[00:01] <valorie> if it seems frozen or something I try right-clicking the icon in the taskbar and quitting there
[00:01] <valorie> as I recall there is a kquitapp command too, but I've not tried that often enough to advise about it
[00:02] <valorie> and presumably that would only work for KDE applications, not firefox or so
[00:47] <user|34859> OLA BOA NOITE
[00:47] <user|34859> ALGUEM SABE ME INFORMAR SE A VERSAO 17 TEM OS DRIVER DO DELL VOSTRO 1000
[00:48] <user|34859> NAO TO CONSEGUINDO ENCONTRAR EM NENHUMM LUGAR SOBRE O ASSUNTO
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[01:34] <botch> Hello...I don't suppose I could get a little assistance could I?
[01:36] <DarinMiller> botch: I might be able to help.  Sup?
[01:38] <botch> Well, I came across one of those "Your computer is locked down" "Zues" virus pages.  It was in a Firefox page.  I cleared the history and cache, is there any threat on my Kubuntu 16.04 left?
[01:38] <botch> Well, the page was from Revcontent advertisement links
[01:41] <DarinMiller> botch: most of the web threats are just scare ware attemting to provoke you to call or download their ransom ware.
[01:44] <DarinMiller> If other websites behave normally, then I would not be concerned.   If could download viruskiller from teh repos or check some other virus programs such those listed here: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-linux-antivirus-programs/
[01:59] <botch> Normal web browsing is okay with no hiccups at the moment so I suppose I"m fine.  I'll look into possibly downloading an antivirus app from that page
[02:00] <botch> If anything gets out of sorts, I'll just to a fresh install.  (I've got everything backed up on 2 portable harddrives)
[02:01] <botch> thank you for the link :)
[02:24] <keyvin> What should you do if you can't build a source package? File a bug against the package?
[07:12] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:30] <RYDeNPF> hello
[09:31] <RYDeNPF> kubuntu or kde neon?
[09:31] <RYDeNPF> and why...
[09:33] <lordievader> RYDeNPF: What ever you prefer. Both have their pros and cons.
[09:34] <RYDeN> thanks lord....
[09:35] <RYDeN> and if you have to choose one?
[09:36] <RYDeN> another question...
[09:37] <RYDeN> sometimes, the dashboar application does not open...
[09:37] <RYDeN> I click it and nothing happens
[09:37] <lordievader> I have Neon on my test machine. But haven't used it in a while. (I'm not really the person to ask that question, rarely run Kubuntu-esque things these days)
[09:37] <RYDeN> what can I do?
[09:37] <lordievader> The dashboard application?
[09:37] <RYDeN> yes
[09:38] <RYDeN> I dont speak english so...
[09:38] <RYDeN> the place you clic so as to see all the applications
[09:38] <lordievader> Do you mean the main menu?
[09:38] <RYDeN> yes
[09:39] <lordievader> Oh, restarting plasmashell may help there (`kquitapp5 plasmashell; kstart5 plasmashell`)
[09:39] <RYDeN> I'm running plasma 5.10
[09:39] <RYDeN> is it a common bug?
[09:39] <RYDeN> it happened to me... twice in a week...
[09:41] <RYDeN> it is not a real problem... but... nevertheless, I don't like it at all... hehehe!
[09:41] <RYDeN> ‎<‎lordievader‎>‎ Oh, restarting plasmashell may help there (`kquitapp5 plasmashell; kstart5 plasmashell`) ------- thanks!
[09:42] <lordievader> Do you have backports enabled?
[09:42] <lordievader> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[09:43] <acheronuk> RYDeN: no, not common. don't think I have had the menu go buggy like that
[09:44] <RYDeN> lordievader, nono, I don't have it...
[09:44] <RYDeN> thanks acheronuk!
[09:46] <RYDeN> ‎[06:42] ‎<‎lordievader‎>‎ Do you have backports enabled? ----- Do you recommend it?
[09:53] <acheronuk> backports give you newer things, but we haven't usually been able to test them as thoroughly as the main packages. usually pretty stable though
[09:54] <RYDeN> thanks for your help!
[09:54] <RYDeN> I go to bed, see you!
[11:39] <R13ose> My computer is showing a white on 3/4 of the screen and gray on 1/4 of the screen but can't access any programs to fix this.  Any ideas?
[11:56] <lordievader> Does a tty display correctly?
[11:58] <R13ose> lordievader: yes
[11:59] <lordievader> What graphics card(s) did you have?
[12:01] <R13ose> lordievader: how do I tell?
[12:01] <lordievader> R13ose: Pastebin the output of `sudo lspci -k`.
[12:02] <user|86632> Bom dia!
[12:02] <user|86632> Preciso de ajuda comprei um produto de vcs e preciso de suporte
[12:02] <lordievader> !it | user|86632
[12:03] <user|86632> Vocês não tem suporte no Brasil?
[12:04] <R13ose> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26312590/
[12:04] <hateball> !br | user|86632
[12:07] <lordievader> R13ose: Hmm, an Intel. How is it connected to you monitor?
[12:08] <R13ose> lordievader: laptop.
[12:08] <lordievader> What version of Kubuntu?
[12:10] <R13ose> 17.10
[12:10] <R13ose> lordievader: ^
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:11] <lordievader> R13ose: Do you have the same issues in a live-environment?
[12:11] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj , How are you doing?
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hi lordievader, good here, how about you?
[12:12] <R13ose> lordievader: this issue happens on and off.  I don't know about the live environment
[12:13] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Doing good here 😁
[12:13] <lordievader> R13ose: Hmm, no lead to a cause yet? (just out of standby or something)
[12:13] <BluesKaj> 😃
[12:14] <R13ose> lordievader: well something application crashed and then this happened but not sure if that is the cause each time.
[12:14] <lordievader> Something X related?
[12:15] <lordievader> Does a restart of X fix the problem?
[12:15] <R13ose> lordievader: how?
[12:15] <lordievader> In a tty `sudo systemctl restart sddm`.
[12:17] <R13ose> lordievader: done, now what?
[12:18] <lordievader> Switch back to tty7 if it did not do so automatically.
[12:18] <R13ose> lordievader: nothing shows up
[12:20] <lordievader> As in a black screen?
[12:20] <R13ose> lordievader: yep
[12:20] <BluesKaj> ctl+alt+F7?
[12:21] <R13ose> Wait login showed up
[12:21] <lordievader> R13ose: Did the command you just ran say anything about failurs?
[12:21] <lordievader> failures even
[12:21] <R13ose> Nope nothing.  I am back in
[12:22] <R13ose> How do I find out which app crashed?
[12:26] <hateball> R13ose: can look in ~/.xsession-errors
[12:26] <hateball> but generally userland doesnt log that much
[12:28] <R13ose> I don't see that folder
[12:28] <lordievader> R13ose: If you are lucky it is logged in the systemlog or in an applcation specific log... else... as hateball says.
[12:29] <BluesKaj>  /var/log/syslog might show something
[12:30] <hateball> R13ose: it's a file, not a folder
[12:32] <R13ose> Should I Pastebin this?
[12:51] <lordievader> R13ose: Is there anything interesting in it?
[12:52] <R13ose> Some but might be old.  The system log is for sure showing today errors
[12:54] <lordievader> Pastebin those errors
[12:55] <R13ose> lordievader: which one?  The whole file?
[12:56] <lordievader> No the errors, you just mentioned "today's errors".
[12:57] <R13ose> Well that is all in the system log
[12:58] <R13ose> file that whole file
[12:58] <BluesKaj> just paste the lines thatr show errors
[12:59] <R13ose> I will if I see them
[13:06] <obert> hello,I have a big issue with kubuntu: I cannot connect to internet
[13:07] <obert> I click on the network icon tray to Connect and the button remains Connect
[13:16] <BluesKaj> obert, ethernet or wifi ?
[13:18] <obert> BluesKaj: wifi
[13:20] <BluesKaj> obert, some wifi drivers need to be downloaded from the internet like some broadcom/BCM drivers , so you need an temporary ethernet connection to do so.
[13:20] <obert> it stopped working this mornning
[13:20] <BluesKaj> which wifi chip/
[13:21] <hateball> obert: if you've recently had a kernel update there might be a regression, or dkms modules might not have been built
[13:21] <obert> what is a chip?
[13:21] <hateball> obert: so you could try rebooting and picking an older kernel in grub menu
[13:21] <obert> hateball: I am a newbie on kubuntu I won't to touch grub
[13:22] <Borw3> Guys, whats benefit of Kubuntu over KDE neon?
[13:24] <Borw3> Will I be able to upgrade to Kubuntu 18.04 from 16.04 without fresh install?
[13:24] <BluesKaj> Borw3, stability
[13:25] <acheronuk> Borw3: yes, the aim is to support such upgrades
[13:25] <Borw3> I am asking cause from 14.04 to 16.04 I heard you could only do fresh installs.
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Borw3, that was due to the change in plasma versions on 16.04
[13:27] <acheronuk> that was a plasma5/KDE4 ->  plasma5/KF5 upgrade, where the configs for some people were not seemingly compatible
[13:28] <acheronuk> this LTS -> LTS upgrade should not have that problem
[13:31] <obert> sorry rebooted
[13:32] <BluesKaj> obert, wifi chip=wifi hardware
[13:32] <obert> the router'
[13:32] <obert> ?
[13:32] <BluesKaj> on the laptop
[13:33] <BluesKaj> asumes it's a laptop
[13:37] <Borw3> archeronuk: How can one join and become a Kubuntu developer
[13:39] <obert> BluesKaj: it is a desktop
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Borw3,  join #kubuntu-devel chat and ask there
[13:39] <BluesKaj> obert, is it a wifi dongle or a pci ?
[13:40] <obert> I don't know
[13:42] <Borw3> By, the way , Riddel is back in Kubuntu team?
[13:46] <BluesKaj> Borw3, I've seen him in the devel chat a few times lately, but hes not as active as he once was
[13:47] <Borw3> In Kubuntu website it says, he is a treasurer now... Is it current?
[13:47] <BluesKaj> don't think so
[13:48] <acheronuk> Yes, he never left that role
[13:48] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:48] <acheronuk> but that is more or less the only active capacity he has
[13:50] <Borw3> LOL, Does Kubuntu steal ideas from KDE neon?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> who knows ... does it matter? :-)
[13:55] <Borw3> Just curious
[13:57] <lordievader> Don't they both just package KDE software?
[13:57] <BluesKaj> Borw3, there's probly a back and forth of ideas between them, simce Riddel is active on both afaik
[13:58] <BluesKaj> since
[13:59] <BluesKaj> err Riddell
[14:00] <Borw3> Will upgrading to kde 5.8.8 in Kubuntu LTS mess up future upgrades to 18.04?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> plasma should upgrade smoothly ubless you're running a non-default kernel
[14:02] <BluesKaj> unless
[14:08] <Borw3> BluesKaj: By the way, you using KDE neon or Kubuntu?
[14:09] <Borw3> or none?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu Artful here
[14:11] <BluesKaj> also testing Kubuntu 18.04 Bionic
[14:11] <BluesKaj> Borw3, ^
[14:12] <Borw3> Bionic chews more RAM compared to 16.04?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> dunno. it's not particularly memory heavy
[14:13] <Borw3> How much it uses on boot?
[14:15] <BluesKaj> never checked
[14:17] <BluesKaj> the fans are quiet when it boots :-)
[15:44] <R13ose> There is a sound coming from my touchpad on my laptop.  How do I stop this?
[15:46] <R13ose> I know I talked about this before but there should be a way non hardware wise
[15:57] <Ev> I tried to upgrade to kubuntu14.04 overnight the other day. In the morning I had a message recommending I click to get rid of redundancies, and it will take about 4 hours. So, I used the computer all day with the plan to let get rid of the redundancies last night. Just before I could do this, my computer froze while in Facebook.  I tried closing ap
[15:57] <Ev> ps and escaping...finally getting a message to restart.  It froze at the screen that shows "kubuntu". I waited at least 10 minutes, and restarted holding down shift. I tried booting in recovery. Didn't work so I tried booting last version. Stuck at old gear-symbol screen. What should I do?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> Ev, tried to upgrade to 14.04 from ?
[16:01] <Ev> I think something really old like 3.2.0 with KDE 4.8.5
[16:02] <Ev> Linux 3.2.0
[16:02] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu OS , was it 13.10?
[16:02] <BluesKaj> or 12.04 LTS
[16:02] <Ev> idk
[16:03] <Ev> OS version Linux 3.2.0-101-generic
[16:04] <BluesKaj> that's the kernel
[16:05] <Ev> Should I try to reboot and see what happens? Perhaps holding down shift again?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> try ctl+alt+F2 login then do, lsb_release -a
[16:10] <BluesKaj> looks like 12.04, which is end of life
[16:10] <BluesKaj> !eol
[16:11] <BluesKaj> Ev, ^
[16:12] <Ev> Troubles logging in.  Asking for cashe data failed. Assuming drive cache: write through.
[16:16] <BluesKaj> hope you have your data backed up, because it looks like you need to do a clean install, and I recommend you install 16.04 which is more up to date than 14.04
[16:17] <Ev> Unfortunately it is not all backed up
[16:21] <Ev> I pressed restart and entered GRUB again. I'll try cleaning /tmp.
[16:26] <Ev> Is there any danger to remounting "/ filesystem in read/write mode" and mounting "any other filesystem defined in/etc/fstab"?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> i doubt it
[16:42] <BluesKaj> there's also nomodeset which might work
[16:42] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset
[16:43] <BluesKaj> Ev, ^
[17:52] <arran> hello
[20:42] <Agshin> j
[20:42] <Agshin> lol