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omairqazihi05:37
omairqazithere is a problem in lubuntu 18.0405:38
lubotvaibhavsingh was added by: vaibhavsingh05:57
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @vaibhavsingh, o/10:28
lubot<VikingRedwolf> have you guys seen this?10:36
lubothttps://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/10:36
Guest64987Hey, guys. I've noticed that the magnet link for the LTS version if for the 14.04.2 instead of 14.04.3, which is the release that is displayed on the download page11:44
Guest64987*is for the 14.04.211:44
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @Guest64987, What architecture? If it's wrong i must fix it 😏12:04
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Some 14.04.3 ISOs are not available, only 14.04.212:06
lubot<VikingRedwolf> But I'll have a look. Thanks for noticing.12:13
lubot<VikingRedwolf> All links seem fine to me. Can you, please, point which one you think is wrong?12:48
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf Ooh, he could be talking about Lubuntu.net12:55
lubot<VikingRedwolf> LOL12:55
redwolfhe's offline anyways12:55
wxlm4sk1n: what did you do to make things so darn pretty? :) https://i.m4sk.in/image/Z9U16:08
m4sk1nwxl: just adapta theme, paper icons, roboto font and default compton configuration16:11
wxlcuz that's pretty16:11
wxl@VikingRedwolf ^^^ look at what m4sk1n did16:12
wxli like the wallpaper a lot, too. reminds me of recent kubuntu stuff.16:12
m4sk1nit’s generic material design wallpaper from adapta-backgrounds16:13
lubot<tsimonq2> Meh16:19
lubot<tsimonq2> Not a fan of material design personally :)16:19
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I see, wxl. but I see some problems there:16:23
lubot1. I see no widgets, so I don't know what theme it is (I see only a terminal)16:23
lubot2. transparency is a no no. I let that for end users (and why is  the tray icons background black and the clock isn't?)16:23
lubot3. excessively flat themes make things unreadable (you can't distinguish a menu from a window title or even a button)16:23
lubot4. that wallpaper is from Google 😐16:23
wxlwell, *I* think it's pretty so blah16:27
lubot<Wolfenprey> It seems flat themes are "the thing" right now16:32
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Right. It's a trendy thing. In a few years, or even months, we'll see an old screenshot and we'll say "eeewwww"17:11
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Look at this:17:12
lubot<VikingRedwolf> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3302.gif17:12
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Flat enough, isn't it? It's olvwm, one of the best window managers ever invented. It's 20 years old.17:13
lubot<Wolfenprey> for sure, i remember that time where all the screenshots or videos was full of ultra conkys, cube 3D, tron decorations with flames woobly windows and moving icons.17:13
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Right XD17:13
lubot<VikingRedwolf> That gtk1 with wooden texture17:14
wxlnew designs are often easily appreciated, but whether or not they'll stand the test of time is the question17:14
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @Wolfenprey, I still love Tron :|17:14
lubot<Wolfenprey> i like something balanced, all functionality17:14
lubot<Wolfenprey> @VikingRedwolf, (me too... but ssshhh)17:15
wxldo not be embarassed about tron17:15
wxlnow if you're going to tell me you like the look of STTNG GUIs, i'm going to freaking hit you.17:15
lubot<Wolfenprey> @wxl, well, first i have to know what is, XD17:17
wxl@Wolfenprey http://www.forestfriend.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/ingr_lcars_sovereign.jpg17:19
wxlthe colors alone make me homicidal17:20
lubot<Wolfenprey> too much for my senses...17:20
wxlhere's an actual screenshot from the show when they first installed it http://a.fastcompany.net/multisite_files/fastcompany/imagecache/1280/poster/2013/12/3022935-poster-1280-trek.jpg17:20
lubot<Wolfenprey> XD17:20
wxlyou laugh but i have seen COUNTLESS themes created based on it17:21
lubot<acheronuk> urgh...17:37
m4sk1n@VikingRedwolf this background isn’t from google, it’s by author of this theme18:20
m4sk1nbut almost every material design wallpaper looks the sams18:20
m4sk1ns/sams/same/18:20
m4sk1nXD18:23
lubot<Wolfenprey> @m4sk1n, It reminds me a sort of mixture between android with Manjaro colors wallpaper.18:28
m4sk1nIt was just my temporary config for vm… :P18:29
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @wxl, I LIKE IT19:36
lubot<VikingRedwolf> .___.19:36
lubot<Wolfenprey> ...19:37
lubot<Wolfenprey> i prefer the olvwm look19:38
lubot<VikingRedwolf> :)19:38
lubot<VikingRedwolf> the maximum functionality, speed and performance was, in my opinion, WindowMaker19:38
lubot<VikingRedwolf> 1 square = 1 app. perdiod.19:38
lubot<VikingRedwolf> https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uWpN-R2AEWQ/VUnqCnVlkQI/AAAAAAAAAZQ/Xz2cnK88AWg/s1600/Screenshot%2Bfrom%2B2015-05-01%2B14%3A43%3A50.png19:39
lubot<VikingRedwolf> they called it... """DOCK"""19:40
lubot<VikingRedwolf> .__.19:40
lubot<Wolfenprey> lol19:40
lubot<Wolfenprey> but for sure it works19:40
lubot<Wolfenprey> and dont need a NASA COMPUTER for move a window19:40
lubot<VikingRedwolf> exactly. shadows? naah. composition? naah. effects? naaaaah19:41
lubot<VikingRedwolf> but still I managed to make the Lubuntu compositor to work on WindowMaker. it looked awesome19:42
lubot<Wolfenprey> i remember i used openbox a lot , cant remember the distro19:42
wxlARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT NUHBUNTU????19:42
lubot<VikingRedwolf> also, starting GIMP in WM was like... instant, telepathic19:42
lubot<VikingRedwolf> 0.00001 seconds19:42
lubot<Wolfenprey> @VikingRedwolf, mmm al that on a SSD19:42
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @wxl, NUH!19:43
wxlXD19:43
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @Wolfenprey, stop! I'm getting horny!19:43
lubot<Wolfenprey> oh yes19:43
lubot<Wolfenprey> lol19:43
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @VikingRedwolf, you expected that, right?19:43
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I claim a Lubuntu for us, mental dumb blondes... DUMBUNTU!19:43
lubot<Wolfenprey> well i remember FUduntu19:45
lubot<VikingRedwolf> O__O19:45
lubot<Wolfenprey> yep, a fedora with gnome2 based distro19:45
lubot<VikingRedwolf> oh yes!19:45
lubot<VikingRedwolf> and all those PuppyLinux flavours / spins: pups19:46
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I had GrafPup installed for years!!19:46
lubot<VikingRedwolf> the only Linux designed for graphic designers. only graphic design. no multimedia shit19:46
wxlewwwwwwwww19:47
wxlalso language please19:47
lubot<VikingRedwolf> with Pantone® support, colour table editors, etc etc19:47
lubot<VikingRedwolf> sorry :(19:47
lubot<VikingRedwolf> aalso, why eewww?19:47
lubot<VikingRedwolf> GrafPup was amazing19:48
wxlpuppy anything is ew19:48
lubot<VikingRedwolf> https://distrowatch.com/images/cgfjoewdlbc/grafpup.png19:48
lubot<VikingRedwolf> not this19:48
wxlyou're making me physically ill19:49
lubot<VikingRedwolf> XD19:49
lubot<Wolfenprey> @VikingRedwolf, i used somethin similar, but only full with emulators XD19:49
lubot<VikingRedwolf> :)19:49
lubot<VikingRedwolf> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3304.mp419:50
lubot<Wolfenprey> dat icons...19:51
lubot<VikingRedwolf> TANGO!19:51
lubot<tsimonq2> (Sticker, 512x426) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_330520:01
lubot<tsimonq2> Accidentally posted that lol20:02
wxlit's ok. it's just a BIN file20:02
wxloooh trojans LOVE port 8080 https://www.speedguide.net/port.php?port=808020:07
tsimonq2wxl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1734147/comments/439 and the bug description have working fixes that restores the BIOS functionality of affected systems22:40
ubot93Launchpad bug 1734147 in linux (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 17.10 corrupting BIOS - many LENOVO laptops models" [Critical, Confirmed]22:40
wxlwaaay beyond you buddy22:43
wxli'm now looking into the fact that the version suggested also fixes the so-called Intel Bug22:43
tsimonq2Oh? What have you discovered?22:44
tsimonq2Ooooooooooooh22:44
tsimonq2@Schyken ^^^^^^22:44
tsimonq2wxl: What's your opinion on people failing ISO QA tests because instructions are slightly incorrect?22:50
tsimonq2wxl: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/384/builds/163656/testcases/1689/results for ref22:50
wxlwhat do you think my opinion is?22:52
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tsimonq2Sorry everyone...23:35
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lubot<Schyken> GUYS - I KNOW WHY I COULD USE UEFI23:38
lubot<Schyken> So, I've been looking into this Meltdown thing, and ofc checking my CPUs, things like that... My BIOS/UEFI locks LegacyOPROM into an enabled state, even when explicitly told to be disabled.23:40
lubot<Schyken> Looks like there's an update available for it since October :/23:41
wxlnot exactly. they've been working on it since about october23:41
lubot<Alon Ganon> Anyone have an idea how I can package python into deb? I’m trying to get Bitcoin Electrum and other Electrim wallets packaged into a PPA for the Liberty Wallet OS so users can easily install and upgrade. I tried using FPM and Debianize to no avail23:42
wxlhere's the announcement for the Linux that includes the fix https://lwn.net/Articles/742449/23:42
lubot<Schyken> Oh great 😢23:42
wxlAbout half the rc623:43
wxlwork is x86 updates.23:43
wxl^^^23:43
wxlby x86 he means KPTI23:43
lubot<tsimonq2> @Alon Ganon, Try browsing through here: https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/23:43
lubot<Alon Ganon> Thanks I’ll take a look23:44
wxlyou could also try making a snap out of it23:44
lubot<Alon Ganon> Oh that’s a good idea never thought about it23:44
wxlor a flatpak23:44
tsimonq2Or an AppImage23:45
wxloh! you mean a klik!23:45
wxlyou only like that because it's developed by a guy named simon.23:45
lubot<Alon Ganon> I always forget about snap and such packages that actually could have some additional security benefits too I guess23:46
tsimonq2Meh23:47

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