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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:51
zmoylan-pio/10:05
thelinuxbox\o/10:05
brobostigono/10:20
thelinuxbox\o/10:26
penguin42right that's my mums box converted from 32 to 64 so she can run skype again18:00
zmoylan-piponders how much faster my 8bit computers felt...18:01
penguin42oh they did18:04
penguin42notes that while it's possible to do a 32->64 convert of ubuntu without a reinstall it might not be any easier - still the wonders of multiarch are nice18:04
penguin42oh and the definition of possible does require a bit of dpkg magic, but actually no forces; apt isn't confident enough to do it18:06
directhexyou're braver than me18:36
penguin42well it was either that or a reinsall18:41
penguin42t18:41
penguin42the scarier bits are things like   apt install apt:amd64   and then cleaning up the mess18:49
daftykinssurely the time would've been better spent doing the full reinstall since there'll be an inevitable EOL date eventually19:03
daftykinsan upgrade from that must be a recipe for disaster :)19:03
penguin42I think it's now pretty much indistinguishable from a 64 bit native install - there's no 32 bit packages left (or only one or two)19:30
penguin42dpkg-print-architecture says amd6419:30
penguin42apt is happy, so I don't think it should be a problem19:31
daftykinsah i thought it remained a mix of some kind19:31
penguin42I think even a mix would be legal/work probably - multiarch is legal in debian; really the hard problem is just getting over the hump of the core packages that apt doesn't like uninstalling (but dpkg is fine with it as long as it's being replaced by the same package)19:35
penguin42oh and packages that have broken multiarch19:35
foobarryjust bought a new phone for the missus19:41
daftykinsbelated gift eh? ;)19:41
foobarryhanging on to reach 4yrs for my one19:41
foobarryapparently phones don't count as presents, rather essentials19:41
foobarrygot a huawei p8 lite 2017. £129 for a HD screen , 3gb ram, NFC, fingerprint reader etc19:42
zmoylan-pioften get a good price after christmas for phones19:43
daftykinsmmm, ongoing OS support is always the true clincher19:43
penguin42there's a theory the newer android split should make that easier19:48
penguin42we'll see19:48
foobarrythere's talk that lineage isn't availbale for kirin processors?19:49
daftykinsnever heard of kirin19:50
zmoylan-pithis friday my phone is reminding me it will be 14 years since i got my first smart phone a nokia 3650...19:50
penguin42daftykins: It's Huawei's SoC19:51
daftykinsah didn't know they were doing their own19:51
penguin42looks like it's standard Cortex cores19:53
foobarrythis could be a blocker for me getting one19:53
daftykinshttps://imgur.com/a/mwDBC - got a PC game running with HDR23:36
penguin42why such a difference?23:56

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