[00:34] Alice was added by: Alice [02:26] hmm [04:00] Robyn Morvis was added by: Robyn Morvis [04:27] @mariogrip, You should be looking at him.. [04:34] @Robyn Morvis, Hello @Murli5000 , Alice and Robyn and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) [06:13] hey guys, i wish you all a great 2018 and tnx for the good work on ubports!! [06:13] keep up the spirit [07:21] fireplay was added by: fireplay [07:27] welcome fireplay [09:20] @fireplay, Welcome Akshay! Ask questions, join in. Glad to have you in our community. https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for lots of newcomer information 🚪 [09:22] @Stereofont, Why did you change your newcomer message - I love the old one 😜🙈 [09:23] I use three for variety 😎 [09:40] I know this isn't particularly relevant for Ubuntu Touch, but is anyone a Gnome expert? [09:43] k was added by: k [09:47] @k, Hello K. Welcome! Check https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome … Not-a-bot™ Ask, chat, explore! [09:47] thanks! [09:48] Have you got Ubuntu Touch K? What first language btw? [09:49] No, I use android, my first language is italian [09:49] I just saw the youtube video documenting your progress with unity8 and mir 0.29 [09:49] https://t.me/ubportsitaliano [09:49] I think the architectural design is solid [09:50] and I like the UI 🙂 [09:50] @k, Great. It is experimental but it will progress [09:50] Strange that we are suddenly desktop people 😂 [09:51] @Stereofont, We are convergent people never forget this ^^ [09:52] @Flohack, Spin-off of Divergent? Convergent! 😂 [09:52] I donated and I hope I'll find a way to be helpful (eg, in testing/translating) so that the project will get less "experimental" both on desktop and mobile [09:53] @Flohack, Tomorrow the World! 🤗 [09:54] @k, Have you got a compatible phone or tablet? [09:54] unfortunately no [09:55] as of now 🙂 [09:55] Right now, OnePlusOne seems a good choice [09:55] Cheap and capable [09:56] got it [09:56] if you want to try convergence,, Nexus 5 is a good choice ;) [09:57] I'm a desktop person 🙂 [09:57] Nexus 5 over-represented. Selfishly, for testing, we need more OPO [09:58] ok [09:58] We have not even thought of 'desktop testing'. This is extremely new [10:00] I'm just suggesting if he wants to test convergence 😅 [10:00] although I think OPO has more power but it has no external display support :( [10:04] cout [10:04] lol sry [10:06] A newer convergence device would be cool yeah [10:08] I'm back to 15.04 with my M10. There was no way to use 16.04 because no wifi und most of apps crashed after launch. I will try it soon. [10:09] @Javacookies, Yes, we could have trouble later if all convergence testing is done on one device only [10:11] @Waldbursche, There is now an appeal for testers (everyone should join the News Channel) but for use, absolutely not [10:12] Ubports as a New ubuntu flavor on desktop! [10:12] @Stereofont, I've seen it last night. Thank you. [10:25] @Javacookies, So no chance to use convergence? [10:27] @unknown, you can use wireless (miracast) but it has ~100ms delay [10:32] Willy Weinmann was added by: Willy Weinmann [10:33] @Willy Weinmann, Hello Willy and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) [10:34] @Stereofont, Thanks :) Will look at it. [10:35] @mariogrip, What about displaylink? As far as I know displaylink doesn't require hardware support [10:41] there are multiple generations of display link chips .. the old ones have a basic open source drm driver .. iirc the newer ones not yet.. [11:15] Hi, anyone running xenial image on Frieza? [11:15] @Timo Leppiniemi, Ooh. Finnish group? ? 😎 [11:17] I have Frieza but not looked at Xenial. Too soon, except for testing or curiosity [11:17] Yeah, just for curiosity. It is just a lot of work to get all back to working state if xenial does not work... [11:18] Apps don't open. OpenStore is empty [11:18] Ok, maybe I will wait [11:18] (Sticker, 512x404) https://irc.ubports.com/QBdyxMCQ/file_3397 [11:19] and what about Finnish group? Is there a one? :) [11:20] @Stereofont, @samitormanen [11:21] Hehe not yet… [11:21] :) [11:21] There is Scandinavian but you belong more with Estonia 😎 [11:22] We need a Finnish language captain [11:22] for sure, yes :) [11:23] If you want to volunteer you are very welcome [11:24] That would be interesting. The issue is where to find time. Work takes a lot these days [11:28] It is enough to be in a UBports Finnish group [11:28] Finnish translation ideally [11:29] Social, meet ups maybe [11:29] Hmm, maybe I will take a look [11:35] Can you share a link where can I find more info on this? [11:36] Can you make a username in Telegram please? Allows invites and pinging [11:37] Go into Settings to do that [11:40] done, "tleppiniemi" [11:42] the unity8-desktop-install-tools script needs to be fixed to also run apt update and apt upgrad after installing unity8-desktop-session-mir to avoid qml package versions mismatch on fresh 16.04 installations that make unity8 fail to load [11:42] besides that, everything seems to work [11:42] x11 apps work fine [11:43] network configuration seems very limited, i'll explore multiple sound outputs configuration soon [11:45] Maybe desktop feedback needs to be in a separate strand from on-device? [11:45] Cool, what about BT, does it work? [11:47] ok [11:47] wait [11:49] Interested to help testing Ubuntu Touch 16.04? Join the QA-Team! … @ubports_qa_team … t.me/ubports_qa_team … Read https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/about/process/issue-tracking.html to find out how we work. [11:56] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/KpDeiuE8/file_3399.jpg Nautilus starts with a desktop support window [12:00] The session should come with its own gsettings schema [12:00] @Stereofont, Well, I just tried 16.04 on my E5.... the only apps that started were camera and systems ettings and open store, but not the latter not showing any apps. Then the device turned off and I had to struggle to get it to work again. So after some struggling with the installer I'm downgrading to stable. Guess it's better to wait a bit with the E5 😜 [12:01] gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons false fixes the issue [12:06] raisnawaz was added by: raisnawaz [12:06] @tleppiniemi, BT pairing from unity8 works, but it is not clear how to use it then (access files/contacts/send files to the phone, etc) [12:07] Hey, can I install ubtouch on my MT6580 chipset device? [12:07] ok, I have this keyboard shell for the tablet, just curious if it would work in current development version [12:12] @Willy Weinmann, We need a system of reporting what works. Far more efficient than reporting what doesn't 😂 [12:13] Google docs spreadsheet per device? Or something like that? [12:13] @raisnawaz, Sadly, that is impractical. The device tree is closed proprietary. BQ were able to do it but are bound by non-disclosure [12:17] Hi all! I've been following the original project for a pretty long time and I think it's only fair I start getting involved now that I know a little bit more about Linux and programming. Is there a way that I could install ubports on an emulator to run on my desktop? I don't have a compatible device with me :/ [12:19] @Alice, Welcome Alice. Many have asked a similar question. With Canonical walking away from the SDK we are actually in an even weaker position with emulation at the moment. That at least provided some app emulation [12:20] For now, my suggestion would be a Nexus 7 tablet or if you can afford it and are in Europe, an M10 tablet [12:21] Oh OK, I thought so, since I couldn't find a link to anything on the website. Is there any way I could try to port the project on my device (and others)? Is it at all similar to porting an android ROM or do I have to go deeper? [12:22] you can port the project on desktop with Ubuntu SDK [12:22] Along with 16.04 we will recover ground on convergence [12:22] and later test the project on a real device [12:22] Deeper into OS files and do more than just unlock my bootloader [12:23] @mimecar, Thanks! I'll definitely try that when I get home [12:23] @Alice, Much deeper, as the Android hardware interface is hardware specific [12:23] Oh OK, it makes sense though [12:23] if you need documentation related with SDK installation or the basics of development [12:24] you can read this documentation https://www.gitbook.com/book/mimecar/ubuntu-touch-programming-course/details [12:24] there's a virtual machine with all the tools already configured [12:24] @Alice, I suggest you join OpenStore group if you want to delve deeper [12:24] @Stereofont can you paste the link? [12:24] @tleppiniemi Moroo! Mukava nähdä lisää suomalaisia täälläki! 😁👍 [12:25] Kiitos :D Meikä on enempi sellanen taustapiru. [12:26] @samitormanen Aikanaan kun Canonical julkasi ubuntu touchin niin porttailin sen Samsung Noteen. Siitä asti on tullu seurattua miten homma kehittyy [12:27] https://open.uappexplorer.com/telegram [12:28] thanks 😉 [12:30] @tleppiniemi, Shifted Finnish to Lab1 😎 [12:30] Wait so does this have any link to open-store.net ? I'm confused [12:30] @tleppiniemi Heh, ok. Sullahan on sitte osaamista jos kerta porttaaminen on tuttua. 👍 [12:31] @Alice, It is the Telegram group for app programmers and related stuff [12:31] Oh OK thanks [12:32] @samitormanen Ei se helppoa ollut. Aika hitokseen monta kertaa joutu kerneleitä hieromaan jne että sai tunkin buuttaamaan [12:54] @Stereofont, Just sold ;_; [12:54] @Stereofont, Does OPO stands for Oneplus One [12:55] yep [12:55] I have one [12:55] 👍 [12:58] Sadly, Rahul is really struggling with the Windows installer. It just refuses to cooperate [13:03] Lomme was added by: Lomme [13:04] @Lomme, Hello Lomme. Welcome! Check https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome … Not-a-bot™ Ask, chat, explore! [13:05] Are you from Pocket? 😎 [13:06] No, I'm here out of interest in the ubports project 😅 [13:07] @Lomme, It was an obscure Norwegian joke 🤓 [13:07] So have you got Ubuntu Touch? [13:09] I had it, but because I need some apps that are not supported on Ubuntu touch I had to go back to Android sadly enough... But the news of the collaboration between Anbox and Ubuntu touch brought my interest back [13:10] btw Lomme could you make a username in Telegram? Allows invites and pings [13:12] True for a lot of people I think. That is why it was done. It will take a bit of time before working versions are available [13:13] I know. But still, it got me excited! [13:14] And yeah, I just made a username 😊 [13:14] Thanks [13:14] What is your first language? [13:47] Dutch. I already got added to the Dutch UBports group [13:52] lommeke: belgium or netherlands? [13:57] omicrono was added by: omicrono [13:59] Hello everyone [14:00] welcome omicrono [14:00] @omicrono, Hello Genii. Welcome! Check https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome … Not-a-bot™ Ask, chat, explore! [14:01] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/P0xvcw1F/file_3400 [14:02] 😎 [14:07] @lotuspsychje, Belgium [14:09] lommeke: me too [14:10] @lommeke, Me too! [14:14] @Flohack, I'm gonna pm you my phone number to text me when you're ready to discuss it as I rarely come on telegram these days [14:14] I'll hop online when I get the text or if sleeping when I wake up [14:40] @Xorpad, Oki nice [14:40] How do I start a private message? [14:55] the canonical is behind the development of Ubuntu touch along with ubports [14:56] No, Canonical does not develop Ubuntu Touch any more [14:57] vonThinkpadstein was added by: vonThinkpadstein [14:57] they could come back someday [14:59] right after half life 3 comes out [14:59] I mean, they helped a lot with the hand-off and are supportive of the goals, but they are no longer the drivers. Nor are they providing engineering directly to the project. [15:00] I liked to know that Ubuntu phone will run Android apps but here in Brazil The smartphone that the Ubuntu phone wheel is not sold here [15:06] Hello everyone. Just starting to get interested in UBports. I'm running Sailfish OS (CM12.1 - SFOS 2.0.4.13) for almost a year now on my Nexus 5 as a daily runner. Did flash a custom build kernel into it so govenor scaling and lowering CPU voltage became possible to achive better battery life. This version of Sailfish suffered a lot of wakelocks from bluetooth which drained battery life massive. Currently my Nexus runs with average battery [15:06] of 2 days. I was wondering how battery live comes along with UBports on the Nexus 5 ? Is it still bad or did it improve ? [15:10] I wanted a sdk + Ubuntu phone emulator to test the system inside the Ubuntu desktop and in the future bring to popular models in Brazil like Motorola Samsung Asus lg among others with a structure for installation and upgrade equal to Ubuntu desktop [15:14] @Flohack, "We are Convergent People" … "We are the Convergent People" … "We Converge" (v) … "We are a Convergent People" (adj) [15:15] @Xorpad, klick on my name and there should be a button [15:18] thank you [15:24] @vonThinkpadstein, why don't to you install the latest version of SFOS? 2.1.something? anyway, based on my experience I get battery drain on Ubuntu Touch. I am not sure though if it's a hardware problem or not. My Nexus 5 is 2nd hand and drains very fast in any OS I use although UT is the only one that drains battery even while not in use [15:24] @vonThinkpadstein, Hello Pascal. Welcome! Check https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome … Not-a-bot™ Ask, chat, explore! [15:24] I need to create a live USB. Made 1 before I wiped every drive I own but it failed and now I need an os installer media [15:24] Lol [15:25] Chromebook apparently doesn't have the basic tools needed to make a fat32 USB or mount a iso to extract it to the use [15:25] USB [15:27] I also can't do it with a crouton install and I don't have space to extract the iso to a local storage and move it to usb [15:28] @Javacookies, That is an option, but newer versions of Sailfish OS on the Nexus 5 haven' t got (yet) android support. My current setup works like a charm. Development on the Nexus branch of SFOS is quit low, so apart from a few people there is a lot of DIY. [15:28] Hey Pascal I just bought 2 of you from nVidia [15:28] Yesterday [15:29] Hey Will. You are not in OT 😀 [15:32] (Sticker, 512x423) https://irc.ubports.com/UQAts5e9/file_3402 [15:32] @Stereofont, This [15:33] @Stereofont, Sorry [15:37] @vonThinkpadstein, oh I see, I don't need android apps on sailfish so I didn't bother 😁 if it's not too much of a hassle,you can try Ubuntu Touch on your Nexus 5 and see if batter is okay or if you want try MultiROM setup ;) [15:39] @Javacookies, oh I will definitely :) [15:42] One question since I want to try it. What version of Ubuntu should I use this on? https://github.com/ubports/unity8-desktop-install-tools [15:43] My guess would be that I should use 16.04? [15:54] @Paktosan, You should use the stable branch (currently only available on 15.04). [15:54] Happy New Year to everyone applicable 😁 [15:55] Let's make 2018 the year of UBports! 😍 [15:56] @jonny, For the Unity 8 tryout, 16.04 on desktop [15:58] @Javacookies, agree! the way 2017 ended 2018 is going to be absolutely amazing. However, we should all plan to contribute more if we are going to realize our dreams. We have great foundations but now the work begins. No more waiting for other people (like Marius) to do everything. [15:58] Don't watch the community. Be the community. We can all help (I'm living proof) [15:59] I can't code. I can't do much, but I do my best because I really, really want Ubuntu Touch to be in my whole family's pockets [16:02] @wayneoutthere, Sounds like reggae [16:03] @exar_kun, LOVE IT! Thanks Joe. [16:03] i can feel it already.... [16:06] Make it happen, @exar_kun [16:06] @Paktosan, 16.04 [16:12] Ubuntu touch OS 18.04 [16:12] New version [16:16] not for some time [16:17] 😳 [16:17]