[09:47] <lotuspsychje> copy1: testing 3 systems on bionic, all work like a charm
[09:47] <copy1> lotuspsychje: sorry for the wrong chan
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> copy1: so yes, bionic iso's work
[09:48] <copy1> kk will double check again, because I couldn't get the Live CD bootet, and I somehow won't risk the Installer, as this is my only pc
[09:48] <dax> uh
[09:49] <dax> running an unreleased Ubuntu build on a computer that you need to work is a fairly bad idea
[09:49] <copy1> nah, it's not for work, just my pc for distro hopping, but I forgot my laptop at a friends house...
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> copy1: we are still in pre-alpha stage right now
[09:50] <copy1> as long as I get a terminal, should be fine. 
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> copy1: have you encountered errors booting?
[09:51] <copy1> just a black screen with the cursor, nothing more (after the bootsplash)
[09:52] <copy1> so even x/wayland won't start up (with the live usb
[09:52] <copy1> (and as I have no idea about the root/user password for the tty can't do anything)
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> copy1: what graphics chipset?
[09:53] <copy1> amd hd 7770
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> radeon here, no issues and dax got also amd
[09:54] <copy1> will double check, first with the downloaded iso (md5 is perfect) (its the iso from the 21.) after that maybe the from today, let's see which one works
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic bionic
[09:55] <ubottu> linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.13.0.17.18 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 14 kB
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> Linux R00TBOOK 4.13.0-17-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 6 10:04:08 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:56] <dax> Linux violet 4.15.0-041500rc5-generic #201712240530 SMP Sun Dec 24 05:31:14 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:56] <dax> :3
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:56] <dax> (mainline PPA)
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> dax: your playing with latest always?
[09:57] <dax> nah, just until 4.15 comes out
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> cool
[09:57] <copy1> dax: only for dc?
[09:57] <dax> copy1: yeah, 'cause of DC
[09:58] <copy1> ever tried it with gcn1.0?
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> copy1: hey let us know if your wayland/gnome is lagging on your card after install?
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> got a few bugs i wanna sort
[09:59] <dax> nope, my Pitcairn was always fine on radeon, so I didn't bother. retired it in favor of an rx480 back when amdgpu was very not finished
[09:59] <dax> well, not very. but the SI support wasn't there
[09:59] <copy1> sure I will, will just switch to my phone now, as I wanna boot up that ISO
[10:00] <copy1> dax: hope they will sort everything out. I'm also totally perfect with radeon, but it kinda itches me :X
[10:05] <copy1> Interestingly now it works, just takes way longer than normal (we are talking about 5 mins till the desktop pops up)
[10:06] <flocculant> copy1: I've been seeing that (xubuntu and ubuntu) since the cycle start - gave up asking questions
[10:06] <flocculant> not 5 minutes mind you - but about 2.5 minutes
[10:06] <copy1> Hm, very Strange 
[10:07] <flocculant> yea - originally thought it was vm's - but hardware is the dsame
[10:08] <copy1> Ah, would like to use vms but my cpu is too old :(
[10:08] <flocculant> :)
[10:09] <copy1> I just have a sandy bridge Pentium -.-
[10:14] <copy1> lotuspsychje: any bugs I should look out for?
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> copy1: are you in?
[10:15] <copy1> Last few sec before the install is done 
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> copy1: real install or try ubunt?
[10:15] <copy1> Real install
[10:15] <copy1> Hm cool installer crashed (while he installed grub)
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> copy1: cool, yes try the wayland session, and test laggyness of mouse/programs launch/overall system smoothness
[10:18] <copy1> Good that I can’t use the reporting tool after the installer crashed (the window is not closable)
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> wb copy1 
[10:32] <copy1> thx
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> copy1: bypassed the crash?
[10:33] <copy1> Still not in the installed system, can’t get grub to install as he can’t find the x86_64-efi files
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> copy1: have you setup uefi settings correctly to install ubuntu?
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> copy1: secureboot off, fastboot off?
[10:34] <copy1> Both off
[10:34] <copy1> But I think I found the bug
[10:35] <copy1> I think it’s my uefi (which is crap)
[10:59] <copy1> lotuspsychje: so after some testing, I would say, mouse smoothness is perfectly fine (in comparison to tumbleweed) program smoothness is a little rough, for me especially Firefox 
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> copy1: but once fireofx running its not lagging anymore i presume?
[11:00] <copy1> (After Boot the system IS a Little laggy (in comparison to arch)
[11:00] <copy1> Yes
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> copy1: this is on wayland right?
[11:00] <copy1> Yes
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> copy1: can you go test the xorg session to compare smoothness plz?
[11:01] <copy1> Sure give me a few mins
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> sure mate tyt
[11:03] <copy1> No problem :) 
[11:03] <copy1> but I just found out, everything was on X (i thought the default is wayland?)
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> yes
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> copy1: you can switch at login (with gear icon)
[11:04] <copy1> Nope it’s not there 
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> huh?
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> copy1: when you type your password, you should be able to click the session
[11:06] <copy1> https://i.imgur.com/WHpWMNa.jpg
[11:06] <copy1> As I told you ;)
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> so weird
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> dax: you had that on your grafix card?
[11:08] <dax> nop, i have a gear thing
[11:09] <copy1> I never had such a problem, so for myself it’s weird :/
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> a new mystery
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> copy1: did you check system monitor if it was xorg or wayland?
[11:10] <copy1> It’s xorg
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> strange
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> dig into your logs why wayland isnt there copy1 
[11:12] <copy1> That’s what I’m doing right now
[11:17] <copy1> Honestly I think that’s a thing I have to do another time, because even after switching to wayland (in the dm) he switches back to xorg
[11:18] <copy1> lotuspsychje: im sorry but so much free time I didn’t plan to have today, and I still have to prepare for this evening 
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> no prob mate, to be continued
[11:18] <copy1> But I can use Weston 
[11:20] <copy1> While digging, I tested also to just install another wm, which still didn’t show me the gear, so there has to be something bigger missing 
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> copy1: perhaps alpha1 will fix that
[11:36] <copy1> I hope so, but I still hope I can find the time to dig into it to find the culprit 
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> copy1: oh, did you update system during setup?
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> !info gdm
[11:37] <ubottu> Package gdm does not exist in bionic
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> !find gdm
[11:37] <ubottu> Found: gdm3, gir1.2-gdm-1.0, libgdm-dev, libgdm1, gdmap, liblcgdm-dev, liblcgdm1, peace-gdm-theme, sabily-gdm-themes, tropic-gdm-theme (and 1 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gdm&searchon=names&suite=bionic&section=all
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> !info gdm3
[11:37] <ubottu> gdm3 (source: gdm3): GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 3.26.2.1-2ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 271 kB, installed size 1792 kB (Only available for linux-any)
[11:38] <copy1> I did an update, just to be sure to be on the newest version
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> got this version of gdm3?
[11:39] <copy1> And I think gdm is preinstalled or?
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[11:39] <copy1> Double check in a few mins 
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-session-wayland
[11:41] <ubottu> gnome-session-wayland (source: gnome-session): GNOME Session Manager - GNOME 3 session (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.26.1-0ubuntu8 (bionic), package size 1 kB, installed size 42 kB
[11:42] <copy1> lotuspsychje: Gdm3 is the same version, gnome-session-wayland I had to install but nothing changed
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> found the bug
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1729249
[11:42] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1729249 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "Only Ubuntu on Xorg is default" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> so its known
[11:45] <copy1> Good ^^
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> copy1: seems like this also: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1714203
[11:51] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1714203 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "Cannot select a session after a fresh installation - No selection is available in gdm" [High,Won't fix]
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> and another one wth..
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1724583
[11:52] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1724583 in gdm3 (Fedora) "gdm3 in Ubuntu 17.10 doesn't list wayland sessions when using hybrid graphics" [Medium,Confirmed]
[11:54] <copy1> lotuspsychje: very interesting, will test it out, when I come back (after midnight). Thanks for pointing me in the right direction ;)
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1723577
[11:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1723577 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "No login screen (mutter silently goes headless) on some AMD GPUs" [Critical,Fix released]
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> jesus lol
[11:58] <copy1> Hm a few people seem to be affected 
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> seems like a hybrid grafix problem
[11:59] <copy1> But good to know I am not the only one (but have every single one of them)