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blackflowThoughts, suggestions?  https://github.com/acheronmedia/ubuntu-bootstrap18:16
ikoniathoughts, don't use it18:41
blackflowikonia: don't use it, or you're not using it so you can't give any thought?18:56
ikoniablackflow: my thoughts are to not use this19:15
blackflowwhy not?19:16
ikonialooks a bad idea,19:25
blackflowikonia: why?19:29
blackflowor are you just giving random, unsubstantiated opinions with zero experience on the subject?19:29
ikoniayou ask for an opinion, I give you my opinion, and you call it random and unsubstantied19:34
blackflowbecause you gave no opinion. if you think it's bad, please elaborate why.19:37
ikoniaI did give an opinion, I said my opinion is not to use it, it looks a bad idea19:38
ikoniayou could have just asked for more information if you wanted19:39
ikoniaI can't be bothered any more19:39
blackflowgood idea.20:10
ikonia(sorry that wasn't meant to sound as door slamming as it came across)20:18
blackflowI'm okay with criticism if it's "it's bad because x, y, z". saying "it's just a bad idea", with no explanation as to why you think that is just... empty words.20:26
ikoniathats fine, and you just had to ask for it to be expanded on20:27
blackflowYes, because when people ask for opinions they don't want to hear proper opinons, just empty "it's good" or "it's bad", and jump right on it as a legit answer.20:40
blackflowespecially when someone says "don't use it", you ask "why" and they don't give an explanation, just another empty "bad idea". Perhaps I should've written a printed letter, kindly asking for your highness' thoughts on the matter, if, perhaps, you'd kindly elaborate on your very thoughtful and descriptive suggestion of "it's bad idea".20:43
ikoniablackflow: you'd be surprised how many people want a yes/no answer "is this a good idea"20:44
ikoniablackflow: however, I'm aware of your contirbution in the BSD world in the past, so I fully appreciate you'd value a proper discussion on it20:44
blackflownot neccessarily a discussion. but at least more than "hurr, bad."20:52

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