 @Alon Ganon, Hey, welcome! Glad to have you here :)
 @Alon Ganon, o/
 So what's the plan for lxqt on Lubuntu?
[01:04] <wxl> we're ditching it
[01:04] <wxl> it's no fun any more
 hahahahahaha
[01:04] <wxl> we're going to use gtk2 foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 Very funny
 Is it there yet, if not, will it be on stable?
 @wxl, Oh *obviously* /s
 @AceHW, Yep
 As a separate edition
 @tsimonq2, Oh.
 @Alon Ganon, Hey, and I was the guy responding to you :)
 Any chance Ubuntu won't have problems in LTS release?
[01:06] <wxl> yes because everything's always perfect all the time??
 @AceHW, A very large chance that it will go smoothly tbh
 @wxl, Yes absolutely /s
 Both Ubuntu and Debian had problems last time, right?
 ...
[01:06] <wxl> i agree with @tsimonq2 on that but "won't have problems?" NOTHING is without problems
 ???
[01:06] <wxl> including all the commercial options out there
[01:07] <wxl> there's ALWAYS going to be problems
 ^
 Right'
[01:07] <wxl> which is good because that's room for improvement
 Exactly
[01:07] <wxl> where's agaida to give us that quote that what's stable is dead, at least according to biology
[01:07] <wxl> ?
 XD
[01:08] <wxl> anyways i've run "last time's" release for a long while without problems
[01:08] <wxl> well
[01:08] <agaida> one should use quassel and have this in the backlog
[01:08] <wxl> without anything unusual
[01:08] <wxl> problems happen. but it's ok.
[01:08] <wxl> BIG problems are bad problems. but there won't be those.
[01:08] <agaida> but here it is
[01:09] <agaida> There's this special biologist word we use for "stable". It's "dead". ~ Jack Cohen
[01:09] <wxl> hey wait does quassel run in a terminal?
[01:09]  * wxl ducks and is out
[01:09] <agaida> with the irssi plugin - for sure
 hahahahahahahahaha
 Ooh ok
[01:14] <agaida> wxl: for you only - https://github.com/phhusson/quassel-irssi
[05:34] <wxl> !info linux xenial
[05:34] <wxl> !info linux-generic xenial
[05:35] <wxl> !info linux-generic zesty
[05:35] <wxl> !info linux-generic artful
[05:35] <wxl> !info linux-generic artful-proposed
[05:35] <wxl> !info linux-generic zesty-proposed
[05:35] <wxl> !info linux-generic bionic
[05:36] <tsimonq2> wxl: boooooo use !upkg linux-generic bruv
[05:36] <tsimonq2> In DDG
[05:36] <tsimonq2> !upkg linux-generic in DDG
[05:36] <wxl> yeah that's no fun
[05:36] <tsimonq2> Bah :P
[05:45] <wxl> um
[05:45] <wxl> @tsimonq2: why does that info disagree with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux ?
[05:45] <wxl> i.e. for artful:
[05:45] <wxl>  4.13.0-16.19 	release (main) 	2017-10-14
[05:45] <wxl> 4.13.0-21.24 	security, updates (main) 	2017-12-20
[05:45] <wxl> 4.13.0-22.25 	proposed (main) 	2017-12-20
[05:45] <wxl> but above is 4.13.0.21.22 main, 4.13.0.22.23 proposed
 @wxl, *shrug* but I'd trust Launchpad more
[05:49] <wxl> well yeah it's weird because it's behind on main but ahead on proposed wtf
[05:54] <JackFrost> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta
[05:54] <tsimonq2> wxl: ^^^
[05:54] <wxl> um ok
[05:55] <tsimonq2> wxl: Kernel metapackages sometimes don't have the same versions as the kernel packages themselves
[05:55] <tsimonq2> (they should, I think(
[05:55] <tsimonq2> )
[05:55] <wxl> confusing. so linux-generic is right?
[05:55] <wxl> (for kernel version)
[05:55] <JackFrost> To quote ubot93: < ubot93> linux-generic (source: linux-meta)
[05:56] <tsimonq2> Right, linux-generic is a metapackage
[05:56] <wxl> oh so linux is correct ok good
[05:58] <wxl> oh my bionic main still has the Bad Kernel™
[05:58] <tsimonq2> wxl: Are You Sure?
[05:58] <wxl> yep
[05:58] <wxl> fix was in 4.13.0-21.24 and bionic main is 4.13.0-17.20
[05:59] <tsimonq2> wxl: You've read changelogs too?
[05:59] <wxl> getting there
[05:59] <wxl> yep fix ain't in there
[06:00] <tsimonq2> Then go ping someone. :P
[06:00] <wxl> you go ping someone i'm trying to collect this mess of a bug together
[06:00] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[06:00] <wxl> wait hold on
[06:00]  * wxl grumbles still about launchpad
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://i.imgur.com/bTyNVtv.jpg
 Who needs Android Oreo when you can have better selfies? 😐
 @VikingRedwolf, Better? please... I need a miracle.
 😂
 lies! you're sexy!
 "please,  only a human face, no dogs or cats allowed for face detection"
 (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3258.mp4
 (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3259.mp4
 lol
 I just realised there's not a single gtk3 ftp client for linux
[13:00] <agaida> ftp is dead
 😢
 I use it with my phone because kdeconnect doesn't work, and I hate cables
[13:01] <agaida> buy a microsoft lumia :D
 (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3260.mp4
[13:01] <agaida> hrhrhr
[18:11] <wxl> just FYI should it ever come up https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1740704
[21:18] <lynorian_next> ftp has beenn around too long
[21:18] <lynorian_next> and sucks in some ways
[21:18] <lynorian_next> also who is this kev bowring person marking all these ubuntu-manual tests needed as invalid?
[21:19] <wxl> flocculant. probably the biggest contributor to the testcases
[21:20] <lynorian_next> oh that is flocculant
[21:20] <lynorian_next> ok
[21:20] <lynorian_next> just did not recognize the name
 @lynorian_next, sftp?
 ssh?
 dav?
[21:27] <lynorian_next> yes that still works fine
[21:28] <lynorian_next> or rsync or zsync
 I need a dav server for me phone then
[21:31] <agaida> one could consider nextcloud
 that uses internet
 I need to share things without a cable. and pushbullet and airdroid are shitty
 kdeconnect is perfect, if it worked
 Happy 2018 to all
 Same to you :D
 (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3267.mp4
 (Sticker, 512x512) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3268