[00:02] <johnflux_> I have 16.10.  Can I install gcc 7?
[00:04] <ohnx> johnflux_: you can always compile gcc7 yourself
[00:04] <johnflux_> ohnx: that sounds scary :)
[00:04] <TJ-> johnflux_: why? how about creating an LXD container with 17.10 which has it?
[00:08] <johnflux_> I'm going to just upgrade :-)  not sure if I should go for 17.04  or 17.10
[00:09] <TJ-> johnflux_: well 17.04 goes out of support quite soon, 16.10 already out of course
[00:11] <johnflux_> sudo do-release-upgrade -d  says "No new release found"
[00:13] <ca_cabotage> hey all - i
[00:16] <johnflux_> ca_cabotage: -i option not recognised.
[00:16] <bazhang> johnflux_, which version are you on now
[00:17] <ca_cabotage> hey all, i've got a lubuntu 16.04 install in esxi. All was well until the other day I had a power outage, now when i try to login I get the login loop (enter password, screen flashes black, then back to login screen) I've tried logging into shell and "chown user:user ~/.Xauthority", I've tried mv .Xauthority .Xauthority.bak & sudo service lightdm restart. So far nothing is helping - how can I further
[00:17] <ca_cabotage> troubleshoot and fix this?
[00:29] <Bashing-om> ca_cabotage: Power outage can leave the file system in an incomsistent state, might run a file system check/repair from the liveUSB; see here what results  .
[00:31] <bazhang> johnflux_, did you share with us yet what version you are currently on
[00:48] <ca_cabotage> Bashin-om I check the disk for defects and it found none
[00:52] <Bashing-om> ca_cabotage: "check disk for defects" verifies the .iso copy . What I suggest is to run a fsck on the root partition from that liveUSB .
[01:02] <ca_cabotage> Bashing-om it says 1.4% non-contiguous
[01:05] <Bashing-om> ca_cabotage: That is OK . No need for an indepth fix indicated ?
[01:06] <ca_cabotage> it just has pass 1-5, then lists the files and blocks, the 1.4% non-contig. and thats it - doesn't say anything about fixing anything, or anything else at all
[01:10] <sanatankc> hi
[01:12] <Bashing-om> ca_cabotage: Reboot into the install and see what the condition is now .
[01:13] <ca_cabotage> into the install?
[01:14] <ca_cabotage> like the live CD or back into my regular installation
[01:14] <Bashing-om> ca_cabotage: You ran the test from the liveUSB ? . then reboot into your normal system .
[01:15] <ca_cabotage> yeah, alright - i rebooted insto my system and it is still in a login loop
[01:16] <Bashing-om> ca_cabotage: Pastbin the output of ' sudo lshw -C display ' - let's see if this is a graphic's driver issue .
[01:17] <Bashing-om> ca_cabotage: That from the install in the ctl+alt+F1 console .
[01:17] <ca_cabotage> ok, i can't copy paste out of the VM but I'll type up the basics:
[01:18] <ca_cabotage> descript.: vga compt. controller
[01:18] <ca_cabotage> product SVGA II adapter
[01:18] <ca_cabotage> vendor: vmware
[01:18] <ca_cabotage> phys. id: f
[01:18] <ca_cabotage> bus info: pci@...
[01:18] <ca_cabotage> version 00
[01:18] <ca_cabotage> width 32 bits
[01:18] <ca_cabotage> clock 33MHz
[01:18] <ca_cabotage> capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
[01:19] <ca_cabotage> config.: driver=vmwgfx latency=64
[01:19] <ca_cabotage> resources: irq:16 ioport:1070(size=16) memory.... memory:....
[01:19] <ca_cabotage> that's it
[01:21] <Bashing-om> ca_cabotage: Well, driver is loaded . I do not have VM experoence, can not advise further .
[01:21] <ca_cabotage> alright, thanks man - i appreciate it!
[01:23] <Bashing-om> ca_cabotage: :) .. good luck .
[01:34] <piercedwater> hi
[01:41] <Doc-Saintly> I've added Match user !root \n PasswordAuthentication no to the end of my sshd_config file, but it's still letting that account login with a password
[01:41] <Doc-Saintly> and when I do ps -C sshd I see 3 processes running. How do I make sure it's working how I want it to? I want to make it so only a single user can login with a password
[01:43] <export> restart sshd?
[01:43] <export> i think you can send a signal for it to reload it's config but restarting is simple enough, just make sure your lines are properly formed and you aren't doing remotely since you might get locked out.
[01:43] <Doc-Saintly> tried sudo restart sshd, and ssh, neither one gives a confirmation and I still see multiple processes
[01:44] <export> if ubuntu is running systemd then iirc it's gonna be sudo systemctl restart sshd
[01:44] <export> there is also a man page for that i think
[01:45] <Doc-Saintly> no response as well, and I still see 3 sshd processes :\
[01:45] <export> The available cri‐
[01:45] <export> oops
[01:45] <Doc-Saintly> even tried restarting and it keeps booting up with multiple SSHD processes
[01:45] <export> caps the User
[01:45] <Doc-Saintly> I tried that first :\
[01:46] <export> man sshd_config
[01:46] <export> Doc-Saintly: actually just tell what you actually want to do, no reason to chase cars on this lol
[01:47] <Doc-Saintly> I want to make it so only a single uesr can login with a password. all others need to have a keyfile (which I'm not going to generate for them except for a few)
[01:47] <export> so disable password and then override with match for the one user.
[01:48] <Doc-Saintly> Well, based on how the config is not cooperating I'm worried that will lock me out :\
[01:48] <export> Doc-Saintly: https://serverfault.com/questions/307407/ssh-allow-password-for-one-user-rest-only-allow-public-keys
[01:49] <epicmetal> Anyone fixed how Pixel Saver (GNOME extension) has inconsistent button icons on 17.10?
[01:49] <export> the locking out part is definitely a worry though, so be careful...
[01:49] <epicmetal> They look like the Ubuntu theme icons in vanilla GNOME, until you hover, then they go back to normal
[01:49] <export> maybe even set it to revert after a few mintues with sleep && bash tricks
[01:49] <Doc-Saintly> export: there sohuld only ever by one sshd process, right?
[01:50] <export> Doc-Saintly: i think that's normal
[01:51] <export> just depends on your use-case: http://forums.devshed.com/linux-help-33/multiple-sshd-processes-idea-550245.html
[01:54] <Doc-Saintly> export:  but if the restart is working, sohuldn't all the processes get new PIDs?
[01:55] <Doc-Saintly> Thanks export , I'll poke around a bit more before doing the config file again
[01:55] <export> Doc-Saintly: maybe not, i think there is an option where you can keep running ssh connections after a restart but idk.
[01:56] <export> Doc-Saintly: good luck!
[02:28] <Dexx1_> so, I just setup a USB HP printer via hplip on command line. It printed the test page okay, so looks like it is working. How do I find the printers IP address so I can access it's web interface?
[02:36] <Doc-Saintly> export: I got it. I followed the advice to turn password off for everyone else and then on for one user
[02:36] <Doc-Saintly> export: I realized that since I already havd the key auth working I wasn't likely to get locked out as I was playing around with password auth
[02:38] <export> extor: Doc-Saintly yeah, i was mostly just worried about a typo in the config and the server quits loading lol (that has happened to me before)
[02:52] <Doc-Saintly> yea, I wasn't to keen on it either :\
[03:18] <EraserPencil> I have some troubles with initiating a backup repository, need further understanding on mounting. If I mounted /lvbackup on /media/backup then create a folder /media/backup/MBP, does /lvbackup have a dir MBP? and who has permissions over MBP? lvbackup or /media/backup
[03:27] <rypervenche> EraserPencil: What is /lvbackup? type this for us: file /lvbackup
[03:27] <lordcirth> I'm guessing a LVM logical volume?
[03:27] <rypervenche> Best not to guess.
[03:27] <plantain> i'm running artful, but i need the 4.15 kernel for hardware reasons. so i installed the kernel ppa, but now i can't find where toget the linux-tools/linux-cloud-tools packages
[03:28] <EraserPencil> ohyea, it's an lvm logical volume
[03:29] <rypervenche> EraserPencil: Then MBP will be located on the file system on the lvbackup logical volume.
[03:30] <EraserPencil> rypervenche: but if unmounted, MBP still lists under /media/backup
[03:32] <rypervenche> EraserPencil: Then that means you created it before you mounted the drive.
[03:45] <rypervenche> EraserPencil: But normally, if you mount a drive and then create a directory inside the mount point, then unmount the drive, that directory will not be there any longer.
[03:46] <EraserPencil> rypervenche: but if i mounted a drive at a parent directory, does the drive inherit the subdirectories?
[03:46] <rypervenche> EraserPencil: No, it will temporarily cover up or hide the directories that were already there.
[03:47] <EraserPencil> mine wasnt covered up or hidden
[03:48] <rypervenche> EraserPencil: Can you explain exactly what you did and what you were expecting to happen? And what actually happened.
[03:59] <EraserPencil> rypervenche: I've deleted the folders to restart. Just needed to clarify what should happen
[04:16] <somenewb> Hallo
[04:17] <somenewb> Merry X-mas!  Anyone alive?
[04:19] <somenewb> So I am trying to install grub (legacy) on my ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty) machine but it's unable to find the package.  I am doing sudo apt-get install grub.  I am guessing I need to update my repo URLS but no idea to which site.  Any suggestions?
[04:29] <arvin_> looks like xenial 16.04 LTS is the last to carry the grub legacy package: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=grub
[04:32] <epicmetal> I've got this weird "Unknown" window in my alt-tab list, but nothing shows when I switch to it. Anyone seen this?
[04:32] <epicmetal> The icon is a white sheet of paper with a grey warning sign
[04:33] <epicmetal> 17.10 vanilla GNOME
[04:35] <somenewb> Right.  Could I use (maybe append) xenial urls to get grub? or will i have to manually download and install the package myself in this case?
[04:35] <lordcirth> somenewb, why do you need grub legacy rather than grub 2?
[04:38] <somenewb> lordcirth: So I am following a tutorial that uses grub legacy to load a kernel image
[04:38] <lordcirth> somenewb, so look at grub2 docs and substitute
[04:43] <somenewb> lordcirth: thanks, that's probably the best way to go since I'll have to learn how grub2 works eventually.  Just thought it be nice to get some experience with legacy grub then move on to the newer stuff.
[05:41] <Volis> Hey, my computer is stuck at GRUB menu. From the entries shown in ls, I know that my ubuntu partition is (hd0,msdos1). I tried running `configfile (hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub/grub.cfg` but it returns back to black screen with "grub> "
[05:41] <Volis> Back to the grub prompt that is
[05:42] <Volis> (i have ubuntu 16.04 running on the computer)
[05:56] <Volis> I followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting#grub.3E-1 and it's fixed now, yay!
[06:29] <snadge> can the amd proprietary drivers be made to work with the latest ubuntu?
[06:44] <snadge> it seems not.. at least that simplifies the situation :p
[07:12] <EraserPencil> what backup solutions do you guys use?
[07:13] <ghostnik11> hi i just ran this command: sudo alien -ci android-x86-7.1-rc2.x86_64.rpm in order to install android x86. but when i rebooted i got no options to boot into android x86 only options for ubuntu
[07:26] <epicmetal> EraserPencil: rsync
[07:33] <alkisg> ghostnik11: rpm packages are not supported by ubuntu
[07:37] <ghostnik11> alkisg, yeah but alien is built to convert whatever package to deb
[07:37] <alkisg> ghostnik11: right, and alien is supported here, but not the packages that it converts :)
[07:38] <alkisg> E.g. if that rpm puts entries into the boot manager, alien can't handle it... btw, why aren't you installing android normally in a partition?
[07:39] <ghostnik11> alkisg, b/c the android x86 page told me it can be done this way and i thought that was just simply brilliant. don't have to download and then transfer iso to flash then reboot and install using flash
[07:39] <alkisg> The best way to solve that "alien rpm" problem, would be to report it to the android-x86 project (file a bug report)
[07:41] <alkisg> Well, if you want to use android seriously, you'd want a real installation, if not, a VM would be enough; loop-based installations like that rpm or like wubi in general have a few issues...
[07:42] <alkisg> But sure, it's worth it to file a bug report in their bug tracker
[07:43] <alkisg> It's not an Ubuntu issue though, it's not in the Ubuntu code base and Ubuntu doesn't know what they're doing with their installer
[07:47] <XXCoder> hey guys
[07:47] <XXCoder> I wonder if theres a way to block xscreensaver from blocking ctrl-alt-f*
[07:59] <auronandace> XXCoder: if it didn't block it then anyone could walk up to the keyboard and press that combo
[08:00] <XXCoder> I know its bit less secure
[08:00] <XXCoder> but I rarely use tty and I log off once done.
[08:14] <alkisg> Most screensavers don't block alt+ctrl+fx
[08:14] <alkisg> E.g. mate-screensaver doesn't block it
[08:14] <alkisg> Since there the user needs to login anyway again
[08:15] <XXCoder> yeah im using stock xscreensaver though
[08:15] <XXCoder> and it does
[08:17] <Triffid_Hunter> XXCoder: you could always enable sysrq then alt+sysrq+R to have the kernel take keyboard input back from X, after which ctrl+alt+fn should work fine regardless of what xlock or similar has done
[08:18] <XXCoder> ok looking into that
[08:18] <alkisg> XXCoder: according to http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/en/man1/xscreensaver.1.html, it doesn't
[08:18] <alkisg> "Unfortunately,  there is no way for xscreensaver itself to override            the  interpretation  of  these  keys."
[08:18] <alkisg> while talking about switching vts
[08:18] <alkisg> So what you're talking about doesn't sound like xscreensaver issue
[08:19] <XXCoder> strange. source certainly was xscreensaver, I had to kill xscreensaver and 2 hacks running
[08:20] <alkisg> XXCoder: is that xubuntu?
[08:21] <XXCoder> so when it closed I could type stuff and use mouse
[08:21] <alkisg> which version?
[08:21] <XXCoder> a second
[08:21] <XXCoder> xscreensaver 5.37
[08:21] <alkisg> That isn't the issue, so the DE matters
[08:21] <alkisg> E.g. xubuntu may invoke some other lock along with xscreensaver
[08:21] <XXCoder> ahh ok
[08:21] <XXCoder> xfce mint
[08:21] <alkisg> So the problem version doesn't matter, the distro/version does
[08:22] <alkisg> OK, mint isn't supported here :)
[08:22] <XXCoder> not too sure on version
[08:22] <XXCoder> yeah was talking about xscreensaver orginially
[08:22] <XXCoder> thanks though
[08:22] <alkisg> mint may have its own configuration for programs
[08:22] <alkisg> Even for xscreensaver
[08:22] <alkisg> That's why you need to ask on your distro channel
[08:22] <XXCoder> its largely similiar, ubuntu instructions almost always work
[08:22] <alkisg> So that they know about the default confifuration of the programs
[08:23] <alkisg> Yes I know, the basic problem is that it doesn't respect debian policy and writes to /etc whatever it likes
[08:23] <XXCoder> oh xscreensaver was upgraded by myself, since included version is ancient
[08:23] <alkisg> So it breaks everything without notifying
[08:23] <XXCoder> xfce mint do have issue with programs being old lol
[08:23] <alkisg> That's why ubuntu supports ubuntu-mate, which is similar, but not mint, which doesn't respect debian policy
[08:24] <XXCoder> like freecad default was 0.13 which was super crashy for while
[08:24] <alkisg> It's using the same repositories as ubuntu
[08:24] <alkisg> It's not a real distro. So the same version for freecad in both cases.
[08:25] <XXCoder> odd. well adding repo fixed that good :) anyway akways been there (mint chat) but not much help so far
[08:25] <XXCoder> honestly kinda sick of mint odd stuff
[08:25] <XXCoder> lubuntu looked decent on my aspire one
[08:25] <alkisg> Not many developers support mint, so you can expect a few of them in mint channels :)
[08:26] <XXCoder> dunno on pc. maybe just xubuntu
[08:26] <XXCoder> I love xfce
[08:26] <XXCoder> oh yeah whats story on unity
[08:26] <XXCoder> heard ubuntu killed it
[08:27] <alkisg> OK I tested xubuntu screensaver, it doesn't lock vt switching
[08:27] <alkisg> So no issue there
[08:27] <XXCoder> xscreensaver or ubuntu's own rollout?
[08:27] <alkisg> The default screensaver of xubuntu
[08:28] <XXCoder> which is?
[08:29] <XXCoder> xubuntu 14.04 have none heh apparently
[08:30] <alkisg> Press alt+ctrl+l to lock the screen
[08:30] <XXCoder> 2 days ago other post, xubuntu dont come with default screensaver apparently
[08:30] <alkisg> After unlocking, the dislpay manager login page shows, to allow you to unlock it
[08:31] <acosonic> Hi, anyone using CopyQ ?
[08:32] <alkisg> XXCoder: 'light-locker' is running
[08:32] <XXCoder> interesting
[08:32] <alkisg> It's forked from gnome-screesaver, the man page says
[08:33] <alkisg> XXCoder: available since 14.04, so you probably misread something. https://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/
[08:34] <XXCoder> guess that guy didnt know it or something, just flat out said "dont have any, install xscreensaver"
[08:34] <XXCoder> weirdf
[08:35] <akkilinux> I need a shell script, my end goal for script is to filter all the API’s responding above 3 seconds
[08:35] <Triffid_Hunter> I had to set my power button to lock the screen instead of poweroff, it's in a weird spot on my case that's easy to press by accident
[08:35] <XXCoder> its okay bare bones locker apparently, can be removed to iunstall xscreensaver. nice
[08:36] <Triffid_Hunter> akkilinux: sounds like a job for strace if you mean libc/system API calls
[08:45] <akkilinux> Hey ............ I need a shell script, my end goal for script is to filter all the API’s responding above 3 seconds
[08:45] <akkilinux> can anyone help mr into it
[09:03] <alkisg> akkilinux: we tried but you don't answer
[09:03] <alkisg> Explain in more details what you want. Are you looking to use strace?
[09:03] <alkisg> Which API is that? There are thousands of APIs
[09:04] <akkilinux> Actually In my system  API log generated
[09:04] <akkilinux> in it I want APIs detailswho  responding above 3 seconds
[09:05] <alkisg> akkilinux: yeah that sentence explains nothing
[09:05] <alkisg> Try with more words
[09:05] <EriC^^> akkilinux: maybe paste a log of your api?
[09:05] <EriC^^> also #bash might be able to help too fwiw
[09:07] <akkilinux> I am currently used
[09:07] <akkilinux> cat /data/httpd/apiv.vt.com-access_log | awk  '{ print $15 }' | cut -d \? -f1 | sort | uniq -c | sort -n | tr -d '**' | tr -d '/' > /tmp/apiv.vt.com-access_log-dec.txt  cat /tmp/apiv.vt.com-access_log-dec.txt | awk '$2 >= "3000000" { print $2}' > /tmp/apiv.vt.com-access_log-dec2.txt  for i in `cat /tmp/apiv.vt.com-access_log-dec2.txt `;do      grep "$i" /data/httpd/apiv.vt.com-access_log  >> /tmp/apiv.vt.com-access_log-dec3.txt  don
[09:07] <akkilinux> script
[09:07] <akkilinux> but it generate 3 files
[09:08] <akkilinux> but i need 1 backup file
[09:08] <akkilinux> and one output file
[09:52] <unimatrix9> quick question , for totem video , how do i make a playlist for videos ?
[09:52] <geirha> your code is hard to follow, and even harder when we don't know what the input is
[09:57] <Perdu> Hello, I'm trying to check the image I got from http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/17.04/release/ but gpg check fails
[09:57] <Perdu> gpg: BAD signature from "Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key (2012) <cdimage@ubuntu.com>" [unknown]
[09:57] <Perdu> sha256sum is correct, although downloaded over http
[09:57] <Perdu> I don't know if there's a problem on my side or if the keys are indeed invalid
[09:58] <_KaszpiR_> Perdu sha sould be enough
[09:58] <_KaszpiR_> or update your pgp keys
[09:59] <Perdu> I tried with md5, sha1 and sha256
[09:59] <Perdu> all checksums are correct but gpg verification fails
[10:05] <alkisg> Perdu: where did you see that iso images are gpg signed?
[10:06] <alkisg> Ah, you mean the *sums* are gpg signed, not the images...
[10:07] <fairuz> I've tried to uninstall collectd but get errors https://pastebin.com/LEj6Dp6m
[10:07] <fairuz> Hi guys
[10:09] <_KaszpiR_> fairuz already told you ;)
[10:09] <_KaszpiR_> on different channel
[10:10] <fairuz> _KaszpiR_ heh yeah, just pasting on different channel to increase the odds of people responding. :)
[10:11] <Perdu> alkisg: oh you're right, that's the *SUM that is signed
[10:11] <Perdu> not the .iso
[10:11] <Perdu> So that was a problem on my side, the signature is valid
[10:12] <alkisg> fairuz: that problem happens because you have packages that require collected and you removed it
[10:13] <alkisg> fairuz: you would need to remove the other packages as well
[10:13] <fairuz> alkisg thanks. _KaszpiR_ helped me to remove it on another channel.
[10:13] <fairuz> Need to kill the process first
[10:14] <_KaszpiR_> the issue was that uninstalling collectd stops the service, and service stop failed because it took too long tim eto stop sthe service, thus package uninstall failed - fix: kill collectd service first, this happens on micconfigured setups
[10:32] <frenda> Hi there
[10:33] <frenda> My current Desktop: KDE Plasma | I'm using Longman Dictionary within GoldenDict application, but examples are not shown! They were fine in Unity; Have anybody eexperinced same problem? https://u.teknik.io/1IqwV.png
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> frenda: welcome, perhaps the #kubuntu channel might know more of it?
[10:39] <frenda> thnks
[11:04] <Nooby_One_Nooby> hello everybody
[11:06] <onlyabyte> howdy
[11:13] <Nooby_One_Nooby> firstly, new to ubuntu 16.04, and i'm chatting with xchat-gnome. Can someone tell me how to add the "view" with the list of users in this room?
[11:15] <Nooby_One_Nooby> also, unfortunately, i don't remember the name of the user that helped me tremendously yesterday with my upgrade from the 14.04. Just want to say that i've encountered some hiccups (even a phase where my pc did not booted anymore) but in the end, it all worked out fine
[11:22] <Nooby_One_Nooby> i really could use some help with my xchat-gnome
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> !xchat | Nooby_One_Nooby
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> !info hexchat | Nooby_One_Nooby install this one mate
[11:24] <Nooby_One_Nooby> lotuspsychje spreek je ook vlaams?
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> Nooby_One_Nooby: yes, but we only support english here
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> Nooby_One_Nooby: dutch support in #ubuntu-nl or #ubuntu-be
[11:25] <Nooby_One_Nooby> lotuspsychje your profile said you're in belgium .... i'm belgian, but residing in brazil at the moment
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> Nooby_One_Nooby: in hexchat/prefernces you can enable the userlist
[11:34] <Nooby_One_Nooby> lotuspsychje followed your advice, installed hexchat
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> Nooby_One_Nooby: you can change options now, like colored names in userlist etc tabs/tree
[11:35] <Nooby_One_Nooby> yes, i've noticed how much simpler it is
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> Nooby_One_Nooby: what i always change, is colored nicks in userlist and change background to black
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> Orvalvisje: and change to a bigger font
[11:41] <stilllife00> I cannot install Ubuntu, I get error number 5 input output error. is this the best channel for ask for support ?
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: wich ubuntu version and at wich point are you stuck?
[11:42] <stilllife00> ubuntu 16.04.3 the installer loads fine, I can make partition, after asking me for the username, keyboard layout etc. the error appears and the installer crashes
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: are you installing ubuntu single?
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: as i singleboot, not dualboot
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> in
[11:45] <stilllife00> if by single you mean whitout dual boot, no. the configuration is as follows: widndows 10 already installed on a 500gb SSD with UEFI and GPT, ubuntu should go on a separate PCIe disk of 256 GB with GPT. I can format the PCIe disk as I which but I dont wanna touch the windows disk if possible
[11:47] <Orvalvisje> using ubuntu 16.04, dual boot, laptop, fresh install. Firstly, should i upgrade to the 17.04, is it worth it (not withstanding the 16 is lts)
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | stilllife00
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> Orvalvisje: depends on what you really want? LTS as stable long support, or non-lts shorter more experimental/newer ubuntu?
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> Orvalvisje: or help bug out and help the community?
[11:49] <Orvalvisje> hmmm .... i'm really a noob, i wouldn't be of much help, really
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: input/output errors usually means Hd broken, but in your case might be uefi setting?
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> Orvalvisje: ok, so we left with lts stable vs newer experimental?
[11:51] <Orvalvisje> i was also wondering, read some things about the 16 being slow as a result to a problem with amd drivers?
[11:51] <Orvalvisje> lotuspsychje i think you made your point ;)
[11:51] <jeremies> In a live usb with ubuntu installed, I check disk for defects and it encounters errors, how to list them?
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> Orvalvisje: can you explain what goes 'slow' on your 16.04 exactly?
[11:52] <stilllife00> lotuspsychje: the hd was working fine and its quite new. is there a way to check if it has problems? and how can I check if its the UEFI setting? I don't want to go back to BIOS/MBR
[11:52] <Orvalvisje> lotuspsychje i'm already a great deal of time without visiting Belgium, and when i saw your name, first thing in my mind is the lotus speculoos ;)
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: read the dualboot ubuntu help mate, for the correct settings about it i usually do singleboots myself
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Orvalvisje for more offtopic :p
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> !dmesg | jeremies
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> jeremies: you can trace errors in dmesg or syslog logs of your system
[11:55] <stilllife00> lotuspsychje: thanks for the link, but I fail to see how it applies to my case. It just says to do what I am doing already. Install windows first and then prepare the partitions, then it talks about MBR (wich I dont want) and about live CD (which I dont use). can u be more precise on how that documentation can help me solving the IO error ?
[11:56] <alkisg> stilllife00: if you run `sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/devsdb`, where sdb is your pci-e disk, you write all of it. On another tab, `dmesg -w` will be listening for errors.
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: well i presume if your hd is still new it wont be broken yet, so i presume it might be an uefi setting not correctly so the partition of ubuntu refuses to install?
[11:56] <alkisg> stilllife00: (take care not to overwrite the wrong partition)
[11:56] <alkisg> stilllife00: also, after that, better format it with gparted, just in case the ubuntu installer does math incorrectly
[11:57] <alkisg> `sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M` will be faster
[11:57] <stilllife00> alkisg: am formatting with gparted since I was afraid of DD but I can give it a try with the dmesg thanks
[11:58] <Orvalvisje> lotuspsychje with slow i mean many gray screens in various programs
[11:58] <alkisg> stilllife00: are you doing a full format, or a quick format? Gparted does quick format
[11:58] <alkisg> Quick format won't show bad sectors outside of the file allocation area
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> Orvalvisje: you can check your graphics card chipset + active driver in: sudo lshw -C video
[11:58] <stilllife00> alkisg: I guess it was a quick format then. how do I do a full format ? with DD?
[11:59] <alkisg> stilllife00: dd isn't a format, it blanks the disk, just testing for errors
[11:59] <alkisg> You'll need a quick format _after_ dd has blanked the disk
[11:59] <stilllife00> alkisg: gotcha
[11:59] <Orvalvisje> lotuspsychje   *-display
[11:59] <Orvalvisje>        description: VGA compatible controller
[11:59] <Orvalvisje>        product: 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[11:59] <Orvalvisje>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[11:59] <Orvalvisje>        physical id: 2
[11:59] <Orvalvisje>        bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
[12:01] <Orvalvisje> oops?
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> !paste | Orvalvisje
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> Orvalvisje: at bottom should show driver= ...
[12:02] <stilllife00> alkisg: how can I use sudo dd from the installation OS ?
[12:02] <jeremies> lotuspsychje: its a problem on a live usb installation for ubuntu. I used it for install one system. Should I reinstall this system?
[12:02] <Orvalvisje> lotuspsychje https://paste.ubuntu.com/26257065/
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> Orvalvisje: seems your driver is active already
[12:03] <Orvalvisje> ok
[12:03] <alkisg> stilllife00: normally; sudo dd...
[12:03] <alkisg> Alt+ctrl+t to open a terminal
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> jeremies: not sure whats happening exactly, can you provide us more details of your story? ubuntu version? steps tryed?
[12:04] <stilllife00> alkisg: it shows me the man for sudo
[12:06] <stilllife00> alkisg: there is something interesting though in dmesg. SQUASHFS error: zlib decompression failed, data probably corrupt
[12:06] <jeremies> lotuspsychje: I download the iso of ubuntu-mate and write it in a usb to make a live usb. In the grub menu of the live usb I check disk for defects and it encounters errors. This pendrive I use it to install an ubuntu system. Must I reinstall the system?
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> jeremies: ok, can you pastebin us the results of those errors?
[12:08] <jeremies> the file /install/mt86plus in the iso doesn't match the md5sum
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> !md5 | jeremies
[12:09] <stilllife00> alkisg: and then: squashfs_read data failed to read block 0x5aab1ac0
[12:09] <jeremies> lotuspsychje: I know this
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: is it possible to disable your windows and test the ubuntu setup on your new hd single as a test, to see what the installer does<?
[12:10] <stilllife00> lotuspsychje: I can do that but in that case will grub not detect the windows system and put the wrong entries in grub ?
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: for ubuntu single install, you need fastboot & secureboot disabled
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: well if you disable drive physically perhaps?
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: would be interesting to know if the hd is really faulty, or its uefi block
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: ive seen alot of weird errors in the past due to uefi settings in the ubuntu partitoning
[12:11] <stilllife00> lotuspsychje: disable physically aka remove right ?
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[12:12] <stilllife00> lotuspsychje: ok will try that thanks, I just found another thing here that I will try first : https://askubuntu.com/questions/528036/ubuntu-installation-over-usb-and-dvd-fails
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: if setup bypasses the partitoning singleboot, we know its not your hd
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquashfsErrors
[12:15] <stilllife00> lotuspsychje: thanks, the USB stick seems fine and the MD5 is checked, I will try all the rest (and also removing the Windows disk)
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: another thing you can try is testing a 16.04.2 iso and update
[12:16] <stilllife00> lotuspsychje: of will try as well, I am just on a very slow connection so it will take ages but I ll keep it as last resort
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: i had machines in the past that didnt like .3 kernel
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: your new hd is a pci ssd?
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> hey ericus
[12:18] <stilllife00> lotuspsychje: yep but is not new, i had ubuntu and arch linux before, now I am just cleaning up and going back to ubuntu only
[12:18] <stilllife00> lotuspsychje: it has 1 year
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> stilllife00: did you test other Os on that same hd before?
[12:20] <ericus> lotuspsychje?
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> ericus: sorry was for EriC^^
[12:20] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> hey ioria
[12:21] <ioria> lotuspsychje, hi, lotus :)
[12:21] <alkisg> (02:04:09 μμ) stilllife00: alkisg: it shows me the man for sudo ==> the full command was in my previous message, (01:57:36 μμ) alkisg: `sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M` will be faster
[12:22] <alkisg> stilllife00: the dmesg errors mean that it has data loss reading from the live cd/usb. It's not a very good sign :)
[12:44] <stilllife00> alkisg: does it mean that I can try a different USB stick ?
[12:45] <stilllife00> alkisg: yes the full command instead of running shows the sudo help message
[12:55] <Neo1> I've installed debian on vm
[12:56] <Neo1> guys it's true ubuntu repositories files cannot always normally work in debian?
[12:56] <Tin_man> then try #debian
[12:56] <alkisg> stilllife00: that means you misstyped it
[12:56] <Neo1> no, I have common questions that relate to both
[12:57] <Neo1> ok, will speak better in debian or ubuntu server
[12:58] <Neo1> just people in debian said that ubuntu repositories ppa wont work and should use their own
[12:58] <Neo1> I though it's equal OS
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> Neo1  if they were the same, there would be no need for a different name
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> or different repos
[13:07] <lucas_ai> I want to run a simple command to start a proxy server, when my ubuntu server instance starts up or reboots. How can I do this VERY EASILY?
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> lucas_ai  try with @reboot inside a cronjob ... sudo crontab -e
[13:08] <EriC^^> lucas_ai: sudo crontab -e ---> @reboot /path/to/command
[13:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:00] <Exterminador> stupid question: can I install Ubuntu in a external drive?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> Exterminador, yes
[15:03] <Exterminador> what about keep the bootloader inside the pc only? I mean, I want the laptop to handle everything, and just boot into the external drive if I have it plugged, if I make myself clear tho
[15:09] <EriC^^> Exterminador: depends if you have uefi or mbr
[15:09] <EriC^^> Exterminador: in either case put the bootloader on the disk itself, and let the bios have it first in the boot order, if it's there it'll boot it
[15:09] <Exterminador> I think it's uefi tho
[15:10] <EriC^^> Exterminador: ok, install it to the disk and manually make an efi partition and stuff
[15:11] <Exterminador> I'm partitioning the disk now. I need to do this as a "rescue" measure..
[15:12] <Exterminador> erm.. what's the command to create a bootable USB stick? I don't want to get back to Windows to create it via Rufus
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> !usb | Exterminador
[15:17] <Exterminador> let's see if I can make it work tho
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> hi lotuspsychje
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> hey MonkeyDust
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> merry xmass MonkeyDust
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> and to you lotuspsychje
[15:36] <CQ>  hello, I have a question with FF running on 17.04. I'm trying to get http://www.eternagame.org/ to work but something that I can't figure out is blocking between ublock origin, umatrix and noscript... even when I allow everything. the main page seems to be OK, but going to "play now" I only see a blue page. Any hints welcome...
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> CQ: tryed it in chromium and says plugin not supported
[15:41] <CQ> lotuspsychje, hm, any idea what the plugin is?
[15:41] <CQ> I see the same message on chromium
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> CQ: think its a shockwave flash
[15:42] <CQ> lotuspsychje, sigh, I was afraid of that...
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> CQ: lemme try with pepperflash holdon
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> CQ: yes, working
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | CQ
[15:44] <l0llip0p> merry christmas and happy new year 4all! (little bit late though..)
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> l0llip0p: same to you
[15:51] <CQ> lotuspsychje, works, thanks!
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> !yay | CQ
[16:01] <Scoop7> anyone knows how can I resolve my bluetooth in ubuntu 16.04 lts currently not seeing any devices
[16:01] <Scoop7> https://thepasteb.in/p/vghO8VqZAoVh3
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> Scoop7: can you doublecheck with blueman?
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> !info blueman | Scoop7
[16:04] <derekjc> Scoop7: maybe useful: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=228888
[16:07] <TJ-> Scoop7: "bluetooth hci0: Direct firmware load for brcm/BCM.hcd failed with error -2" ... ensure the firmware is available and loaded first
[16:09] <TJ-> Scoop7: see the solutions here (to extract the firmware from the Windows driver CAB file) https://askubuntu.com/questions/617513/bluetooth-not-connecting-to-devices-even-though-it-recognizes-them#643260
[16:12] <skinux> I just apt-get autoremove and it was removing things I want. I thought it was just for old unnecessary packages?
[16:14] <TJ-> skinux: packages listed for auto-remove are those no longer depended on by some other package, so e.g. removing ubuntu-desktop might leave a bunch of it's dependencies with no other package also depending on them, so would be candidates for autoremove
[16:14] <skinux> Well, why would it remove gnome-menus?
[16:16] <EriC^^> skinux: something else you installed probably pulled it in, then you uninstalled it
[16:16] <skinux> Well, HexChat came with Ubuntu I thought.
[16:16] <skinux> gnome-menus comes with gnome
[16:17] <EriC^^> nope, hex chat isn't ubuntu default
[16:17] <EriC^^> apt-cache rdepends gnome-menus    shows what packages depend on it
[16:17] <EriC^^> brb
[16:18] <skinux> gnome desktop depends on it and I have gnome-desktop installed.
[16:21] <EriC^^> and autoremove is asking to remove it?
[16:21] <Scoop7> TJ- both of the top2 solutions doesn't work
[16:22] <Scoop7> the top one gives 401 to the dropbox link
[16:22] <Scoop7> and the second seems obsolete as well , because "E: Unable to locate package cabextract"
[16:22] <Scoop7> I can't extract the downloaded file with a package that doesn't exist
[16:22] <Scoop7> so what should I use to extract it then ?
[16:23] <TJ-> !info cabextract | Scoop7: you'd need to install it
[16:24] <Scoop7> I've tried
[16:25] <Scoop7> https://thepasteb.in/p/nZhlDBg86q6hY
[16:26] <Scoop7> ubottu
[16:26] <skinux> No, autoremove removed it without asking
[16:26] <menace> is there any list for apparmor when the features will be fully upstream in the kernel? like with the status page in the btrfs-wiki?
[16:27] <skinux> i technically use Ubuntu Studio, nbut gnome was installed first.
[16:29] <TJ-> Scoop7: I suspect you need to enable the 'universe' component of the archives, via the Software Sources dialog
[16:30] <Scoop7> TJ- I am currently trying out the 3rd answer
[16:31] <Scoop7> which maybe for me because I got my dell in 2016
[16:31] <Scoop7> maybe fits me*
[16:31] <Scoop7> https://askubuntu.com/questions/617513/bluetooth-not-connecting-to-devices-even-though-it-recognizes-them#643260
[16:31] <generic> i wonder why ubuntu hasn't got a default firewall like windows-firewall
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | generic
[16:32] <Scoop7> All this hustle, because my wife thought it would be a good idea to buy me  bluetooth earphones replacing my old broken wired earphones, lol
[16:32] <TJ-> Scoop7: :D
[16:33] <generic> lotuspsychje: what I miss is a great frontend that comes with every ubuntu installation
[16:33] <skinux> Scoop7: Why is bluetooth an issue? Ubuntu handles it very well out of hte box.
[16:33] <Scoop7> she's on a mac so clearly didn't had any ideas... the hell she sent me to :D
[16:34] <generic> lotuspsychje: lol ufw isnt even installed on my machine
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> generic: read the url above; gufw
[16:35] <generic> lotuspsychje: Ill tell you in a second if its any good
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> generic: apt-cache search firewall, other packages to test on your system
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> !info fwbuilder | generic
[16:36] <generic> lotuspsychje: not really what I had in mind though
[16:37] <generic> lotuspsychje: first it needs su access
[16:37]  * vertor grabs his popcorn
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> vertor  cynic
[16:38]  * vertor is just hungry ;)
[16:38] <generic> lotuspsychje: and then i want something that works really simple like noscript and adds rules
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> generic  try fwbuilder
[16:39] <generic> MonkeyDust: i know fwbuilder
[16:39] <generic> MonkeyDust: but its not really the desktop solution
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> generic  gufw lets you add rules
[16:41] <generic> MonkeyDust: it is a nice frontend for iptables too
[16:41] <Scoop7> TJ- I've used bitbleach to clean my OS including the APT.....
[16:41] <Scoop7> just minutes ago
[16:41] <generic> MonkeyDust: but do you have to be iptables expert to use linux ?
[16:41] <generic> MonkeyDust: of course not
[16:41] <Scoop7> I believe it's the cause apt isn't picking up any packages
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> generic  no, i'm not an iptables expert and use linux
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> generic: configuring a firewall is complex, even with a GUI
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> generic: here we can help you about the ubuntu part, for firewall help try #netfilter
[16:43] <Exterminador> btw. I've read something on the website about the download of Ubuntu 17.10 is currently discouraged due to an issue on certain Lenovo laptops. bit since my laptop isn't a Lenovo, I think I can go ahead right?
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> or ##security
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> Exterminador: i think that got fixxed now
[16:45] <Exterminador> lotuspsychje: tks :)
[17:20] <generic> how do i restart the x server in 16.04 ?
[17:22] <leftyfb> generic: sudo reboot or sudo systemctl restart lightdm or sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart or sudo service lightdm restart or log out and log back in
[17:22] <generic> leftyfb: thanks
[17:26] <stilllife00> alkisg: with a different USB stick the installation works fine, thanks for the support
[17:28] <alkisg> stilllife00: cool, maybe the errors were from the stick and not from the disk then
[17:30] <VoLLi> Hey, as i am trying to take a screenshot on my ubuntu 17.04 running in a VM it seems the browser window is not showing. instead it's showing the desktop background. anyone have a clue what might be going on?
[17:35] <tsarompy> wat?
[17:35] <tsarompy> you want to take a screenshot, i see that
[17:35] <tsarompy> but what was the rest of it VoLLi
[17:37] <bluenemo> hi guys. I've just installed 16.04 on my thinkpad t460p. It seems that the font size of all the windows is extremely large.. Seems to be some scaling issue. I've tried gnome-tweak-tool and regular settings without any effect. I have to note that I installed ubuntu 16.04 desktop and then installed i3-wm, so the large windows are in i3-wm.
[17:38] <bluenemo> it seems that the 100% zoom, for example in firefox or chromium-browser, is way to large.
[17:42] <VoLLi> tsarompy: well, seems the other windows (which are not covered by a browser window) are showing on the screenshot, without the borders though
[17:45] <Scoop7> https://thepasteb.in/p/r0hwZJX6q1WFK  I think my bluetooth problem is that it's trying to load the wrong package
[17:46] <Scoop7> it should be loading BCM43142A0-0a5c-21d7.hcd
[17:46] <Scoop7> but it goes for BCM.hcd
[17:46] <Scoop7> how to resolve this?
[17:46] <Scoop7> -TJ
[17:46] <Scoop7> TJ-
[17:47] <tsarompy> VoLLi: can you show me this screenshot
[17:47] <tsarompy> bluenemo: you need to adjust your DPI
[17:47] <tsarompy> dots-per-inch
[17:47] <tsarompy> 96 is standard
[17:47] <tsarompy> i prefer 93 :D
[17:48] <bluenemo> tsarompy, should the applications respond immediately when changing it via xrandr --dpi 96 ?
[17:48] <tsarompy> bluenemo: you can set your DPI in .Xresources
[17:48] <tsarompy> google an example of an .Xresources file
[17:48] <tsarompy> are you starting i3 from the tty?
[17:48] <tsarompy> like using startx
[17:49] <tsarompy> btw if you just want i3, you can purge gnome
[17:49] <TJ-> Scoop7: hmmm, maybe simply rename the file (or create a symbolic-link) for BCM.hcd ?
[17:49] <Scoop7> yeah trying this now
[17:49] <tsarompy> bluenemo: ive never tried changing dpi via xrandr, i wasnt aware it could
[17:49] <tsarompy> but if it works for you go for it
[17:51] <bluenemo> tsarompy, no via lightdm login thingy
[17:52] <bluenemo> xrandr does nothing so far
[17:53] <tsarompy> i wouldnt bother with a display manager if youre going to use i3
[17:53] <tsarompy> you should make an .xinitrc file
[17:53] <tsarompy> lol
[17:53] <tsarompy> uh oh
[17:54] <tsarompy> "whats this button do?"
[17:54]  * tsarompy vanish
[17:54] <VoLLi> tsarompy: seems that the PrtScrn button just captures the background image. So there's really not much to show there. i could upload one to imgur though, if you need to see it :D
[17:54] <tsarompy> if you want a screenshot in linux you should install scrot
[17:54] <tsarompy> then in a terminal $ scrot filename.png
[17:55] <Scoop7> TJ- should the ownership be root of those packages ?
[17:55] <tsarompy> if you have xfce, it comes with a screenshot program that will upload it to imgur for you
[17:55] <VoLLi> actually i need screenshots to be working for an automation tool using image recognition. so scrot wouldn't help me much there.
[17:56] <TJ-> Scoop7: ownership shouldn't matter, as long as UID 0 (root) has read access to the firmware file
[17:58] <bluenemo> tsarompy, can you paste me yours? This: xrandr --output eDP-1 --scale 1.0x1.0 (fiddle with the 1.0's) changes stuff for the worse..
[17:58] <bluenemo> for example my i3bar has kind of the correct size while firefox, thunderbird and so on are scaled way to large
[17:58] <bluenemo> if I set it to 2.0x2.0, firefox and so on look ok but the bar is way to small
[17:58] <bluenemo> s/to/too
[17:59] <tsarompy> you need to edit your $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini file
[17:59] <tsarompy> and set the DPI
[17:59] <tsarompy> to whatever your DPI is set to for everything else
[17:59] <bluenemo> i c
[18:00] <tsarompy> and you really shouldnt use zooming in xrandr, you should set your DPI properly across all toolkits
[18:01] <TickerTape> I'm trying to open an xterm in compiz to run a command with xterm -e. but I don't want this new window to steal the keyboard focus; it's just meant for passively viewing a log. how to achieve this from the command line?
[18:01] <tsarompy> set window rules in ccsm i guess
[18:01] <bluenemo> tsarompy, (agree on xrandr). I dont feel like a lot has changed
[18:02] <bluenemo> set gtk-xft-dpi = 96
[18:03] <bluenemo> tsarompy, ccsm?
[18:03] <tsarompy> heres an example if you need it bluenemo
[18:03] <tsarompy> https://github.com/dpobel/config/blob/master/config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
[18:03] <tsarompy> i was talking to someone else about ccsm
[18:03] <bluenemo> ah
[18:03] <tsarompy> you should also edit your $HOME/.gtkrc-2.0 file
[18:03] <tsarompy> you can use the program lxappearance to set gtk properties
[18:03] <tsarompy> change your DPI with that
[18:03] <tsarompy> and it will write the file for you
[18:04] <bluenemo> like gnome-tweak-tool will, yes
[18:04] <tsarompy> what did you add gtk-xft-dpi to? that belongs in your settings.ini
[18:04] <tsarompy> gnome-tweak-tool only affects gtk3 afaik
[18:04] <tsarompy> lxappearance does gtk2 and 3
[18:04] <bluenemo> ah
[18:04] <tsarompy> id use that
[18:05] <tsarompy> its also tiny
[18:05] <tsarompy> so you can remove if after you set it how you want it
[18:05] <tsarompy> just dont purge it
[18:05] <tsarompy> TickerTape: i need moar info than just 'im running compiz'
[18:05] <tsarompy> what window manager is compiz running with
[18:05] <tsarompy> marco, xfwm, emerald, etc
[18:05] <tsarompy> ?
[18:06] <Scoop7> TJ- as I understand ubuntu 16.04 doesn't support my device for bluetooth ? https://askubuntu.com/questions/773629/16-04-bluetooth-error-not-enough-free-handles-to-register-service
[18:06] <Scoop7> because I am getting the same issue on   sudo service bluetooth status
[18:07] <bluenemo> tsarompy, I assume you have xfce4 fully installed right? lxappearance alone doesnt offer me any scale / dpi / size settings
[18:07] <bluenemo> except regular font size
[18:07] <tsarompy> weird
[18:07] <tsarompy> okay then yeah set it manually
[18:08] <tsarompy> you have it set in gtk-3.0/settings.ini yes?
[18:08] <tsarompy> did you edit your $HOME/.gtkrc-2.0 file?
[18:08] <bluenemo> tsarompy, there is only a gtk-3.0 directory
[18:08] <bluenemo> ah wait, misready your line
[18:09] <tsarompy> make a .gtkrc-2.0 file in your home directory
[18:09] <tsarompy> you can use that gtk-dpi settings line in it too
[18:09] <tsarompy> paste it in there and save it  and relogin
[18:09] <bluenemo> there is one - i misread your line.
[18:09] <tsarompy> you should be good to go
[18:09] <tsarompy> just make sure your DPI is the same in both files
[18:09] <tsarompy> and if you set it in .Xresources make sure its the same obv
[18:09] <bluenemo> added a gtk-dpi="96" to .gtkrc-2.0
[18:09] <tsarompy> no no
[18:10] <tsarompy> gtk-xft-dpi = 96
[18:10] <bluenemo> ah, thx
[18:10] <bluenemo> ok, restarting lightdm, sec
[18:11] <bluenemo> tsarompy, that did the trick, thank ou!
[18:11] <tsarompy> yw
[18:11] <bluenemo> the higher the larger things will appear right? I could use it just a "bit" larger I think
[18:12] <tsarompy> yz
[18:12] <tsarompy> just make sure the DPI matches in all files
[18:13] <bluenemo> sure. I assume there is a specific way to increment the dpi? whats a good next level after 96?
[18:13] <tsarompy> try 103
[18:13] <tsarompy> its just a lil bit bigger
[18:13] <tsarompy> however you could just increase font size
[18:13] <cfoch> Hello
[18:13] <tsarompy> but DPI will apply to everything not just GUI
[18:13] <tsarompy> hi cfoch
[18:13] <cfoch> is Adawaita GNOME dekstop theme included in Ubuntu repos by default
[18:14] <bluenemo> ok, trying that, second
[18:14] <cfoch> ?
[18:14] <bluenemo> tsarompy, 103 is perfect, thanks for your input! :)
[18:15] <oerheks> cfoch, as of zesty, yes https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adwaita-qt
[18:16] <tsarompy> god adwaita is ugly
[18:16] <tsarompy> try breeze if you hate it, they have it for everything but qt3
[18:20] <Scoop7> after trying like 10things and reading 20 forum threads/bug submits , and spending like 4 hours~ I've think I am reverting back to wired earphones
[18:20] <Scoop7> will add those bluetooth earphones to the shell
[18:28] <VoLLi> tsarompy: so seems if i turn off 3d hardware acceleration in the VM settings screenshots are working like they should now.
[18:29] <tsarompy> i cant really help you with VM stuff
[18:39] <cfoch> oerheks: why -qt?
[18:53] <nadio> anyone here that have mono xsp4 running under ubuntu ? running into wierd problems all the time
[18:53] <cfoch> How do I install the default GNOME Shell theme in Ubuntu?
[18:57] <ikonia> nadio: there is a pretty good mono support community
[18:59] <nadio> ikonia: very idle at the monent because of the day, already on the freenode one and the official on a different network
[19:00] <cfoch> I just want to put my theme dark
[19:11] <Exterminador> how do i add a user without password?
[19:12] <ikonia> doesn't the user admin gui allow a blank password ?
[19:12] <nadio> ikonia: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/56765/creating-an-user-without-a-password
[19:12] <nadio>    --disabled-password \
[19:12] <ikonia> nadio: I know how to do it
[19:12] <ikonia> I'm not asking
[19:12] <nadio> ikonia: was for Exterminador
[19:13] <ikonia> nadio: right, but you said my name
[19:13] <Exterminador> tks!
[19:19] <nadio> ikonia: I am still hang over, deal with it. and sorry.
[19:26] <bluenemo> hi guys. I've got a Thinkpad t460p with a Sierra Wireless EM7345 card, but it does not show up in network-manager
[19:27] <bluenemo> it also does not show up in lshw-gtk or lspci.
[19:27] <bluenemo> oh and i'm running a freshly installed 16.04 desktop
[19:42] <amirite> I configured a system did service to run Before=another.service, and indeed it started before it (a few milliseconds before it), but it did not wait until it finished -- i.e. they ran pretty much in parallel. How do I instruct systemd to start service A *After* service B has *successfully started **and** finished*
[19:46] <Exterminador> does anyone around here uses Stremio on Ubuntu 17.10? I've created a starter but somehow isn't open the application and not even double clicking in the respective folder. I'm a bit stuck now
[19:47] <TML> apologies in advance, I am not familiar with systemd and seem to be chasing an endless rabbit-hole of ignorance, but am rather desperate to get home to my family and the online docs are being less than helpful - where do I tell a systemd based system the information I used to put in /etc/resolv.conf?
[19:49] <oerheks> Exterminador, maybe you need to make the appimage executable first? http://gamblisfx.com/stremio-4-0-on-ubuntu-16-04/
[19:49] <oerheks> it is not in our repos, officially
[19:50] <TML> The /etc/resolv.conf file itself says to `run "systemd-resolve --status" to see details about the actual nameservers.` - but that command errors out: Failed to get global data: Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.resolve1.service not found.
[19:50] <TML> Failed to get global data: Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.resolve1.service not found.
[19:51] <amirite> irc is useless
[19:53] <Goop> I have both Ubuntu and Windows installed on my computer. I have Ubuntu installed on one physical hard drive and Windows10 installed another physical hard drive, however when I boot up my computer, it always chooses Windows10. Is there a way to make sure that my computer uses Ubuntu GRUB (I think that's what it's called), and have it choose Ubuntu by default (if you don't choose another option in the 3-10 sec window of time), and still have
[19:53] <Goop> the option of booting Windows on the other drive?
[19:54] <TJ-> Goop: yes. If the system is booting using legacy BIOS then set the GRUB disk first in the boot order. If it boots using UEFI then set Ubuntu as the default boot entry in the fimrware's Setup boot menu options
[19:55] <bluenemo> whats the name of the power manager applet command?
[19:57] <bluenemo> (I run i3wm and want to start the power manager applet, so it shows up in my bar)
[19:57] <Exterminador> oerheks: I'm not using the appimage tho. I've downloaded 3.6.5, and still it doesn't execute no matter what.
[19:58] <Exterminador> and I'm sure I've chmoded it to be executable
[20:01] <Exterminador> hum.. using ./Stremio.sh gave me an error about libgconf-2.so.4, cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
[20:06] <Exterminador> solved! tks ;)
[20:08] <Goop> TJ-, what's with EUFI or whatever it's called?
[20:09] <TJ-> !uefi | Goop: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface
[20:15] <Goop> TJ-, does that make UEFI better/more configurable with more toys to play with?
[20:15] <TJ-> Goop: no, it just swaps one set of bugs for another :)
[20:16] <alkisg> Haha
[20:17] <alkisg> In theory, this new "bios" provides more services for disk, network, screen access etc
[20:25] <TJ-> :p
[20:29] <shazbotmcnasty> hey there - my backup software doesn't have access to  folder that it's in /var/www/'program'/data - thus it cannot back it up. When looking into the permissions tab it says I'm not the owner, thus I cannot change the permissions on it. I'm assuming I would be able to as root - how do I give a user read/write/execute without taking the owner away from a file, or changing anything really for the
[20:30] <shazbotmcnasty> another user
[20:30] <shazbotmcnasty> i just need user "user" to access a folder and all of its contents, without removing or changing any access whatsoever to www-user
[20:36] <shazbotmcnasty> I've broken many a things by changing file permissions all willy nilly and am trying to avoid it for a production server
[20:42] <blkadder> shazbotmcnasty, You have a couple of options.
[20:43] <blkadder> You can add the user to the group that the owner of the file is in and make sure that has group read permissions.
[20:44] <blkadder> Or you could give other read permissions, but that gives anyone access to that directory.
[20:44] <blkadder> That's the answer to your question, but I think you may be asking the wrong question in the first place.
[20:44] <blkadder> Your backup software should probably have the ability to read everything.
[20:44] <blkadder> Given it is backup software.
[20:48] <TML> devuan is installed and customer is working. Have a great holiday! :)
[20:50] <shazbotmcnasty> blkadder: it runs as root, and root was not in the www-data group, and i'm not sure it's supposed to be. I added the user that I wanted to the www-data group and it seems to have fixed it. Lets see if the backup succeeds.
[20:50] <espacito> nice holydays
[20:50] <shazbotmcnasty> It's Crashplan...
[20:53] <OpaoS> türk var mı
[20:54] <shazbotmcnasty> I think it worked. Before it said 0KB in the file, now it says 35.6GB - looks like it worked.
[21:12] <Orvalvisje> hello
[21:12] <Orvalvisje> anyone familiar with my weather app in ubuntu 16?
[21:14] <Orvalvisje> i am residing in brazil, but my desktop is in English. Installed the app using the terminal, and the settings window is in Portuguese and i can't seem to change it into english
[21:17] <compdoc> Orvalvisje, maybe its to do with the servers you get your updates from
[21:17] <skinux> Is there a setting to make Ubuntu send audio via HDMI and not just video?
[21:18] <alkisg> Orvalvisje: env | grep ^L
[21:18] <Orvalvisje> compdoc is there a way to get around? I really would love them in english
[21:18] <alkisg> What's the output of that, put it to pastebin
[21:18] <alkisg> (in a terminal)
[21:19] <compdoc> Orvalvisje, I dont know, but hang out in here a while or try different times of day
[21:19] <compdoc> *try asking at dirrerent times
[21:21] <insi> helyo
[21:21] <insi> Is it bad to have radeon and amdgpu kernel modules/drivers loaded at the same time?
[21:22] <insi> I haven't installed any proprietary drivers or anything, but this is what the ubuntu install did. I'm running a AMD R9 390 GPU
[21:26] <Orvalvisje> alkisg what's that that you are saying? is that a terminal command? will do what?
[21:31] <insi> i ask because ubuntu keeps crashing back to the login screen seemingly randomly
[21:31] <insi> and I wonder if its the two kernel modules that are loaded which is the issue
[21:39] <skinux> What is the hotkey for zooming? I seem to have done it by mistake.
[21:43] <Bashing-om> skinux: try ctl+scroll wheel .
[21:44] <skinux> Didn't work. AS I move the mouse, the entire screen is moving
[21:46] <SimonNL> skinux: try pressing esc ones
[21:47] <alkisg> Orvalvisje: yes it's a terminal command that will show us your language settings
[21:47] <skinux> IT seemed to have happened when I pressed ctrl and an arrow key
[21:51] <skinux> Hmm. I don't know how , but I fixed it.
[21:51] <skinux> Now, I'm wondering how to make a setting disabling my internal NIC
[23:11] <clausen> My laptop won't boot anymore -- it drops to a busybox shell.  Specifically, it can't mount root.  When I try to mount root by hand, it says "Invalid argument".
[23:11] <clausen> Any idea what this could mean?
[23:13] <jer> clausen, sounds like the filesystem is corrupted -- in the sense that where /dev/whatever (your root disk) points at (which offset on disk) is either wrong, or contains a value that isn't expected for a header of a filesystem of that type
[23:14] <TJ-> clausen: what happened in terms of software updates/installs just before the last reboot/poweroff when it did work correctly?
[23:14] <clausen> TJ-, I was using it immediately before.  I only use the laptop infrequently, so I had just done a whole lot of updates (including kernel/initramfs)
[23:15] <clausen> jer, possible, but seems unlikely because it worked immediately before, and I wasn't doing any IO at all
[23:15] <Zaliek> Are you using LVM or encryption for root?
[23:15] <clausen> Zaliek, yes, both
[23:15] <TJ-> clausen: OK. Reboot, press Escape key to get the GRUB boot menu, choose the "Advanced" sub-menu, then choose an older kernel version, and try starting with that
[23:16] <clausen> TJ-, I tried that, but it doesn't help
[23:16] <Zaliek> So you decrypted the partition first, then activated the volume group?
[23:16] <TJ-> clausen: did you try all older kernels, and did you try a Recovery option?
[23:16] <clausen> Zaliek, yes, the decryption step works
[23:16] <TJ-> clausen: try "vgchange -ay"
[23:16] <clausen> it fails on mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /root
[23:17] <TJ-> clausen: then "ls /dev/mapper/" and see if you see that listed
[23:17] <clausen> TJ-, yes, it's there
[23:17] <clausen> and I can cat it
[23:17] <clausen> just not mount it
[23:17] <TJ-> clausen: "fsck /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root"
[23:17] <clausen> there's no fsck in busybox :(
[23:18] <TJ-> fsck is in the initrd
[23:18] <clausen> not in the one I have
[23:18] <TJ-> clausen: which Ubuntu release is it?
[23:18] <clausen> I think it's 15.10
[23:18] <clausen> but I can't remember
[23:19] <clausen> (I don't know how to check!)
[23:19] <clausen> (given that I can't even mount my root filesystem to look)
[23:19] <TJ-> clausen: try "/sbin/fsck.ext4"
[23:20] <clausen> TJ-, no, nothing :(
[23:20] <TJ-> clausen: these tools are installed in the initrd.img, because they are needed to check the root file-system before it is mounted
[23:20] <clausen> TJ-, I thought that root was mounted read-only...
[23:20] <clausen> and then the tools from root were used to check it?
[23:21] <clausen> anyway, "find|grep fsck" turns up nothing
[23:21] <TJ-> clausen: GRUB loads kernel and initial ramdisk into memory, kernel starts executing /init (an sh script) in the initrd, which has other tools sufficient to mount the root file-system. /init eventually pivots to the real root FS
[23:22] <TJ-> clausen: I'm thinking the initrd.img is corrupt, possibly because /boot/ ran out of space when the new kernels were installed
[23:22] <clausen> TJ-, well, there are enough tools to mount root -- just not fsck
[23:22] <clausen> TJ-, but that would be quite a coincidence for both the old and new to both be corrupt!
[23:22] <TJ-> clausen: what does "cat /proc/cmdline" report?
[23:23] <TJ-> clausen: not always, update-initramfs is called to regenerate initrd.img's when some packages are upgraded
[23:23] <clausen> BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.16.0-36-generic.efi.signed root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro
[23:23] <clausen> update-initramfs is called even for old kernels that are already installed?
[23:23] <TJ-> clausen: OK, so this is a UEFI secure boot
[23:23] <clausen> right
[23:24] <TJ-> clausen: it can be in some circumstances, but without knowing which packages got upgraded it's hard to know right now.
[23:24] <clausen> also, the installation ISO I used doesn't work anymore
[23:24] <clausen> (it crashes on the language menu)
[23:24] <clausen> otherwise, I would have used fsck from that :(
[23:24] <TJ-> clausen: my suggestion would be to boot from a USB LiveISO image so you can fix this with all tools available
[23:25] <TJ-> clausen: what make/model of PC?
[23:25] <clausen> it's a Bay Trail architecture
[23:25] <clausen> which is a funny 32-bit firmware but 64-bit OS configuration
[23:25] <clausen> ASUS EeeBook
[23:25] <clausen> complete pain to work with
[23:26] <clausen> I had to hack the Ubuntu ISO to even get it to boot
[23:26] <TJ-> clausen: yes, I know; that's why I asked because I have a vague memory of this issue some time ago too
[23:26] <clausen> so, broken initramfs doesn't explain why mount fails
[23:26] <clausen> (it only would explain why fsck is missing)
[23:27] <clausen> there ought to be a good reason!
[23:27] <clausen> so, USB LiveISO is an option, but a very painful one
[23:27] <clausen> it would also force me to throw away the machine at the end
[23:28] <clausen> (I only use this machine as a vault for storing private keys)
[23:28] <TJ-> mount will fail if the file-system is broken; we need fsck to check it
[23:28] <clausen> aha
[23:28] <clausen> perhaps we can force it to mount, despite it being dirty?
[23:28] <TJ-> clausen: check if the kernel is reporting a FS problem: "dmesg"
[23:29] <TJ-> clausen: the last few entries should be the most relevant
[23:29] <clausen> TJ-: dmesg has no information about mounting at all
[23:30] <TJ-> clausen: find out what file-system is in that LV: "blkid /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root"
[23:30] <clausen> TJ-, blkid comes up empty!
[23:31] <TJ-> clausen: does it work correctly for /dev/sda1 (I'm assuming that is the EFI system partition!)
[23:32] <clausen> yes, it works for other things
[23:32] <clausen> just not my root filesystem!
[23:32] <TJ-> clausen: seems like the root FS has been corrupted then, as well as fsck being mysteriously missing
[23:32] <clausen> right
[23:32] <clausen> quite a coincidence
[23:32] <clausen> could be an attack
[23:33] <TickerTape> well lets face it the main use case for compiler on target is you couldn't get cross compilation (the right way to do things) to work, right, right?
[23:33] <TJ-> probably caused by the same issue, whatever it was.
[23:33] <clausen> the machine is in such poor shape, I can imagine an attack accidently hosing the machine rather than working
[23:33] <clausen> I'm suspicious -- a bug in update-initramfs isn't going to corrupt the root filesystem
[23:33] <clausen> they are quite orthogonal code paths
[23:34] <TJ-> clausen: you'd need to boot a liveISO environment and run tools on it to figure out the extent of the problem
[23:34] <clausen> TJ-, agreed
[23:34] <clausen> thanks for suggestion blkid
[23:34] <clausen> it's convinced me that there's no clever trick that's going to fix this
[23:34] <clausen> it's fundamentally broken
[23:34] <TJ-> clausen: no bug; I was on about running out of disk space on /boot/ causing update-initramfs to only generate a partial initrd.img
[23:35] <clausen> TJ-, but how would that corrupt the root file system?
[23:35] <clausen> btw, there was plenty of free space
[23:35] <clausen> there's almost nothing on the hard disk
[23:35] <clausen> just a few private keys
[23:35] <clausen> and besides, that wouldn't break blkid
[23:36] <clausen> I think the most likely explanation is an attack gone wrong
[23:36] <TJ-> clausen:  I'm not saying it was out of space, but it's a common one that causes weirdness for boot failures/initrd. The other possibility is the system powered off before it had completed writing data back to disk
[23:36] <clausen> TJ-, but again, that wouldn't lead to a corrupt superblock
[23:37] <TJ-> clausen: it does, frequently. If you had access to an fsck you could try alternate SBs
[23:37] <clausen> TJ-, how so?
[23:37] <clausen> I can manually find backup superblocks with dd
[23:37] <clausen> it's a good idea
[23:37] <clausen> let me try it
[23:38] <TJ-> is /sbin/dumpe2fs there?
[23:38] <TJ-> it should be in the initrd.img
[23:38] <clausen> yes it is!
[23:38] <clausen> who would have thought...
[23:38] <TJ-> e2fsck should be there to
[23:39] <TJ-> I'm looking at an initrd.img now to check what to expect, so if you have any questions...
[23:39] <clausen> thanks!
[23:39] <clausen> I need to figure out where the superblock is...
[23:39] <clausen> -o superblock=NNN
[23:39] <clausen> for dumpe2fs
[23:40] <TJ-> try just dumpe2fs -h
[23:40] <qxt> I was running ubuntu server that I ssh'd into. Just installed unity. Even though my password works when I ssh into my computer the password does not work when I try to log in via GUI now
[23:41] <TJ-> see if it finds anything at all
[23:41] <clausen> TJ-, I need to tell it where to look
[23:41] <clausen> writing a shell-script now...
[23:41] <clausen> to keep trying different blocks
[23:41] <qxt> Wondering if the lightdm is using the wrong keyboard?
[23:42] <TJ-> clausen: why not just insert a USB device that has a plain Ubuntu install on, and then chroot into that, and use the full range of tools?
[23:43] <TJ-> clausen: just thought, what if it isn't ext4? if the /sbin/fsck.ext4 isn't there maybe some other file-system's tool is, to give a clue as to what FS it is suppposed to be
[23:44] <TJ-> clausen: I notice also there should be /etc/e2fsck.conf
[23:44] <clausen> TJ-, it can't see my USB CD drive
[23:45] <clausen> TJ-, no /etc/e2fsck.conf here
[23:45] <clausen> bingo, found a backup superblock at 32768
[23:46] <clausen> hmmm, dumpe2fs seems to be in an infinite loop
[23:46] <TJ-> clausen: fingers crossed, but why no ext tools? that's weird to say the least
[23:46] <TJ-> clausen: dmesg showing any I/O errors ?
[23:46] <clausen> it's going too fast to see
[23:47] <clausen> but it looks like the same numbers over and over again
[23:47] <TJ-> clausen: dmesg should exit once it's shown the log. You could do "dmesg -C" to clear the buffer, then 'dmesg' will only be showing new relevant messages
[23:54] <clausen> TJ-, the fs is extremely fragmented, which would explain why dumpe2fs took forever
[23:55] <TJ-> clausen: if it's almost empty that doesn't make sense
[23:55] <clausen> TJ-, could be logs?
[23:56] <TJ-> if there's space data is going to be written almost sequentially, although the journal / metadata can get around a bit
[23:57] <clausen> some kind of log rotation?
[23:57] <clausen> (hard to believe...)