[01:02] Alon Ganon was added by: Alon Ganon [01:02] @Alon Ganon, Hey, welcome! Glad to have you here :) [01:03] @Alon Ganon, o/ [01:04] So what's the plan for lxqt on Lubuntu? [01:04] we're ditching it [01:04] it's no fun any more [01:04] hahahahahaha [01:04] we're going to use gtk2 foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr [01:04] Very funny [01:04] Is it there yet, if not, will it be on stable? [01:04] @wxl, Oh *obviously* /s [01:04] @AceHW, Yep [01:05] As a separate edition [01:05] Thanks for having me. I’m that guy who was asking a bunch of Lubuntu questions on twitter for my project [01:05] @tsimonq2, Oh. [01:05] @Alon Ganon, Hey, and I was the guy responding to you :) [01:06] Any chance Ubuntu won't have problems in LTS release? [01:06] yes because everything's always perfect all the time?? [01:06] @AceHW, A very large chance that it will go smoothly tbh [01:06] @wxl, Yes absolutely /s [01:06] :P [01:06] Both Ubuntu and Debian had problems last time, right? [01:06] ... [01:06] i agree with @tsimonq2 on that but "won't have problems?" NOTHING is without problems [01:06] ??? [01:06] including all the commercial options out there [01:07] there's ALWAYS going to be problems [01:07] ^ [01:07] Right' [01:07] which is good because that's room for improvement [01:07] Exactly [01:07] where's agaida to give us that quote that what's stable is dead, at least according to biology [01:07] ? [01:07] XD [01:08] anyways i've run "last time's" release for a long while without problems [01:08] well [01:08] one should use quassel and have this in the backlog [01:08] without anything unusual [01:08] problems happen. but it's ok. [01:08] BIG problems are bad problems. but there won't be those. [01:08] but here it is [01:09] There's this special biologist word we use for "stable". It's "dead". ~ Jack Cohen [01:09] hey wait does quassel run in a terminal? [01:09] * wxl ducks and is out [01:09] with the irssi plugin - for sure [01:10] hahahahahahahahaha [01:10] I have been really impressed with Lubuntu in the Little I have dabbled. I’ve been using Xubuntu since the craptastic Unity release. [01:10] Ooh ok [01:14] wxl: for you only - https://github.com/phhusson/quassel-irssi [05:34] !info linux xenial [05:34] Package linux does not exist in xenial [05:34] !info linux-generic xenial [05:34] linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.104.109 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 13 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, armhf, arm64, ppc64el, s390x) [05:35] !info linux-generic zesty [05:35] linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.10.0.42.42 (zesty), package size 1 kB, installed size 13 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x) [05:35] !info linux-generic artful [05:35] linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.13.0.21.22 (artful), package size 1 kB, installed size 14 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x) [05:35] !info linux-generic artful-proposed [05:35] linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.13.0.22.23 (artful-proposed), package size 1 kB, installed size 14 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x) [05:35] !info linux-generic zesty-proposed [05:35] linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.10.0.43.43 (zesty-proposed), package size 1 kB, installed size 13 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x) [05:35] !info linux-generic bionic [05:36] wxl: boooooo use !upkg linux-generic bruv [05:36] linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.13.0.17.18 (bionic), package size 1 kB, installed size 14 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x) [05:36] In DDG [05:36] !upkg linux-generic in DDG [05:36] tsimonq2: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [05:36] yeah that's no fun [05:36] Bah :P [05:45] um [05:45] @tsimonq2: why does that info disagree with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux ? [05:45] i.e. for artful: [05:45] 4.13.0-16.19 release (main) 2017-10-14 [05:45] 4.13.0-21.24 security, updates (main) 2017-12-20 [05:45] 4.13.0-22.25 proposed (main) 2017-12-20 [05:45] but above is 4.13.0.21.22 main, 4.13.0.22.23 proposed [05:49] @wxl, *shrug* but I'd trust Launchpad more [05:49] well yeah it's weird because it's behind on main but ahead on proposed wtf [05:54] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta [05:54] wxl: ^^^ [05:54] um ok [05:55] wxl: Kernel metapackages sometimes don't have the same versions as the kernel packages themselves [05:55] (they should, I think( [05:55] ) [05:55] confusing. so linux-generic is right? [05:55] (for kernel version) [05:55] To quote ubot93: < ubot93> linux-generic (source: linux-meta) [05:56] Right, linux-generic is a metapackage [05:56] oh so linux is correct ok good [05:58] oh my bionic main still has the Bad Kernel™ [05:58] wxl: Are You Sure? [05:58] yep [05:58] fix was in 4.13.0-21.24 and bionic main is 4.13.0-17.20 [05:59] wxl: You've read changelogs too? [05:59] getting there [05:59] yep fix ain't in there [06:00] Then go ping someone. :P [06:00] you go ping someone i'm trying to collect this mess of a bug together [06:00] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [06:00] wait hold on [06:00] * wxl grumbles still about launchpad [12:18] (Photo, 720x1280) https://i.imgur.com/bTyNVtv.jpg [12:18] Who needs Android Oreo when you can have better selfies? 😐 [12:37] @VikingRedwolf, Better? please... I need a miracle. [12:37] 😂 [12:37] lies! you're sexy! [12:38] "please, only a human face, no dogs or cats allowed for face detection" [12:38] (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3258.mp4 [12:42] (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3259.mp4 [12:42] lol [12:55] I just realised there's not a single gtk3 ftp client for linux [13:00] ftp is dead [13:00] 😢 [13:01] I use it with my phone because kdeconnect doesn't work, and I hate cables [13:01] buy a microsoft lumia :D [13:01] (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3260.mp4 [13:01] hrhrhr [18:11] just FYI should it ever come up https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1740704 [18:11] Launchpad bug 1740704 in Ubuntu QA Website "timestamps are set to a non-UTC timezone" [Undecided, New] [21:18] ftp has beenn around too long [21:18] and sucks in some ways [21:18] also who is this kev bowring person marking all these ubuntu-manual tests needed as invalid? [21:19] flocculant. probably the biggest contributor to the testcases [21:20] oh that is flocculant [21:20] ok [21:20] just did not recognize the name [21:27] @lynorian_next, sftp? [21:27] ssh? [21:27] dav? [21:27] yes that still works fine [21:28] or rsync or zsync [21:28] I need a dav server for me phone then [21:31] one could consider nextcloud [21:34] that uses internet [21:34] I need to share things without a cable. and pushbullet and airdroid are shitty [21:34] kdeconnect is perfect, if it worked [23:04] Happy 2018 to all [23:04] Same to you :D [23:04] (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3267.mp4 [23:04] (Sticker, 512x512) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3268