valorieif it seems frozen or something I try right-clicking the icon in the taskbar and quitting there00:01
valorieas I recall there is a kquitapp command too, but I've not tried that often enough to advise about it00:01
valorieand presumably that would only work for KDE applications, not firefox or so00:02
user|34859OLA BOA NOITE00:47
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botchHello...I don't suppose I could get a little assistance could I?01:34
DarinMillerbotch: I might be able to help.  Sup?01:36
botchWell, I came across one of those "Your computer is locked down" "Zues" virus pages.  It was in a Firefox page.  I cleared the history and cache, is there any threat on my Kubuntu 16.04 left?01:38
botchWell, the page was from Revcontent advertisement links01:38
DarinMillerbotch: most of the web threats are just scare ware attemting to provoke you to call or download their ransom ware.01:41
DarinMillerIf other websites behave normally, then I would not be concerned.   If could download viruskiller from teh repos or check some other virus programs such those listed here: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-linux-antivirus-programs/01:44
botchNormal web browsing is okay with no hiccups at the moment so I suppose I"m fine.  I'll look into possibly downloading an antivirus app from that page01:59
botchIf anything gets out of sorts, I'll just to a fresh install.  (I've got everything backed up on 2 portable harddrives)02:00
botchthank you for the link :)02:01
keyvinWhat should you do if you can't build a source package? File a bug against the package?02:24
lordievaderGood morning07:12
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RYDeNPFkubuntu or kde neon?09:31
RYDeNPFand why...09:31
lordievaderRYDeNPF: What ever you prefer. Both have their pros and cons.09:33
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RYDeNthanks lord....09:34
RYDeNand if you have to choose one?09:35
RYDeNanother question...09:36
RYDeNsometimes, the dashboar application does not open...09:37
RYDeNI click it and nothing happens09:37
lordievaderI have Neon on my test machine. But haven't used it in a while. (I'm not really the person to ask that question, rarely run Kubuntu-esque things these days)09:37
RYDeNwhat can I do?09:37
lordievaderThe dashboard application?09:37
RYDeNI dont speak english so...09:38
RYDeNthe place you clic so as to see all the applications09:38
lordievaderDo you mean the main menu?09:38
lordievaderOh, restarting plasmashell may help there (`kquitapp5 plasmashell; kstart5 plasmashell`)09:39
RYDeNI'm running plasma 5.1009:39
RYDeNis it a common bug?09:39
RYDeNit happened to me... twice in a week...09:39
RYDeNit is not a real problem... but... nevertheless, I don't like it at all... hehehe!09:41
RYDeN‎<‎lordievader‎>‎ Oh, restarting plasmashell may help there (`kquitapp5 plasmashell; kstart5 plasmashell`) ------- thanks!09:41
lordievaderDo you have backports enabled?09:42
acheronukRYDeN: no, not common. don't think I have had the menu go buggy like that09:43
RYDeNlordievader, nono, I don't have it...09:44
RYDeNthanks acheronuk!09:44
RYDeN‎[06:42] ‎<‎lordievader‎>‎ Do you have backports enabled? ----- Do you recommend it?09:46
acheronukbackports give you newer things, but we haven't usually been able to test them as thoroughly as the main packages. usually pretty stable though09:53
RYDeNthanks for your help!09:54
RYDeNI go to bed, see you!09:54
R13oseMy computer is showing a white on 3/4 of the screen and gray on 1/4 of the screen but can't access any programs to fix this.  Any ideas?11:39
lordievaderDoes a tty display correctly?11:56
R13oselordievader: yes11:58
lordievaderWhat graphics card(s) did you have?11:59
R13oselordievader: how do I tell?12:01
lordievaderR13ose: Pastebin the output of `sudo lspci -k`.12:01
user|86632Bom dia!12:02
user|86632Preciso de ajuda comprei um produto de vcs e preciso de suporte12:02
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user|86632Vocês não tem suporte no Brasil?12:03
R13oselordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26312590/12:04
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lordievaderR13ose: Hmm, an Intel. How is it connected to you monitor?12:07
R13oselordievader: laptop.12:08
lordievaderWhat version of Kubuntu?12:08
R13oselordievader: ^12:10
BluesKajHey folks12:11
lordievaderR13ose: Do you have the same issues in a live-environment?12:11
lordievaderHey BluesKaj , How are you doing?12:11
BluesKajHi lordievader, good here, how about you?12:12
R13oselordievader: this issue happens on and off.  I don't know about the live environment12:12
lordievaderBluesKaj: Doing good here 😁12:13
lordievaderR13ose: Hmm, no lead to a cause yet? (just out of standby or something)12:13
R13oselordievader: well something application crashed and then this happened but not sure if that is the cause each time.12:14
lordievaderSomething X related?12:14
lordievaderDoes a restart of X fix the problem?12:15
R13oselordievader: how?12:15
lordievaderIn a tty `sudo systemctl restart sddm`.12:15
R13oselordievader: done, now what?12:17
lordievaderSwitch back to tty7 if it did not do so automatically.12:18
R13oselordievader: nothing shows up12:18
lordievaderAs in a black screen?12:20
R13oselordievader: yep12:20
R13oseWait login showed up12:21
lordievaderR13ose: Did the command you just ran say anything about failurs?12:21
lordievaderfailures even12:21
R13oseNope nothing.  I am back in12:21
R13oseHow do I find out which app crashed?12:22
hateballR13ose: can look in ~/.xsession-errors12:26
hateballbut generally userland doesnt log that much12:26
R13oseI don't see that folder12:28
lordievaderR13ose: If you are lucky it is logged in the systemlog or in an applcation specific log... else... as hateball says.12:28
BluesKaj /var/log/syslog might show something12:29
hateballR13ose: it's a file, not a folder12:30
R13oseShould I Pastebin this?12:32
lordievaderR13ose: Is there anything interesting in it?12:51
R13oseSome but might be old.  The system log is for sure showing today errors12:52
lordievaderPastebin those errors12:54
R13oselordievader: which one?  The whole file?12:55
lordievaderNo the errors, you just mentioned "today's errors".12:56
R13oseWell that is all in the system log12:57
R13osefile that whole file12:58
BluesKajjust paste the lines thatr show errors12:58
R13oseI will if I see them12:59
oberthello,I have a big issue with kubuntu: I cannot connect to internet13:06
obertI click on the network icon tray to Connect and the button remains Connect13:07
BluesKajobert, ethernet or wifi ?13:16
obertBluesKaj: wifi13:18
BluesKajobert, some wifi drivers need to be downloaded from the internet like some broadcom/BCM drivers , so you need an temporary ethernet connection to do so.13:20
obertit stopped working this mornning13:20
BluesKajwhich wifi chip/13:20
hateballobert: if you've recently had a kernel update there might be a regression, or dkms modules might not have been built13:21
obertwhat is a chip?13:21
hateballobert: so you could try rebooting and picking an older kernel in grub menu13:21
oberthateball: I am a newbie on kubuntu I won't to touch grub13:21
Borw3Guys, whats benefit of Kubuntu over KDE neon?13:22
Borw3Will I be able to upgrade to Kubuntu 18.04 from 16.04 without fresh install?13:24
BluesKajBorw3, stability13:24
acheronukBorw3: yes, the aim is to support such upgrades13:25
Borw3I am asking cause from 14.04 to 16.04 I heard you could only do fresh installs.13:25
BluesKajBorw3, that was due to the change in plasma versions on 16.0413:27
acheronukthat was a plasma5/KDE4 ->  plasma5/KF5 upgrade, where the configs for some people were not seemingly compatible13:27
acheronukthis LTS -> LTS upgrade should not have that problem13:28
obertsorry rebooted13:31
BluesKajobert, wifi chip=wifi hardware13:32
obertthe router'13:32
BluesKajon the laptop13:32
BluesKajasumes it's a laptop13:33
Borw3archeronuk: How can one join and become a Kubuntu developer13:37
obertBluesKaj: it is a desktop13:39
BluesKajBorw3,  join #kubuntu-devel chat and ask there13:39
BluesKajobert, is it a wifi dongle or a pci ?13:39
obertI don't know13:40
Borw3By, the way , Riddel is back in Kubuntu team?13:42
BluesKajBorw3, I've seen him in the devel chat a few times lately, but hes not as active as he once was13:46
Borw3In Kubuntu website it says, he is a treasurer now... Is it current?13:47
BluesKajdon't think so13:47
acheronukYes, he never left that role13:48
acheronukbut that is more or less the only active capacity he has13:48
Borw3LOL, Does Kubuntu steal ideas from KDE neon?13:50
BluesKajwho knows ... does it matter? :-)13:52
Borw3Just curious13:55
lordievaderDon't they both just package KDE software?13:57
BluesKajBorw3, there's probly a back and forth of ideas between them, simce Riddel is active on both afaik13:57
BluesKajerr Riddell13:59
Borw3Will upgrading to kde 5.8.8 in Kubuntu LTS mess up future upgrades to 18.04?14:00
BluesKajplasma should upgrade smoothly ubless you're running a non-default kernel14:02
Borw3BluesKaj: By the way, you using KDE neon or Kubuntu?14:08
Borw3or none?14:09
BluesKajKubuntu Artful here14:10
BluesKajalso testing Kubuntu 18.04 Bionic14:11
BluesKajBorw3, ^14:11
Borw3Bionic chews more RAM compared to 16.04?14:12
BluesKajdunno. it's not particularly memory heavy14:13
Borw3How much it uses on boot?14:13
BluesKajnever checked14:15
BluesKajthe fans are quiet when it boots :-)14:17
R13oseThere is a sound coming from my touchpad on my laptop.  How do I stop this?15:44
R13oseI know I talked about this before but there should be a way non hardware wise15:46
EvI tried to upgrade to kubuntu14.04 overnight the other day. In the morning I had a message recommending I click to get rid of redundancies, and it will take about 4 hours. So, I used the computer all day with the plan to let get rid of the redundancies last night. Just before I could do this, my computer froze while in Facebook.  I tried closing ap15:57
Evps and escaping...finally getting a message to restart.  It froze at the screen that shows "kubuntu". I waited at least 10 minutes, and restarted holding down shift. I tried booting in recovery. Didn't work so I tried booting last version. Stuck at old gear-symbol screen. What should I do?15:57
BluesKajEv, tried to upgrade to 14.04 from ?16:00
EvI think something really old like 3.2.0 with KDE 4.8.516:01
EvLinux 3.2.016:02
BluesKajwhich kubuntu OS , was it 13.10?16:02
BluesKajor 12.04 LTS16:02
EvOS version Linux 3.2.0-101-generic16:03
BluesKajthat's the kernel16:04
EvShould I try to reboot and see what happens? Perhaps holding down shift again?16:05
BluesKajtry ctl+alt+F2 login then do, lsb_release -a16:05
BluesKajlooks like 12.04, which is end of life16:10
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades16:10
BluesKajEv, ^16:11
EvTroubles logging in.  Asking for cashe data failed. Assuming drive cache: write through.16:12
BluesKajhope you have your data backed up, because it looks like you need to do a clean install, and I recommend you install 16.04 which is more up to date than 14.0416:16
EvUnfortunately it is not all backed up16:17
EvI pressed restart and entered GRUB again. I'll try cleaning /tmp.16:21
EvIs there any danger to remounting "/ filesystem in read/write mode" and mounting "any other filesystem defined in/etc/fstab"?16:26
BluesKaji doubt it16:41
BluesKajthere's also nomodeset which might work16:42
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter16:42
BluesKajEv, ^16:43
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