[00:00] <Bashing-om> DrGrov: Well, there are but limited bios' that are affected. read the bug report, see if you may be effected .
[00:00] <DrGrov> Bashing-om: Sure thing, I will test Solus Budgie now and still revert back to Ubuntu 16.04 later if it does not work.
[00:01] <DrGrov> Bashing-om: Luckily writing a ISO on a USB works well :)
[00:02] <Bashing-om> DrGrov: If you think you may be effected, please proceed with caution . Hardware failure has been reported .
[00:03] <akik> DrGrov: can you still change uefi settings? can you still boot off a usb stick? <- those are things that don't work if you were affected
[00:06] <DrGrov> Bashing-om: That was fun, managed to get logged out and back in after having the DVD out for a bit while writing an ISO to the USB thumb drive :)
[00:29] <Batzy> Hey guys I'm trying to install ubuntu server 16 64 bit, I believe I have an NIC which requires proprietary software as when I get to the section that is like "checking ubuntu archive mirror" i get that  i have a bad mirror
[00:29] <Batzy> I also have 100% packet loss when pinging google (but the IP resolves somehow? >:) )
[00:30] <kk4ewt> Batzy,  so check your dns setting
[00:30] <Batzy> how?
[00:31] <kk4ewt> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[00:31] <Batzy> it just says nameserver 192.168.1.1
[00:31] <ubone> so i clicked the + on size in patition / install - it was 1 click off from max/unclickable without format ticked, parted_server has been going on about an hour or two, i quit the install gui, what's going on and can i reboot or something to actually install?
[00:32] <kk4ewt> so do you have control of the routor ?
[00:32] <Batzy> yes
[00:32] <kk4ewt> so what dns does your routor use
[00:33] <Batzy> kk4ewt, I see two DNS servers on my router page, which do i put it?
[00:33] <ubone> it was for a /home partition, thankfully it didn't wipe it
[00:35] <Batzy> kk4ewt, is the idea i want to change the ip for the nameserver in that conf?
[00:37] <Batzy> not really sure what's going on here
[00:38] <Batzy> kk4ewt, that didn't fix it btw
[00:39] <Batzy> 100% packet loss still
[00:40] <Batzy> it's weird because it goes through the network autoconfiguration fine
[00:43] <Batzy> it was odd too because it used to have an ubuntu system on it and the internet worked fine but it could not install or update any software
[00:45] <Batzy> anyone?
[00:46] <Batzy> does anyone have even a guess why networking config would work, my computer is able to resolve google's IP but it can't ping or download from mirror?
[00:48] <akik> Batzy: have you tried reseting your router/modem?
[00:49] <Batzy> akik, you think it has something to do with my router
[00:49] <Batzy> im seriously skeptical
[00:49] <Batzy> akik, as in it's worked fine for other machines, it's just this one specifically
[00:49] <akik> Batzy: google's dns  responds to ping at 8.8.8.8. you don't get a reply from that?
[00:50] <Batzy> no i dont get any replies
[00:50] <Batzy> but the network autoconfig worked and if i type like ping -c 3 www.google.com it can resolve google's IP
[00:51] <akik> Batzy: can you boot the ubuntu live session and test there?
[00:51] <Batzy> sure
[00:52] <Batzy> akik, the ubuntu desktop version has a live thing right?
[00:52] <akik> Batzy: yes
[00:53] <akik> Batzy: i mean the installation iso
[00:56] <Batzy> akik, i have the ubuntu server installation iso in rn
[00:56] <akik> Batzy: rn?
[00:56] <Batzy> right now
[00:57] <akik> Batzy: i don't know if the server iso has the live session
[00:58] <akik> Batzy: did you install from that iso?
[00:58] <Batzy> well i cant
[00:58] <Batzy> it wont download from mirror
[00:58] <akik> Batzy: i me n what you're u ing right now
[00:59] <akik> sorry for the typos
[00:59] <Batzy> im not using anything right now
[00:59] <Batzy> im trying to install right now from the server iso
[01:01] <Batzy> im downloading the desktop iso
[01:02] <akik> Batzy: did you compare the network settings with the other machines?
[01:03] <Batzy> how so
[01:03] <akik> ip/netmask/gw/resolv.conf
[01:04] <Batzy> I guess not
[01:04] <Batzy> but it's the only machine that didn't work through the installation
[01:04] <Batzy> so i guess that's a hitn
[01:04] <Batzy> (and I tried 3 machines)
[01:06] <akik> Batzy: are you connected with ethernet or wireless?
[01:06] <Batzy> ethernet.
[01:07] <akik> Batzy: try changing the cable and reset the router
[01:08] <Batzy> akik, why would resetting the router work though if it worked with the other machines?
[01:08] <akik> Batzy: these are just things that  could help
[01:08] <Batzy> akik, im setting up the desktop usb boot right now so give me a sec
[01:09] <Batzy> ill try that next because im quite skeptical that it will do anything
[01:09] <akik> maybe reconnect the cable that you have now
[01:09] <Batzy> i've done that already
[01:10] <Batzy> I've tried most, if not all, of the obvious things
[01:15] <akik> Batzy: you can also run: traceroute -n 8.8.8.8 to see how far you get. but i doubt not far
[01:15] <Batzy> akik, booting the desktop image now
[01:15] <akik> good
[01:16] <Batzy> akik, is it possible to do a server-like install from the desktop live image?
[01:16] <akik> Batzy: yes. it's just marketing/packaging differences
[01:18] <Batzy> akik, ok so it's saying it's connecting but i cant use the internet lol
[01:18] <Batzy> akik, in ifconfig for example it has an internet ip
[01:19] <Batzy> and it is running and up
[01:19] <akik> Batzy: can you ping your dns server?
[01:19] <Batzy> like the one on my router?
[01:19] <akik> yes
[01:20] <Batzy> akik, no i get packet loss
[01:21] <akik> ok so there's the probable thing you need to resolve
[01:21] <Batzy> how
[01:21] <akik> can you switch your working pc to use that cable?
[01:23] <Batzy> yes
[01:23] <akik> you should test from your working pc if you can ping the dns server
[01:24] <Batzy> akik, yes i can
[01:26] <Batzy> akik, yeah wifi connects and does not work as well
[01:27] <akik> Batzy: did you test connecting the working pc with the cable of the non-working pc?
[01:28] <Batzy> yes
[01:28] <Batzy> akik, let's boot openSUSE for shigs
[01:29] <akik> and it didn't work?
[01:29] <Batzy> the cable is fine
[01:50] <Batzy> well i give up
[01:52] <Batzy> at this point its looking a bit like divine intervention not to have this work
[01:58] <buyaka> hello all, I'm coming across old documentation that references the 'set' command with a  '-g' flag like so : set -g default-terminal "screen-256color"
[01:59] <buyaka> but I'm getting an error message saying thats not a valid flag
[01:59] <jerichowasahoax> buyaka: that seems more like a "set" command for tmux and not your shell
[02:02] <buyaka> ah gotcha.. thanks!
[05:19] <redphantom_> Im on 17.10 - my Internet doesn't connect automatically on startup ever since configuring openvpn to connect via the NetworkManager GUI. I always need to press "Connect" manually and things connect just fine. I have the automatically connect option selected, but still no dice. Any ideas?
[05:40] <cyberspectre> I'm having issues booting from live USB because of my GTX970, which is incompatible with Nouveau. Internet says I need to set kernel flags. How can I do that from live USB? It just goes straight to the error
[05:42] <cyberspectre> I can get to grub command line, can I do it from here?
[05:43] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | cyberspectre
[05:48] <cyberspectre> Bashing-om, how do I do this?
[05:48] <cyberspectre> I found an area in the splash screen of the live usb that says "setparams
[05:48] <cyberspectre> (pressed E)
[05:54] <Bashing-om> cyberspectre: Boot the liveUSB, at the ubuntu splash screen hit any key -> language screen; escape key to accept the default -> boot options screen -> F6 key for boot parameters . Drop down had several presets . one of them is 'nomodeset ' .
[06:03] <cyberspectre> Bashing-om, thank you. Sorry, I should've checked the URL you sent me before asking. I saw it after.
[06:06] <Bashing-om> cyberspectre: :) Help however is what we do .
[06:18] <PepitoLiindo> Hello
[06:43] <cyberspectre> is there any disadvantage to using LVM? I've never used it for any install
[07:03] <geekosopher> is it ok to wish Merry Christmas here?
[07:04] <kbharatht> Hello everyone , Happy Christmas.
[07:05] <kbharatht> How many of you are Active Now.  Just reply anything.
[07:06] <hamsterinacannon> anything
[07:07] <kbharatht> Haha
[07:08] <kbharatht> I have problem with ubuntu user accounts. Every account now acts has guest
[07:09] <kbharatht> Messed up sudoers or something
[07:09] <redphantom_> Im on 17.10 - my Internet doesn't connect automatically on startup ever since configuring openvpn to connect via the NetworkManager GUI. I always need to press "Connect" manually and things connect just fine. I have the automatically connect option selected, but still no dice. Any ideas?
[07:10] <kbharatht> Unable to login as standard or administrator
[07:11] <kbharatht> @redphantom_ i am new to ubuntu , i dunno
[07:14] <kbharatht> 1023 user but less ppl are active
[07:14] <redphantom_> meh it'
[07:15] <redphantom_> s christmas
[07:16] <kbharatht> Any pro user
[07:42] <kbharatht> Hello any professionals here, Please i need a your help ASAP.
[07:42] <bazhang> kbharatht, please ask your issue
[07:43] <kbharatht> I have few account opened in ubuntu and all are now restricted to guest access only after rebooting my system. I messed up sudoers or something
[07:43] <epicmetal> Is anyone running 17.10 on a ThinkPad X220 and can confirm that it does NOT break the BIOS?
[07:44] <bazhang> kbharatht, what's the error to lead you to believe 'messed up sudoer'
[07:46] <kbharatht> Because i added my user name in sudo to all users , admin
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> epicmetal: recent articles mention you should avoid it
[07:47] <kbharatht> Also there is a file which shows root:root 1000.1000. like that i have changed values to my user id
[07:48] <epicmetal> lotuspsychje: but it only breaks certain machines. I'm trying to see if anyone can confirm the X220 is not affected...
[07:48] <kbharatht> In system settings when i click on user accounts it automatically closes
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> epicmetal: i wouldnt take the risk until they certain the bug is solved
[07:49] <epicmetal> lotuspsychje: i.e. it's not on the "affected" list, and presumably someone has tried it because X220 is a popular machine
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> epicmetal: you follow the bug page?
[07:49] <kbharatht> How do i get back to standard or administrator account
[07:49] <epicmetal> lotuspsychje: I'm looking at it right now
[07:49] <ducasse> epicmetal: that issue should be fixed on images available now and packages in the repos
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: tnx 4 confirm
[07:50] <kbharatht> @bhzhang r u there ?
[07:50] <epicmetal> ducasse: so this imag has the fix? http://releases.ubuntu.com/17.10/ubuntu-17.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[07:50] <epicmetal> i.e. the official torrent
[07:51] <kbharatht> @epicmetal can you help me , please ?
[07:52] <ducasse> epicmetal: it absolutely should
[07:52] <kbharatht> Any professionals plz
[07:53] <bazhang> kbharatht, why did you make those changes
[07:53] <kbharatht> To give roor privilege
[07:53] <epicmetal> ducasse: thank you
[07:53] <kbharatht> Root
[07:53] <bazhang> kbharatht, please dont ask for professionals here, it's volunteer and be patient
[07:54] <kbharatht> Ok
[07:54] <bazhang> kbharatht, where did you read thats how to get root on ubuntu
[07:54] <kbharatht> Just thought
[07:55] <kbharatht> Its the permission file
[07:55] <bazhang> kbharatht, use sudo for that, leave root alone
[07:55] <kbharatht> Ok now i do get back to  standard account
[07:56] <redphantom_> Im on 17.10 - my Internet doesn't connect automatically on startup ever since configuring openvpn to connect via the NetworkManager GUI. I always need to press "Connect" manually and things connect just fine. I have the automatically connect option selected, but still no dice. Any ideas?
[07:56] <bazhang> how recent an install is this kbharatht
[07:56] <kbharatht> So you OS
[07:56] <kbharatht> Do you mean OS
[07:57] <bazhang> kbharatht, how recent is this Ubuntu OS install, yes
[07:57] <kbharatht> Few months back
[07:57] <bazhang> kbharatht, so you have full and complete backups of everything
[07:57] <kbharatht> I have data which is not backedup
[07:58] <bazhang> kbharatht, how crucial is that data for you
[07:58] <kbharatht> I able to login as guest for my user accounts and i can use sudo
[07:59] <bazhang> kbharatht, you can use sudo for everything, why not back it all up right now
[08:00] <kbharatht> I can't it cost me around 300$
[08:01] <kbharatht> It was setup by apache and nagios
[08:01] <kbharatht> I have to call back the technician if i lost the data
[08:02] <kbharatht> If it was backup and format and new os i would have done it already
[08:03] <auronandace> if you knew that then why did you go around messing with /etc/sudoers ?
[08:05] <kbharatht> For root type permission access
[08:05] <auronandace> and what was wrong with using sudo so that you had to messs around with /etc/sudoers ?
[08:07] <kbharatht> So that i can prevent using sudo and doing thing with write access instead of read only access
[08:07] <kbharatht> Directly
[08:07] <auronandace> why did you want to prevent using sudo?
[08:08] <kbharatht> I have direct permission i can do things straight
[08:08] <auronandace> that is a security risk
[08:08] <kbharatht> So i  messed sudo and other  files by googling everything
[08:09] <kbharatht> Now what is the solution ?
[08:09] <auronandace> you can try to restore /etc/sudoers back to the way it was
[08:10] <kbharatht> Ok its not the sudo thing.
[08:10] <kbharatht> Give me a minute i miss understood it
[08:17] <auronandace> kbharatht: if you've changed permissions on files all over the system then short of a reinstall there is very little you can do to fix it
[08:19] <auronandace> if you've just edited some lines in /etc/sudoers then it might be fixable by restoring it
[08:19] <crazymido> hello guys
[08:20] <crazymido> any one can help me
[08:21] <bazhang> crazymido, please ask your issue first
[08:21] <EriC^^> !ask | crazymido
[08:22] <redphantom_> Im on 17.10 - my Internet doesn't connect automatically on startup ever since configuring openvpn to connect via the NetworkManager GUI. I always need to press "Connect" manually and things connect just fine. I have the automatically connect option selected, but still no dice. Any ideas?
[08:23] <EriC^^> redphantom_: go to edit connections > click on it > edit then go to general > always connect when available
[08:23] <crazymido> i am beginner in linux and i just installed ubuntu 17.10 on my HP Pavilion g6 laptop. i am trying to install AMD Radeon 7600m graphic card driver but i didn't find any solution for it over net. any help with that? thanks
[08:23] <redphantom_> EriC^^: this has already been checked
[08:24] <EriC^^> redphantom_: oh maybe it's a openvpn option somewhere
[08:25] <redphantom_> It connects when I manually press Connect on the wired connection but never automatically. idk
[08:32] <sdfgsdf> hi, how can I virtualise arm64, such as android
[08:32] <sdfgsdf> on ubuntu
[08:32] <sdfgsdf> host
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> crazymido: sudo lshw -C video should show your chipset + driver can you check?
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> sdfgsdf: try #ubuntu-arm mate
[08:35] <auronandace> lotuspsychje: i think he wants an arm64 emulator, not running ubuntu on arm
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> oh
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> sdfgsdf: is this what you need? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM64/QEMU
[08:42] <crazymido> how to install amd radeon hd 7600m graphic card driver on ubuntu 17.10?
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> crazymido: sudo lshw -C video shows your chipset+ driver, can you check?
[08:45] <crazymido> i will be back in 10 minutes and give you details lotuspsychje
[08:47] <mattcode> how can i mark a package as fully installed/configured? mysql-server always gets errors during an apt upgrade because i configured it manually instead of using dpkg --configure
[08:48] <Cueball> I have MPD installed on a fresh install of Ubuntu but it can't control the volume. Do I need to add any groups to the user for it to work or is it a config I need to alter?
[08:51] <bazhang> Cueball, mpd similar to kodi?
[08:51] <Cueball> bazhang: Music Player Daemon.
[08:52] <bazhang> Cueball, for sharing among devices?
[08:52] <Cueball> I installed it on to a Debian box years ago and everything worked out of the box.
[08:52] <Cueball> bazhang: It can share but it's a media player first and plays locally or streams. In my case I play it to local sound device.
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> Cueball: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPD
[08:55] <ducasse> Cueball: which client are you using?
[08:56] <Cueball> ducasse: Multiple. Using two on Android and using ncmpcpp
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | mattcode did you install this way?
[08:58] <ducasse> Cueball: and none of them will manage the volume? which release is this?
[08:58] <epicmetal> Cueball: arch wiki has the answer, it's something to do with the configured sound output
[08:58] <epicmetal> Cueball: software volume or something
[08:59] <Cueball> Just sorted it. Needed to select mixer in config. Thanks to lotuspsychje for the link :)
[08:59] <epicmetal> Cueball: add mixer_type "software" line to your audio_output { } clause
[09:01] <Cueball> Yay. Volume control from my phone now.Well techncally I had control from my phone before via ssh/aslamixer. But now control from native phone app.
[09:01] <Cueball> Merry Christmas Everyone :)
[09:13] <HoloIRCUser1> Hello again
[09:14] <HoloIRCUser1> I have messed up etc/passwd file how to repair it
[09:15] <HoloIRCUser1> I am now restricted with guest permission in my user account
[09:15] <HoloIRCUser1> Any volunteers ?
[09:16] <crazymido> what is the code i can use to get shipset+driver details pf my graphic card
[09:16] <bunnypun_> HoloIRCUser1 by messed what do you mean?  deleted file, typo?
[09:18] <HoloIRCUser1> No added a few lines  after my username
[09:19] <HoloIRCUser1> What is my problem is at the login screen i have 3 users ctel, kingwines, king
[09:19] <HoloIRCUser1> And additional guest account
[09:19] <HoloIRCUser1> When i login to above user accounts except guest all my permission are shown as guest
[09:20] <HoloIRCUser1> Right top corner setting icons shows logged in as guest even tho i logged in as administrator
[09:21] <HoloIRCUser1> How do i gain access to original account s
[09:21] <HoloIRCUser1> Now i am at grub terminal command
[09:21] <HoloIRCUser1> Any suggestions plz
[09:23] <HoloIRCUser1> :bunnypun
[09:23] <bunnypun_> boot to single user mode , remount root parition read / write , correct file , reboot are the general steps
[09:23] <HoloIRCUser1> I am a newbie  need step by step instructions
[09:25] <HoloIRCUser1> In etc/passwd file ctel:x:0:0:ctel:/home/ctel:/bin/bash
[09:25] <HoloIRCUser1> What does that mean
[09:25] <HoloIRCUser1> Where ctel is my user name
[09:26] <HoloIRCUser1> I changed 1001:1001 to 0:0
[09:26] <bunnypun_> unfortunately I'm working on something atm and am not able to provide detailed steps
[09:26] <HoloIRCUser1> At least commands
[09:27] <bunnypun_> those are the uid / pid fields
[09:28] <crazymido> HoloIRCUser1: you can find an answer to your question in this link
[09:28] <crazymido> https://askubuntu.com/questions/411514/how-to-recover-a-deleted-etc-passwd-file
[09:34] <HoloIRCUser1> Login screen show blank now, ctrl alt f1, f2 works
[09:38] <HoloIRCUser1> Any suggestions
[09:39] <bunnypun_> at the grub menu boot to recover mode
[09:39] <bunnypun_> you won't get a login screen
[09:39] <bunnypun_> did you follow the steps
[10:59] <epicmeta1> ducasse: I don't think the official 17.10 torrent has the Intel SPI fix given that the SHA256SUM of the torrent matches the one published by DistroWatch back in October...
[11:00] <epicmeta1> https://www.distrowatch.com/weekly.php?pollnumber=124&myaction=NewVote&issue=20171023
[11:08] <bipul> Hello, i just wants to know that by default when we install Ubuntu  from .iso image. At that time openssh client is being installed?
[11:09] <geirha> openssh-client is installed by default, yes
[11:10] <bipul> At the time of Ubuntu installation right? geirha
[11:10] <bipul> geirha, Thank you.
[11:10] <geirha> it is also installed in the live session, if that's what you mean
[11:10] <bipul> Yes.
[12:09] <DrGrov> Hi, how can I get KDE on 16.04?
[12:11] <DrGrov> Is it kubuntu-desktop that I should install?
[12:12] <EriC^^> DrGrov: i think all you want it "sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop" maybe someone can confirm
[12:12] <savastano> hello
[12:13] <EriC^^> DrGrov: unless you're on a DE-less install, then kubuntu-desktop would be the way to go
[12:13] <DrGrov> EriC^^: I am on default 16.04
[12:13] <EriC^^> DrGrov: try sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop
[12:13] <DrGrov> EriC^^: So no need for all the QT apps, the GTK are sufficient?
[12:13] <savastano> backintime as root is good for full restoration in case i will need to fresh install?
[12:14] <EriC^^> DrGrov: no it'll install everything qt, just that it wont install some other stuff that might conflict with other desktop packages (like the desktop manager and stuff like that)
[12:14] <DrGrov> EriC^^: Ok, that sounds good. Just need to reconfigure the whole thing then but that is a easy step.
[12:19] <DrGrov> EriC^^: Brb hopefully
[12:20] <savastano>  backintime as root is good for full restoration in case i will need to fresh install?
[12:27] <bipul> Hello, when i am trying to remove only this package "openssh-client", I am able to see ncurses-term package is removed.
[12:29] <bipul> Which has openssh-server,openssh-sftp and ssh-import-id.
[12:39] <tsarompy> what about it bipul
[12:45] <savastano>  backintime as root is good for full restoration in case i will need to fresh install?
[12:45] <DrGrov> Got KDE running but it seems off in the DE sections. Does not look like QT, can I somehow get QT installed now afterwards on 16.04?
[12:47] <brainwash> DrGrov: what do you mean? KDE heavily depends on Qt, and won't run without it at all
[12:47] <brainwash> you want to change the theme?
[12:48] <DrGrov> I mean it looks like GTK all over but no QT interface. Everything looks like GTK.
[12:48] <brainwash> can you share a screenshot?
[12:48] <DrGrov> Icons from the System Settings are missing
[12:49] <brainwash> maybe you want to install the package "kubuntu-desktop"
[12:50] <DrGrov> brainwash: Yes, probably that is what I should do.
[12:50] <DrGrov> Have had Unity on 16.04 but it did not suit my needs.
[12:50] <Nooby_One_Nooby> hello everyone
[12:50] <DrGrov> So I can just get kubuntu-desktop on top of plasma-desktop?
[12:50] <brainwash> I'd think so
[12:52] <Nooby_One_Nooby> HP laptop, ubuntu 14.04 ... want to upgrade to ubuntu 16.04 ... HOWEVER... my ubuntu 14 has many issues and crashes with an array pf programs, so i opted for a clean install. Here's the problem bith my DVD reader/writer and bootable USB stick weren't read (after changing) the order in BIOS
[12:52] <Nooby_One_Nooby> So, i think only choice left is upgrade. So, how can i upgrade and have none of the errors in my new version?
[12:53] <brainwash> did you confirm that the USB stick is bootable with a different PC?
[12:53] <Nooby_One_Nooby> i have no other pc at hand, i used the ubuntu iso image from the ubuntu site, and used bootdisk creator in my version
[12:54] <DrGrov> Brb
[12:54] <tsarompy> Nooby_One_Nooby: do you have a choice between UEFI and CSM in your bios
[12:55] <tsarompy> i would use the mini.iso of artful aardvark and write it to usb (its like 50mb) and boot from that and just install what you want from there
[12:55] <tsarompy> i couldnt boot from usb when my bios was set to UEFI. use CSM
[12:55] <Nooby_One_Nooby> i don't recall seeing those options ... what are they? I had choice between internal HD, internal DVD, DVD connected by usb, usb
[12:56] <tsarompy> check in the system configuration options
[12:56] <tsarompy> did you use dd to write the usb drive?
[12:56] <Nooby_One_Nooby> dd?
[12:57] <Nooby_One_Nooby> i used startup disk creator in ubuntu 14
[12:57] <tsarompy> i see
[12:57] <tsarompy> are you on 32 bit or 64 bit
[12:57] <Nooby_One_Nooby> 64
[12:57] <DrGrov> The kubuntu-desktop on 16.04 does break dependencies
[12:57] <tsarompy> do you have a separate /home/ partition Nooby_One_Nooby?
[12:57] <tsarompy> or do you care about losing any info on your HD
[12:57] <bipul> tsarompy, Sorry i don't get you?  I am just trying to distinguish between this two packages openssh-client and openssh-server, And how and when it works.
[12:58] <tsarompy> lol
[12:58] <tsarompy> well one is a client, one is a server
[12:58] <brainwash> DrGrov: can you share the error message?
[12:58] <DrGrov> Sure can
[12:58] <Nooby_One_Nooby> i have made a backup of all my personal files (copied them onto the windows partition), so i don't care for the applications on my ubuntu partition
[12:58] <bipul> Yes, without the client i can't ssh to any openssh-server i.e shhd
[12:58] <tsarompy> ah ok i see
[12:59] <tsarompy> are you in ubuntu right now Nooby_One_Nooby?
[12:59] <Nooby_One_Nooby> yes, i am in ubuntu
[12:59] <tsarompy> okay
[12:59] <tsarompy> heres the mini.iso netinstall image for ubuntu artful
[12:59] <bipul> sshd*
[12:59] <tsarompy> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/artful/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[12:59] <akik> ubuntu doesn't test for installing multiple desktop environments. they are not contained and share settings
[12:59] <tsarompy> i think its about 53 MB
[12:59] <tsarompy> download that
[13:00] <Nooby_One_Nooby> downloading
[13:00] <tsarompy> Nooby_One_Nooby: insert your usb drive, wait a second, and type dmesg | tail
[13:00] <DrGrov> Can not get a screenshot
[13:00] <Nooby_One_Nooby> but what will that do?
[13:00] <tsarompy> were going to make you a bootable usb drive
[13:00] <DrGrov> It is about kde-config-telepahty-accounts package and kaccounts-providers
[13:00] <Nooby_One_Nooby> i am really a noob, so if i have to restart and mess with some things, i fear that i will be lost. That's why i really wanted the original ubuntu 16 file to work
[13:01] <tsarompy> artful works great. im on it :)
[13:01] <DrGrov> No wirries
[13:01] <DrGrov> I will just reinstall Kubuntu 16.04 directly
[13:01] <DrGrov> Rewrite an ISO and get it done
[13:01] <tsarompy> if you dont care about files on your ubuntu partition its easier to fresh install a new version than reinstall then upgrade
[13:03] <DrGrov> Is 17.04 a safe bet?
[13:03] <DrGrov> Or is it better to stick with 16.04.3
[13:04] <brainwash> 17.04 won't be supported for much longer
[13:05] <brainwash> 18.04 is the next LTS release
[13:06] <DrGrov> Ok, 16.04 it is
[13:06] <DrGrov> Reinstalling
[13:06] <DrGrov> Brb
[13:09] <bipul> tsarompy, Will you please tell me to understand here. When i am installing opessh-server then follwoing additional packages are
[13:09] <bipul>  being installed like ncurses-term, openssh-client,openssh-sftp-server and ssh-import-id also  few suggested packages like ssh-askpass
[13:09] <bipul>  libpam-ssh
[13:12] <choki> bipul: they are dependencies
[13:15] <bipul> choki, So i could say it's work of packaging? If i install openssh-server the following additional packages will be installed?
[13:15] <choki> bipul: yes you need these additional packages. it is like if you go to school, you also need a teacher, a house, other people. you can not go to school without a teacher :D
[13:16] <bipul> yes.
[13:16] <choki> bipul: packages work together. it is called the "unix philosophy"
[13:16] <bipul> choki, If i have to learn and know about it? where to look for?
[13:18] <BluesKaj> Merry Christmas to all
[13:19] <bipul> Merry Christmas to all.
[13:19] <espacito> merry x-mas to all
[13:19] <espacito> also
[13:20] <butt3rF7y>  /part
[13:20] <tsarompy> mer crimbus
[13:21] <tsarompy> is that a kcaj i see
[13:28] <Baltazar> JESUS IS BACK TO SAVE US! WEEEEH :D
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> back? he never really existed?
[13:35] <Dao67> Hey folks, Anyone know the best place to read up on troubleshooting debian mail issues?
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> Dao67  are you using debian or ubuntu?
[13:36] <Dao67> Deb via ssh
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> Dao67  then better ask in the #debian channel
[13:36] <Dao67> Thanks, never used irc :)
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> yw
[14:03] <sudhirkhanger_> Is it not safe to install Kubuntu 17.10 on Dell systems due of BIOS crash thing going on?
[14:04] <leftyfb> sudhirkhanger_: where did you see that?
[14:04] <Cobrax> DELL?
[14:04] <Cobrax> Isn't it just a Lenovo issue?
[14:04] <leftyfb> it is
[14:04] <espacito> lunch time
[14:06] <sudhirkhanger_> Cobrax: Yes, I see mention of Lenovo and Acer. Some also reported Dell systems (specific ones and not all). I was just confused if it should just be avoided at this point of time.
[14:08] <Tin_man> doesn't cost anything to try the install.
[14:09] <sudhirkhanger_> Tin_man: really? except it might crash my system's BIOS.
[14:10] <Tin_man> a bios can be reflashed .
[14:10] <greatabyss2> Happy to see the direction turn back to gnome as the mainstream working environment.
[14:11] <akik> Tin_man: it's worse than that
[14:11] <Cobrax> why
[14:13] <akik> it wouldn't be this kind of problem if you just could re-flash the bios
[14:13] <akik> or uefi
[14:16] <Cobrax> this is sure going to taint the reputation of linux
[14:17] <sudhirkhanger_> Yes, ISO pullback is a major step in my opinion.
[14:17] <Tin_man> akik, what article are you referring to?
[14:18] <akik> somebody even wrote that it only took a user to boot a live session and trigger the problem
[14:18] <akik> Tin_man: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1734147?comments=all
[14:19] <Cobrax> sunrunner20, what is ISO pullback?
[14:19] <akik> Cobrax: "The download of Ubuntu 17.10 is currently discouraged due to an issue on certain Lenovo laptops. Once fixed this download will be enabled again. "
[14:19] <Cobrax> >discouraged >disabled
[14:20] <Cobrax> you can still torrent it
[14:20] <akik> they haven't disabled the releases.ubuntu.com downloads, though
[14:20] <Cobrax> I'm still seeding it right now
[14:20] <sudhirkhanger_> HTTP Download links has been removed.
[14:20] <akik> releases.ubuntu.com is http
[14:20] <Cobrax> magnet:?xt=urn:btih:40448d478d9203a3919b0900e7fbb9e8748dcdf9&dn=ubuntu-17.10-desktop-amd64.iso&tr=http%3a%2f%2ftorrent.ubuntu.com%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=http%3a%2f%2fipv6.torrent.ubuntu.com%3a6969%2fannounce
[14:21] <Cobrax> that's the magnet link for the torrent
[14:23] <Tin_man> so far it only lists Dell Inspiron 15-3531, and the Insyde Software, I would hope a fix would be coming in the near future.
[14:28] <wonuku> o/
[14:30] <greatabyss2> Never seen pullback before is this in a error message?  A .iso is usually the extension for an os.
[14:38] <epicmetal> How do I enable that "volume over 100%" option in vanilla GNOME on 17.10?
[14:38] <epicmetal> I see it in Ubuntu GNOME but the checkbox is missing from the vanilla GNOME GUI
[14:39] <epicmetal> I'm guessing there's a gsetting
[14:40] <tsarompy> use pavucontrol
[14:41] <tsarompy> or buy better speakers :D
[14:41] <epicmetal> tsarompy: I know how to do it in settings... I want the gnome top bar volume slider to have it
[14:41] <tsarompy> i hate the gain it overdrives the signal
[14:41] <epicmetal> tsarompy: it's a laptop
[14:41] <tsarompy> hm
[14:41] <tsarompy> have you tried checking on the gnome extensions site?
[14:41] <epicmetal> traditionally i just open settings and do it, e.g. on other distros
[14:41] <epicmetal> nope
[14:41] <tsarompy> id try there
[14:41] <tsarompy> you gotta install a plugin for firefox/chrome
[14:41] <epicmetal> yep, already done that
[14:42] <tsarompy> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/858/volume-mixer/
[14:42] <tsarompy> that might be what youre looking for
[14:42] <tsarompy> i dunno im not a gnome user
[14:43] <epicmetal> i'm having a look on a test account to see which $HOME file gets modified
[14:44] <epicmetal> tsarompy: that errors on install. but give me a sec to see which file it might bve
[14:44] <epicmetal> be*
[14:46] <epicmetal> it seems to happen in ~/.config/dconf/user
[14:47] <epicmetal>  /com/ubuntu/sound/allow-amplified-volume
[14:48] <epicmetal> sadly, this has no effect in vanilla gnome
[14:49] <epicmetal> ubuntu must override/fork that part of gnome-shell i guess
[14:49] <epicmetal> :\
[14:49] <epicmetal> if any ubuntu dev is reading this, please push upstream :)
[14:58] <mustafa> Since upgrading to Ubuntu 17.10 and the Nvidia property drivers, along with the switcher for my Dual Graphics laptop stopped working, any ideas?
[15:00] <mustafa> Is IRC dead?
[15:01] <pavlushka> mustafa: nope
[15:01] <pavlushka> mustafa: It's just Christmas you know :)
[15:02] <mustafa> pavlushka: :D Merry Christmas!
[15:02] <pavlushka> mustafa: you too :)
[15:03] <mustafa> pavlushka: Thanks :)
[15:08] <tonyt> Merry Christmas Everyone
[15:16] <TJ-> do we have a way to persuade systemd, during early boot, to re-read (rather than use a cached 'generator' copy) /etc/fstab, when it drops to the emergency shell?
[15:18] <leftyfb> TJ-: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1515377#p1515377
[15:19] <TJ-> leftyfb: thanks! I've already done a reboot since it was easier and I couldn't remember how it's done. Had a "rq" instead of "rw" in an fstab entry of a server I rarely boot. Thank goodness for network KVM!
[16:35] <acresearch> people, what is a good screen recorder that works with ubuntu 17.10?
[16:38] <Leevancleef> acresearch, OBS
[16:42] <pennTeller> Hi guys does anybody know a way to set the WiFi ssid and password using a web interface? Kinda like with the arduino yun.
[16:43] <akik> pennTeller: you want to load a web page before connecting to your wifi?
[16:44] <akik> like on a localhost address?
[16:45] <pennTeller> akik: so I setup my raspberry pi to become a hotspot whenever there is not a known WiFi around. Then I connect to my pi in adhoc mode and would like to go to some page like mypi.local and give it the right ssid and password and then reboot it so it connects
[16:47] <akik> pennTeller: ok i don't know about that. can't you always have the raspi hotspot active?
[16:48] <pennTeller> akik: yes but I want the raspberry pi to connect to my WiFi once. I give it the right credentials. I just don’t want to use a monitor or ssh
[16:48] <TJ-> pennTeller: wouldn't it be easier to ssh to mypi and do "nmcli dev wifi con "Cafe Hotspot 1" password caffeine name "My cafe" "
[16:50] <pennTeller> TJ-: though that would work I would prefer to avoid ssh since this will be used by a non technical person
[16:51] <TJ-> pennTeller: script it? so the local PC asks for the details and then does ssh automatically (using certificate) "ssh user@mypi nmcli dev wifi con "Cafe Hotspot 1" password caffeine name "My cafe" " ?
[16:52] <TJ-> pennTeller: otherwise you need to configure a web-server (CGI application) on mypi that receives the data and issues the same nmcli ... command
[16:52] <pennTeller> TJ-: thanks, I found this which seems to be what I’m looking for https://github.com/billz/raspap-webgui
[16:56] <TJ-> pennTeller: looks good, but mostly targeted at running the RasPi as an AP itself, rather than connecting to another AP, although it does hint that may be possible
[16:57] <pennTeller> TJ-: yeah, the arduino yun comes with this behavior by default but I don’t know how they did it. It runs openwrt though so it could b default functionality
[16:58] <TJ-> yes, openwrt would provide that.
[17:22] <pennTeller> Hi guys I have a weird problem... I have apache installed and an index file in /var/www but when I try to access it from a browser it says 404 not found...
[17:22] <pennTeller> even as local host!
[17:23] <TJ-> pennTeller: shouldn't it be in /var/www/html/ ?
[17:23] <pennTeller> TJ-, not in the version of linux im running
[17:24] <TJ-> what release is it?
[17:24] <pennTeller> Linux 4.4.38
[17:26] <pennTeller> TJ-, you are right, that is the problem..
[17:26] <pennTeller> weird
[17:26] <TJ-> pennTeller: That's the kernel; I'm on about the apache2 package
[17:26] <pennTeller> TJ-, you were right anyway, thank you
[17:26] <pennTeller> :)
[17:27] <TJ-> pennTeller: Ubuntu changes the DOCUMENT_LOCATION to that
[17:27] <pennTeller> TJ-, this is Raspbian but I suppose it also does it, even though the apaceh conf file shows /var/www only
[17:33] <TJ-> pennTeller: it's from Debian, so common root
[17:34] <pennTeller> TJ-, thanks for all your help today m an, I got the web itnerface running and life is awesome
[17:36] <lavinho> good afternoon
[17:36] <lavinho> how to creste server iptv ubuntu ?
[17:37] <leftyfb> pennTeller: future reference, use #raspberrypi or #rasbian for help with that distro.
[17:39] <pennTeller> leftyfb, will do thanks
[18:19] <pennTeller> Guys is there a reason why RX packets  dont show in ifconfig anymore?
[18:25] <sudhirkhanger_> I want to install Nvidia Prime on my system. It seems like nvidia-384 is available in the restricted. It will also install nvidia-prime and nvidia-settings. It seems like that's all I have to do to install nvidia. No need of graphics-drivers ppa. Am I correct?
[18:28] <TJ-> sudhirkhanger_: You can also use "ubuntu-drivers list" and "ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" to install such
[18:36] <sudhirkhanger_> TJ-: "ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" what does this do? Install all recommended drivers?
[18:38] <TJ-> sudhirkhanger_: correct
[18:38] <TJ-> sudhirkhanger_: 'drivers' being proprietary drivers such as nvidia, or intel microcode updates
[18:39] <sudhirkhanger_> Cool
[18:40] <sudhirkhanger_> There is some flickering issue in firefox when using nvidia-387. Not sure why.
[19:04] <Richard_Cavell> Hi. What version of gcc is in 17.10?  And is it known what version will be in 18.04?
[19:05] <adder> gcc (Ubuntu 7.2.0-8ubuntu3) 7.2.0
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> !info gcc bionic
[19:34] <nanodrone> what's in.ftpd and why is it running on my system?
[19:38] <ubuntu001> How do I make sure I am not effected by this bug >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1734147 ?
[19:43] <compdoc> ubuntu001, looks like you need to use v4.14
[19:45] <TJ-> ubottu: ensure the latest kernel is installed; remove kernels that still have the module: check with "grep INTEL_SPI_PLATFORM=m /boot/config*"
[19:46] <zaki> "I have installed an app using pip install program, what is the program's binary located in this case
[19:46] <TJ-> ubuntu001: ensure the latest kernel is installed; remove kernels that still have the module: check with "grep INTEL_SPI_PLATFORM=m /boot/config*"
[19:46] <ubuntu001> compdoc, I am using 4.14.0-13-generic ...So I am okay then ?
[19:46] <ubuntu001> TJ-, That command returned nothing
[19:47] <TJ-> ubuntu001: then it looks like the module isn't on your system
[19:48] <ubuntu001> TJ-, Just to be sure have I entered your command correctly ?
[19:48] <ubuntu001>  grep INTEL_SPI_PLATFORM=m /boot/config*
[19:48] <TJ-> ubuntu001: yes
[19:48] <ubuntu001> OKay / Thanks a lot
[19:50] <zaki> hello
[20:02] <bravvve22> i'v installed a mail server according to according to http://www.almost-working.com/how-to-setup-a-mail-server-on-debian-8-jessie-using-postfix-dovecot-and-lmtp/ it does not work at all,i can't get it why it does not work
[20:06] <PTNapivoski> ftp://ptnapivoski.no-ip.biz:2121
[20:08] <someone235> Hi, I want to be able to connect to port 3000 from my local network. What is the easiest way to do it?
[20:13] <ikonia> someone235: open up port 3000 on your firewall and make sure something is listening on port 3000
[20:14] <oerheks> bravvve22, maybe 'almost-working' is what it says..
[20:16] <oerheks> sudo ufw allow 3000/tcp && sudo ufw enable
[20:27] <bravvve22> i'v installed a mail server according to according to http://www.almost-working.com/how-to-setup-a-mail-server-on-debian-8-jessie-using-postfix-dovecot-and-lmtp/ it does not work at all,i can't get it why it does not work
[20:28] <multifractal> 16.04 here - My laptop (Dell 9635) drains battery very fast with the lid closed - almost as if it's in use the whole time. Note that I had to do a lot of BIOS fiddling to ubuntu installer to detect hte hard drive, to stop crashes on suspend/resume, so I guess some setting could have caused it.
[20:28] <someone235> oerheks, ufw is not installed
[20:29] <oerheks> someone235, then you don't run ubuntu
[20:29] <oerheks> !info ufw
[20:30] <someone235> oerheks, I fucked my system a little by reinstalling python
[20:30] <someone235> oerheks, so I need to reinstall few things
[20:31] <someone235> oerheks, port 3000 works when using my local network IP from my machine, but it doesn't work when I use the same URL from my phone. Does it make sense?
[20:32] <oerheks> that could be a cause too, make sure all is reinstalled: dpkg --configure -a
[20:33] <oerheks> if you think you wrecked your install, fix it first, then test. finding out what is wrong is useless this way
[20:36] <someone235> oerheks, my installation is pretty OK, but I did apt-get autoremove after uninstalling python, so even after reinstalling broken dependencies, I don't have some of the packages that are usually comes with any ubuntu installation
[20:36] <someone235> oerheks, but it was about a month ago, and I don't have any problems
[20:36] <oerheks> python is important, so no wonder things don't work as they would.
[20:37] <oerheks> reinstall the -desktop package perhaps?
[20:42] <TJ-> someone235: what IP address are you using to access port 3000 from the same PC? 127.0.0.1/localhost ?
[20:43] <someone235_> TJ-, http://172.17.0.1:3000/
[20:44] <TJ-> someone235_: and does your phone, or your gatewat router, know that 172.17.0.0/16 is a local sub-net?
[20:44] <jer> is there any way i can get photos/videos off an iphone using ubutnu 17.10 or 17.04 when shotwell or ifuse don't work ? iphone is running latest ios
[20:44] <TJ-> someone235_: if they don't they'll use the defalt route, which will send the packets out to the Internet
[20:44] <jer> google gives me a ton of outdated info
[20:46] <TJ-> someone235_:  sounds like your best solution would be to add a static route to the gateway, for the LAN-side, of 172.17.0.0/16 so it routes correctly
[20:47] <someone235_> TJ-, I got the address from my router. I thought the router is aware of it, because it created it.
[20:50] <TJ-> someone235_: your router is already using 172.17.0.0/16  as it's default sub-net ?
[20:52] <someone235_> TJ-, I'm pretty sure it does
[20:53] <TJ-> someone235_: sorry, 172.17.0.0/24 actually (think the xmas alcohol has got to me!)  ... in which case all devices on your LAN have 172.17.0.x addresses ?
[20:55] <someone235_> TJ-, oh, I see that my other computer uses 192.168.* format
[20:55] <someone235_> TJ-, pretty weird
[20:55] <Schlawiner> is there a ircop available? there is a spammer in an other room
[20:55] <someone235_> TJ-, it shouldn't happen if you didn't changed the default config, no?
[20:56] <TJ-> someone235_: check if other devices can ping 172.17.0.1 ... if so, then it looks like a firewall issue. Therefore do "sudo iptables -vnL" and check the default policy for the INPUT chain is "ACCEPT" and there are no DROP rules for port 3000, *or* if the policy is DROP, that a rule to ACCEPT port 3000 is in place
[20:56] <TJ-> Schlawiner: try #freenode
[20:56] <Schlawiner> thanks
[20:56] <someone235_> TJ-, I found the problem
[20:57] <someone235_> someone235_, I checked the wrong connection
[20:57] <TJ-> Schlawiner: is it ' m4g0t932' ?
[20:57] <TJ-> someone235_: oops!
[20:57] <Schlawiner> no it is pegas73
[20:57] <someone235_> TJ-, apparently it was associated with something called "docker0"
[20:57] <someone235_> not sure what is it actually
[20:57] <TJ-> Schlawiner: ahhh - the one I mentioned was spamming ##kernel just a moment ago
[20:58] <someone235_> TJ-, thanks for your help!
[20:58] <TJ-> someone235_: docker is the container technology, was that an interface just for docker?
[20:58] <someone235_> TJ-, I know what is docker, but I don't remember using it in my computer
[20:59] <someone235_> maybe I did and I forgot about it
[21:00] <Schlawiner> TJ- danke schön for your answer - now the spamer is klined :-)
[21:00] <Schlawiner> danke schön == thank you
[21:00]  * TJ- nods
[21:02] <TJ-> Interesting; hdparm -m 16 ... (16.04) can't set the MaxMultSect count on a Seagate ST8000AS0002 although the tech specs confirm it does support it. Anyone dealt with this model?
[21:05] <TickerTape> how can I tell NetworkManager to stop managing a particular interface?
[21:05] <TickerTape> I don't want to kill it completely I just want it do stop mucking with a particular interface
[21:06] <tsarompy> you need to edit your network manager conf
[21:07] <tsarompy> what interface is it TickerTape
[21:08] <TJ-> TickerTape: "autoconnect=false" in the "[connection]" section of /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/<connection-name>
[21:08] <TJ-> TickerTape: Should also be able to change that using NM applet's connection settings, or via nmtui
[21:09] <tsarompy> or use wicd instead :3
[21:09] <TJ-> a bit of overkill just to flip a bit from true to false
[21:09] <tsarompy> not when you hate nm like i do
[21:10] <skinux> I've something weird going on. There are times when I get DNS failure issues, but no DNS settings are changed between it working and it failing.
[21:10] <unholymachine> i've noticed that if you set up a static ip via editing /etc/network/interfaces network manager stops managing the interface
[21:10] <unholymachine> it's not the proper way
[21:10] <TJ-> skinux: routing? DHCP lease renewal delay? IPv6 losing it's preferred address?
[21:10] <unholymachine> but network manager refuses to manage the interface
[21:11] <TJ-> unholymachine: right, but only if NetworkManager.conf 's "[ifupdown]" section has "managed=false"
[21:11] <TJ-> ^^^^ which is the default
[21:12] <unholymachine> i see
[21:21] <skinux> TJ: DHCP is in use. Otherwise, I don't know. I spoke with my brother a PRO engineer and he said to check configuration. But I don't know what to check. I don't change any config, it should always be the same.
[21:23] <skinux> Umm, I did set wlan0 inet manual so I could tell it to use Adapter instead of internal NIC.
[21:23] <skinux> But, I did that AFTER I was already having issues, the internal NIC died.
[21:24] <TJ-> skinux: what is the system using to manage the network interfaces? ifupdown, NetworkManager, systemd-networkd, wicd ?
[21:24] <skinux> According to the networking course I just finished, DNS server would be our router. I was thinking switching to another public DNS might help?
[21:24] <skinux> Umm, I'm not sure. How do I check on that?
[21:25] <TJ-> skinux: where do you configure the network interfaces?
[21:25] <skinux> I click on the upper-right indicator that usually shows networks and select one to connect to.
[21:26] <skinux> Perhaps I should just do a search on network configuration in ubuntu xenial
[21:26] <TJ-> skinux, I guess that'll be nm-applet, so Network Manager
[21:27] <skinux> Well, still, how come usually my DNS is fine, but sometimes usually in early morning hours, DNS is fracked up?
[21:27] <TJ-> skinux: the bset place to look for clues, when it happens, is in /var/log/syslog (or if you know an exact time when it last happened)
[21:27] <skinux> I know some hours it was happening. Either yesterday morning or morning before that.
[21:27] <TJ-> skinux: is it just DNS - when it happens can the PC still ping an Internet host by IP address ?
[21:29] <skinux> No, ping also does not work. Browser gives DNS error page
[21:30] <ubuntubunny> hello everybody, I hope you're enjoying the festivities :-)
[21:30] <skinux> Something as well, some of the time, my network connection flat out gets disconnected when it happens.
[21:33] <TJ-> skinux: OK, so the problem is NOT DNS, it's network going down, which points to DHCP. When it goes down can the PC ping the router by IP address? if not, the local interface has lost it's IP address OR the interface has dropped (if it's WiFi that probably means something interfered with the radio signal)
[21:33] <ubuntubunny> how do you see the debug information for the "sound settings"? I've paired a new bluetooth headset, and when I select it as the Output there, the computer's speaker mutes for a fraction of a second and comes back, but the headset never gets audio
[21:34] <TJ-> ubuntubunny: hmmm, check /var/log/syslog or "journalctl -u bluetooth"
[21:35] <ubuntubunny> thanks TJ- don't know why I didn't think of the syslog
[21:37] <ubuntubunny> bluetoothd[804]: Protocol not supported (93)
[21:37] <ubuntubunny> pulseaudio[2275]: [pulseaudio] module-bluetooth-device.c: Failed to acquire transport /org/bluez/804/hci0/dev_30_21_3A_E4_D2_64/fd2
[21:37] <ubuntubunny> ok, now I have something to go on...
[21:39] <skinux> TJ: That's a very good point. There shouldn't be any radio signals to interfere. However, it sounds like I need to check router log after it happens the next time to see what's going on.
[21:40] <skinux> I should also mention, my laptop is the ONLY machine that is being affected.
[21:41] <TJ-> skinux: if it's 2.4GHz and it is regular I'd suspect something like a microwave oven, TV wireless link, baby monitor, wireless CCTV, and many other devices that use the unlicensed 2.4GHz band
[21:41] <TJ-> skinux: proximity to another radio source could be it, but have you considered it may be the network device going into a power-saving mode ?
[21:43] <pennTeller> Hi guys, is there a way to have ubuntu create a hotspot whenever there are no known wifi networks around?
[21:43] <skinux> Umm, do you mean my adapter or the router going into power saving? Because my other laptop which I use to provide netflix and movies to my TV is fine and everyone else remains uneffected with internet.
[21:44] <skinux> The wireless adapter I use is an 802.11AC
[21:45] <skinux> I know 802.11AC is to prevent from having conflicts with other wireless signals.
[21:46] <TJ-> skinux: the PC's network adapter. If it is dropping there will be a lot of evidence in syslog
[21:46] <skinux> OKay. I'll have to check that next time it happens.
[21:46] <TJ-> skinux: if it's using 802.1ac (5.x GHz band) it could be having to change channels
[21:47] <TJ-> skinux: in that band the device has to switch bands if it detects other non-wifi transmissions in the frequency
[21:47] <TJ-> skinux: s/switch bands/switch frequencies/
[21:47] <skinux> Hmm. So if it switches channels, it would not longer see the wireless internet signal?
[21:51] <TJ-> skinux: the AP and the client should co-ordinate, but it doesn't always work that way, but I suspect it's caused by something else. syslog gathers a LOT of info from wpa_supplicant and network-manager when connections come and go
[21:58] <acresearch> people, what is a good screen recorder that works with ubuntu 17.10?
[21:58] <acresearch> leftyfb: oh ok sorry, just saw your text
[21:58] <TJ-> acresearch: if you're using Wayland probably none
[21:58] <acresearch> people, what is a good screen recorder that works with ubuntu 17.10?oh
[21:58] <acresearch> TJ-: oh
[22:01] <acresearch> TJ-: you are right, OBS doesn't work with 17.10
[22:02] <acresearch> TJ-: is there anything that does?
[22:02] <jer> acresearch, simple google turned up this https://github.com/foss-project/green-recorder whether or not it works, no idea
[22:04] <acresearch> jer: hmm it says to install with APT but it doesn't seem to be there
[22:04] <acresearch> jer: apt search green-recorder ---> gives no result
[22:04] <jer> did you add the ppa?
[22:05] <jer> i'ven ot used this so i can't tell you if that method works; you could always build it from source i suppose
[22:05] <acresearch> jer: oh ok yes it is working now, sorry
[22:06] <jer> no worries; hope it works for you
[22:07] <acresearch> jer: it works, nice, thanks :-)
[22:08] <jer> sure np, as i said, simple google search turned it up :)
[22:08] <jer> "screen recording wayland"
[22:11] <acresearch> jer: i didn't know things are not working with wayland
[22:11] <acresearch> this updates that prevent systems from working is hard to keep up with it
[22:12] <skinux> Okay. I'll unzip previous days logs and see if I can see what's going on. THanks for the help.
[22:13] <jer> acresearch, yeah well so you're aware, wayland and x11 are two different graphical systems, and not generally compatible with one another. gnome has support for both, as other desktop environments do; but things like drivers (for instance, nvidia's proprietary drivers don't support wayland, and tbh, the open source drivers just suck) are non-existent
[22:14] <acresearch> jer: oh i see
[22:14] <acresearch> jer: that explains a lot
[22:14] <acresearch> jer: well, thankfully my work doesn't touch much with graphics, it is more towards python and bioinformatics, but i just wanted to record a little screen cast
[22:15] <acresearch> jer: but yeh, that is why i don't know the difference,
[22:15] <jer> acresearch, i work at a machine learning company, gpu's are part of what i need good drivers for =]
[22:15] <jer> so for now, workstation stays on x11
[22:16] <acresearch> jer: oh, i am learning machine learning at the moment, but i haven't advanced to GPUs, so good think you told me so i keep an eye on this information
[22:16] <skinux> TJ: Does this error tell you anything? ::: Dec 23 07:38:16 skibunix2 NetworkManager[967]: <warn>  [1514043496.2977] sup-iface[0x25a1a20,wlo1]: connection disconnected (reason -4)
[22:19] <TJ-> skinux: yes, it disconnected :D ... read further, for wpa_supplicant messages around that
[22:22] <skinux> Okay, it disconnects (for some reason), scans, associates, establishes connection and then disconnects again.
[22:25] <skinux> I've noticed something. nameserver is usually 192.168.1.1, but I see once or twice at least where it's 192.168.43.1
[22:26] <skinux> I don't know why it would go to 43.1, there is only one router and nameserver is always the same.
[22:27] <TJ-> skinux: is there neighbouring APs it's connecting to?
[22:32] <SimonNL> skinux: you could bind it to the bssid(mac address) of your router
[22:47] <varaindemian> did ubuntu fix "bios" bug that prevented some laptops - lenovo from booting?
[22:51] <Bashing-om> varaindemian: Fixed upstream - the release .iso has yet to be respun : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1734147 .
[22:52] <varaindemian> so can I update?
[22:54] <Bashing-om> varesa|: "< TJ->: do "grep SPI_INTEL_SPI_PLATFORM /boot/config*" - if there are no results you're safe" else install the latest kernel that does not have that module .
[23:14] <skinux> TJ: There are like a handful of other WiFis of neighbors a lot of times. Could that really be my problem?
[23:14] <skinux> WiFi has a 200 foot reach, all neighbors are at least 200 ft away
[23:15] <skinux> Strike that, apparently our next door neighbor would only be 50 ft from this room to inside their house.
[23:15] <TJ-> skinux: I don't know but it sounds like the clues are in the syslog. Check the MAC addresses of the AP(s) the PC is connecting too, especially when it gets that unexpected IP address
[23:16] <skinux> You mean check the mac address of the router I'm connecting to?
[23:16] <TJ-> skinux: it could mean your neighbour is operating an open wifi at times and your PC is deciding it's a better AP than the current one
[23:16] <TJ-> skinux: Yes, MAC is reported by wpa_supplicant in it's associating messages
[23:18] <CoolerX> what is the default root password?
[23:20] <TJ-> CoolerX: there isn't one, Ubuntu uses sudo
[23:20] <TJ-> !root
[23:21] <shakes808> Hello all,  Happy Holidays.  I hope you are all having a great day.
[23:21] <shakes808> I have a question about trying to mount a USB WD Passport.  I have not had any issues in the past, but it seems that something is wrong with it now.  I have tried on my Linux and Windows 10 boxes.
[23:21] <shakes808> Is there any tricks that someone can point me in to get Linux to mount my USB Drive?  I have tried fdisk and lsusb, with both ways not showing my external HD.
[23:21] <skinux> TJ: Umm, is this a change of channel? guessed connection type (wlan0) = 802-3-ethernet
[23:22] <skinux> 802.3 is different than 802.11 I just don't remember exactly why
[23:24] <skinux> 802.3 is a wired standard, why would my wireless be trying to use that?
[23:26] <skinux> Nevermind. I see, it was my internal NIC wlan0, which is still weird because wlan0 is internal WIRELESS...
[23:35] <skinux> Well, why would the AP MAC be different all neighboring connections are secured.
[23:36] <skinux> Plus they are different SSID
[23:39] <TJ-> skinux: thinking it's 802.3 is weird
[23:40] <TJ-> skinux: is the PC connected by eithernet cable to anything else?
[23:45] <skinux> TJ: No, there IS NO wired connection at all.
[23:46] <skinux> But the weird thing is, I saw 802.3 associated with one of the wlan interfaces, which are wireless interfaces.
[23:46] <skinux> 802.3 is associated with my internal wireless NIC, which died. It should be using wlo1 which is my adapter
[23:48] <skinux> I have inet set to manual so I was able to select my adapter, so maybe I need to change to something else to disable the internal wireless NIC and default to my adapter.
[23:51] <quebre> how can i add new certificate and apply non-interactively ? when i do 'dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates', theres a menu, i need to automate that, any hints ?
[23:53] <TJ-> quebre: add in /etc/ssl/certs/ and then run  update-ca-certificates