[00:39] <tsimonq2> wxl: Around?
[00:40] <wxl> tsimonq2: unfortunately, more than i would like
[00:40] <tsimonq2> wxl: heh
[00:40] <wxl> well, maybe the roundness isn't the problem
[00:40] <wxl> so much as the total diameter
[00:40] <tsimonq2> O_o
[00:40] <tsimonq2> wxl: So for LFNW, you coming?
[00:41] <wxl> well i'm still waiting for canonical to write me back but i hope so!~
[00:41] <tsimonq2> wxl: Who did you email to get the booth last year?
[00:41] <wxl> you just do it all online
[00:42] <valorie> ah, I've not done that
[00:42] <tsimonq2> Does sponsor@linuxfestnorthwest.org sound right?
[00:42] <valorie> I did it last year I think?
[00:42] <tsimonq2> valorie: Which is why I wanna get it out of the way :)
[00:42] <valorie> ok, awesome
[00:42] <tsimonq2> Hmm, I don't remember if wxl or valorie did it, but I thought it was wxl?
[00:42] <wxl> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSckSCNmROlwreqR1djaDu8zfjnnHxy5zD9HSjw89RbG_r2Dgg/viewform
[00:42] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[00:43] <tsimonq2> Oh
[00:43] <tsimonq2> Ok
[00:43] <tsimonq2> I'll fill it out
[00:43] <wxl> was last year when i kind of did all the legwork to get the funding for you and scarlett valorie?
[00:43] <wxl> or am i thinking of something else?
[00:43] <valorie> scarlett hasn't come for a few years
[00:43] <wxl> tsimonq2: i remember popey talking about whether or not canonical could sponsor one of the parties
[00:44]  * wxl sure misses scarlett.
[00:44] <valorie> but you were a huge help then, yes
[00:44] <valorie> ooo
[00:44] <wxl> well at least i remember something right
[00:44] <tsimonq2> wxl: I thought that ended up being a "no" because popey and Wimpress couldn't come.
[00:44] <valorie> that would be Canonical though
[00:44] <valorie> not us
[00:44] <wxl> ah ok
[00:44] <valorie> we just need a table
[00:44] <wxl> right
[00:44] <wxl> yes yes
[00:44] <valorie> not to be a sponsor
[00:44] <wxl> you're right good point
[00:44] <tsimonq2> I haven't met Scarlett but she sounds super friendly :)
[00:44] <wxl> scarlett is like a lot of the kubuntu community: darn good people.
[00:44] <tsimonq2> valorie: right which is why I suggested sponsor@linuxfestnorthwest.org because it's in https://res.cloudinary.com/hcgshkmdf/image/upload/v1509665319/awe6rj3o8mfewhqkcvbg.pdf
[00:45] <wxl> admittedly that works, too
[00:45] <tsimonq2> wxl, valorie: Mind doing some digging to see 1) Who did it last year for us and 2) What the email was?
[00:45] <valorie> doing it now
[00:45] <tsimonq2> Like, I dunno what I should plan on saying :)
[00:45] <tsimonq2> Ok cool cool
[00:46] <wxl> if that was last year when i helped i'm almost 100% sure i did it
[00:46] <wxl> i nwhich case, i did it all online
[00:47] <tsimonq2> wxl: Well remember that last year was when you reserved the hotel room but last minute as we were walking in the door had the names on it be transferred to me and ahoneybun, and they let me sign anyways for the room even though I'm not 18 yet :)
[00:50] <valorie> well phooey, they have changed stuff on the website
[00:51] <valorie> i'll write to the list or tweet at someone etc.
[00:51] <tsimonq2> Ok
[01:03] <valorie> dinner
[01:03] <valorie> will finish when I return
[03:30] <tsimonq2> valorie: Thanks for the email!
[03:31] <tsimonq2> valorie, acheronuk: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2017-December/001118.html
[03:35] <valorie> what email?
[03:36] <valorie> I just sent one to the fest-list if that's what you are talking about?
[03:36] <valorie> interesting about putting the packaging in git
[03:36] <valorie> don't we already do that in Kubuntu?
[03:37] <valorie> since years ago
[03:42] <tsimonq2> valorie: Yeah I was talking about the fest email
[03:42] <tsimonq2> valorie: But our seeds, the base which makes up kubuntu-meta, has always been in Bazaar.
[03:43] <tsimonq2> valorie: Lubuntu's going to be the first to say "bye bye!"
[03:43] <valorie> ah, OK
[03:43] <valorie> color me impressed that you are on fest-list
[03:43] <tsimonq2> I didn't even know I was there XD
[03:44] <tsimonq2> But I guess I subscribed at one point
[03:44] <valorie> lol
[03:45] <tsimonq2> valorie: I'm (obviously) +1 to converting to Git, although if you think Kubuntu should do something similar, I'd like a +1 from at minimum acheronuk :)
[03:45] <valorie> yeah
[03:46] <valorie> seems like getting everything into git is a plus
[03:46] <tsimonq2> I agree
[03:46] <tsimonq2> And I'm working with gilir to see if we can convert *all* the Lubuntu things over.
 I should he going to LFNW
 *be
 Would be great to see you there!
 would it?
 ...yes?
[21:24] <valorie> ooo, ahoneybun, what great news!
[21:25] <valorie> I'm gonna assume you will be at a different booth though!
[21:25] <wxl> but with free computers for us
[21:25] <valorie> rofl
[21:25] <valorie> of course!
[21:25] <valorie> well, I already have mine and don't need or want another
[21:25] <wxl> you have a 76?
[21:26] <ahoneybun> Valorie does
[21:27] <valorie> yep, got it last year just before LFNW
[21:27] <valorie> the oryx
[21:27] <valorie> too big to bring along
[21:27] <wxl> wow wish i could afford the one i want :)
[21:27] <wxl> i got an hp envy for xmas
 So today I got a matrix.org account, I searched for Kubuntu, and er nothing 😮
[21:50] <wxl> you CAN just join #freenode_#channelname:matrix.org
[21:51] <wxl> but if someone wants to make a room and bridge it to the channel, it will essentially result in the same thing, only it will be easier to find i guess?
[21:54] <ricktimmis[m]> Stone the crows, it looks like it worked !!!
[21:54] <valorie> hey ricktimmis[m]!
[21:54] <ricktimmis[m]> Arrrgh!! Hi a cool is that 😁
[21:55] <ricktimmis[m]> Hey
[21:55] <ricktimmis[m]> I also pleased
[21:55] <valorie> one thing that's nice is that tab-complete works for matrix accounts
[21:55] <wxl> see? easy
[21:55] <wxl> yep
[21:55] <wxl> and you can see the users on irc
[21:55] <wxl> as opposed to who knows who si on telegram
[21:55] <wxl> could be a bunch of trolls
[21:55] <wxl> bonus points if you figure out how to auth to services, ricktimmis[m] :)
[21:56] <wxl> (clue: yes, it's totally possibly and not very hard)
[21:56] <ricktimmis[m]> Not sure I even understand what you mean
[21:57] <wxl> do you have a nickserv account?
[21:57] <ricktimmis[m]> I do
[21:58] <ricktimmis[m]> #freenode_nickserve identify rhiali981
[21:58] <wxl> so when you connect to that account with nickserv you're auth(enticating) to (nick)services
[21:58] <wxl> oh no :(
[21:58] <wxl> that's not how you do it unfortunatley.... especially when it means leaking your password to a public channel :(
[21:59] <ricktimmis[m]> Don't worry that's a bogus pass
[21:59] <wxl> ok, well, you're on the right track
[21:59] <valorie> right, rhiali981
[21:59] <valorie> lol
[21:59] <wxl> you DO need to figure out how to message nickserv as your matrix user and do that very same thing
[22:00] <wxl> don't forget to also give it the group command so it registeres your matrix nick (ricktimmis[m]) under your regular nickserv account
[22:01] <ricktimmis[m]> Ah nevermind
[22:01] <valorie> you can use /msg nickserv help group
[22:01] <valorie> or whatever command
[22:01] <ricktimmis[m]> I'm way to old to even consider work that stuff out worth while
[22:01] <valorie> pffff
[22:02] <ricktimmis[m]> You can all feel it's me by the grammar, and typos
[22:02] <valorie> you ain't older than ME
[22:02] <wxl>  /alias whios whois
[22:02] <wxl> ^^ speaking of which i just made that
[22:04] <ricktimmis[m]> Lol
[22:04] <wxl> i also have: /alias ls names
[22:04] <wxl> cuz that happens a lot
[22:05] <ricktimmis[m]> Anyway hope everyone is having a good Christmas holidays
[22:05] <valorie> so far, so good!
[22:05] <valorie> snow is melting though
[22:05] <wxl> my fam is sick, otherwise good
[22:05] <valorie> how are you, ricktimmis[m]?
[22:05] <wxl> tho not actually on holiday
[22:05] <valorie> ewww
[22:05] <valorie> wxl: sorry to hear that
[22:06] <wxl> it's ok, these things happen
[22:06] <valorie> preparing to go up the cabin for the long weekend
[22:06] <valorie> Friday I hope
[22:06] <wxl> $daughter was at least well enough to go with me to our reservation at the breitenbush hot springs resort on xmas day
[22:06] <valorie> so i can spend more time with Oscar
[22:06] <wxl> nice
[22:06] <wxl> is that $hubby?
[22:06] <valorie> my grandson
[22:06] <wxl> ah cool
[22:06] <ricktimmis[m]> Ah, it's been not so good, been running crazy with the trouble around my mum, then I got pneumonia from the hospital, which smashed me for Christmas.
[22:06] <valorie> husband is on the couch next to me now
[22:07] <valorie> ricktimmis[m]:
[22:07] <valorie> :(
[22:07] <wxl> yikes sorry ricktimmis[m]. hope you feel better.
[22:07] <valorie> is your mum recovering?
[22:07] <ricktimmis[m]> I'm getting better, hence why I am very back playing with tech
[22:07] <valorie> and are YOU
[22:08] <valorie> pneumonia is nothing to play with
[22:08] <ricktimmis[m]> My mum is improved quite a lot
[22:08] <valorie> I've had both the shots
[22:08] <valorie> that's good to hear
[22:08] <wxl> whatever we got, doc thinks is not the flu but a random virus
[22:08] <valorie> I hear norovirus is going around again
[22:09] <valorie> got that once and that is enough, thank you
[22:09] <wxl> i managed to kick it one day thanks to phở gà
[22:09] <wxl> whatever it was
[22:09] <wxl> i wonder if that's what it is :(
[22:09] <ricktimmis[m]> Fortunately it's got that, cuz that is based sickness
[22:09] <valorie> if they are violently running at both ends, that's it
[22:09] <wxl> oh, nope, not that. "winter vomiting bug" doesn't sound right :)
[22:10] <valorie> we all got it on the same day, and there are only two bathrooms
[22:10] <valorie> ....
[22:10] <ricktimmis[m]> No I got massive temperature, fever, shakes, pains, weakness
[22:10] <wxl> not sure whether to laugh or cry about that one
[22:10] <ricktimmis[m]> Short breathe
[22:10] <wxl> is the fever broken at least, ricktimmis[m] ?
[22:10] <ricktimmis[m]> Absolutely exhausted
[22:11] <ricktimmis[m]> Yes fever broke boxing Day
[22:11]  * valorie slides over some hot lemon juice with honey + rum or whatever
[22:11] <wxl> you should be on the mend then
[22:11] <valorie> ginger can be nice too, esp. if you are feeling cold
[22:11] <wxl> unfortunately for my ladies, they've broken the temp but still utterly congested, coughing, can't get the phlegm out, still feeling run down :(
[22:11] <ricktimmis[m]> Yes, i am getting better
[22:12] <wxl> i advise elderberry, personally. nothing better, imho.
[22:12] <valorie> I've not tried elderberry
[22:12] <wxl> something bone brothy for the calories
[22:12] <ricktimmis[m]> wxl: elderberry is very good
[22:12] <valorie> I have some elderberry trees but the berries have long been in the bird's bellies
[22:13] <wxl> out of all the things i have tried, elderberry is the one thing that has been most reliable, not only as a general immune booster prior to getting sick, but also to shorten the length of the illness
[22:13] <ricktimmis[m]> I have a few bottles of 2006 wine left
[22:13] <wxl> ooooooo
[22:13] <wxl> "your mother reeks of elderberries"
[22:13] <ricktimmis[m]> Lol
[22:13] <wxl> aw foo i got the quote wrong didn't i
[22:14]  * wxl needs to watch monty python again
[22:14] <ricktimmis[m]> Ah it's good I got it
[22:14] <wxl> :)
[22:17] <wxl> wait valorie did you say trees? i thought they were more bushy
[22:18] <wxl> i was thinking about planting some in the spring and have a go at making my own tinctures
[22:18] <ricktimmis[m]> They are small trees really, but they grow real fast
[22:19] <ricktimmis[m]> Watch out because there are varieties
[22:19] <wxl> varietals that taste bad, don't work as well, take over your whole bloomin yard, or what? :)
[22:20] <valorie> I want to cut the ones we have and make them more bushy, yeah
[22:20] <valorie> I don't think I planted these
[22:20] <wxl> wonder if you can grow them from cuttings
[22:20] <wxl> if so maybe i'll have you just bring some over to lfnw :)
[22:20] <valorie> or if I did, I got them from the woods
[22:20] <ricktimmis[m]> You want the ones that the blossoms smell sweet, and are plentiful
[22:20] <ricktimmis[m]> Yes that is what I did
[22:21] <valorie> these have red berries and the birds love them
[22:21] <wxl> oh did you need to use rooting compound or are they naturally rooty like willows?
[22:21] <ricktimmis[m]> Find a really good tree, i.e watch it a couple of years
[22:21] <ricktimmis[m]> Then in spring, when the leaves are on, take cuttings
[22:22] <valorie> ok, elderflower vs elderberry
[22:22] <valorie> I have elderberry
[22:22] <ricktimmis[m]> They will root in water, but if you add a little rooting hormone, they go well
[22:22] <wxl> yeah oh i'm referring to elderberry
[22:22] <wxl> yeah elderflower is delicious but i've never used it medicinally
[22:23] <ricktimmis[m]> Oh I like to use both
[22:23] <ricktimmis[m]> Flowers white wine
[22:23] <wxl> oh hm maybe i'll plant both :)
[22:23] <ricktimmis[m]> Betty's red wine
[22:23] <valorie> I've heard of wine from both, yeah
[22:23] <wxl> yeah
[22:23] <ricktimmis[m]> Berries are the anti-viral
[22:24] <ricktimmis[m]> You can do wine, jam, our just juice
[22:24] <wxl> i have a quince. would be fun to play with mixing it with elderberry and/or elderflower
[22:24] <ricktimmis[m]> For medics don't make wine
[22:24] <wxl> at least not the sober ones XD
[23:02] <valorie> this is really good!
[23:02] <valorie> https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/4077523/Diversity-Inclusion-in-Open-Source
[23:02] <valorie> dooot