IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I've created #ubuntu-qt (bridged to Telegram at https://t.me/joinchat/DH6s1A5_bOpAVbiu9QzvVg ) for packaging and transition-specific Qt-only discussion. Anyone is welcome to join. :)01:31
valorieacheronuk: I have to agree with you that if the fatal bug isn't fixed at alpha we can't participate and ask testers to put their machines in jeopardy21:35
wxlwell we could just say VM only21:36
wxlMOST of the tests, especially at this stage, are VMs anyways21:36
valorietrue, but this bug has GOT TO BE FIXED21:48
valorieI've heard of fatal bugs before, but .... not in my backyard21:49
acheronukI would need some convincing that a VM only alpha was a good plan. at the moment, I am sceptical in the extreme22:14
tsimonq2valorie, acheronuk: Alright, so I just had a conversation with someone on the Kernel Team, the src:linux in bionic-proposed just needs to migrate, and we shouldn't have to worry about that then.22:45
tsimonq2valorie, acheronuk: The way he says it, it seems that it should migrate Very Shortly, they just didn't want to do it right before everyone went on vacation...22:46
tsimonq2I'll keep y'all updated when I find out stuff.22:46
acheronuktsimonq2: yeah, well I knew that, it was just the 2nd part. kernel migration has sometimes not been quick22:47
tsimonq2acheronuk: heh right22:48
acheronukfingers crossed basically!22:48
acheronukwithout a new kernel, I would prefer to skip alpha 1 isos22:50
acheronukI don't want to be accused of risking users, even if we out bug flashing signs up to say "VM only"22:50
acheronuk*put big22:51
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Right...22:53
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Alpha 1 likely won't happen if that isn't released.22:53
acheronukmaybe we could have an unofficial (non-milestone) interim iso test day or something, if we miss the alpha?22:53
wxlwe could participate in the alpha but ont release22:54
wxljust at the end have the release manager mark as *NOT* ready22:54
wxlthat being said, you don't even have to make the decision until then22:54
acheronukwe have options22:55
acheronuklets just hope the kernel team get 4.14 in22:55
tsimonq2Anyways, I'm upgrading to the kernel from bionic-proposed now to smoke test it.,22:56
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Rebooting...23:00
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @tsimonq2, bye bye23:03
tsimonq2I SURVIVED23:03
tsimonq2$ uname -r23:04
* valorie is still on 4.13.0-21-generic23:11
valoriesoooo behind!23:11
valoriebtw wxl good job on the testing task for GCi students23:40
valorieI didn't have time23:40
wxlnow balloons wants me to fix all of them23:40
valoriewxl: go for it!23:41

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