/stderr [07:00] You can see the file descriptors in `ls /proc/self/fd` [07:00] thanks for the info, so its like writing to a file, just got to get the correct descriptor then . [07:01] DevilsDulcimer: what are you trying to do? [07:03] just trying to see how linux works...im doing some practice runs with c++ and want to invoke some utilities but through the shell [07:04] OK, google for spawn and pipes then. The child process stdio can be read/written to from C++ using a pipe. [07:08] Guys is there a way to force ubuntu to use "mysql" everytime a script tells it to use "mariadb"? [07:08] I installed mariadb but it only runs if I use it as if it were mysql though it isnt mysq [07:27] hello [07:28] Nooby_One_Nooby: welcome, what can we do for you? [07:29] ubuntu 14.04 here on an HP laptop (pavilion series). Just wondering... if i want to upgrade to the most recent ubuntu, how can i do that, and will that upgrade result in loss of my data (documents, foto's, etc) since i am physically somewhere where i have no access to external drives for backup [07:29] also taking in mind, i'm an absolute noob [07:30] !upgrade [07:30] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [07:30] Summary, you run do-release-upgrade and it gets you to 16.04 while keeping your data [07:32] ok, i'll be reading the links firstly [07:32] thanks [07:36] Nooby_One_Nooby: also this, for the graphical approach: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-upgrading-ubuntu-desktop#0 [07:40] ok, the second link from ubottu and your link, alkisg are not loading ... screen stays blank (apart from browser - Firefox) [07:41] Nooby_One_Nooby: that's strange, it works fine with firefox here [07:41] If you have another browser like chromium-browser, try with that one [07:42] i tried reloading a few times, but stays the same ... even doesn't show a message that connection is interrupted, or something like that... just blank [07:44] when i open chromium, that program keeps crashing on startup [07:45] Eh, sounds like a broken installation? [07:45] Maybe you want to *install* 16.04 while keeping your data, instead of upgrading? [07:45] The 16.04 installer does support that [07:46] what's the difference between upgrading and installing? And yes, i have a few broken things on my 14.04. I don't mind loosing the installed programs, only concern is my data [07:47] actually, i would rather have a "clean" ubuntu to start over with again [08:08] Nooby_One_Nooby: you'll need some means to back up your data. What data are you talking about? Videos, pictures and songs? Or do you mean settings for applications? [08:10] videos, music and books and files ... however, i have no access to external physical drives at the moment. Setting sfor applications, i really don't mind, as i would prefer to start from scratch in the new ubuntu because of many issues i have [08:11] Nooby_One_Nooby: in that case one thing you could do is create a new partition and move your files there. the only problem you have then is sufficient space [08:13] i'm ubuntu 14.04, dual boot. Is there a way to put those files in my windows partition, without creating a third partition? [08:13] Nooby_One_Nooby: yes, you'll just need to mount the partition first [08:15] is it possible that that has happened automatic, since there is a 380gb drive visible on ubuntu ... i never thought of copying files from one part onto the other [08:16] Nooby_One_Nooby: yeah, your file manager usually has a list of drives on the left that you can click to mount them [08:22] while i'm transferring the files, i want to uninstall and remove all traces of some programs in the terminal, what's the best way to approach that? [08:24] because various links give various anwsers, and also what if the name in the terminal is different that the name showing in the applications list? [08:24] Nooby_One_Nooby: is there much point in doing that if you are going to fresh install anyway? [08:25] ah, so the install will already remove all programs? [08:25] Nooby_One_Nooby: installing afresh will format the partition. nothing will be there. you'll be starting from a blank slate [08:27] so that's why i needed to backup my files. You're guiding me through a complete install. Or somehow, if all goes well, those files will be intact and i just did the backup as a precaution? [08:28] Nooby_One_Nooby: backing up the files is necessary because of formatting the partition for the fresh install [08:28] ok [08:29] Nooby_One_Nooby: what i prefer to do is keep a separate storage partition for my files. that way every time i fresh install a new release of ubuntu i don't have to back up anything [08:29] i see [08:30] normally, the important files, i put on an external drive. But i'm not at home, so i don't have access to them. [08:37] Nooby_One_Nooby: fresh install CAN keep your files intact if you choose it in the menu [08:37] Nooby_One_Nooby: if in doubt, select "try ubuntu before installing" from the live cd/usb, and come here for guidance in the installer menus [08:39] when you say menu, what menu do you refer to? [08:40] Nooby_One_Nooby: the installer, e.g. https://zdnet2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2015/10/22/dd65739d-f393-40ff-a65c-25f6e6325bac/resize/770xauto/9308c67b2dbd4fce481228f62ac73cab/partitions.png [08:40] If at that point you select "custom" and you select "ext4 without formatting", then it keeps your /home while reinstalling the programs [08:40] Nooby_One_Nooby: you mentioned you had some issues with 14.04 and would rather have a clean 16.04 install. if you choose to go with the method of keeping files from 14.04 during your install then you'll be keeping all the cruft that has built up and most likely passing the issues onto your new install [08:41] auronandace: that's not true [08:41] You probably don't know it either, but ubiquity, the installer, can keep /home while reinstalling /usr etc [08:41] So it's a completely clean installation, that doesn't require a backup [08:42] Nooby_One_Nooby: a tutorial: https://askubuntu.com/questions/630966/keep-home-directory-when-installing-ubuntu-14-04 [08:43] alkisg: doesn't it still keep all your installed programs? does it remove PPAs? [08:43] auronandace: it's a completely clean installation, it doesn't keep programs or ppas [08:43] The only difference from formatting, is that it keeps /home [08:45] alkisg: sorry, i didn't know that, thanks for the information [08:45] np [08:48] alkisg: if he is having issues with any application setting in /home would the best thing to do is move/delete that .whatever directory for the application in question? that would force it to create a fresh one upon launching the program again, wouldn't it? [08:49] and what about the start-up menu? Will it be upgraded directly, and keeping my windows dual boot ok? I have no means to backup my windows files as well [08:49] auronandace: the settings for applications are stored in .directories that start with a dot. If needed, it's much easier to move those folders aside, and let them be recreated on next login, than messing up with user accounts and transferring data [08:50] Nooby_One_Nooby: yes, the "boot manager menu" is automatically handled [09:07] since i'm taking the time to backup my files, wouldn't it be better to do a complete new install? as i just need to put the files back from windows later on, no? [09:08] It doesn't offer any benefits. But if it feels easier or safer to you, sure, go ahead. [09:11] it's just, i'm readingg the link that you have sent, and i'm not sure i'm be able to handle some steps that are required when keeping the data. It seems easier to just do a complete install [09:12] like my name says "noob" [09:16] Nooby_One_Nooby: what steps are you having problems with? === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [09:22] it's not having problem with (as i did not start yet), it's the uncertainty of my capacity with any step that involves taking action instead of accepting an automated process [09:23] Nooby_One_Nooby: i suppose the less steps the better for you [09:23] you supposed correctly lol [09:24] however, my first bump ... i'm missing about 50gb on my windows partition === sahil-gupta98 is now known as sahil_ === sahil_ is now known as sahil-gupta98 === hellfire-sj is now known as anuj [09:31] test [09:32] Successful :) [09:32] \nick obama [10:03] Hello [10:03] Hi [10:04] Can I ask about DE stuff here or is this channel purely for issues? [10:05] ojeakyun, what sort of DE stuff [10:05] whether Unity DE will still be available after Ubuntu switches to modded Gnome [10:06] currently is stil available [10:08] sudo apt install unity [10:08] ojeakyun: it'll be available in 16.04 for about 3 years [10:08] and after those 3 years? [10:09] ojeakyun: well do you have a time machine? [10:10] will be dropped probably [10:12] Time will have to tell I guess, thanks even though it wasn't really a support issue [10:13] ojeakyun: i meant 16.04 will go end-of-life in 3 years [10:15] I mainly use the Unity DE so I'm worried whether it will be available for versions after 16.04 [10:16] ojeakyun: probably not from ubuntu but there is some smaller project who might keep it alive [10:17] Hopefully [10:18] hellos [10:18] Hi [10:19] Good morning [10:20] How to share files between two users of the same computer with mount --bind ? [10:22] jeremies: put them in a dir both can access, no need for mount --bind [10:23] EriC^^: but then I have to change the permissions on the files and this is somewhat messy [10:24] jeremies: mount --bind doesn't change that [10:25] EriC^^: And bindfs ? [10:26] jeremies: do you only want the second user to have read-only access? [10:27] EriC^^: No, write access too. [10:29] jeremies: i've never used bindfs, seems a little complicated [10:32] jeremies: i guess it could do the job, it does say on the site it makes stuff a little slower though [10:32] EriC^^: thank you, I will try it [10:33] jeremies: no problem [10:36] EriC^^: I don't know, I can do it with traditional file permissions, but then I have to change all the permissions of files inside the folders, and this I don't know if sensible files can get affected [10:36] jeremies: what kind of files are they? [10:38] jeremies: you could always save the permissions of all the files, using 'getfacl' and then 'setfacl' to set them all back the way they were if things dont work out [10:38] EriC^^: They are files inside the home folder, but have a variety of permissions, some are applications, I don't know because I am not the owner of the files [10:38] EriC^^: I don't know if it's a good idea to change the permissions in a massive way. [10:40] jeremies: yeah, definitely, though i think you could get by with adding an extra group to them all [10:40] jeremies: there's a way to keep the group permissions the same. use chmod g+s dir, then put you users in the same user group and set umask 002 for both of your users [10:40] jeremies: i dont know, bindfs is sounding a lot better right now, minus the performance loss issue [10:41] jeremies: files/dirs created under that dir will keep the same group owner [10:41] jeremies: yeah alkisg brings a good point, just add user1 to the main user's group, i bet all the files are rwx for the group anyways [10:42] and the g+s so the groups stay the same when user1 makes something new [10:43] but if some file is only user read and write, then user2 can't read that file, isn't it? [10:43] jeremies: true [10:44] sorry i meant to say akik brings up a good point :) [10:46] how do you set up a vpn on ubuntu WITHOUT custom vpn client software like OpenVPN? [11:19] Eric^^: How to force that all files created on a folder are owned by a particular user and group independently of the user that created it? === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk [11:34] How to share a directory like samba shares but within the same computer between two local users? [11:39] jeremies~ im not sure but... you can make a group for this two users and give permissions for a concrete folder [11:41] jeremies: create a group with your user id name and add users you want to share files with to this group. Of course don't forget change the permissions of the shared folder. [11:43] vimart: but then if a user2 creates a file in my shared folder, then user owner of this file is user2 not me. [11:44] jeremies: if you set g+s the created file will have the same group as the parent dir [11:44] EriC^: yes, but not the same user owner as the parent dir [11:44] jeremies: yeah [11:45] but both users can access the files === DrWatson_ is now known as DrWatson [11:51] Eric^: but if you have a file that has no group permissions then one user can't access the files [11:52] Eric^: how to force that all new created files have the same group and user permissions [11:52] ? [11:52] jeremies: set the dir to g+s [11:53] jeremies: when you set the setgid bit any created dirs or files will be created with the same group as the parent dir [11:59] EriC^: And umask 002 what is it for? [12:01] anyone knows of any good list of API with access-control-allow-origin:* [12:01] i need to be able to search on a term (homework) [12:01] if i want to have multiple private vm's, is ubuntu the way to go for each vm -- not sure if i want virtualbox, kvm, qubes, etc [12:10] bonhoeffer: VMs with desktops for users, or servers? [12:14] alkisg: i would like to have different machines each totally separated for the different work I do [12:14] security is important [12:15] jeremies: it's for newly created files so they have permissions 770 [12:15] jeremies: sorry 775 === iCherry- is now known as iCherry [12:34] EriC^: is it a good idea to chmod -R g+rws /home/shared ? [12:35] alkisg: is it a good idea to chmod -R g+rws /home/shared ? [12:36] jeremies: are you using ltsp-manager? do I remember well? [12:36] yes [12:36] It has internal sharing abilities [12:36] You can create shared folders from its dialog [12:36] It's using bindfs to manage permissions without having the owners etc issues [12:37] alkisg: but it's in another computer the issue [12:37] OK; anyway that's the best method I found and implemented for shared folders [12:37] All the others have various issues [12:38] alkisg: bindfs do you mean? [12:38] !bindfs [12:38] !info bindfs [12:38] bindfs (source: bindfs): mirrors or overlays a local directory with altered permissions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.13.5-1 (artful), package size 27 kB, installed size 67 kB [12:39] but if you use bindfs then when you umount that directory the permissions are all mixed [12:39] alkisg: it's not a problem? [12:40] No, because the files will be created using the owner and group that you specify in bindfs [12:40] So even if another user creates the file, both the bindfs mount and the underlying dir will have correct permissions [12:40] So the permissions will be constant. Not mixed at all. [12:41] alkisg: I am using this command " sudo bindfs -o perms=0700,mirror-only=user1:user2:user3 /home/shared /home/shared" and the permissions are mixed [12:42] alkisg: what command do you use? [12:45] hi, may i get help to modify a command i found on askubuntu.com? found on this thread https://askubuntu.com/questions/397602/how-do-i-copy-top-x-files-from-a-directory-to-another-using-terminal-command? [12:45] following command #find . -maxdepth 1 -type f | head -1000 | xargs cp -t foo_dir === erry is now known as erryChristmas [12:47] Permission denied!!! [12:47] what i want to modify is that it only copies the first file. changing it to [...] head -1 [...] solves this.. now how could i modify the command to do the fine in all subdirectorys? === Fuchs is now known as Merry-foX-Mas [13:01] Hi folks and Merry Christmas! [13:01] and to you BluesKaj [13:01] Hi MonkeyDust [13:02] is there a way to blacklist UAS in usb_storage on the live cd? [13:02] I have an enclosure that doesn't work properly with UAS enabled and wanted to use the live cd to do a clone [13:03] BluesKaj, asl? :-P [13:04] HyperHorse, we don't do asl [13:04] fuck windows 10 [13:04] pedrocr i'm not familiar with it myself, but found this ... https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2238134 [13:04] and fuck microsoft for making this infernal piece of shit [13:05] HyperHorse mind your language [13:05] HyperHorse,, wtach the laguage [13:05] oops [13:05] MonkeyDust: those are for when you have a writeable system [13:05] wtf is this, a church? [13:05] !coc | HyperHorse [13:05] HyperHorse: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv [13:05] MonkeyDust: they problem with the live image is that you can't edit it and can't reload usb_storage because it's used for the pen drive I'm booting from [13:06] going to try the 17.10 live image instead in case that kernel has this fixed [13:06] pedrocr: what is uas? [13:06] oh yeah, etiquette [13:06] no, but it's family oriented [13:06] how about releasing a ROM that doesn't have issues with AMD gpu's [13:06] alkisg: usb attached scsi apparently [13:07] pedrocr: so it's a module that you want to specify options for? You can put break=mount in initramfs and do it at that point [13:07] windows 10 is not letting me format a hdd!!!! [13:07] alkisg: on the live cd? [13:07] Yes [13:07] from the grub menu? [13:07] grub or syslinux menu, yes [13:08] What exactly do you want to do? [13:08] Just add it to blacklist.conf? [13:08] alkisg: make sure usb_storage gets loaded with quirks=174c:5136:u [13:08] I can't edit blacklist.conf in the live cd [13:08]