lordievader | Good morning | 06:55 |
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daftykins | \o | 06:57 |
lordievader | Hey daftykins | 06:58 |
lordievader | Happy new year | 06:58 |
ducasse | morning all | 06:58 |
ducasse | happy new year lordievader | 06:58 |
daftykins | happy new year to you :) | 06:58 |
daftykins | hey ducasse :> good sleep? | 06:59 |
lordievader | Hey ducasse | 06:59 |
lordievader | Happy new year to you too, ducasse | 06:59 |
ducasse | daftykins: just an hour or two, damn insomnia... | 06:59 |
daftykins | :( | 07:00 |
jink | Gelukkig nieuwjaar, stelletje prutsers. ^__^ | 07:27 |
daftykins | that's one weird lingo | 07:29 |
BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:24 |
pauljw | good morning BluesKaj :) | 12:25 |
BluesKaj | 'Morning pauljw ...up early :-) | 12:26 |
BluesKaj | milder here, but windy | 12:30 |
pauljw | :) | 12:35 |
pauljw | colder here, -2F at the moment. not much wind though. | 12:36 |
BluesKaj | check this out https://www.facebook.com/robert.thiessen.58/videos/10155142709887517/ | 12:58 |
pauljw | heheh... very good! | 13:07 |
pauljw | good news here: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2018/01/private-internet-access-creator-london-trust-media-acquires-linux-journal/ | 13:08 |
BluesKaj | ok, i can tell just by the URL that it looks like good news already :-) | 13:11 |
pauljw | :) | 13:12 |
BluesKaj | very cool, glad to see this happen:-0 | 13:14 |
BluesKaj | err :-) | 13:14 |
pauljw | me too | 13:15 |
BluesKaj | shared the news in the main chat | 13:21 |
pauljw | that's cool | 13:24 |
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lotuspsychje | good evening to all | 16:32 |
BluesKaj | Hi lotuspsychje | 16:33 |
lotuspsychje | hey BluesKaj | 16:33 |
lotuspsychje | 1349 users nice | 16:33 |
BluesKaj | yeah, more new users needing help are able to join | 16:34 |
lotuspsychje | yay | 16:34 |
lotuspsychje | and a good 2018 to you all | 16:35 |
leftyfb | is it "universally accepted" to always be suggesting people install non-LTS over LTS? :) | 16:38 |
BluesKaj | same to you lotuspsychje :-) | 16:38 |
lotuspsychje | leftyfb: i always ask whats the users end goal? | 16:38 |
lotuspsychje | leftyfb: latest/testing vs stable/long time | 16:38 |
nacc | leftyfb: not universally accepted, no | 16:39 |
BluesKaj | leftyfb, never heard that one, depends on their situation | 16:39 |
nacc | i would even say, for the purposes of #ubuntu, the opposite is the universal (or more universal) default stance | 16:39 |
leftyfb | ok, good. That's what I thought | 16:39 |
nacc | with the obvious caveat that there is nothing stopping anyone from running non-LTS, they just need to know the implications (actually do release upgrades or reinstalls regularly) | 16:40 |
hggdh | leftyfb: my take is: if you are willing to upgrade every half-year, then yes, go non-lts. If you are a casual user, OTOH, stay with LTS | 16:41 |
nacc | hggdh: +1 | 16:41 |
hggdh | leftyfb: and yes, I followe the discussion on #u. | 16:42 |
hggdh | s/followe/&d/ | 16:42 |
leftyfb | I was mainly only validating what I already knew to be true | 16:42 |
hggdh | yep, understood | 16:42 |
lotuspsychje | some users with newer hardware would only be able to run non-lts in same cases | 16:43 |
lotuspsychje | *some | 16:43 |
lotuspsychje | so its good we have both options no? | 16:43 |
nacc | well, that's what hwe is for | 16:43 |
nacc | there will be a window of a few months where that might be true, you're right, lotuspsychje | 16:44 |
hggdh | (I have actually been on the devel release since 2006; but (1) I have a pretty good idea of the risks and (2) it was part of my work requirements or a while -- eat your dog food, and all) | 16:44 |
hggdh | lotuspsychje: yes, there are always reasons to go non-lts. But users should be aware that they will need to upgrade to +1 every half year. This is the warning I find missing when suggesting non-lts | 16:45 |
lotuspsychje | hggdh: you testing bionic also? | 16:45 |
hggdh | lotuspsychje: been running it pretty much since it opened | 16:46 |
hggdh | so far, no critical issues | 16:46 |
lotuspsychje | hggdh: nice one | 16:46 |
lotuspsychje | hggdh: im testing bionic on 3 machines myself | 16:46 |
lotuspsychje | hggdh: perhaps an idea to add non-lts to !artful codenames? | 16:47 |
lotuspsychje | !xenial | 16:48 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) is the current LTS release of Ubuntu. Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Read the release notes at https://ubottu.com/y/xenial | 16:48 |
hggdh | lotuspsychje: I am restricted to my work laptop, others are production | 16:48 |
lotuspsychje | 2 days till alpha1 :p | 16:50 |
BluesKaj | we've got a live one over at ##linux, doesn't which linux OS he's running :-) | 16:52 |
BluesKaj | doesn't know | 16:53 |
leftyfb | cat /etc/issue? lsb_release? | 16:54 |
BluesKaj | seems to be mint | 16:59 |
lotuspsychje | brrr | 16:59 |
hggdh | lotuspsychje: !bionic is there | 17:02 |
hggdh | leftyfb: just one last thing: opinions vary. So some will say go current release, others will not. I am not sure on how to address this | 17:03 |
leftyfb | I understand this | 17:03 |
leftyfb | And I definitely preface all my suggestions with I recommend or suggest or in my opnion | 17:04 |
hggdh | leftyfb: yes, sounds *very* sensible. I try to do the same | 17:05 |
BluesKaj | some users are so absolute ... it's fun to debate them sometimes | 17:08 |
BluesKaj | with them opinions are facts | 17:08 |
lotuspsychje | bbl | 17:50 |
lotuspsychje | JanC: alive? | 18:12 |
nicomachus | frozen solid | 18:13 |
lotuspsychje | :p | 18:13 |
lotuspsychje | trying to get my eid alive, but that belgian stuff | 18:14 |
lotuspsychje | wb BluesKaj | 18:22 |
pauljw | hey lotuspsychje :) | 18:23 |
BluesKaj | thanks lotuspsychje | 18:24 |
BluesKaj | nice, PIA now has 3 servers in Canada | 18:25 |
pauljw | nice, mine all seem so slow lately. | 18:26 |
BluesKaj | probly be adding more once the net neutrality becomes more and more disabled in the US | 18:26 |
BluesKaj | pauljw, I like the NYC and Florida servers, they seems to be the fastest from here | 18:27 |
pauljw | haven't tried florida, nyc does well sometimes. | 18:29 |
BluesKaj | Toronto and Montreal are fast as well due to my proximity to those | 18:30 |
pauljw | even the one i built on digitalocean is slow lately. | 18:30 |
pauljw | i'm here without any right now. | 18:31 |
pauljw | brb, let me try florida... | 18:31 |
lotuspsychje | hi Nokaji | 18:32 |
Nokaji | Greetings lotuspsychje of the third rock | 18:33 |
BluesKaj | Hi Nokaji | 18:34 |
pauljw | BluesKaj, florida is doing fine. thx. | 18:37 |
Nokaji | Hiyas BluesKaj | 18:37 |
BluesKaj | pauljw, good to hear...it's great for torrent DLs | 18:38 |
pauljw | :) | 18:39 |
lotuspsychje | nite nite guys | 19:20 |
BluesKaj | lordievader, does ubuntu have a "driver manager" app in it's system settings or .... ? | 19:35 |
alkisg | BluesKaj: ubuntu-drivers in console, software-properties-gtk in gui | 19:37 |
BluesKaj | alkisg, ok thanks ...belated :-) | 20:29 |
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