[09:51] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:05] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[10:05] <thelinuxbox> \o/
[10:20] <brobostigon> o/
[10:26] <thelinuxbox> \o/
[18:00] <penguin42> right that's my mums box converted from 32 to 64 so she can run skype again
[18:01] <zmoylan-pi> ponders how much faster my 8bit computers felt...
[18:04] <penguin42> oh they did
[18:04] <penguin42> notes that while it's possible to do a 32->64 convert of ubuntu without a reinstall it might not be any easier - still the wonders of multiarch are nice
[18:06] <penguin42> oh and the definition of possible does require a bit of dpkg magic, but actually no forces; apt isn't confident enough to do it
[18:36] <directhex> you're braver than me
[18:41] <penguin42> well it was either that or a reinsall
[18:41] <penguin42> t
[18:49] <penguin42> the scarier bits are things like   apt install apt:amd64   and then cleaning up the mess
[19:03] <daftykins> surely the time would've been better spent doing the full reinstall since there'll be an inevitable EOL date eventually
[19:03] <daftykins> an upgrade from that must be a recipe for disaster :)
[19:30] <penguin42> I think it's now pretty much indistinguishable from a 64 bit native install - there's no 32 bit packages left (or only one or two)
[19:30] <penguin42> dpkg-print-architecture says amd64
[19:31] <penguin42> apt is happy, so I don't think it should be a problem
[19:31] <daftykins> ah i thought it remained a mix of some kind
[19:35] <penguin42> I think even a mix would be legal/work probably - multiarch is legal in debian; really the hard problem is just getting over the hump of the core packages that apt doesn't like uninstalling (but dpkg is fine with it as long as it's being replaced by the same package)
[19:35] <penguin42> oh and packages that have broken multiarch
[19:41] <foobarry> just bought a new phone for the missus
[19:41] <daftykins> belated gift eh? ;)
[19:41] <foobarry> hanging on to reach 4yrs for my one
[19:41] <foobarry> apparently phones don't count as presents, rather essentials
[19:42] <foobarry> got a huawei p8 lite 2017. £129 for a HD screen , 3gb ram, NFC, fingerprint reader etc
[19:43] <zmoylan-pi> often get a good price after christmas for phones
[19:43] <daftykins> mmm, ongoing OS support is always the true clincher
[19:48] <penguin42> there's a theory the newer android split should make that easier
[19:48] <penguin42> we'll see
[19:49] <foobarry> there's talk that lineage isn't availbale for kirin processors?
[19:50] <daftykins> never heard of kirin
[19:50] <zmoylan-pi> this friday my phone is reminding me it will be 14 years since i got my first smart phone a nokia 3650...
[19:51] <penguin42> daftykins: It's Huawei's SoC
[19:51] <daftykins> ah didn't know they were doing their own
[19:53] <penguin42> looks like it's standard Cortex cores
[19:53] <foobarry> this could be a blocker for me getting one
[23:36] <daftykins> https://imgur.com/a/mwDBC - got a PC game running with HDR
[23:56] <penguin42> why such a difference?