[04:18] <Guest17041> hello
[08:41] <enen_7> anybody?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[16:17] <code_> hello? how i can start a hotspot using the network applet on Plasma desktop? i can see the hotspot in the connection editor but it doesn't appear on the network applet so i cannot start it
[16:21] <code_> i am on ubuntu 17.10 and installed kubuntu-desktop from the ppa. I can start the hotspot normally from the network applet on a gnome session but cannot do the same from Plasma
[16:26] <BluesKaj> code_, check for network-manager on plasma/terminal
[16:27] <BluesKaj> also, make sure your plasma packages are up to date
[16:53] <obert_> hello, someone have a recomendation for a laptop with SSD, kubuntu and vm please?
[16:53] <obert_> I would to spend about 500 euro
[17:20] <BluesKaj> obert_, we don't answer polls here, google is your friend
[21:30] <esperos> index
[21:30] <esperos> help info
[22:59] <BoneTone> is there much difference between installing kde on an existing ubuntu system and installing kubuntu outright?
[23:03] <valorie> BoneTone: I think so
[23:03] <valorie> when I've tried "installing over" I end up with gnomish artifacts all over the place
[23:03] <valorie> plus a bunch of apps I don't like
[23:04] <BoneTone> yeah, you'd have to go and change default apps, etc.  but basically, it's just the DE & default apps that change, nothing missing from ability to run new hardware, etc.?
[23:04] <valorie> it certainly can be done successfully, but we test our ISO as it is
[23:04] <valorie> the core is the same
[23:04] <BoneTone> right, i mean, that's probably the direction I'm going, install the variation directly
[23:05] <valorie> you could probably do ubuntu-server + Plasma
[23:05] <BoneTone> that's what I thought, I just wanted to confirm
[23:05] <valorie> but still, I like our setup
[23:05] <valorie> and as I said, that's what we test
[23:05] <BoneTone> nah, no server, this is for an Intel NUC in the living room as a HTPC
[23:06] <BoneTone> basically debating between kubuntu and lubuntu at this point
[23:07] <BoneTone> i can't stand unity, especially for a htpc
[23:07] <valorie> lubuntu is certainly a good alternative
[23:08] <valorie> and if you don't want apps, you are essentially choosing between lxde and plasma
[23:08] <valorie> this isn't religion; choose what you want to work with
[23:11] <BoneTone> oh, yeah, no doubt, i use different environments on different machines, a couple different ones on the same machine sometimes even, just trying to figure out what my fiancee will like best in the living room
[23:11] <BoneTone> trying to make the htpc easiest for her
[23:12] <BoneTone> and mainly i wanted to confirm my understanding that kubuntu would still work with the hardware the same as ubuntu