/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/12/30/#ubuntu-discuss.txt

jonny1#ubuntu03:24
daftykinsheh03:27
BenderRodriguezdaftykins: tell me something03:48
BenderRodriguezdaftykins: what do you think of Linux03:48
BenderRodriguezLinus*03:48
daftykinsgo away03:49
Bashing-omdaftykins: ^ in the words of W. C. Fields :P04:06
lotuspsychjegood morning to all04:57
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Just in time to enjoy another cuppa motivational fluid :P04:58
lotuspsychjehey Bashing-om how was the night?04:59
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Still s l o w .04:59
lotuspsychjeend of year emptyness04:59
lotuspsychje2 january activity will come back, alcohol washes away :p05:00
Bashing-omLOL05:00
lotuspsychjehaha05:00
lotuspsychjewow look who's back Ben64 awake?05:00
lotuspsychje!info mofo05:04
ubot5Package mofo does not exist in artful05:04
Ben64lotuspsychje: had to rma my cpu05:17
lotuspsychjeBen64: can you still find your #ubuntu users chart url for us?05:18
Ben64oh man idk05:18
Ben64do you have anything to help me grep it05:19
Ben64month, keywords, uh.. other things05:19
lotuspsychjeBen64: crew told us you had something made yourself?05:19
Ben64yeah but its probably online somewhere05:20
lotuspsychjeah kk05:20
Ben64i probably posted it in this channel05:20
Ben64Sep 24 2017 00:32:38 <Ben64>there we go, freshly graphed graph05:21
Ben64guessing september 24th05:21
Ben64https://i.imgur.com/JbW3Ntz.png05:21
lotuspsychjelets c05:22
lotuspsychjecool!05:22
lotuspsychjedax: https://i.imgur.com/JbW3Ntz.png Ben64 graph05:23
Ben64theres official logs though, couldn't someone make one from that05:23
daxlotuspsychje: that's line count, not users. as i think i said already, i found a users graph from another chanop anyway05:24
lotuspsychjedax: ok mate, just wanted to share if it 'was' usefull for you guys05:25
daxline count on the official logs is basically "hey look a fun downwards slide for the last decade with a little extra curve down when we set +r", i pulled them a few days ago05:25
Ben64ooh user count would be interesting to see05:25
dax(the official logs stopped including joins/quits/nicks around 2007, so I can't really make any inferences about before then)05:26
daxs/nicks/parts/05:26
Ben64my logs don't have user counts05:27
daxit's some HTML 5 thing behind a login but the tl;dr is +r took us from about 1750 to about 1100, and we're currently at 1200 after a few days -r05:28
daxmight be higher than 1750, netsplits make it a bit of a mess05:28
daxthe flavor channels had user drops over the same time period and didn't go +r, so goodness only knows where we'll end up05:30
lotuspsychjebionic will solve this for sure05:31
daxi hope so. i'm very impressed with it so far05:31
daxassuming the quirks from the 17.04 -> 17.10 upgrade are all ironed out for 16.04 -> 18.04 upgrades, i think it's gonna be quite a nice release to support05:31
daxnot a lot of shiny new crap, so hopefully a decent amount of polish05:32
dax(from 17.10 to 18.04, that is)05:32
lotuspsychjeyeah05:32
lotuspsychjenew themes gonna do alot i think05:32
lotuspsychjethey trying to get that unity feeling on gnome i think05:32
Ben64how about wayland though05:33
daxnvidia still defaults to xorg i assume. amdgpu's been fine with it, lotuspsychje said he had some performance issues with radeon05:33
lotuspsychjeyeah wayland is another thing they will have to solve big time05:33
daxno idea about intel05:33
lotuspsychjeweird thing is, tested a system with nvidia and that goes smoothly on wayland05:34
Ben64it's been seeming more and more like nvidia is not so good for linux anymore05:34
lotuspsychjethye better fix that stuff05:35
daxit's the same it's always been. nvidia closed-source drivers have good performance but lag behind on shiny new open-developed protocols/ideas05:35
daxthe main difference is that AMD's doing a hell of a job on their open-source side05:35
lotuspsychjeanother issue im worry about, is ubuntu-desktop not to be lightweight anymore as unity?05:36
Ben64ubuntu-desktop was lightweight?05:36
lotuspsychjeyes05:38
lotuspsychjei installed 16.04 an soo many systems05:38
lotuspsychjebest release ever for me05:38
lotuspsychjeand will they leave xorg alive on bionic or not?05:42
lotuspsychjethrilling future for ubuntu05:42
daxi'm assuming it's gonna be the same as it is on 17.1005:42
daxxorg's not dead upstream, so i doubt there's a rush to be rid of it, especially given the nvidia situation05:43
Ben64not sure if i'll upgrade to bionic or not this coming year05:44
lotuspsychjeim running all machines bionic already Ben6405:44
lotuspsychjepre-alpha05:44
Ben64too risky05:44
daxdesktop's on bionic. laptop's on 17.10 and will be on 18.04 when it comes out.05:44
Ben64i'm still trying to get my system stable05:44
lotuspsychjewhy? its rocksolid05:44
daxgonna see if i can ride 18.04 until EOL without getting bored and switcing05:45
lotuspsychjeunless for the lagging mouse/programs on few wayland05:45
dax(spoilers: i won't, i get bored easy)05:45
Ben64new kernel might be nice, but i can get that here on 16.04 anyway05:45
lotuspsychjedax: same here, i refuse to take another flavor and use ubuntu-desktop as daily driver05:45
Ben64i just got 16.04 themed properly too05:46
lotuspsychjelol yeah you spent some deep time on that05:46
Ben64i can even grab windows to resize them05:46
lotuspsychjewow!05:47
Ben64default was 1 pixel border to grab05:47
lotuspsychjeim too curious about the future gnome thing myself..05:47
lotuspsychjeand what will happen to unity..?05:47
lotuspsychjei see mariogrip did another magic trick in #ubports also with unity805:47
lotuspsychjeandroid apps support to come in few weeks for ubuntu touch05:48
lotuspsychjewe aint seen nothing yet guys05:48
Ben64thought touch was ded05:50
lotuspsychjeno05:51
lotuspsychjeits big alive mate05:51
lotuspsychjeeveryone got ubports on his mobile now05:51
lotuspsychjeand 1100 telegram group of devs & users05:51
lotuspsychje#ubports Ben6405:53
Ben64but i just got oreo on my phone05:53
lotuspsychjewhats that06:00
Ben64android oreo06:01
lotuspsychjeah06:01
Ben64it's really nice06:02
Ben64oh yeah i forgot oreo includes the ability to theme06:02
Ben64might have to jump into that now06:02
lotuspsychje:p06:03
Ben64i don't like the light themes in android06:03
lotuspsychjei dont like android at all06:08
lotuspsychjeim too paranoia for it06:08
Bashing-om'Nuff :) .. take care .. g nite \o06:56
lotuspsychjehey EriC^07:31
EriC^heya lotus07:31
lotuspsychjehow are you mate07:31
EriC^good thanks you?07:31
lotuspsychjegreat here EriC^07:32
lotuspsychjemorning alkisg07:33
alkisggood morning lotuspsychje, good morning everyone07:33
lotuspsychjeim looking an easy way to add a picture in outlook mail from ubuntu, for my older aunt that gets confused with adding attachment07:35
lotuspsychjeany ideas i could try?07:35
lotuspsychjeshe's on unity07:35
lotuspsychjecant rightmouse a picture as her email isnt configured locally with thunderbird, only online07:36
alkisgI've switched most schools to thunderbird even for the staff PCs that still use Ubuntu07:36
alkisgSo I haven't seen the Outlook mail client for ages07:36
alkisg that still use Ubuntu ==> sry Windows07:36
lotuspsychjelol07:36
lotuspsychjeeven drag n drop a pic to outlook she cant do..07:37
lotuspsychjeim out of ideas how to make it even more easy07:37
alkisgThunderbird displays attachments inline though, I would imagine outlook would do that too?07:37
ducassemorning, everyone07:37
lotuspsychjehey ducasse morning mate07:37
alkisgThere's right click to the file manager => send email07:38
lotuspsychjealkisg: doesnt that goto thunderbird then?07:38
alkisgThat starts a mail with that file as an attachment07:38
alkisgAh you want it to go to a browser?07:38
lotuspsychjeyeah outlook.com07:38
alkisgI thought you were running the outlook email client, not the browser version07:38
lotuspsychjedont want setup a local client for even more confusing07:39
lotuspsychjeshe got like 1500 emails07:39
lotuspsychjeyou know old users right07:39
alkisgMaybe there's some http://outlook.com?mail=xx&subject=yy&attachment=zz that you could use to open pictures with the browser...07:41
lotuspsychjeill lookup07:41
lotuspsychjethen i was thinking teamviewer, to do it for her...07:42
lotuspsychjebut adding a pic should be the base reason why she has a pc right07:42
lotuspsychjei udnerstand her confusing, cause on outlook when you upload a pic, default is that outlook cloud service to browse in07:43
lotuspsychjeso she says, they asking me for an account, and doesnt understand she needs to browse her pc07:43
BluesKajHiyas all12:45
pauljwhi everyone14:00
BluesKajhi pauljw :-)14:07
pauljwhey BluesKaj :)  staying warm?14:07
BluesKajyeah, it's cool by our stds, but not real cold atm ..slightly below normal14:09
BluesKajbut the deep freeze will spill down again tonight14:11
pauljwyeah, we're going to be getting about 12 days of below freezing temps here, couple of nights below zero.  not crazy about it, but it is what it is.14:20
BluesKajwb pauljw16:56
pauljwthanks, BluesKaj :)16:57

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