/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/12/31/#lubuntu-devel.txt

lubotAlon Ganon was added by: Alon Ganon01:02
lubot<tsimonq2> @Alon Ganon, Hey, welcome! Glad to have you here :)01:02
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @Alon Ganon, o/01:03
lubot<AceHW> So what's the plan for lxqt on Lubuntu?01:04
wxlwe're ditching it01:04
wxlit's no fun any more01:04
lubot<tsimonq2> hahahahahaha01:04
wxlwe're going to use gtk2 foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr01:04
lubot<tsimonq2> Very funny01:04
lubot<AceHW> Is it there yet, if not, will it be on stable?01:04
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, Oh *obviously* /s01:04
lubot<tsimonq2> @AceHW, Yep01:04
lubot<tsimonq2> As a separate edition01:05
lubot<Alon Ganon> Thanks for having me. I’m that guy who was asking a bunch of Lubuntu questions on twitter for my project01:05
lubot<AceHW> @tsimonq2, Oh.01:05
lubot<tsimonq2> @Alon Ganon, Hey, and I was the guy responding to you :)01:05
lubot<AceHW> Any chance Ubuntu won't have problems in LTS release?01:06
wxlyes because everything's always perfect all the time??01:06
lubot<tsimonq2> @AceHW, A very large chance that it will go smoothly tbh01:06
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, Yes absolutely /s01:06
lubot:P01:06
lubot<AceHW> Both Ubuntu and Debian had problems last time, right?01:06
lubot<tsimonq2> ...01:06
wxli agree with @tsimonq2 on that but "won't have problems?" NOTHING is without problems01:06
lubot<tsimonq2> ???01:06
wxlincluding all the commercial options out there01:06
wxlthere's ALWAYS going to be problems01:07
lubot<tsimonq2> ^01:07
lubot<tsimonq2> Right'01:07
wxlwhich is good because that's room for improvement01:07
lubot<tsimonq2> Exactly01:07
wxlwhere's agaida to give us that quote that what's stable is dead, at least according to biology01:07
wxl?01:07
lubot<tsimonq2> XD01:07
wxlanyways i've run "last time's" release for a long while without problems01:08
wxlwell01:08
agaidaone should use quassel and have this in the backlog01:08
wxlwithout anything unusual01:08
wxlproblems happen. but it's ok.01:08
wxlBIG problems are bad problems. but there won't be those.01:08
agaidabut here it is01:08
agaidaThere's this special biologist word we use for "stable". It's "dead". ~ Jack Cohen01:09
wxlhey wait does quassel run in a terminal?01:09
* wxl ducks and is out01:09
agaidawith the irssi plugin - for sure01:09
lubot<tsimonq2> hahahahahahahahaha01:10
lubot<Alon Ganon> I have been really impressed with Lubuntu in the Little I have dabbled. I’ve been using Xubuntu since the craptastic Unity release.01:10
lubot<tsimonq2> Ooh ok01:10
agaidawxl: for you only - https://github.com/phhusson/quassel-irssi01:14
wxl!info linux xenial05:34
ubot93Package linux does not exist in xenial05:34
wxl!info linux-generic xenial05:34
ubot93linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.104.109 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 13 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, armhf, arm64, ppc64el, s390x)05:34
wxl!info linux-generic zesty05:35
ubot93linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.10.0.42.42 (zesty), package size 1 kB, installed size 13 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x)05:35
wxl!info linux-generic artful05:35
ubot93linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.13.0.21.22 (artful), package size 1 kB, installed size 14 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x)05:35
wxl!info linux-generic artful-proposed05:35
ubot93linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.13.0.22.23 (artful-proposed), package size 1 kB, installed size 14 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x)05:35
wxl!info linux-generic zesty-proposed05:35
ubot93linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.10.0.43.43 (zesty-proposed), package size 1 kB, installed size 13 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x)05:35
wxl!info linux-generic bionic05:35
tsimonq2wxl: boooooo use !upkg linux-generic bruv05:36
ubot93linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.13.0.17.18 (bionic), package size 1 kB, installed size 14 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x)05:36
tsimonq2In DDG05:36
tsimonq2!upkg linux-generic in DDG05:36
ubot93tsimonq2: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:36
wxlyeah that's no fun05:36
tsimonq2Bah :P05:36
wxlum05:45
wxl@tsimonq2: why does that info disagree with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux ?05:45
wxli.e. for artful:05:45
wxl 4.13.0-16.19 release (main) 2017-10-1405:45
wxl4.13.0-21.24 security, updates (main) 2017-12-2005:45
wxl4.13.0-22.25 proposed (main) 2017-12-2005:45
wxlbut above is 4.13.0.21.22 main, 4.13.0.22.23 proposed05:45
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, *shrug* but I'd trust Launchpad more05:49
wxlwell yeah it's weird because it's behind on main but ahead on proposed wtf05:49
JackFrosthttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta05:54
tsimonq2wxl: ^^^05:54
wxlum ok05:54
tsimonq2wxl: Kernel metapackages sometimes don't have the same versions as the kernel packages themselves05:55
tsimonq2(they should, I think(05:55
tsimonq2)05:55
wxlconfusing. so linux-generic is right?05:55
wxl(for kernel version)05:55
JackFrostTo quote ubot93: < ubot93> linux-generic (source: linux-meta)05:55
tsimonq2Right, linux-generic is a metapackage05:56
wxloh so linux is correct ok good05:56
wxloh my bionic main still has the Bad Kernel™05:58
tsimonq2wxl: Are You Sure?05:58
wxlyep05:58
wxlfix was in 4.13.0-21.24 and bionic main is 4.13.0-17.2005:58
tsimonq2wxl: You've read changelogs too?05:59
wxlgetting there05:59
wxlyep fix ain't in there05:59
tsimonq2Then go ping someone. :P06:00
wxlyou go ping someone i'm trying to collect this mess of a bug together06:00
tsimonq2¯\_(ツ)_/¯06:00
wxlwait hold on06:00
* wxl grumbles still about launchpad06:00
lubot<VikingRedwolf> (Photo, 720x1280) https://i.imgur.com/bTyNVtv.jpg12:18
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Who needs Android Oreo when you can have better selfies? 😐12:18
lubot<Wolfenprey> @VikingRedwolf, Better? please... I need a miracle.12:37
lubot<VikingRedwolf> 😂12:37
lubot<VikingRedwolf> lies! you're sexy!12:37
lubot<Wolfenprey> "please,  only a human face, no dogs or cats allowed for face detection"12:38
lubot<Wolfenprey> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3258.mp412:38
lubot<VikingRedwolf> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3259.mp412:42
lubot<Wolfenprey> lol12:42
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I just realised there's not a single gtk3 ftp client for linux12:55
agaidaftp is dead13:00
lubot<VikingRedwolf> 😢13:00
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I use it with my phone because kdeconnect doesn't work, and I hate cables13:01
agaidabuy a microsoft lumia :D13:01
lubot<VikingRedwolf> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3260.mp413:01
agaidahrhrhr13:01
wxljust FYI should it ever come up https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/174070418:11
ubot93Launchpad bug 1740704 in Ubuntu QA Website "timestamps are set to a non-UTC timezone" [Undecided, New]18:11
lynorian_nextftp has beenn around too long21:18
lynorian_nextand sucks in some ways21:18
lynorian_nextalso who is this kev bowring person marking all these ubuntu-manual tests needed as invalid?21:18
wxlflocculant. probably the biggest contributor to the testcases21:19
lynorian_nextoh that is flocculant21:20
lynorian_nextok21:20
lynorian_nextjust did not recognize the name21:20
lubot1<VikingRedwolf> @lynorian_next, sftp?21:27
lubot1<VikingRedwolf> ssh?21:27
lubot1<VikingRedwolf> dav?21:27
lynorian_nextyes that still works fine21:27
lynorian_nextor rsync or zsync21:28
lubot1<VikingRedwolf> I need a dav server for me phone then21:28
agaidaone could consider nextcloud21:31
lubot1<VikingRedwolf> that uses internet21:34
lubot1<VikingRedwolf> I need to share things without a cable. and pushbullet and airdroid are shitty21:34
lubot1<VikingRedwolf> kdeconnect is perfect, if it worked21:34
lubot1<Wolfenprey> Happy 2018 to all23:04
lubot1<tsimonq2> Same to you :D23:04
lubot1<Wolfenprey> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3267.mp423:04
lubot1<Netkas> (Sticker, 512x512) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_326823:04

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