[00:03] does 15.04 r3 has convergence ? [00:08] @G what do you means by convergence ? [00:09] You can plug it in a screen with a mouse and keyboard [00:09] and use windows app instead of fullscreen app [00:17] Yes, depending on hardware [01:04] @dohbee, I have a Nexus 5, however when I plug in the slimport adapter , it just blows up the screen , doesn't launch the unity shell [01:07] You need to connect BT mouse/kb too. [01:08] You mean it just mirrors your screen? You have to toggle desktop mode from thr system indicator, however onscreen touchpad isn't currently working on Nexus 5 so yeah you need BT mouse/kb [01:08] @Javacookies, That explains it, thanks [01:08] If it detects a mouse and external display, I believe it automatically switches to desktop mode [01:09] yeah, not sure if it automatically switches when trying to use the fake touchpad via phone [01:11] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/YDAutY6R/file_3458 [01:17] Fardale was added by: Fardale [01:46] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/eJnRYw01/file_3459.webp [01:46] That's neat [01:56] that is [03:03] rip that marketing campaign [03:04] I made the one with the big workstation transforming into a Nokia N9 [03:04] shame canonical went the other way for their stakeholders [03:31] Hello. I installed UBports 16.04 today on my tablet BQ M10 and it works. Will there be 16.04 support for this tablet? [03:45] @Jyoti, Do you mean you installed 15.04 and will it get 16.04? … Answer is yes! [03:46] I installed the 16.04 directlly [03:47] With ubports-installer [03:47] Ok.. But 16.04 is experimental.. it's not stable get [03:48] Yes, very early version [03:50] Now, i dont know what to do. Just keep it and whait for upgrades or go back to 15.04 [03:53] 2 [05:02] 3 [06:00] Happy New Year to all of you! I have one question: in the system settings, safety and privacy, diagnosis (somethinglike that, I use the phone in German), one can choose to send diagnosis information about crashes to canonical. Does it make any sense to have this enabled? Does it really point to canonical or to ubports? [06:45] @Daniel, diagnosis dont go to canonical [06:51] @Mr_Doge, Does it go to ubports? Is there any point in havingthis option applied? [07:17] @Daniel, no [07:18] Ok [07:31] (Photo, 503x703) https://irc.ubports.com/xBqNc7d4/file_3461.jpg [07:32] (Photo, 503x703) https://irc.ubports.com/dF0TKiW0/file_3461.jpg [07:35] Only my sense of humour not a political comment. Happy new year! :) [07:36] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/jtXfG8HM/file_3462.mp4 [07:36] @Mark, Lol, it actually just reminds me of the ship wheel from WALL-E 😆 [07:37] @Mark, you can read the code === Piece_Maker is now known as Acou_Bass === Elimin8r is now known as Elimin8er [08:49] (Photo, 2560x1440) https://irc.ubports.com/jhzqFUGR/file_3464.jpg [08:50] Unity8 runs wayland apps!! :D [08:50] 👍 [08:51] Nice :) [08:51] good [08:53] @mariogrip, \o/ [08:54] (Sticker, 360x512) https://irc.ubports.com/MlcPFFAS/file_3465 [08:56] @mariogrip, yuuuhuuuuu! … That could means that we will can use kde apps in phone?😁 [08:56] @j2g2rp, I guess most kde apps is qt so they should work native [08:57] @bhushanshah confirm? ^ [08:57] ack.. yes [08:57] that would be great 😊 [09:02] @mariogrip, OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! [09:03] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/n93WJPMC/file_3466 [09:09] this is YUGE! [09:09] this + snaps [09:09] i think i could use unity8 as a daily driver [09:09] @mariogrip, Omg! [09:09] muhahahaha [09:09] MUHAHAHAHAHA [09:09] @bhushanshah, Omg omg omg!!! [09:10] ship it! :) [09:11] This would be gr [09:12] I promise to myself not to hype anymore about technology, I have failed [09:13] @mariogrip jezz how many repos you created last weeks ^^ [09:13] @Flohack, many :P [09:14] BTW the core apps need also some love, I was thinking to create proper xenial and vivid branches in all of them. [09:14] @Flohack, yes [09:16] @Flohack, +1 [09:21] And sometime in the future, when the most important points are done and there's a bit more leisure... (haha, as if) [09:22] ...I would like to have apps and themes get some attention [09:24] I'm already on suru dark, but it's near unusable because often colors are partly hardcoded, like the font color in the browsers navigation bar and menu... which end up the same as their respective backgrounds... [09:42] Joan is working on icons but people keep making new apps 🙄 [09:42] 😁 [09:49] Oh and by the way, I have two Nexus4 lying around here. As far as I can tell and remember they work, just that one has a busted screen and touch is dead and the other has an unusable battery. Could these still be of any use for somebody? [09:49] Then again, Nexus4 could be a device you still have most of... [09:50] Or any tip on how easy I can replace the battery and use it after all? 😁 [09:50] Guessing Turkey would be the best destination but they have crippling import taxes [09:51] even for "scrap electronics"? [09:52] Appears so. A very closed market [10:02] btw who is responsible for the ubports forum? [10:08] Hi!. Iinstalledthe 16.04 in my bq M10 tablet. Will be some upgrades soon? May i just keep it and whait for upgrades or go back to 15.04? [10:15] @Jyoti, 16.04 is for sightseeing the construction site. Wear a hard hat and do not expect running water. Otherwise, only for serious work running test regimes [10:15] 15.04 is for normal use where (almost) everything works [10:16] If you have two devices, you can 'play' with 16.04 on one of them and follow daily progress [10:18] I installed the 16.04 because i wanted to have the last updates n upgrades... :-) [10:20] Praveen7682 was added by: Praveen7682 [10:20] Before OTA3 on Stable channel, there was a good reason to use Development, for some early fixes. With 16.04 you have gone backwards with functionality [10:20] I have another tablet with android. I am not in a rush, i may whait. Will be regular updates of the 16.04? Or it is very slow changing? [10:21] 16.04 is a development channel, so nightly builds [10:22] Hi @Praveen7682! I'm part of the Welcoming Team. Please look at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get up to speed and feel free to ask any question, especially in the Newcomers Room! [10:22] In a way, is very interesting to see how the 16.04 is changing.. :-) [10:23] Do OTAs already work in 16.04? Last time I checked on my Nexus 5, it detects no new update although there's already a new build [10:23] @Javacookies, you may need to correct you clock [10:23] since the OTAs uses ssl and that require an up to date clock [10:23] @peternerlich, It is fairly easy you will need a small cross screwdriver a new battery and a plastic tool, that in most cases come with the new battery, to open the phone [10:24] and BTW, 16.04 is partly advance and partly behind 15.04...some fixes/features are only in 15.04 but some are only in 16.04 like dash background opacity which is really cool! ;) [10:24] There is buttons for updating and some updates, as the file explorer update starts, but they fail at the very end of the process [10:24] @mariogrip, Oh I see.... that's why, I can't set it to automatic, perhaps I'll try manually setting it Thanks! [10:26] The 16.04 has still the canonical app manager on the apps scope :-) [10:26] @ebetonro, Yeah I looked it up again after writing. Had thought there was some difficulty like being glued to the casing, why I didn't want to try it back then. I'll probably order a battery and a opening tool pack today, it's fairly inexpensive [10:27] @Javacookies, I meant functionality as overall experience but yes the 50% that works probably works much faster 😜 [10:32] As i am not in a rush, i think i will keep the 16.04 installed for some weeks, just to see the process. Anyway, is possible to come back to 15.04 at any time. [10:32] Is interresting tha the 16.04 is working in my BQ M10 tablet. Atthe begining, i thought that only works in core devices, but no, also in the BQ tablet [10:37] @Jyoti, M10 is a core device [10:38] Probably we need some guidance on resetting the clock, for those who are trying 16.04. I don't know how that is done [10:41] @Jyoti, it was announced some days ago that all supported devices will get 16.04 (almost? Nexus 7 2013 currently doesn't have builds) [11:24] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/csPt6v0R/file_3467.webp [11:25] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/dAAFAUBm/file_3469.jpg Anyone have idea ?😶 [11:41] Are the device specific repositories really there? [11:41] Ok, they are .. your envsetup shows that [11:42] For which Android Version is your device tree? [11:42] For long discussions of detail, a Lab room is useful [11:45] Invited both [11:47] Cool, thanks [11:59] @Stereofont, Any update? [12:11] @technicalbird, ? [12:11] @Stereofont, ?? [12:12] @Mr_Doge, Yes it does. It's just crash reports. Nothing special [12:13] 1. Lab rooms are useful for overspill chat. 2. Updates on 16.04 need clock correction. So Howto? [12:15] @JBBgameich, CM 14.1 [12:18] @peternerlich, Take good battery from bad screen phone, put in phone with bad battery? [12:19] @dohbee, WAIT. mind blown [12:49] @Ringo Kätzel, We are working on registration mails not coming through [13:15] Dieter Johannsmeier was added by: Dieter Johannsmeier [13:17] @Dieter Johannsmeier, Hello Dieter. Welcome! Check https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome … Not-a-bot™ Ask, chat, explore! [13:18] http://t.me/UBports_Deutsch [13:25] Gautam Jayasankar was added by: Gautam Jayasankar [13:29] Welcome Gautam! Please take a look at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome and feel free to ask any question, especially in the Newcomers Room! [13:29] https://t.me/UBports_India [13:33] A Brand New Language Focus Group has been started - SUOMI|FINISH. Be sure to get the information right away on our dedicated News Channel: https://t.me/ubports_news [13:33] @wayneoutthere, nice :) [13:34] @Stereofont, Why they talk in english? XD [13:35] So is Nexus 5, 5x, 6, etc [13:35] @Schyken, YUMI the UBports Robot looks like Eva from Wall E so its... a theme ;) [13:36] Basically every ubports device is, except fp2 [13:36] @mariogrip, waaaaaayland? [13:36] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/TJphAhaK/file_3471 [13:37] @dohbee, Waste. They should foucs on one table and two different phones [13:37] @petya230, True. It is an exception but reflects device availability, Linux clubs, national carriers, popular YouTube channels etc [13:37] Any bacon owners in here? [13:38] @Dion, Nope. [13:39] @dohbee, That is why OS cant be completed for forever. [13:39] @Dion, Nope. This is not a problem [13:40] @petya230, because they have 22 languages and I think they decided on English. it is kind of lol-material to me too.... [13:41] @petya230, I was hoping for a little Sanscrit action... [13:41] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/riOFgGJ0/file_3473.webp [13:41] @wayneoutthere, Hm.. I see, okay! :D … Hungary has group too? [13:41] @wayneoutthere, for starters.. you don't spell it that way [13:41] :P [13:41] hides [13:41] correct me buddy. show me. i like learning [13:41] and then get in the India group and start using it [13:42] s/c/k [13:42] err [13:42] hmm [13:42] I mean well ... Sanskrit [13:42] @petya230, No Hungarian group yet. We need a language lead [13:42] @bhushanshah, +1 [13:42] @Stereofont, Im waiting for it! :D [13:42] @bhushanshah, rrrrrright. well... did you know that "Finnish" is "Suomi"? Take THAT [13:43] I think we should link to the language groups on the ubports.com website. There's just the supergroup link yet. [13:43] can I have my own group? I'm the only member, LOL [13:43] @petya230, don't wait for it. BE it. Contact me if you want to be Captain Hungary [13:43] @petya230, we can make it ^^ You write in hungarian and i write in german ^^ [13:43] @Javacookies, Which language? [13:43] @nfsprodriver, It's in https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [13:43] Hi all. I reponded to this topic with my idea about how to fix the "can't flash Pro 5 to upgrade the baseband": [13:43] https://forums.ubports.com/topic/823/pro-5-basebands/18 [13:43] Lots of words in Hindi just sound like English anyway [13:43] Oh I see thanks! [13:44] If anyone has new informatioñ to share about that, please go right ahead. [13:44] *special n highlight not intended :) [13:44] Dosh, Cha [13:44] @Stereofont, I'm just kidding :) ....it's Filipino which I don't think anyone else here knows aside from me :P [13:44] @nfsprodriver, It's just that the first join should be the supergroup, not a language group or even the Newcomers Room, else the community is probably doomed to drift away from each other [13:45] @wayneoutthere, I dont have Ubuntu touch capable phone yet :( … So I cant help in UT questions :/ [13:45] @Javacookies, ano ba ang asong babae? [13:45] @peternerlich, 🤔 Makes sense 😄 [13:46] Sup [13:46] @fireplay, . [13:46] @Javacookies, Togalog? [13:47] @petya230, Language groups are about social, local conditions, helping those who struggle with English. Language lead doesn't have to be a UT 'expert' [13:48] @dohbee, Tagalog is the main dialect of Filipino ;) … we have a lot of dialects.....7000+ islands LOL [13:48] Like sicilian [13:50] @Javacookies, Oh, but are you interested in translating for that language? There might be others that aren't an active part of the community yet for whatever reason, but would appreciate UT in their language. We would need to ask someone to add it to the languages: https://translate.ubports.com/projects/ubports/system-settings/ (I don't know the process of that and how new languages get decided on to include, though) [13:51] @dohbee, I bet you have never heard proper Hindi.. [13:52] (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/JLxyTrAI/file_3475.jpg [13:53] @peternerlich, I would but I believe it's not a supported language in UT and actually we use English in most things aside from oral [13:55] @technicalbird, Would probably be easier to follow a TV show then, with subtitles. [13:58] @Dion, I also dont agree on this. … First of all we got different skills in the community/foundation, so there are people specialized on ports. Putting them on the core OS wont speed up anything. Instead lets have them explore new and old devices. … Then, focusing on only a small range of devices will constrain the number of potential users, and we will fall behind the market. We have cycles of 12 or 18 months still in mobile industry, so any fo [13:58] certain device makes things very unflexible. … Rather we should how to enable more devices in a generic way, trying to get as much out of them as possible. [14:01] I've created #ubuntu-qt (bridged to Telegram at https://t.me/joinchat/DH6s1A5_bOpAVbiu9QzvVg ) for packaging and transition-specific Qt-only discussion. Anyone is welcome to join. :) [14:08] @fireplay, I have one [14:13] Me, also [14:14] Me too [14:16] Andy 🦄🐶🐥 was added by: Andy 🦄🐶🐥 [14:17] @Andy 🦄🐶🐥, Hello Andy. Welcome! Check https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome … Not-a-bot™ Ask, chat, explore! [14:20] Will Anbox come to the Xenial development channel for the MX4? At the moment, my MX4 has been relegated by the Pro 5 and M10 to a backup device if the others are charging or otherwise occupied. So would be happy to help test Anbox if it runs for Xenial. @Flohack @mariogrip @UniversalSuperBox [14:20] Otherwise, I'll be selling it on soon. [14:20] Basically Anbox will require only 16.04 - So the question is, will MX4 get 16.04, and we currently think: yes ;) [14:20] @TartanSpartan, Im not 100% i personly do not own a MX4 so i cannot do much development with that device [14:21] @mariogrip, Be more positive ^^ [14:21] @fireplay, Hi! [14:21] @Flohack, It requires kernel changes too [14:21]