[18:16] <blackflow> Thoughts, suggestions?  https://github.com/acheronmedia/ubuntu-bootstrap
[18:41] <ikonia> thoughts, don't use it
[18:56] <blackflow> ikonia: don't use it, or you're not using it so you can't give any thought?
[19:15] <ikonia> blackflow: my thoughts are to not use this
[19:16] <blackflow> why not?
[19:25] <ikonia> looks a bad idea,
[19:29] <blackflow> ikonia: why?
[19:29] <blackflow> or are you just giving random, unsubstantiated opinions with zero experience on the subject?
[19:34] <ikonia> you ask for an opinion, I give you my opinion, and you call it random and unsubstantied
[19:37] <blackflow> because you gave no opinion. if you think it's bad, please elaborate why.
[19:38] <ikonia> I did give an opinion, I said my opinion is not to use it, it looks a bad idea
[19:39] <ikonia> you could have just asked for more information if you wanted
[19:39] <ikonia> I can't be bothered any more
[20:10] <blackflow> good idea.
[20:18] <ikonia> (sorry that wasn't meant to sound as door slamming as it came across)
[20:26] <blackflow> I'm okay with criticism if it's "it's bad because x, y, z". saying "it's just a bad idea", with no explanation as to why you think that is just... empty words.
[20:27] <ikonia> thats fine, and you just had to ask for it to be expanded on
[20:40] <blackflow> Yes, because when people ask for opinions they don't want to hear proper opinons, just empty "it's good" or "it's bad", and jump right on it as a legit answer.
[20:43] <blackflow> especially when someone says "don't use it", you ask "why" and they don't give an explanation, just another empty "bad idea". Perhaps I should've written a printed letter, kindly asking for your highness' thoughts on the matter, if, perhaps, you'd kindly elaborate on your very thoughtful and descriptive suggestion of "it's bad idea".
[20:44] <ikonia> blackflow: you'd be surprised how many people want a yes/no answer "is this a good idea"
[20:44] <ikonia> blackflow: however, I'm aware of your contirbution in the BSD world in the past, so I fully appreciate you'd value a proper discussion on it
[20:52] <blackflow> not neccessarily a discussion. but at least more than "hurr, bad."