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lordievaderGood morning06:55
daftykins\o06:57
lordievaderHey daftykins06:58
lordievaderHappy new year06:58
ducassemorning all06:58
ducassehappy new year lordievader06:58
daftykinshappy new year to you :)06:58
daftykinshey ducasse :> good sleep?06:59
lordievaderHey ducasse06:59
lordievaderHappy new year to you too, ducasse06:59
ducassedaftykins: just an hour or two, damn insomnia...06:59
daftykins:(07:00
jinkGelukkig nieuwjaar, stelletje prutsers. ^__^07:27
daftykinsthat's one weird lingo07:29
BluesKajHiyas all12:24
pauljwgood morning BluesKaj :)12:25
BluesKaj'Morning pauljw ...up early :-)12:26
BluesKajmilder here, but windy12:30
pauljw:)12:35
pauljwcolder here, -2F at the moment.  not much wind though.12:36
BluesKaj check this out  https://www.facebook.com/robert.thiessen.58/videos/10155142709887517/12:58
pauljwheheh... very good!13:07
pauljwgood news here: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2018/01/private-internet-access-creator-london-trust-media-acquires-linux-journal/13:08
BluesKajok, i can tell just by the URL that it looks like good news already :-)13:11
pauljw:)13:12
BluesKajvery cool, glad to see this happen:-013:14
BluesKajerr :-)13:14
pauljwme too13:15
BluesKajshared the news in the main chat13:21
pauljwthat's cool13:24
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lotuspsychjegood evening to all16:32
BluesKajHi lotuspsychje16:33
lotuspsychjehey BluesKaj16:33
lotuspsychje1349 users nice16:33
BluesKajyeah, more new users needing help are able to join16:34
lotuspsychjeyay16:34
lotuspsychjeand a good 2018 to you all16:35
leftyfbis it "universally accepted" to always be suggesting people install non-LTS over LTS? :)16:38
BluesKajsame to you lotuspsychje :-)16:38
lotuspsychjeleftyfb: i always ask whats the users end goal?16:38
lotuspsychjeleftyfb: latest/testing vs stable/long time16:38
naccleftyfb: not universally accepted, no16:39
BluesKajleftyfb, never heard that one, depends on their situation16:39
nacci would even say, for the purposes of #ubuntu, the opposite is the universal (or more universal) default stance16:39
leftyfbok, good. That's what I thought16:39
naccwith the obvious caveat that there is nothing stopping anyone from running non-LTS, they just need to know the implications (actually do release upgrades or reinstalls regularly)16:40
hggdhleftyfb: my take is: if you are willing to upgrade every half-year, then yes, go non-lts. If you are a casual user, OTOH, stay with LTS16:41
nacchggdh: +116:41
hggdhleftyfb: and yes, I followe the discussion on #u.16:42
hggdhs/followe/&d/16:42
leftyfbI was mainly only validating what I already knew to be true16:42
hggdhyep, understood16:42
lotuspsychjesome users with newer hardware would only be able to run non-lts in same cases16:43
lotuspsychje*some16:43
lotuspsychjeso its good we have both options no?16:43
naccwell, that's what hwe is for16:43
naccthere will be a window of a few months where that might be true, you're right, lotuspsychje16:44
hggdh(I have actually been on the devel release since 2006; but (1) I have a pretty good idea of the risks and (2) it was part of my work requirements or a while -- eat your dog food, and all)16:44
hggdhlotuspsychje: yes, there are always reasons to go non-lts. But users should be aware that they will need to upgrade to +1 every half year. This is the warning I find missing when suggesting non-lts16:45
lotuspsychjehggdh: you testing bionic also?16:45
hggdhlotuspsychje: been running it pretty much since it opened16:46
hggdhso far, no critical issues16:46
lotuspsychjehggdh: nice one16:46
lotuspsychjehggdh: im testing bionic on 3 machines myself16:46
lotuspsychjehggdh: perhaps an idea to add non-lts to !artful codenames?16:47
lotuspsychje!xenial16:48
ubot5Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) is the current LTS release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Read the release notes at https://ubottu.com/y/xenial16:48
hggdhlotuspsychje: I am restricted to my work laptop, others are production16:48
lotuspsychje2 days till alpha1 :p16:50
BluesKajwe've got a live one over at ##linux, doesn't which linux OS he's running :-)16:52
BluesKajdoesn't know16:53
leftyfbcat /etc/issue? lsb_release?16:54
BluesKajseems to be mint16:59
lotuspsychjebrrr16:59
hggdhlotuspsychje: !bionic is there17:02
hggdhleftyfb: just one last thing: opinions vary. So some will say go current release, others will not. I am not sure on how to address this17:03
leftyfbI understand this17:03
leftyfbAnd I definitely preface all my suggestions with I recommend or suggest or in my opnion17:04
hggdhleftyfb: yes, sounds *very* sensible. I try to do the same17:05
BluesKajsome users are so absolute ... it's fun to debate them sometimes17:08
BluesKajwith them opinions are facts17:08
lotuspsychjebbl17:50
lotuspsychjeJanC: alive?18:12
nicomachusfrozen solid18:13
lotuspsychje:p18:13
lotuspsychjetrying to get my eid alive, but that belgian stuff18:14
lotuspsychjewb BluesKaj18:22
pauljwhey lotuspsychje :)18:23
BluesKajthanks lotuspsychje18:24
BluesKajnice, PIA now has 3 servers in Canada18:25
pauljwnice, mine all seem so slow lately.18:26
BluesKajprobly be adding more once the net neutrality becomes more and more disabled in the US18:26
BluesKajpauljw, I like the NYC and Florida servers, they seems to be the fastest from here18:27
pauljwhaven't tried florida, nyc does well sometimes.18:29
BluesKajToronto and Montreal are fast as well due to my proximity to those18:30
pauljweven the one i built on digitalocean is slow lately.18:30
pauljwi'm here without any right now.18:31
pauljwbrb, let me try florida...18:31
lotuspsychjehi Nokaji18:32
NokajiGreetings lotuspsychje of the third rock18:33
BluesKajHi Nokaji18:34
pauljwBluesKaj, florida is doing fine.  thx.18:37
NokajiHiyas BluesKaj18:37
BluesKajpauljw, good to hear...it's great for torrent DLs18:38
pauljw:)18:39
lotuspsychjenite nite guys19:20
BluesKajlordievader, does ubuntu have a "driver manager" app in it's system settings or .... ?19:35
alkisgBluesKaj: ubuntu-drivers in console, software-properties-gtk in gui19:37
BluesKajalkisg, ok thanks ...belated :-)20:29

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