[00:15] <c00lwhip> Hey all, had a quick question, I want some files encrpyted, i woulle like ot use gpg naturally, but gaining root on this box allow that user to access it's OS keychain. Anyone know how ot use gpg but not input the possphrase into the keychain?
[00:16] <c00lwhip> my fea is someone steals my box, drops to to init 1, changes the root, gains access to the keychain, and then they got access to my gpg protected files
[00:16] <shadoxx> ikonia: fyi, i was able to get on-the-fly hostname changing to work without a reboot
[00:18] <lotuspsychje> !gpg | c00lwhip can this help?
[00:20] <hggdh> c00lwhip: you have at least two options: (1) save the gpg keys in removeable storage; (2) encrypt your harddrive
[00:21] <hggdh> c00lwhip: also, the passphrase is not stored in the key chain, I think you were referring to the private key
[00:22] <Neo1> on ubuntu server we can install Moinmoin wiki server
[00:22] <Neo1> is it will like real wikipedia site?
[00:23] <c00lwhip> hggh the problem is I encrypt a file. gpg access for me to input th epassword twice as it should. Then when I go to decrypt it, it just does it. Doesn't prompt me for a password for anything
[00:23] <Neo1> I'm reading ubuntu server and now LAMP aplications
[00:23] <Neo1> MoinMoin is good
[00:24] <lotuspsychje> Neo1: we have #ubuntu-server you can ask perhaps
[00:24] <c00lwhip> Maybe I just don't know how it works entirely. If I move the gpg encrypted file to another machine, thne they are uable to open it, whcih is great. But I want users of this mchine to need the enter the passphrase as well
[00:25] <dax> as far as i know it's only saved in memory and goes away on logout
[00:25] <dax> i don't have a lot of experience with it though
[00:30] <c00lwhip>  dax I will try that
[00:30] <c00lwhip> dax, thanks
[00:31] <nacc> c00lwhip: dax: i believe that's all controlled by the (new and required in gpg2) gpg-agent, no?
[00:31] <nacc> I believe you can configure how long that stays resident for, etc.
[00:45] <mostpalone> hey boys
[01:12] <roadrunneratwast> hi .  i have a few questions .  i am not sure if it is my samsung 9 laptop or ubuntu 16.04.  the biggest issue is this:  while i am typing, the mouse will suddenly jump up four or five lines and select the region. i wind up deleting a bunch of text and have to undo it.  i am not sure if this is a touchpad sensitivity matter.  has anyone experienced similar ever?
[01:14] <barracuda> easy peasy; disable the touchpad
[01:15] <barracuda> (if you really meant the cursor, because if your mouse is jumping, you might want to go for .357)
[01:19] <JoshuaD> xubuntu 17.10: After restarting my computer, when I launch my browser for the first time (iridium) I get a prompt saying "Your keyring was not unlocked at login. Enter password to unlock."
[01:19] <JoshuaD> any way to make that stop happening?
[01:19] <JoshuaD> auto-login is disabled already
[01:20] <administrador> hola
[01:29] <gowri> anybody from india?
[01:29] <lotuspsychje> !in | gowri
[01:30] <kenrin> JoshuaD: You can open passwords and keys then set the password to "blank" as in no password.  It is not recommend though as it stores passwords unencrypted I think
[01:30] <JoshuaD> @kenrin: is there a way to do it that is secure?
[01:32] <kenrin> I don't know.  I just disabled my auto login so it would unlock the ring the same time as my desktop
[01:33] <kenrin> Honesly though,  if you don't care about the password save feature on the browser you shouldn't have any passwords that would be stored unecrypted in the ring
[01:56] <pstk__> hi
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> pstk__: welcome, how can we help you?
[01:56] <pstk__> I'm running ubunt 17. I have a camera plugged in PTP mode
[01:57] <pstk__> And in nautilus, no thumbnail ...
[01:58] <pstk__> https://lut.im/8Tbpn992xC/XLSPZfR9rlIrH3Df.png
[01:58] <pstk__> can you help me ?
[01:58] <kk4ewt> tweaktool and add the gnome-shell extension that does that
[02:00] <pstk__> kk4ewt: told to me?
[02:21] <whitebeast> so i put another hardrive in my computer, i went to gparted and and formatted it to fat32 and now its just gone. cant find it anywhere
[02:22] <whitebeast> im running 16.04
[02:24] <lordcirth_> whitebeast, "gone"?  What does 'lsblk -f' show?
[02:27] <whitebeast> lordcirth https://paste.ubuntu.com/26310272/
[02:30] <whitebeast> i have 3 drives in there 2 80g and 1 other.. its one of the 80 gb that dissapeard after i formatted it
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> whitebeast: did you refresh gparted
[02:31] <whitebeast> wouldnt an entire system restart take care of that?
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> whitebeast: you can try, but i mean after gparted format try to apply and refresh or so?
[02:35] <Guest41427> whatsapp
[02:35] <whitebeast> lotus i just refreshed and its still not there
[02:35] <Guest41427> this mr one nine
[02:36] <Guest41427> show \
[02:36] <Guest41427> hey
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> whitebeast: check your syslog?
[02:37] <whitebeast> how do i go about doing that?
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> whitebeast: /var/log/syslog or the logviewer icon
[02:39] <theorem> where should I hang out to talk about graphics drivers ?
[02:39] <whitebeast> same question here for theorem's question
[02:39] <theorem> I can't get ubuntu 16.04
[02:39] <theorem> to recognize my AMD graphics card
[02:40] <whitebeast> lotus is there a way to go back in time on the syslog?
[02:42] <teward> 'go back in time on the syslog' what?
[02:42] <teward> whitebeast: the syslog is on a logrotate schedule.  if it was in yesterday's syslog you'd have to go read through /var/log/syslog.1 or similar
[02:43] <teward> if you want ot read syslog from ten minutes ago, just read /var/log/syslog and don't tail the end, just hunt for the timestamp you were after
[02:43] <teward> but no there's not another way to 'go back in time' on the syslog.
[02:43] <teward> it isn't a time machine
[02:45] <whitebeast> thanks teward but it the event happend before it updated. i need to go back to ( such as yesterday )
[02:46] <Jakethepython> other than what packages are installed and the gui is there a real differnece between ubuntu desktop and server?
[02:46] <lordcirth> Jakethepython, very little.  A few default settings are different, I think?
[02:47] <Jakethepython> ok thank you
[02:48] <chronos> hello! I build a mining rig with ubuntu server but I'm having trouble with ports because in the place the server is hosted the ISP blocks ports 3333, 5555 that are used by mining app (xmr-stak). Then I set a openvpn connection  where client is the server and host is my office router (linksys wrt ac1200), and the connection looks like works but I can't route any traffic through that openvpn connection.
[02:49] <chronos> How I can route it with UFW? I already tried some articles on web but no luck :\
[02:49] <Bashing-om> theorem: AMD drivers are in the kernel now . What release are you running ?
[02:51] <whitebeast> teward. im using the icon. in the terminal it says :permission denied
[02:56] <good_cookies> hi. i need software to copy and paste various texts
[02:57] <good_cookies> like when i type something, i need 3 or more links to be in buffer so i can just paste them in th text im currently woking right now
[03:00] <good_cookies> so far i designed for myself this solution: it should be a drop-down list, like a panel in the corners with icons. so, when i click the icon, it loads my buffer with icon-related link
[03:00] <good_cookies> or hotkeys on keyboard
[03:01] <good_cookies> the question is: how to make this kind of an app/plugin or if there already exist something like this
[03:02] <KrisWood> Hello everyone!
[03:03] <KrisWood> Has anyone here set up Cisco vWLC on Ubuntu before?
[03:03] <ecormier> good_cookies: clipman/clipit etc...
[04:32] <explodes> Did I get owned?
[04:32] <explodes> 10 minutes ago: https://pastebin.com/VQ8GAtkj
[04:32] <explodes> now : https://pastebin.com/nFXAhw0M
[04:33] <explodes> Freaking tor?
[04:33] <lordcirth> explodes, what Ubuntu release are you running, and why do you believe you may have been 'owned'?
[04:33] <lordcirth> Ah, you didn't install tor?
[04:33] <explodes> Nope.
[04:34] <explodes> Wasn't running tor less than an hour- literally just happened...
[04:34] <lordcirth> explodes, what Ubuntu release?
[04:35] <explodes> nginx is gone too
[04:35] <explodes> I have spent the last fucking week setting this up
[04:35] <explodes> 17.04
[04:35] <explodes> I have been pwned...
[04:36] <lordcirth> explodes, do you have ssh exposed to the internet, or any other obvious method of compromise?  Also, just double check that you're not ssh'd somewhere? lol
[04:37] <explodes> I am so stupid
[04:37] <explodes> I'm ok
[04:37] <explodes> I rebooted
[04:37] <lordcirth> Wrong machine?
[04:38] <explodes> yes.
[04:38] <explodes> i thought I reconnected
[04:38] <explodes> i'm relieved and ashamed all at the same time
[04:38] <lordcirth> lol.  For the record, every few days someone comes in asking if they've been rooted, and the answer has always been 'no' in my experience
[04:38] <lordcirth> Scarier thought: actual compromises don't advertise themselves
[04:39] <explodes> yea. it did happen once on digital ocean, though. DO said "sorry, we wiped your machine"
[04:41] <lordcirth> explodes, you may find it useful to change the color of the prompt on different machines
[04:41] <explodes> i was just thinking that omg
[04:41] <explodes> This doesn't explain why nginx isn't starting anymore tho
[04:42] <explodes> googling it, but: Failed to start nginx.service: Unit nginx.service is masked.
[04:59] <Majost> Are sysctl settings for the most part non-configurable from within the context of a LXD/LXC container?
[05:02] <ChronDon88> Ok. I signed up for this free thing a year ago and they gave me a mini pc for free (I think they were doing sketchy stuff some sort of russian clickfarm stuff) Idk I got my 50 bux and disconnected the thing. Anywase they gave me this mini PC. It's a stripped down version of a MK902II. I called and asked for the password the guy was pretty sketch which I was expecting and said he didnt know and hung up. So... I want to use the thing not throw it away
[05:02] <ChronDon88> so what are my options
[05:03] <ChronDon88> It has 1 USB,1 HDMI, 1 Power in and 1 eithernet thats it. It looks like more could be sodered on (for a future project)
[05:04] <ChronDon88> It's running ubuntu 14.1 utopic
[05:04] <ChronDon88> I can only log in on guest
[05:05] <ChronDon88> Heres a picture of the mini pc
[05:05] <ChronDon88> https://i.imgur.com/QWy8TWW.jpg
[05:06] <ChronDon88> I was just going to try and use it for IRC/Discord channels that I am an admin of
[05:07] <rfleming> ChronDon88: boot into recovery mode then passwd root
[05:07] <rfleming> ChronDon88: google something like ubuntu recovery mode change root password
[05:07] <ChronDon88> I have tryed this It seems to not go into recovery mode
[05:08] <ChronDon88> I hold shift and it just boots normaly
[05:08] <ChronDon88> Could I log on guest and download a .c file of a root exploit (seeing how this is an older version of ubuntu) would that work?
[05:08] <ChronDon88> like "rooting" an android device
[05:10] <DalekSec> If that's the case I'd go for a re-install since you don't know what could be on there.
[05:10] <ChronDon88> I also have to switch between a mouse and keyboard because I do not have a dongal with mouse and keyboard so i either use the mouse or keyboard lol
[05:10] <ChronDon88> I kinda want to know what sketchy stuff they were up too... I mean they did abandan it for over 8 months and I called today and the guy wanted nothing to do with me.
[05:11] <ChronDon88> (probably closer to 6 months)
[05:11] <ChronDon88> I did find some stuff pointing to a russian click farm?
[05:12] <ChronDon88> May I pm you rfleming?
[05:13] <rfleming> ChronDon88: I'm not much of a recovery expert...
[05:13] <rfleming> I don't know more than to Google :)
[05:13] <ChronDon88> is this a rooting thing like an android root?
[05:13] <ChronDon88> https://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/42276/
[05:14] <ChronDon88> If I just ran that would it do anything?
[05:14] <ChronDon88> I'm a linux/ubuntu nub
[05:18] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> can anyone help me getting back the grub in dual boot
[05:20] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> I've dual booted it with windows and tried many things with other friend
[05:20] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> but its not working at all
[05:20] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> I've a HP laptop
[05:20] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> and when I option boot options and select going to Ubuntu the grub shows up
[05:21] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> but on normal startup grub doesn't show up and laptop directly boots into windows
[05:22] <dv`_> in the bios you need to select whatever disk you installed grub/ubuntu on as the first boot device
[05:22] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> I don't see such option in Bios
[05:23] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> the UEFI boot order shows the "Notebook hard drive" at the top of the list
[05:24] <enko> Tapuboy_ubuntu, doesn't sound like grub was installed on the boot partition.
[05:25] <ChronDon88> is the only way to get into recovery mode by taping shift?
[05:25] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> well I took instructions from someone, and it actually did installed in the boot partition but I'm not that much intelligent you are right though! please suggest something
[05:25] <ChronDon88> or holding shift while rebooting?
[05:25] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> no not even by shit
[05:26] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> shift*
[05:26] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> I can get into it by pausing the start up and then pressing F9 for boot options
[05:27] <enko> Tapuboy_ubuntu, if you can get to grub manually that means it's installed, if you cant automatically that meants the wrong disk is selected for bootup OR you didn't install grub to the primary disk boot partition.
[05:27] <ChronDon88> how do you pause?
[05:27] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> and boot options shows all 3 options http://ibb.co/dMH9Bb see this i posted the image
[05:28] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> oh ok ok while installing Ubuntu 16.04 I've made /boot, /, /home, and swap
[05:28] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> I pause with keep hitting ESC button just when I power up the machine
[05:30] <ChronDon88> so I press f9 and I get ubuntu 14.1 and 4 dots then it boots normaly
[05:30] <ChronDon88> so f9 pauses it?
[05:31] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> yes F9 does but it opens the boot options menu as shown in this image http://ibb.co/dMH9Bb
[05:32] <ChronDon88> I dont get that
[05:32] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> ChoronDon88 uhOh okay
[05:32] <ChronDon88> I get ubuntu 14.1 and then 4 dots then it boots normaly
[05:32] <ChronDon88> but the f9 does something
[05:33] <ChronDon88> like pauses it
[05:33] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> enko what do you recommend
[05:33] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> chrondon88 yes it does
[05:33] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> dv`_, what do you recommend?
[05:35] <enko> Tapuboy_ubuntu, reinstall grub to the correct partition?
[05:35] <Tapuboy_ubuntu> how do I do that? do you recommend grub_repair_tool
[05:40] <ChronDon88> WOW you need to be connect to the internet to get this menu?
[05:41] <xorgnak> no, but you do need to be connected to the internet to reinstall it.
[05:42] <ChronDon88> for some reason I can not get into recovery mode
[05:43] <vrinda> i need some help about docker.  i am running in locahost and how to pull debian image in docker?
[05:53] <ChronDon88> what is rooting called in ubuntu
[05:53] <xorgnak_> escalated privilege
[05:54] <ChronDon88> how do I open a terminal
[05:56] <ChronDon88> cloud
[06:13] <ChronDon88> https://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/36820/'
[06:13] <ChronDon88> how can I make that work
[06:14] <EriC^^> !topic | ChronDon88
[06:15] <ChronDon88> so 14.1 is not official?
[06:24] <ChronDon88> what does a .c file do?
[06:24] <ChronDon88> is it like a windows .exe?
[06:25] <mutante> ChronDon88: no, it's more like a .txt. the source code itself, not the executable
[06:26] <hateball> a file extension by itself doesnt really say anything either, but .c is usually source indeed
[06:26] <ChronDon88> how do I make a .c like an .exe file
[06:26] <mutante> ChronDon88: the file extensions isnt that important in Linux, unlike Windows.  try the "file" command to check what it is or just open it with a text editor
[06:26] <hateball> ChronDon88: compile it with gcc or whatever you like
[06:26] <mutante> ChronDon88: using a compiler, gcc
[06:26] <hateball> !compile | ChronDon88
[06:27] <ChronDon88> !packages
[06:27] <ChronDon88> !checkinstall
[06:28] <ChronDon88> I cant use sudo becaues I don't have root accuse to this computer
[06:28] <ChronDon88> I'm trying to get root
[06:28] <ChronDon88> without the password and I can not boot into recovery for some reason
[06:40] <enko> >coins
[06:40] <enko> >bet 500
[06:44] <USBRevTether> Hi.. Please help me with Reverse tethering? Executing this commands, in simple noob language
[06:44] <USBRevTether> https://medium.com/genymobile/gnirehtet-reverse-tethering-android-2afacdbdaec7
[06:44] <USBRevTether> https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/71ks57/gnirehtet_a_reverse_tethering_tool_for_android/
[07:24] <ChronDon88> how to do install something on ubuntu
[07:25] <ducasse> !software
[07:25] <ChronDon88> I need to go to bed
[07:26] <ChronDon88> Im in way over my head right now
[07:26] <ChronDon88> Trying to root a OS ive never even played with
[07:26] <ChronDon88> I have like 50 tabs open :(
[07:27] <ChronDon88> I did find the .image file for ubuntu tho that only took a few hours
[07:27] <mutante> to get root, use "su"
[07:27] <ChronDon88> I dont have the password its locked
[07:27] <ChronDon88> and no I didnt steal it
[07:27] <mutante> boot into single user mode, mount disk, edit /etc/shadow to set new pass, reboot
[07:28] <ChronDon88> For some reason I cant boot into recovery or single user
[07:28] <ChronDon88> I even tryed f9 and shift
[07:28] <ChronDon88> ese f9 shift
[07:28] <ChronDon88> it just boots
[07:29] <mutante> ChronDon88: you could use any "Live CD" to boot from as well
[07:29] <mutante> Knoppix or something
[07:29] <ChronDon88> its a micro PC
[07:30] <ChronDon88> this is what im working with
[07:30] <ChronDon88> https://i.imgur.com/QWy8TWW.jpg
[07:30] <mutante> ok, then boot from a USB flash drive i suppose
[07:30] <ChronDon88> it doesnt get any more bare bones than that
[07:30] <ChronDon88> I have to switch back and forth between mouse and keyboard atm lol
[07:31] <mutante> why not a real computer ?:)
[07:31] <ChronDon88> I do have some usb female peaces coming from china hopefully will be here in a month to add on some USBS
[07:31] <mutante> whatever it used to boot Ubuntu when it was installed.. should be able to boot a live image
[07:32] <ChronDon88> I got it for free from doing a idk what it was I guess they monitored the traffic of the network I had it connected to for a month and gave me 50 bux and left the box here
[07:32] <ChronDon88> I opened the box up to find a mini pc and my eyeballs opened wider and wider
[07:32] <ChronDon88> I wanted to use the thing
[07:32] <ChronDon88> I asked them for the password but they are sketch and hung up
[07:33] <ChronDon88> the company is called digital reflections
[07:33] <ChronDon88> you can probably get one too
[07:33] <ChronDon88> the contract says nothing about returning the device and they dont ask you too after you stop
[07:33] <ChronDon88> They just let you keep it
[07:33] <gordonjcp> ChronDon88: does it actually show up a PC-like BIOS when you power it up?
[07:34] <ChronDon88> It runs a bunch of command lines when it boots
[07:34] <ChronDon88> If i press f9 it says ubuntu 14.1 and 4 dots below that and then boots
[07:34] <ChronDon88> I guess its a bearbones version of mk902ii
[07:35] <ChronDon88> which is basicly an android/linux mini PC you can get for like 100 bux
[07:35] <ChronDon88> Im guessing this one is around 80 dollers because its missing half the stuff
[07:36] <ChronDon88> I just wanted it to run kodi and IRC/Discord for the channles I am an admin in on my TV on the wall
[07:36] <ChronDon88> Thought it would be cool but it is turning into a super project
[07:36] <gordonjcp> wonder what it boots from
[07:36] <ChronDon88> I've never used ubuntu or linux so this is all new to me
[07:37] <mutante> ChronDon88: https://www.reddit.com/r/SwagBucks/comments/4l86cj/digital_reflections_android_box/
[07:37] <gordonjcp> ChronDon88: in the bottom left corner of your pic, is that actually a chip ?
[07:37] <gordonjcp> hard to seee if it's a BGA flash chip, or just nothing there
[07:37] <mutante> "To anyone still wanting to re-flash the boxes, first download the new tool here. Unzip the batchtool folder and run the RKBatchTool application. Then, go here and download the most recent firmware image (as of November 2016, it's MK902II_5.1_160722). Load the image in the RKBatchTool and hold down the reset button on your box for a few seconds until the tool finds it (you'll need a small pin to reach the
[07:37] <mutante> button. It's on the left side of the box). Then click "Upgrade" on the tool."
[07:38] <ChronDon88> HOLY S*HT you found it!
[07:38] <gordonjcp> oh cool
[07:38] <ChronDon88> the origional IMAGE!
[07:38] <ChronDon88> with WORKING LINK!
[07:39] <ChronDon88> -_- I've been searching reddit and the interent for like 2=3 hours for that
[07:39] <ChronDon88> All the links I tried were dead
[07:39] <ChronDon88> So weird that that link works
[07:40] <mutante> i searched for "digital reflections hardware root password" hoping that i would just find the default password :p
[07:40] <gordonjcp> jeez
[07:40] <gordonjcp> they're actually fairly decent
[07:40] <gordonjcp> https://www.cloudsto.com/store/linux-mini-pc-s/rkm-mk902ii-le/mk902ii-le-linux-edition-quad-core-a17-ubuntu-linux-mini-pc-16gb-flash-storage-detail.html
[07:41] <ChronDon88> Yea but you can get a stripped down version for free
[07:41] <ChronDon88> the company is super sketchy
[07:42] <ChronDon88> after I looked at the files on these thing (most of them are root protected) I found some stuff about some russian click farms
[07:42] <ChronDon88> awe the file apperently doesnt work on this version
[07:45] <ChronDon88> even tho it says they are not excepting people sign up and get ur free pc!
[07:47] <ChronDon88> I really do want to see what they were trying to do
[07:48] <gordonjcp> ChronDon88: it's weird, looking at your board pic it looks like it's mostly just the sockets and LEDs that aren't populated
[07:48] <pumice> adobe flash player install does not seem to work
[07:48] <gordonjcp> ChronDon88: like I reckon you could fit the missing micro SD card socket
[07:48] <ChronDon88> gordonjcp you are correct
[07:48] <gordonjcp> the passives around it seem to be present
[07:48] <ChronDon88> I ordered some board USB female connecters from china
[07:48] <ChronDon88> going to populate the board myself
[07:49] <ChronDon88> they are on sale for 80 cents a peace :D
[07:49] <gordonjcp> ChronDon88: can't argue with the price
[07:49] <ChronDon88> You mean free?
[07:49] <gordonjcp> ChronDon88: no, 80 cents for the sockets
[07:49] <ChronDon88> I wouldnt trust the company digital reflections
[07:50] <gordonjcp> ChronDon88: I was going to say, you could try just soldering flying leads onto a USB device and sticking it down but for pennies you may as well buy the proper sockets
[07:50] <ChronDon88> I basicly shut down my home network for 2 months to get some free cash
[07:50] <ChronDon88> so I guess it wasnt "free"
[07:50] <ChronDon88> Only problem is its going to take a month or 2 but screw it
[07:51] <ChronDon88> I got the software to reflash it I just need a male 2 male usb cord
[07:51] <ChronDon88> I tryed to make one but yea.....
[07:51] <gordonjcp> male to male USB?
[07:51] <gordonjcp> not sure how that would work
[07:52] <gordonjcp> unless they're doing something evil like using a USB A connector where they should have a B connector
[07:52] <gordonjcp> or some really really crazy-ass implementation of OTG
[07:53] <ChronDon88> No to flash it because I dont have root
[07:53] <ChronDon88> I can only use guest
[07:53] <ChronDon88> which is a no go right now
[07:53] <ChronDon88> having a PC on the network I dont have control over is a no no
[07:54] <gordonjcp> hah
[07:54] <gordonjcp> better hope you don't have any recent Intel kit then
[07:54] <gordonjcp> ChronDon88: right, good luck with it
[07:54] <ChronDon88> I need the male to male to flash it
[07:54] <radix_> hello
[07:54]  * gordonjcp -> off to work
[07:54] <radix_> friends
[07:54] <radix_> peppermint vs linux mint
[07:54] <ChronDon88> I got the chinese software to flash it
[07:54] <radix_> peppermint vs linux mint
[07:55] <ChronDon88> I like mints better
[07:55] <radix_> mint
[07:55] <radix_> your linux os is
[07:55] <cfhowlett> radix_, your choice.  note however: both are offtopic here
[07:56] <radix_> ok
[07:56] <radix_> i search stable linux distro
[07:56] <radix_> help
[07:56] <gordonjcp> stable in what sense?
[07:56] <cfhowlett> radix_, ask ##linux
[07:57] <cfhowlett> radix_, or use an ubuntu LTS release; currently 16.04
[07:57] <radix_> better then mint
[08:51] <tatertots> 1
[08:55] <choki> hi
[09:21] <yevgeni> i just download image for vbox
[09:22] <yevgeni> how do i play it? if anyone can help please
[09:22] <cfhowlett> play it?  huh?
[09:22] <cfhowlett> what OS are you using?
[09:22] <yevgeni> ubuntu 16.4
[09:23] <cfhowlett> then you want to INSTALL.  and you should have .deb file - not an "image"
[09:23] <yevgeni> thanks, i will do that
[09:23] <cfhowlett> double click on the .deb and it should launch the installer
[09:24] <yevgeni> thank you
[09:25] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[09:56] <StormWarrior> hey all
[09:57] <StormWarrior> My battery is giving me issues.. I did a acpi -v and the output is Battery 0: Charging, 0%,  until charged
[09:57] <StormWarrior> Battery 0: design capacity 6910 mAh, last full capacity 0 mAh = 0%
[09:58] <cfhowlett>  StormWarrior is this new behavior?
[09:58] <cfhowlett> dualbooting?  does it charge on windows?
[09:58] <StormWarrior> It didnt charge on windows
[09:58] <cfhowlett> then not a software issue.
[09:58] <StormWarrior> The battery is stuck at 0%
[09:58] <StormWarrior> hmm
[09:58] <StormWarrior> just wanted to confirm
[09:58] <StormWarrior> :/
[09:58] <cfhowlett> your charger has likely failed
[09:59] <cfhowlett> they do that
[09:59] <StormWarrior> well my laptop is running fine on AC power
[09:59] <cfhowlett> then the battery is suspect
[09:59] <StormWarrior> thought so
[09:59] <StormWarrior> you wanna know the weird part?
[09:59] <cfhowlett> they also fail.  hopefully easily replaced and not hardwired in.
[10:00] <StormWarrior> in the gui(settings > power), it shows that battery is taking voltage
[10:00] <cfhowlett> taking voltage != keeping a charge.
[10:00] <StormWarrior> like right nom the battery power is 3.2 Wh.. but percentage is 0
[10:00] <enaut> StormWarrior: does the battery heat up while connected?
[10:01] <StormWarrior> nope
[10:01] <StormWarrior> the  battery is cool
[10:01] <cfhowlett> should be warm if it's actively charging
[10:01] <enaut> thats weird... usually my batteries that where broken were quite hot...
[10:01] <StormWarrior> ik
[10:02] <StormWarrior> broken batteries should be hot(unless the charging power is broken)
[10:02] <StormWarrior> but charging port is fine since battery is taking a voltage of 12.5V
[10:02] <cfhowlett> can you replace the battery?
[10:02] <StormWarrior> I can
[10:02] <StormWarrior> But I wanna know wtf is wrong first
[10:03] <cfhowlett> how new/old is this machine.
[10:03] <enaut> StormWarrior: but if you remove ac the laptop shuts down/turns of immediately?
[10:03] <StormWarrior> the machine is about 5 years old.. so is the battery
[10:03] <StormWarrior> enaut: indeed!!!
[10:03] <cfhowlett> StormWarrior, if you got 5 years of life out of a laptop, you are doing good!  retire that poor battery and replace it!
[10:04] <StormWarrior> Look.. full disclosure.. 5 years ago, I was an idiot.. didnt know squat about tech and batteries and how I should maintain a battery
[10:04] <StormWarrior> cfhowlett: its thinkpad :/
[10:04] <enaut> you could take a voltmeter and measure the pins... never did anything like that before though
[10:04] <StormWarrior> enaut: I have done exactly that with my cellphone
[10:04] <StormWarrior> enaut: but as I said, the battery is taking volgae of 12.5V
[10:04] <StormWarrior> voltage*
[10:04] <Younder> What does this have to do with Ubuntu?
[10:04] <StormWarrior> Younder: I am using ubuntu
[10:05] <cfhowlett> I believe a dead battery will "take" the voltage, it just won't store the voltage.
[10:05] <StormWarrior> Younder: and I want to troubleshoot this on ubuntu
[10:05] <StormWarrior> cfhowlett: could be the case
[10:05] <Younder> But this is a hardware issue we can't help you with..
[10:05] <StormWarrior> I think I may have messed up the drivers.. in windows..
[10:06] <StormWarrior> Younder: I just want to confirm that this is a hardware issue..
[10:06] <cfhowlett> windows drivers would have no effect on the ubuntu side
[10:06] <Younder> Ok, it is.
[10:06] <enaut> StormWarrior: if the battery has output but your laptop shows nothing then I rather suspect the connection Battery/Laptop to be broken...
[10:06] <TJ-> StormWarrior: you still uses Windows on that PC? There were a lot of known issues with Lenovo Thinkpad battery charging around 2013 ... 5 years ago :)
[10:06] <StormWarrior> TJ-: yes I did use windows and I used it like an idiot
[10:07] <StormWarrior> enaut: but how is the system correctly(I hope so) gauging the energy and voltage as well as rate of charge of the battery?
[10:07] <TJ-> StormWarrior: if you still have Windows, apparently one possible solution is to go into Energy Management, Battery, and choose "Maximum Battery Life" and *sometimes* that causes the battery to charge once more
[10:08] <StormWarrior> TJ-: I will try that.. thanks
[10:08] <cfhowlett> StormWarrior, I presume instant off if you uplug the AC?
[10:08] <StormWarrior> cfhowlett: indeed!
[10:08] <StormWarrior> wait guys.. I will post a jpeg link
[10:08] <StormWarrior> bear with me
[10:08] <TJ-> StormWarrior: which model Thinkpad is it?
[10:09] <TJ-> StormWarrior: another possibility: "I have a Thinkpad P50 with Window 10 Pro.  I had this problem and after much frustration found that if the computer gets put in Airplane mode, it changes the power settings to  one that will not charge the laptop."
[10:09] <Younder> StormWarrior, If you download like a fool, you have a lot of resident programs which will tap your memory capacity, your battery power and your computers speed. Get vrid of the unnecessary junk. And altso use a program to clean up the registry.
[10:10] <StormWarrior> Younder: I download-ed like a fool
[10:11] <TJ-> StormWarrior: and yet another: "...I decided to take the battery out again.  That's when I noticed there are two tabs to lock it in place.  The first one autolocks.  The second one was set to unlocked.  Once that was set to locked position, the battery started charging!"
[10:11] <StormWarrior> TJ-: ok.. I have win10 and I will see into it
[10:11] <StormWarrior> https://imgur.com/a/HaCPQ
[10:11] <StormWarrior> This is what the GUI shows about the battery
[10:11] <StormWarrior> TJ-: gosh..I will check that now
[10:12] <TJ-> StormWarrior: this Lenovo thread is full of apparent fixes/workarounds! https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/forums/v3_1/forumtopicpage/board-id/ll03_en/thread-id/38127/page/6
[10:12] <StormWarrior> TJ-: will look into it
[10:14] <enaut> StormWarrior: Capacity being 100% looks suspicious after 5 years... I'd guess something less perfect.
[10:14] <StormWarrior> enaut: so it is the battery.. eh
[10:16] <StormWarrior> ok.. imma boot into Windows and work the fixes.. bbl
[10:16] <Younder> StormWarrior, Just remember, fools can learn, but idiots can't- We have all been fools, but don't become an idiot.
[10:16] <StormWarrior> thanka a ton guys
[10:17] <StormWarrior> Younder: wilco..
[10:18] <Sunny> ```Reading package lists... Done W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://repo.mongodb.org/apt/ubuntu xenial/mongodb-org/3.2 Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1507497109 W: Failed to fetch http://repo.mongodb.org/apt/ubuntu/dists/xenial/mongodb-org/3.2/Release.gpg  The following signatures were invalid: KEY
[10:18] <Sunny> need help over sudo apt-get update command
[10:19] <Sunny> After this command sudo apt-get update
[10:19] <Sunny> i am facing this issues
[10:19] <alkisg> Sunny: repositories outside of ubuntu are not supported here
[10:20] <alkisg> So, you would need to contact mongodb.org about it
[10:20] <Sunny> So
[10:20] <alkisg> Our advice here would be just "remove the bad repositories"...
[10:20] <Sunny> Otherwise no help
[10:20] <Sunny> ok
[10:20] <Sunny> @alkisg how can i remove the bad repo
[10:21] <alkisg> Run software-properties-gtk and uncheck the ones that are causing issues
[10:24] <TJ-> Sunny: "KEYEXPIRED" suggests mongodb should have a newer package signing GPG key and you need to find and install it
[10:57] <FrostEyes_P1> Hi folks. looking at https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/
[10:58] <FrostEyes_P1> anyone knowing when fixes hits 16.04
[10:59] <blackflow> FrostEyes_P1: you sure you want the fix? it drops overall performace up to 30%
[10:59] <blackflow> meanwhile, the problem hasn't been made public yet.
[11:00] <brainwash> FrostEyes_P1: I suggest asking in #ubuntu-kernel
[11:01] <Younder> blackflow, Well I have a 8 core Zenon running 4 GHz. I could probably survive the performance drop..
[11:02] <FrostEyes_P1> brainwash: thanks
[11:02] <geirha> I'd assume it's being backported to 16.04's kernel version as the patches comes in, but I don't really know. Haven't checked.
[11:03] <FrostEyes_P1> blackflow: will patch where I have to. Just need a timeline if possible..
[11:03] <brainwash> it obviously will
[11:04] <blackflow> FrostEyes_P1: the vuln itself hasn't been made public yet, no CVEs even, so there's no way to know.
[11:04] <blackflow> yes there are some "fixes" landing upstream and a great deal of talk about it on the net, but we're talking official releases and announcements here.
[11:05] <brainwash> I'd think that ubuntu kernel devs have all the info
[11:06] <blackflow> and an embargo which holds their mouths shut.
[11:13] <TJ-> FrostEyes_P1: builds for Bionic's 4.14.10 (stable) are done so that should and very soon (and 4.14.11 probably won't be far behind). Once those are known-good, backports will follow
[11:13] <TJ-> s/and very soon/land very soon/
[11:14] <FrostEyes_P1> Thanks :)
[11:24] <x_angel> hiall
[11:47] <IgOucard9> hi all, does anyone know what determines the name of the desktop entries in the launcher? for example in this https://i.imgur.com/JFm4Gid.png, chromium's name is shown as telegram web - chromium instead of chromium. i noticed this change after i used the python bindings for selenium which uses chromedriver. Also i'am not able to open links from other ubuntu applications in chrome, whenever i click on "open link in browser", a flurry of tabs open
[11:47] <IgOucard9> each with an option name (as in this image: https://i.imgur.com/JFm4Gid.png), i have googled for this but found no relevant results :(
[11:48] <IgOucard9> sorry the second link is this: https://i.imgur.com/uql8s1r.png
[11:53] <usura> hi
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:29] <blip99> hi, does one need extra software to connect to an IPSec strongSwan VPN?
[12:29] <KireMer> Hello guys, I am having problem with my sound. I am googling for like 2 hours and I can't seem to find the solution, tried all sorts of stuff. I am new in Ubuntu and it would be lovely if you help me. Here's the problem, I can hear with my notebook bultin speakers, but I can't hear when I plugin headphones. They are recognized it just doesn't output anything. Also I have microphone on this headphones, and the microphone is not
[12:29] <KireMer> recognized. My laptop model is Asus s56kc, I am running dual boot. Thank you very much
[12:32] <BluesKaj> blip99, type IPSec in your package manager
[12:35] <blip99> BluesKaj, yes I saw several clients but different results on the web point to buggy or problematic packages like openswan.  16.04 repos have the older NetworkManager Applet 1.3 (not 1.4).  do you think that's fine?
[12:35] <blip99> https://wiki.strongswan.org/projects/strongswan/wiki/NetworkManager
[12:36] <BluesKaj> blip99, is IPSec your only VPN protocol option ?
[12:37] <blip99> BluesKaj, yes that's what the server i connect to uses
[12:41] <BluesKaj> blip99, it's been a while since I used IPSec, so i can't answer your question about problematic packages. Most VPN services have moved on to openvpn which much simpler and easier to use.
[12:42] <crogers> Hi. I'm having an issue revoking my gpg public key on keyserver.ubuntu.com
[12:42] <blip99> BluesKaj, ah i see. the reason our server uses ipsec is that 'openvpn is not very secure and buggy'.  i guess that's outdated info?
[12:43] <crogers> get an error message: Add failed: This is a stand-alone revocation certificate. A revocation certificates should be imported to the respective public key before being published to a keyserver
[12:44] <BluesKaj> blip99, uhm, sounds like the server just doesn't want to change protocols ..openvpn is very secure and bugfree in my experience
[12:44] <crogers> Got no idea why it's not taking it. Isn't the point of a "stand-alone" *anything* supposed to be that it doesn't need more information to process?
[12:48] <km2411> hi
[12:49] <eraserpencil> does anyone have an autokey phrase like aptin that expands into sudo aptitude install?
[12:52] <crogers> eraserpencil: have you tried the "alias" command?
[12:53] <samuel> wagwan piff ting
[12:57] <eraserpencil> crogers: yea it dosent really work the way i want to, or im doing it wrong. "alias" excutes the command on its own. cant really customize an alias for packages
[12:57] <EriC^^> eraserpencil: what alias are you trying to use?
[12:59] <crogers> alias install='sudo apt install'
[13:00] <crogers> seems to work for me.
[13:00] <crogers> or am I not understanding what you're trying to do?
[13:01] <eraserpencil> EriC^^: for example i want a shortcut to "dmesg --get-selections | grep" , lets say 'dgr'. I can just do "dgr gtk" or "dgr qt" rather than "dmesg --get-selections | grep gtk" or "dmesg --get-selections | grep qt"
[13:02] <akik> eraserpencil: you can reference a command line argument in alias with $1
[13:05] <eraserpencil> akik: Thanks! What if I wanted to do an alias for "sudo apt install", but there will be times I'd install several packages at once
[13:06] <akik> eraserpencil: $* expands to all arguments
[13:07] <eraserpencil> damn
[13:07] <eraserpencil> is there a man page for alias rules? or is this basic scripting?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> I just use a .bash_aliases file and list them there
[13:08] <blip99> BluesKaj, thanks for the help
[13:08] <akik> eraserpencil: man bash lists them but it's a bit hard to read
[13:08] <akik> eraserpencil: better to read some guide on the net
[13:08] <BluesKaj> blip99, so what have you decided ?
[13:09] <BluesKaj> eraserpencil, example: alias uu='sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade'
[13:11] <blip99> BluesKaj, I'm gonna try to get the swan client working, it's supposed to modify ubuntu's nework manager. but i think i got the wrong version
[13:12] <crogers> alias badly needs a man page.
[13:12] <BluesKaj> blip99, i see, ok ipsec is workable , just bit more complicated
[13:13] <eraserpencil> akik:so I'm trying out  " alias dms='dmsg --get-selections | grep '  ", but
[13:13] <eraserpencil> dms has no tab-completion and "dms qt" returns error
[13:13] <eraserpencil> sorry theres the $1 in there
[13:14] <BluesKaj> eraserpencil, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1414/how-to-create-a-permanent-alias
[13:15] <akik> eraserpencil: dmsg is no command, maybe you meant dmesg
[13:15] <alkisg> dpkg probably
[13:16] <akik> ah of course
[13:16] <eraserpencil> alkisg: yea, im messing up commands now
[13:22] <EriC^^> eraserpencil: do you mean "dpkg --get-selections" ?
[13:24] <eraserpencil> EriC^^: yup
[13:24] <eraserpencil> last question. alias aptin='sudo aptitude install $*' works, but not with tab-completion. anyway to get it with tab completion?
[13:27] <EriC^^> eraserpencil: check out https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4219/how-do-i-get-bash-completion-for-command-aliases
[13:30] <geirha> eraserpencil: remove the $* from the end of that alias. alises do not have arguments
[13:31] <eraserpencil> geirha: It does work
[13:31] <geirha> eraserpencil: because your interactive session happens to not have any arguments set, so $* expands to nothing
[13:32] <Ian> hi
[13:32] <EriC^^> hi
[13:37] <akik> geirha: he uses the $* so that he can use the alias with different arguments
[13:37] <akik> geirha: or did you mean the completion would work if he removes the $* ?
[13:39] <loginoob> I need urgent help... The error i get when i boot is "the system is running on low graphics mode"
[13:39] <geirha> akik: I mean the $* serves no purpose other than potentially causing unexpected behavior later on.  aptin foo   would be alias-expanded to   sudo aptitude install $* foo
[13:40] <loginoob> I have tried stackoverflow solution but the problem is when i open tty1 and login,  it says sudo command not found, vi command not found
[13:40] <loginoob> Mostly all the command not found. I can do ls though
[13:40] <akik> geirha: if he runs "aptin foo" the $* would be foo
[13:40] <geirha> akik: nope
[13:41] <brainwash> akik: it's an alias and not a function
[13:41] <akik> geirha: it works that way in bash
[13:41] <loginoob> Please anyone
[13:41] <geirha> akik: Try with this:   set -- "arg 1" "arg 2"; alias mytest='echo $*'   and run   mytest hello
[13:41] <ka11> anyone here
[13:42] <loginoob> I want to edit my bashrc file in tty but vi command not found error it shows
[13:42] <loginoob> Is there any other way to edit
[13:42] <brainwash> try with "nano"
[13:43] <ka11> example:$nano filename,
[13:43] <geirha> (without the dollar)
[13:43] <ka11> yep
[13:44] <loginoob> brainwash ok ty, could you please tell me how to save the file after edit
[13:44] <loginoob> In nano
[13:44] <ka11> ctrl+O
[13:46] <eraserpencil> geirha: akik's solution does work. havent test it out with tab completion though. and with yours, I would hit a limit with arguments yes?
[13:46] <geirha> eraserpencil: that limit is there regardless
[13:46] <loginoob> And reboot, poweroff, shutdown not working. Do i have to do hard poweroff?
[13:48] <brainwash> loginoob: can you run the commands if you use the full path?
[13:48] <brainwash> it may be that your PATH is not set, or there's something wrong with
[13:48] <brainwash> it
[13:48] <loginoob> brainwash I don't know full path. I m new
[13:49] <geirha> eraserpencil: and again, it happens to work because your interactive shell has no arguments set at the moment. You'll find that it still works after you remove $*, so I recommend you remove it from that alias.
[13:50] <loginoob> I edited my bashrc file and in the end wrote export path= /usr/lib/java. So i ma guessing that must be the problem
[13:51] <loginoob> brainwash I have deleted it now. And i need to reboot
[13:51] <BluesKaj>  bash_aliases in the hidden files section is the simplest setup IMO
[13:53] <brainwash> loginoob: /usr/bin/systemctl reboot
[13:54] <brainwash> or logout and login again
[13:54] <loginoob> It says permission denied brad[]
[13:54] <geirha> loginoob: It's better to adjust PATH in .profile rather than .bashrc, but you certainly do not want to overwrite the existing PATH variable. Instead you want to prepend or append
[13:54] <loginoob> brainwash
[13:54] <loginoob> Sory
[13:55] <brainwash> then do "exit" and login again
[13:55] <brainwash> with your bashrc fixed everything should work fine again
[14:01] <loginoob> It says /usr/share/bash-completion/bssh_completion: permission denied
[14:01] <loginoob> brainwash
[14:03] <geirha> sounds like you might have removed a '.' by accident
[14:05] <loginoob> geirha i only edited what i added in bashrc. Nothing more
[14:05] <geirha> hard to determine without seeing the exact error message
[14:06] <geirha> a pastebin of the full .bashrc would also help
[14:07] <loginoob> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1968492
[14:08] <loginoob> geirha this is my error exactly. But solutions are not helping me
[14:08] <geirha> that forum post does not seem related ...
[14:09] <geirha> https://meta.stackoverflow.com/a/359147/1524545
[14:10] <Guest38018> Hello
[14:10] <Guest38018> It is my first time here, can someone send me a sign of life?
[14:11] <mbi> .
[14:11] <crogers> o/
[14:11] <loginoob> geirha is there a way to copy my bashrc file and put it in pastebin if i cannot access anything other than tty
[14:11] <geirha> we see you, andre, now known as Guest38018
[14:11] <Guest38018> Thanks very much, geirha.
[14:12] <crogers> Your client should tell you how many are connected to the chatroom. That's not always a sign of life, but is a good indicator of the attention that's paid to the channel.
[14:12] <Guest38018> I am Andre, and I am using ubuntu only for few months... But it works very well in my job as a researcher in economics and statistics
[14:13] <geirha> loginoob: nc termbin.com 9999 < ~/.bashrc
[14:13] <wasutton3> what user does a udev rule execute a script as?
[14:13] <crogers> Guest38018: Glad to hear you like it. Did you have a question?
[14:13] <Guest38018> but I have difficulties to install a printer in home...
[14:14] <Guest38018> crogers: not now, because I am travelling in Japan, but when I will be back to home in Brazil I will need some help in this topic.
[14:15] <crogers> Guest38018: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers
[14:15] <crogers> that page contains a list of printers which are compatible with ubuntu.
[14:15] <crogers> and other helpful advice.
[14:16] <Guest38018> crogers: Thank you for advice. I will search it and read it in details...
[14:17] <crogers> Guest38018: No problem. Have fun in Japan!
[14:17] <brainwash> wasutton3: root
[14:17] <loginoob> geirha nc:getaddrinfo:temporary failure in name resolution
[14:17] <loginoob> I am sorry I'm troubling you.
[14:18] <wasutton3> brainwash, so the udev rule should have no trouble executing a sh script in my home directory?
[14:19] <geirha> loginoob: no internet connection makes it a bit difficult, yes
[14:19] <loginoob> I have connection
[14:20] <loginoob> My LAN cable is plugged in
[14:20] <brainwash> wasutton3: I guess no.. unless your HOME is encrypted or not available when the udev rule is triggered
[14:21] <brainwash> wasutton3: maybe copy it over to /usr/local/bin
[14:34] <fadavi> hey there. apt wants to remove linux-image-extra-4.13.0-12-generic package, but its freezed on this command:
[14:34] <fadavi> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 4.13.0-12-generic /boot/vmlinuz-4.13.0-12-generic
[14:34] <fadavi> any solution?
[14:34] <Night__> hey
[14:35] <diamvw> fadavi: dmesg errors?
[14:36] <|Night|> hey i keep getting 2 packages can be updated. even after running apt-get update / upgrade
[14:36] <diamvw> |Night|: what about apt dist-upgrade?
[14:37] <|Night|> diamvw: runing newest dist
[14:37] <BluesKaj> |Night|, sudo apt full-upgrade
[14:37] <|Night|> diamvw:  i found out i had to run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop which was beeing held back
[14:39] <fadavi> diamvw: too many errors :| https://paste.ubuntu.com/26313276/
[14:42] <diamvw> fadavi: It is the recurrent issue with i915 drivers
[14:42] <diamvw> It is not ubuntu specific
[14:42] <diamvw> I also use opensuse
[14:42] <diamvw> is your machine responsive?
[14:43] <fadavi> diamvw: yes it is. is there any solution/workaround for this issue?
[14:43] <ash_work> what do programs like `top` use to rewrite the console when refreshing stats?
[14:44] <fadavi> ash_work: ncurses library
[14:44] <diamvw> fadavi: not to my knowledge. Many workarounds by nothing robust.
[14:44] <fadavi> diamvw: thank you so much.
[14:46] <ash_work> fadavi: thanks, I'll look into that
[14:46] <flux242> how can i find out why particular package gets updated?
[14:46] <fadavi> flux242: read the changelog
[14:46] <flux242> which one
[14:47] <diamvw> flux242: apt-cache show <package> and on go to the upstream link
[14:48] <flux242> ok, how can find out why 100 packages are updated?
[14:49] <diamvw> is there any metapackage?
[14:50] <notafish> reallynotafish
[14:51] <flux242> diamvw: not necessarily
[14:51] <alkisg> reallynotafish: meh, it would be more interesting if it were reallyafish
[14:51] <reallynotafish> the nickname was registered and I tried to change it, failing the first time alkisg :)
[14:52] <geirha> flux242: could be a different reason for each of those 100 packages. Best you can do is   apt changelog pkgname   for each package
[14:53] <diamvw> flux242: if there is a metapackage then you could save a lot of time
[14:54] <diamvw> even more than one metapackage
[14:54] <fadavi> diamvw: is there anyway to purge/remove linux-extra-4.13.0-12-generic witout running "dkms ..."? for now, i cant install any package...
[15:01] <Umeaboy> Hi! The first window that appears when you run dist-upgrade...... Isn't it possible to translate that?
[15:03] <Umeaboy> I can't find any of the strings when I look at update-manager. Am I looking at the wrong place?
[15:03] <diamvw> fadavi: sudo dpkg -l | grep ^rc | awk '{print $2}' | xargs sudo apt purge -y
[15:04] <flux242> hm, so 'changelog' output should be stipped to only show changes until installed version and it should be iterated over updatable packages. If I write a script would I develop a bicycle or something similar exists already?
[15:07] <eraserpencil> EriC^^: Hey! I was wondering if you understood the link you shared. I couldnt get the tab-completion for possible packages to install
[15:14] <eraserpencil> geirha: whats the code you suggested in place of alias? I have issues with root permissions
[15:16] <oldschool_fzer08> Hi
[15:17] <oldschool_fzer08> Hi everyone
[15:22] <blackbird1> Hi, I have a blurry screen. it' a samsung 1152x864 53.3 KHz 60 Hz NP. I set up the resolution (1152x864) but I don't know how to set up the other information.
[15:25] <alkisg> blackbird1: what's the output of this command? xrandr
[15:25] <alkisg> Put it to pastebin
[15:35] <Umeaboy> https://hastebin.com/ is also OK to paste to. :)
[15:38] <blackbird1> alkisg: https://hastebin.com/ebowokitig.vbs
[15:48] <AvidWolf43> hi guys
[15:50] <AvidWolf43> how do i remove mysql completely from ubuntu 16.04 server
[15:50] <AvidWolf43> im having issues since installing it via the iso installer
[15:51] <deem> what's an iso installer?
[15:52] <AvidWolf43> deem: im having a brainfart in terminology, the usb installer
[15:52] <AvidWolf43> when you dd the image on usb and boot from it for ubuntu server
[15:53] <dewwii> why do you want to uninstall mysql? you can use apt-get remove or purge
[15:53] <AvidWolf43> i dont know if this makes sense but, i think i have 2 mysql's? I think something got messed up during the installation, since it asked me 3 times to set root pw
[15:53] <AvidWolf43> so im assuming i have 3 instances?
[15:53] <deem> AvidWolf43: ah. you spoke of ubuntu server, i thought you were speaking of mysql in context of the iso installer. what kind of issues do you have with mysql?
[15:55] <AvidWolf43> if i su to root, i can login by mysql -u root
[15:55] <AvidWolf43> no pw
[15:55] <AvidWolf43> if i am in a normal user with sudo the same command doesnt work
[15:55] <dewwii> yeah that's the "new" way
[15:57] <AvidWolf43> dewwii: ?
[15:58] <dewwii> trying to find an article on this, but basically newer versions of mysql uses a diff login mechanism which works with th root user
[15:59] <alkisg> blackbird1: you're connected via VGA (analog) instead of digital, it's a very possible reason for blurry screen
[15:59] <alkisg> blackbird1: use dvi or hdmi instead
[16:00] <dewwii> AvidWolf43: i may be wrong from ubuntu's perspective. i ran into this with debian 9 where it uses a socket for root user to login as mysql root user
[16:01] <AvidWolf43> dewwii: i think you are correct though, the behavior makes sense
[16:01] <AvidWolf43> i guess i need to find an older version
[16:02] <dewwii> you can change it. this is the article i ran into for deb 9. not sure if it applies https://y0b.org/index.php/2017/08/28/debian-9-stretch-and-mysql-mariadb-root-password/
[16:03] <ayaz> Hello All
[16:03] <Guest56065> hi
[16:07] <diamvw> Is there any link with videos from previous ubuntu conferences?
[16:07] <diamvw> Ubucon
[16:07] <diamvw> Or something like that?
[16:11] <edisonbulb> has the ubuntu phone project been discontinued?
[16:11] <tonyt> yes
[16:11] <edisonbulb> :(
[16:12] <edisonbulb> thx
[16:15] <blackbird1> alkisg: I bought an old TFT screen (no dvi) :/
[16:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> hi. i'm using postfix and trying to use pcre. i've installed postfix-pcre. i'm still getting errors in syslog: pcre:/etc/postfix/virtual is unavailable. unsupported dictionary type: pcre
[16:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> 14.04.5
[16:22] <NoImNotNineVolt> and yes, i've restarted postfix since installing postfix-pcre
[16:25] <acovrig> I’m having issues with iptables in ubuntu 17.04 and 17.10. The rules seem to work fine on a pi, but not either of these servers… `sudo ufw status` shows “Status: inactive” so I guess it’s not a ufw thing?
[16:25] <monk12|2> hey all, had a quick question. can i add another group to a group in /etc/group? like we have developers group we maintain... instead of adding same users to apache group, can we do something like so  apache::::developres
[16:25] <monk12|2> apache::::developers,user4,user5,user6
[16:25] <monk12|2> (where developers has user1,user2,user3 already in it)
[16:26] <monk12|2> (Note: in my syntax, i simplified the /etc/group syntax since forgot how many colons to add off top of my head hehe)
[16:28] <nacc> monk12|2: use adduser, and see what it does to the files?
[16:30] <monk12|2> k i heard i can also try vigr and it will check the syntax (possilby saying if it wont allow adding group). a sysadmin in house said %developers may work
[16:30] <r0b-> how long before Ubuntu fixes the Intel flaw?
[16:31] <monk12|2> ill spin up my ubuntu VM and give it a shot in a bit.
[16:32] <nacc> monk12|2: also `man 5 group`
[16:32] <nacc> monk12|2: by the text of the manpage, the 'user_list' is well, a list of users.
[16:32] <nacc> :)
[16:32] <nacc> r0b-: "the Intel flaw"?
[16:32] <tomreyn> NoImNotNineVolt: does postconf -m list the pcre dict type?
[16:32] <r0b-> yes
[16:33] <NoImNotNineVolt> tomreyn: nope.
[16:33] <gordonjcp> nacc: that thing where under very very specific circumstances, the CPU can leak page table information for the kernel into user processes
[16:33] <nacc> gordonjcp: oh i'm just seeing the article now
[16:33] <NoImNotNineVolt> regexp, but no pcre.
[16:33] <gordonjcp> r0b-: it'll be fixed whenever the upstream kernels are fixed
[16:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> and my regex is just /.*/, so i could probably use that instead, but i'm not trying to change someone else's production system on them :P
[16:34] <r0b-> how severe is this bug lol
[16:34] <gordonjcp> r0b-: frankly you couldn't pay me to worry about it
[16:34] <r0b-> lol
[16:34] <r0b-> Ill just pay you :)
[16:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> well, aside from stopping the flood of errors about postfix pcre in this syslog :P
[16:34] <gordonjcp> r0b-: if an attacker can already run arbitrary code on your machine they can exploit it
[16:34] <r0b-> ah
[16:34] <gordonjcp> r0b-: buuuuuuuuut - they can already run arbitrary code on your machine anyway
[16:35] <gordonjcp> so now your attack surface is massive
[16:35] <CapsAdmin> i have issues with grub, the menu wont appear
[16:35] <r0b-> so unless they can hack my PC im fine?
[16:35] <CapsAdmin> but i can boot into linux fine from the grub shell
[16:35] <acovrig> here are my rules - if I SSH -L8080:10.0.6.6:80 172.16.170.46 then it works fine, but just hitting 172.16.170.46:80 doesn’t work, any ideas? https://gist.github.com/acovrig/6d940c7ac7001830b006c066235d6b72
[16:35] <nacc> CapsAdmin: did you make any changes to hte config file?
[16:35] <CapsAdmin> i've tried grub-install and update-grub and even grub-mkconf
[16:35] <gordonjcp> r0b-: if you're running a massive stack of virtual machines with potentially dodgy folk using them, you probably want to worry at least a little
[16:35] <alkisg> monk12|2: no, afaik you can't have groups as members of groups
[16:36] <r0b-> but for me just using my laptop I should not worry much?
[16:36] <tomreyn> NoImNotNineVolt: i guess you could stracte posstfix as it starts up to see whether it accesses /usr/lib/postfix/dict_pcre.so
[16:36] <gordonjcp> r0b-: amazon might care, my mum running 16.04 on her desktop in the house is probably not much of a target
[16:36] <r0b-> ok
[16:36] <tomreyn> *strace
[16:36] <CapsAdmin> nacc, i messed up trying to remove some old boot entries so i just ended up deleting the whole drive and redoing it
[16:36] <NoImNotNineVolt> tomreyn: that sounds painful, as init starts it :P
[16:37] <EriC^^> CapsAdmin: can you get into the grub shell and log here from another pc?
[16:37] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc so that it gets regenerated, and put it to pastebin for us to see
[16:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> also it's a production system, so i'm not trying to introduce too much downtime.
[16:37] <CapsAdmin> i used boot repair from a live cd which seemed to be successful but i'm just greeted with the grub shell
[16:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> though i suppose that may be inevitable at this point.
[16:37] <EriC^^> CapsAdmin: pastebin the output of 'sudo parted -l'
[16:37] <monk12|2> Thanks alkisg / nacc thanks for the info. ill just re-add users to each group..
[16:37] <CapsAdmin> EriC^^, yes, i'm currently on the laptop that has the issue
[16:37] <r0b-> Ok thanks. I wont worry much.
[16:38] <CapsAdmin> the issue is just that i have no grub menu, just a grub shell
[16:38] <CapsAdmin> but booting from the shell works
[16:38] <CapsAdmin> alkisg, what's grub-pc?
[16:38] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: it's the grub package, unless you're using uefi
[16:39] <EriC^^> CapsAdmin: ok, run 'sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999' from a terminal and paste the link it gives you here
[16:39] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[16:39] <dim_> Trying to install 16.04.03. I have an Nvidia 1050ti and Ubuntu fails to display image into try mode. What can I do?
[16:39] <CapsAdmin> sudo parted -l https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3f6f6d67c4bce2e24f3c234897ec62da
[16:40] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: ok you have efi, so it's sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64
[16:40] <CapsAdmin> my grub.cfg https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b6625664e3fcdc8c7c213f1c370c0bfb
[16:40] <dim_> Am on Mint 17.3 btw. Can I Install Ubuntu from within the environment of some other live-usb?
[16:41] <CapsAdmin> alkisg, ok trying to reboot
[16:41] <alkisg> !nomodeset | dim_:
[16:41] <alkisg> Try this dim_ ^
[16:41] <dim_> ok will do
[16:43] <CapsAdmin> same alkisg
[16:43] <CapsAdmin> can i purge grub and install it from within the booted os?
[16:44] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: sure, but that's not expected to help. Try one more time with sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[16:44] <alkisg> If that doesn't help either, we'll see into all the configs/uuids etc
[16:44] <CapsAdmin> okay
[16:47] <CapsAdmin> alkisg, same issue
[16:47] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: ok, first of all, do mention any errors you see in commands
[16:48] <alkisg> Are you booted in uefi mode? ls /sys/firmware/efi/
[16:48] <CapsAdmin> if that exists + some files in that folder then yes
[16:48] <alkisg> Right
[16:49] <alkisg> OK, paste the output of cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg again, along with your /etc/fstab, and the output of sudo lsblk --fs
[16:49] <hicoleri> what can be the possible reasons for HDMI output from laptop to TV not working on intel graphics? The hdmi cable and the TV I have are brand new and I have never used the HDMI port on the laptop before or the TV. `xrandr -q` shows that HDMI1 is disconnected. The laptop has intel graphics.
[16:49] <hicoleri> *remove last sentence
[16:49] <CapsAdmin> the way i boot from grub is "set root=(hd0,3); linuxefi /boot/*vmzlinux* root=/dev/sda3; initrdefi /boot/*initrdlinux*; boot"
[16:49] <alkisg> ...capsadmin, and the output of: dpkg -l '*grub*'
[16:50] <EriC^^> CapsAdmin: did you try after 'grub-install' i got disconnected
[16:50] <nacc> CapsAdmin: this is Ubuntu? /boot/*vmzlinux* and /boot/*initrdlinux* does not refer to standard Ubuntu filenames
[16:51] <Jakethepython> this maynot be the approriate room but i have webmin installed on my ubuntu server and i am not able to connect to it
[16:51] <Jakethepython> the service is running
[16:52] <nacc> Jakethepython: probably need to ask the webmin folks, it's not an ubuntu package, afaik
[16:52] <tomreyn> NoImNotNineVolt: you could also run 'lsof' on the path but that's not as reliable, since it may not keep the module file opened (just open it during start), not sure how it works
[16:52] <Jakethepython> ok thought so thank you
[16:52] <nacc> !alis | Jakethepython: they may have a channel
[16:53] <EriC^^> hicoleri: does 'dmesg' mention anything at all?
[16:53] <hicoleri> let me see
[16:53] <NoImNotNineVolt> tomreyn: nothing's using pcre according to lsof.
[16:53] <CapsAdmin> grub.cfg: https://gist.github.com/48b5924316b6260f346fdb3f39fd611d
[16:53] <CapsAdmin> fstab: https://gist.github.com/3346d920070b79a3858f97833bc2d910
[16:54] <CapsAdmin> lsblk: https://gist.github.com/CapsAdmin/9676072147504cb78c760aac1cfc61e0
[16:54] <NoImNotNineVolt> so yea, probably closes after loading.
[16:54] <CarlFK> I put ubuntu-17.04-desktop-amd64.iso on a usb tumb drive.  I can boot from it.  is there an option to check it for defects?
[16:55] <CapsAdmin> dpgk https://gist.github.com/d444528f04985a34fa6e4481ab207904
[16:55] <CapsAdmin> alkisg, ^
[16:55] <CapsAdmin> EriC^^, yes i tried that
[16:55] <CapsAdmin> nacc, it's kde neon based on ubuntu
[16:56] <CapsAdmin> the image starts with vmz something iirc
[16:56] <CapsAdmin> i just tab to autocomplete
[16:56] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: while I look over these, try: set root=what you do already, and this: configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[16:56] <hicoleri> EriC^^: something along the lines of bad edid: https://hastebin.com/sugojawaxe.css
[16:57] <EriC^^> CarlFK: you could do 'sudo dd if=/dev/sdX bs=$(stat -c %s /path/to/iso) count=1 | md5sum' and see if it matches md5sum /path/to/iso
[16:57] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: check if that configfile command shows the menu
[16:57] <CapsAdmin> alkisg, alright
[16:57] <EriC^^> CarlFK: replace sdX with the usb name
[16:57] <hicoleri> is the TV bad?
[16:57] <theseb> possible to convert live usb stick to one with custom packages added to it?
[16:57] <theseb> i tried before and failed....
[16:58] <EriC^^> hicoleri: no i think a bad edid usually means it's just not out of the box working and you have to give it yourself, ive never had experience with it before
[16:58] <hicoleri> okay
[16:59] <Borw3> Ubuntu... :(
[16:59] <EriC^^> hicoleri: this might help https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/488559-Solved-*ERROR*-EDID-checksum-is-invalid-remainder-is-N
[16:59] <CapsAdmin> alkisg, it did!
[16:59] <CapsAdmin> and i booted from it
[16:59] <hicoleri> okay, thanks
[17:00] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: ok, that means your configuration is fine but the grub installation isn't
[17:00] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: let me find the exact command for it...
[17:00] <EriC^^> hicoleri: i think what you have to do is tell it to ignore the edid and add a modeline yourself
[17:00] <hicoleri> i'll try later. don't have time now
[17:01] <Borw3> Ubuntu ... :(
[17:01] <EriC^^> hicoleri: ok, check here when you do there's a solution https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1486066&page=2
[17:02] <hicoleri> thanks again
[17:03] <EriC^^> CapsAdmin: type 'sudo ls -l /boot/efi/efi' and get the name of the dir, then type 'sudo cat /boot/efi/efi/<name of dir>/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999' and paste the link here
[17:03] <EriC^^> hicoleri: no problem
[17:04] <CapsAdmin> http://termbin.com/kiuqe
[17:04] <CapsAdmin> EriC^^,
[17:05] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: when you ran dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64, did it display dialogs prompting you about the kernel cmdline, the nvram variables etc?
[17:05] <CapsAdmin> yeah
[17:05] <CapsAdmin> maybe i should have told
[17:06] <CapsAdmin> i just went with defaults alkisg
[17:07] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: eh, anyway, to remove/reinstall grub: apt purge grub-efi-amd64 grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-efi-amd64-signed shim-signed; apt install grub-efi-amd64 grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-efi-amd64-signed shim-signed
[17:07] <alkisg> Make sure it doesn't remove any other packages though before pressing yes
[17:07] <EriC^^> CapsAdmin: can you type 'sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999'
[17:08] <EriC^^> i suspect it's booting another grub.efi that doesn't have a good grub.cfg pointing to the right config file
[17:08] <alkisg> I think the efi variables etc are all set up correctly, and the problem is that grub is searching in the wrong partition for the menu
[17:08] <EriC^^> alkisg: yeah, the file that was termbin'ed above is what grub uses to find the config, it's set up properly according to his lsblk output, so it might be that it's booting a different grub.efi
[17:08] <CapsAdmin> alkisg, after doing that the only thing that looks like an error is "No DKMS packages installed: not changing Secure Boot validation state."
[17:09] <CapsAdmin> but no menus this time
[17:09] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: ok, try a reboot and come back for more info if that didn'twork
[17:12] <CapsAdmin> alkisg, same
[17:12] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: ok, let's test EriC^^'s theory: ( ls -lR /boot/efi; sudo efibootmgr -v ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:13] <CapsAdmin> http://termbin.com/2kzv alkisg EriC^^
[17:13] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: is "neon" ubuntu?
[17:13] <CapsAdmin> based on ubuntu
[17:13] <CapsAdmin> https://neon.kde.org/
[17:14] <CapsAdmin> maybe i shouldn't be asking here.. lol
[17:14] <alkisg> cat /etc/os-release
[17:14] <idesuvix> Hello to everybody, beginner ubuntu user here :)
[17:14] <theseb> possible to convert live usb stick to one with custom packages added
[17:14] <theseb>          to it?
[17:14] <alkisg> If it's not an official ubuntu flavour, yeah
[17:14] <CapsAdmin> alkisg, http://termbin.com/75ml
[17:14] <CarlFK> EriC^^: I think there is an option to md5sum --check all the files on it.. there was on the alt installer years ago... which will also verify the .iso file didn't get messed up
[17:14] <idesuvix> I think I have messed up my ubuntu install, and I would kindly ask for some helpl trying to resolve it
[17:15] <EriC^^> CarlFK: yup, if you boot in legacy mode i think you get that option
[17:16] <idesuvix> I have tried changing my sound card drivers because it was not working properly, and now Ubuntu won't recognize my sound card at all... Using 16.04 LTS
[17:16] <CarlFK> EriC^^: is legacy like "not uefi" or ... what?
[17:16] <EriC^^> CarlFK: yeah exactly
[17:16] <EriC^^> the bios/msdos mode
[17:16] <CapsAdmin> theseb, i used this to make a persistent live cd of some ubuntu flavor https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb
[17:16] <CapsAdmin> you can boot into that and install the package you want
[17:17] <CapsAdmin> then you can choose to boot into it in read mode later if you wish
[17:17] <letterman>  /msg nickserv identify lateshow
[17:17] <EriC^^> CapsAdmin: when you get the grub shell, if you type "echo $prefix" what does it give you?
[17:17] <CapsAdmin> ok checking
[17:18] <CarlFK> EriC^^: I don't think this laptop has uefi.
[17:18] <CarlFK> ah found it.  hold shift while I boots.
[17:18] <CarlFK> "check disk for defects"
[17:19] <EriC^^> try to see the variables $prefix and $root
[17:20] <CapsAdmin> EriC^^, it says (hd0,gpt1)/EFI/ubuntu
[17:20] <CapsAdmin> it should say neon? lol
[17:21] <letterman> is there anyway for me to recover the hash of my last used password?
[17:21] <letterman> I tried /etc/shadow- but it wasn't there
[17:21] <letterman> well, it was the same as my current
[17:22] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: it's possible that the neon "installer" manually patches things, and installing/reinstalling grub later on restores the ubuntu defaults and breaks them
[17:22] <CapsAdmin> hmm
[17:22] <alkisg> CapsAdmin: it's the main reason that only official ubuntu flavors are supported; that we don't know what other flavors do :)
[17:22] <nacc> letterman: why do you need it?
[17:22] <CapsAdmin> yeah i understand alkisg
[17:22] <nacc> CapsAdmin: that's why i asked a while ago :)
[17:22] <letterman> because it's the same password that I used somewhere else, and I forgot that password
[17:22] <EriC^> CapsAdmin: any luck with $prefix?
[17:22] <CapsAdmin> EriC^^, it says (hd0,gpt1)/EFI/ubuntu
[17:23] <letterman> my wife threw away the paper I had it backed up on
[17:23] <EriC^> CapsAdmin: aha, that's the problem
[17:23] <EriC^> CapsAdmin: it should say (hd0,gp3)/boot/grub
[17:24] <EriC^> CapsAdmin: i wonder where it's getting efi/ubuntu from
[17:25] <CapsAdmin> as others said i'm on kde neon and not ubuntu
[17:25] <CapsAdmin> it's ubuntu based but i guess there are differences
[17:25] <letterman> nacc: do you know how I can recover it?
[17:25] <nacc> letterman: sorry, i don't
[17:25] <EriC^> CapsAdmin: without boot-repair did you get a grub shell too?
[17:26] <CapsAdmin> EriC^, i forgot
[17:26] <EriC^> CapsAdmin: is it the only disk in your pc?
[17:26] <CapsAdmin> EriC^, yes
[17:26] <BluesKaj> CapsAdmin, join #kde-neon
[17:27] <E3X0J8S2> hi guys, is anyone here on a macbook of any kind?
[17:28] <EriC^> CapsAdmin: try 'sudo mkdir /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu && sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/neon/grub.cfg /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu' who knows
[17:28] <CapsAdmin> alright, if that doesn't work i'll try #kde-neon
[17:28] <CapsAdmin> how should i ask though?
[17:28] <CapsAdmin> brb
[17:29] <EriC^> CapsAdmin: this is far fetched but also try
[17:29] <EriC^> sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/neon/grub.cfg /boot/efi/efi/boot
[17:29] <CapsAdmin> EriC^, i think that worked
[17:30] <letterman> can anyone help me recover my previous password hash for $20?
[17:30] <CapsAdmin> there was no menu (it's hidden by default?) but it ust booted straight into the os
[17:30] <EriC^> aha
[17:30] <E3X0J8S2> letterman: what do you mean by previous password hash?
[17:30] <EriC^> did run both commands or just the first?
[17:30] <NoImNotNineVolt> letterman: cat /etc/passwd
[17:30] <EriC^> CapsAdmin: aha cool
[17:31] <CapsAdmin> thanks, alkisg and EriC^
[17:31] <AvidWolf43> i have tried installing and this error pops up: https://pastebin.com/2J0jXma5
[17:31] <letterman> NoImNotNineVolt, that's my current, I need my previous.
[17:32] <CapsAdmin> i've looked into this all day lol
[17:32] <CapsAdmin> learned a lot at least
[17:32] <NoImNotNineVolt> letterman: cat /etc/passwd in your backups.
[17:32] <nacc> AvidWolf43: that is not an Ubuntu package.
[17:32] <letterman> also, it's etc/shadow to find the hashes
[17:32] <EriC^> CapsAdmin: no problem
[17:32] <nacc> AvidWolf43: read the message if you want to do what you are doing, but it's not supported here.
[17:32] <NoImNotNineVolt> letterman: you kids and your newfangled linuxes :P
[17:33] <letterman> I don't backup my laptop, all my documents are on the cloud
[17:33] <AvidWolf43> nacc: i did and i did rm -rf but it still keeps on
[17:33] <NoImNotNineVolt> then it seems that you may a copy of your old password hash may no longer exist in the filesystem.
[17:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> s/you may//
[17:34] <letterman> is there a way to look at the journal or file history for /etc/shadow
[17:34] <nacc> AvidWolf43: what did you do an `rm -rf` of?
[17:34] <nacc> letterman: no
[17:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> now you're venturing into forensic data recovery territory :P
[17:34] <letterman> yeah, well that may just be necessary in this case
[17:34] <AvidWolf43> my system lmao jk jk
[17:35] <AvidWolf43> '/var/lib/mysql/debian-*'
[17:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> that's going to run you a lot more than $20 and still have a low probability of success.
[17:35] <EriC^> letterman: /etc/shadow- is a backup file
[17:35] <E3X0J8S2> letterman: did you nuke your disk?
[17:35] <letterman> no my disk is intact
[17:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> indeed, but just looking over unlinked inodes is a pain, isn't it?
[17:35] <E3X0J8S2> letterman: sorry im late to the party, can you give me the full story?
[17:36] <letterman> So I used my previous password on a cryptowallet, and then my wife threw away the paper that I had wrote down the password on
[17:36] <letterman> cracking the wallet is 1,000x more difficult than cracking the MD5 hashes
[17:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> aren't they salted?
[17:37] <letterman> I have the salt
[17:37] <nacc> letterman: afaict, unless you go down the route of removing your disk physically and having someone do the forensics, you're probably out of luck. Definitely offtopic for #ubuntu, at this point.
[17:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/salt-bae
[17:37] <nacc> AvidWolf43: can you provide, in a pastebin, `ls -ahl /var/lib/mysql`
[17:38] <letterman> so ubuntu doesn't store like your last 10 passwords or whatever for security
[17:38] <NoImNotNineVolt> nacc: you might try running some basic heuristics to spot what looks like a shadow file somewhere in an unlinked inode. i don't know how to traverse unlinked inodes.
[17:38] <nacc> letterman: why would it?
[17:38] <EriC^> letterman: did you try /etc/shadow- ?
[17:38] <NoImNotNineVolt> sorry, letterman, not nacc
[17:38] <letterman> yeah, shadow- is the same hash as shadow
[17:38] <NoImNotNineVolt> letterman: that would be ubuntu, it would be pam or something.
[17:38] <ash_work> oh wow, I went on a tangent
[17:38] <NoImNotNineVolt> s/would/wouldn't/
[17:38] <letterman> nacc, lots of OSes will tell you you can't reuse passwords as a part of security
[17:38] <E3X0J8S2> letterman: do you have the hash?
[17:39] <nacc> letterman: that would be pam doing that, if anything
[17:39] <nacc> letterman: so you could go digging in pam's database, probably
[17:39] <AvidWolf43> nacc: https://pastebin.com/iRjrtWpN
[17:39] <letterman> how do I make pam puke it's database?
[17:39] <nacc> letterman: *if* you configured it as such
[17:39] <ash_work> when I do `docker stats` every write pollutes my terminal's history.... is there anyway to make that just write over itself?
[17:40] <nacc> AvidWolf43: well, per that output, you did not delete the files the log outputted
[17:40] <NoImNotNineVolt> yea, i don't think default install has any sort of reuse restrictions.
[17:40] <ash_work> like, watch wont work
[17:40] <mahi> hi
[17:40] <nacc> AvidWolf43: it syas to delete a specific file (glob)
[17:40] <letterman> it may not have the restriction turned on but taht doesn't mean it's not keeping the history
[17:40] <NoImNotNineVolt> that would be poor design :P
[17:40] <nacc> letterman: it would be insecure for it to keep the history if it's not using it
[17:40] <nacc> *more insecure*
[17:41] <NoImNotNineVolt> normally that wouldn't surprise me, but i'd imagine the people working on pam are more security-minded :P
[17:41] <letterman> expired password hashes are a security risk? barely
[17:41] <ash_work> piping to less prints the same stuff over and over...
[17:41] <NoImNotNineVolt> barely, if people don't use the same password in more than one place, and update all of their passwords regularly. neither of which is true.
[17:41] <E3X0J8S2> letterman: not if you're reusing to some degree
[17:42] <letterman> the effort to crack an expired hash is the same effort as cracking the current hash
[17:42] <jer> evidence enough that passwords are the dumbest idea that is religious to most people that humans have ever created.
[17:42] <nacc> letterman: you made a bad choice (using one password in multiple places) with a worse choice (physical backup on a postit (sounds like)) and as I said, this is not about Ubuntu anymore.
[17:42] <NoImNotNineVolt> as is evidenced in your own case: you're trying to recover an old password on one system in order to access another :P
[17:42] <NoImNotNineVolt> were you a malicious actor, you'd be exploiting the very security vulnerability we're debating.
[17:43] <letterman> if I have access to /etc/shadow than nothing we're debating is of consequence.
[17:43] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's the old /etc/shadow that you need.
[17:43] <NoImNotNineVolt> or, an old hash, rather.
[17:47] <nacc> letterman: please don't crosspost, especially in the wrong channel. This is the support channel.
[17:48] <EriC^> letterman: how long ago did she throw the paper away?
[17:49] <ash_work> I mean is there a set of options I should pass to less or something to make it just rewrite on every refresh?
[17:49] <nacc> ash_work: that's not how less works
[17:50] <ash_work> nacc: yeah, can you maybe put me on the right track?
[17:50] <EriC^> letterman: did you ever write the password in clear text in another command maybe? you could check old sudo commands from auth.log
[17:50] <nacc> ash_work: so, you want the equivalent of `watch docker stats`?
[17:51] <ash_work> nacc: watch docker stats doesn't print anything, but yeah
[17:51] <EriC^> or /root/.bash_history
[17:51] <ash_work> nacc: docker stats continually prints new stats in screenfuls
[17:53] <nacc> ash_work: so `docker stats` already 'refreshes', you just don't lik that it prints a sequence, rather than draws on itself?
[17:53] <ash_work> nacc: yes
[17:53] <nacc> ash_work: use --no-stream
[17:53] <nacc> ash_work: with watch?
[17:54] <nacc> ash_work: tbh, this is probably a docker questio
[17:54] <ash_work> nacc: I thought it would be a configuration issue
[17:54] <ash_work> nacc: for example, similar things happen in a screen
[17:55] <nacc> ash_work: what do you mean, exactly?
[17:57] <ash_work> nacc: sometimes if I don't set some screen settings, various things like top will print pages at a time also
[17:58] <nacc> ash_work: are you seeing this in screen (the docker stats issue)?
[17:59] <ash_work> nacc: seeing what exactly?
[18:00] <ash_work> nacc: I mean, yes... If I understand you correctly
[18:00] <nacc> ash_work: that `docker stats` is outputting a linear sequence? I don't use docker myself
[18:00] <ash_work> nacc: probably, I haven't checked, but that's not what I meant; I just meant that sometimes it seems like a shell issue where something that is suppose to print over itself actually prints sequentially
[18:01] <ash_work> nacc: I have seen that happen on remote screens before, and this is typically remedied with a screen configuration
[18:01] <ash_work> nacc: (docker not involved)
[18:10] <E3X0J8S2> Is anyone here on a macbook of any kind? I've got some questions
[18:20] <EriC^> !ask | E3X0J8S2
[18:22] <E3X0J8S2> Is anyone here on any form of macbook? I've got a few questions. Namely, how well does GRUB work on it, provided im using linux as a single boot? (i.e. completely removing macOS)
[18:32] <pos> there have been quite a few security updates coming from upstream (debian) in the last two or three weeks (kernel, imagetragic, gimp, etc) which have not yet made their way into ub repos?
[18:38] <nacc> pos: well, debian is not the upstream ... the upstream is the upstream.
[18:38] <nacc> pos: and it depends on the security update, the package, etc.
[18:38] <nacc> pos: but debian security fixes don't just appear in ubuntu anyways
[18:39] <loginoob> I am having this problem https://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[18:39] <loginoob> https://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[18:39] <pos> sure, but ub also has affected versions of gimp, imagemagic and ofc the kernel :)
[18:39] <pos> office holidays perhaps? :P
[18:39] <loginoob> I have tried all the solutions but still no luck
[18:39] <loginoob> what else can i do
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: on wich ubuntu version and graphics card chipset/driver?
[18:41] <loginoob> ubuntu 16.04, nvidia graphics
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: wich chipset specific?
[18:41] <nacc> pos: gimp is in universe in current Ubuntu
[18:41] <nacc> pos: when you say affected versions, what do you mean?
[18:41] <loginoob> lotuspsychje: I don't know the specific chipset
[18:42] <loginoob> It is a work laptop so i never looked about specific chipset
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: have you tried nomodeset to get into your desktop yet?
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: sudo lshw -C video shows your chipset+ current driver active
[18:42] <loginoob> lotuspsychje: no, didn't try that
[18:43] <E3X0J8S2> loginoob: I've had the same issue in the past, got around it by falling back onto nouveau IIRC
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | loginoob
[18:43] <pos> nacc, http://sejnfjrq6szgca7v.onion/security/2017/dsa-4077
[18:44] <pos> ub xenial: GNU Image Manipulation Program version 2.8.16
[18:44] <nacc> !info gimp xenial
[18:45] <nacc> pos: so there has been one security update
[18:45] <pos> http://sejnfjrq6szgca7v.onion/security/2017/dsa-4074
[18:45] <nacc> pos: the upstream version reportred by a program does not tell you what is or is not fixed in the Ubuntu package.
[18:45] <ash_work> pos ^ unreachable
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: what E3X0J8S2 suggesting can be done by sudpo apt purge nvidia* to fallback to nouveau, (if your current driver is an nvidia one)
[18:45] <pos> imagemagic also affected
[18:45] <nacc> pos: please provide URLs we can access :)
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: *sudo
[18:45] <nacc> pos: or CVE numbers
[18:45] <pos> replace the onion with debian.org then
[18:46] <pos> https://www.debian.org/security/2017/dsa-4077
[18:46] <pos> https://www.debian.org/security/2017/dsa-4074
[18:47] <nacc> pos: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2017/CVE-2017-12877.html
[18:47] <nacc> pos: similar for the other CVEs
[18:47] <pos> "needed" meaning...?
[18:48] <nacc> pos: someone on the security team has to do the work, it's a vulnerable version
[18:48] <pos> also, deb has kernel patches fixed upstream (source) dated *after* the latest ub kernel packages
[18:48] <pos> ofc, i know they're working on the intel memory mapping issue
[18:49] <nacc> pos: i don't parse your prior sentence
[18:49] <pos> but being three weeks behind in sec updates? what is this, windows patch tuesday style?
[18:50] <loginoob> lotuspsychje: I did the sudo apt purge nvidia as it was one of the answers
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: ubuntu-drivers list shows the ubuntu drivers available for your system/hardware
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: you can test this way between nvidia versions & the opensource driver
[18:52] <nacc> pos: i'm not sure what you mean by 3 weeks? per the Debian pages, they were olny reported last week.
[18:52] <loginoob> lotuspsychje: but how can i connect to wifi?
[18:52] <nacc> pos: i guess that might be when the DSA were reported
[18:52] <nacc> pos: if you have security questions, ask the security team
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: at wich point are you now?
[18:53] <nacc> pos: although, if you have actual security concerns, don't use imagemagick
[18:53] <loginoob> lotuspsychje: I am accessing root shell from recovery mode
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> loginoob: enable networking before entering rootshell
[18:53] <pos> yeah, well, any -desktop metapack kinda forces you into it :)
[18:53] <E3X0J8S2> loginoob: An easier solution is probably to boot into a livecd, connect to wifi there, mount your current linux partitions, and chroot into it
[18:54] <james1138> Hello to all from Indiana. Can I ask a question about Banshee media player here?
[18:54] <nacc> pos: I don't believe any -desktop metapackage forces you to use imagemagick
[18:54] <nacc> pos: it might be istalled, but you don't need to use it
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> james1138: yes its ubuntu related
[18:55] <loginoob> E3X0J8S2: Will try that as soon as i get access to live CD. that is my last option.
[18:55] <pos> i may be wrong about this, but isn't it used for say thumbnailing?
[18:56] <nacc> pos: give that you can remove it from 17.10 without removing anything else, I'd assume not.
[18:56] <pos> perhaps, but doen't 17.10 brick some uefi boards atm?
[18:57] <nacc> pos: dunno
[18:57] <loginoob> lotuspsychje: when i drop into enable networking it is on loop of grep: /etc/resolv.conf: No suck file or directory
[18:57] <pos> it does brick lenovos afaik
[18:57] <james1138> I am using ubuntu 16.04 and banshee... I see there is a radio station fetcher extension - but it is for version 2.40. Has anyone got the extension installed and working for the newer versions of Banshee?
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> pos: that issue should be solved by now
[18:58] <E3X0J8S2> loginoon: you need to be connected to a network first for resolv.conf to be updated I think
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> pos: we have users that solved it with installing higher kernels
[18:58] <pos> that may be the case, but won't installing using orig install media pose a risk?
[18:59] <loginoob> E3X0J8S2: By cable?
[18:59] <E3X0J8S2> loginoon: you can searh for available wifi networks using iwlist [wifi interface] scan
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> !info banshee xenial
[18:59] <E3X0J8S2> if you're on able, first check if you have an ethernet interface up. Try pinging. If there's no network connectvitiy, try getting a new DHCP lease using dhclient/dhcpcd etc.
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> james1138: this the version you should have on xenial^
[19:00] <nacc> pos: i'm on a lenovo, and have been for some time, with 17.10
[19:00] <nacc> pos: so not sure the breadth of the issue
[19:00] <E3X0J8S2> cable*
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> nacc: its big, want the bug url?
[19:00] <oijeeboo> !info triceratops xenial
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> nacc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1734147
[19:01] <nacc> lotuspsychje: thanks
[19:01] <james1138> Thank you lotus... but I was thinking about adding the extension to version 2.90 - it is just that I am having trouble getting the extension to work. I wonder what I am doing wrong.
[19:02] <nacc> lotuspsychje: heh, i might have got lucky, my laptop was off for about a month, so it jumped to -21
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> james1138: try not to mix package versions on ubuntu, instead use the version meant for xenial
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> nacc: neat!
[19:05] <hex__> oh hi
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot > oijeeboo
[19:05] <hex__> how are you guys?
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> hex__: welcome, how can we help you?
[19:06] <hex__> just want to chat lol
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> hex__: well this channel we use for ubuntu support issues only here mate
[19:07] <Bashing-om> hex__: General chat is in ubuntu-offtopic :)
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> !alis | hex__ for the topic you want
[19:07] <hex__> ok sorry ^_^
[19:11] <E3X0J8S2> why is ubuntu-offtopic for registered nicks only?
[19:11] <dax> because we don't like spam and random idiocy
[19:12] <faisal6767> hey
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> faisal6767: welcome, how can we help you?
[19:31] <surgubben1957> hi im an old cranky grandpa... i need an expert on installation.
[19:31] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: what do you need help with?
[19:31] <surgubben1957> i got an "ASUS VivoStick TS10-B004D" with an CPU "Intel Atom x5-Z8350".... Is it possible to install ubuntu on this?
[19:32] <Bashing-om> surgubben1957: What is the hardware specs, and what is the issue ?
[19:33] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: I don't think Ubuntu maintains a comprehensive hardware compatibility list, but it should work on most hardware
[19:33] <Bashing-om> Sigyn: :) .. I do not know atom. so can not say .
[19:33] <Bashing-om> surgubben1957: ^^ apologoes Sigyn for the bad hilight :(
[19:34] <ChronDon88> Can someone point me in the right direction of what is the image file for ubuntu on this drive
[19:34] <ChronDon88> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6gmJxBOdC9iYjE5a0xnVzJHNm8
[19:34] <ChronDon88> like to flash the PC?
[19:34] <surgubben1957> Bashing-om && E3X0J8S2: okey. do you know anyone that are good on Atom Cpu's? i thought an atom cpu was like an I3
[19:35] <surgubben1957> it was my grandchild that gave this crappy thing to me
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> surgubben1957: this stick works on usb 2 or 3?
[19:35] <surgubben1957> lotuspsychje: both
[19:35] <ChronDon88> appererntly this is the only place to get it for the board I have (I have searched for a long time)
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> surgubben1957: i i understand well, you want to install ubuntu full on this stick?
[19:36] <surgubben1957> lotuspsychje: an simple desktop
[19:36] <surgubben1957> lotuspsychje: gnome. or simular
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> ChronDon88: what are you trying to do exactly? can you share the full story plz? ubuntu version?
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> surgubben1957: usb will bottleneck your Os this way
[19:37] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: try testing it on a livecd first, that way you can see if basic features (eg. networking) works, and there won't be any damage to your file system
[19:37] <E3X0J8S2> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure, but I think he/she's trying to get it on the desktop
[19:37] <surgubben1957> lotuspsychje: ok E3X0J8S2: but should i use x64 x84 arm?
[19:39] <surgubben1957> E3X0J8S2: the storage is empty right now... did an fully format on the harddrive
[19:39] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: do you know the specific architecture of your machine?
[19:40] <E3X0J8S2> I'm not well acquainted on your particular hardware, but i'll try to help
[19:40] <surgubben1957> E3X0J8S2: its about 30000 floppy disks big the storage on this little thing
[19:40] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: be right back
[19:41] <surgubben1957> E3X0J8S2:  architecture  is asus. or do you mean somehing else?
[19:41] <surgubben1957> E3X0J8S2: i dont the architectures name. i can google it.
[19:55] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: I'm back.
[19:55] <surgubben1957> E3X0J8S2: welcome back
[19:55] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: I meant the computer architecture for the target (desktop? am I right?)
[19:55] <surgubben1957> E3X0J8S2: its an hdmi stick
[19:56] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: eg. 32-bit, 64-bit, ARM (unlikely) etc.
[19:56] <surgubben1957> 64 bit atom
[19:57] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: Okay, just to make sure. You have a usb stick with Ubuntu with you, you have a desktop (which harddrive you nuked), and you aim to install Ubuntu on the desktop, am I right? Correct me if I'm wrong
[19:59] <surgubben1957> i have done an 32 bit usb with rufos and i wounder if an Intel Atom x5-Z8350 is working with the ubuntu... so i dont try to install and it dont works
[20:00] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: Sorry, I'm not good with word plays, but what do you mean by "so i dont try to install and it dont works"?
[20:00] <surgubben1957> i want to use this computerstick with an desktop (gnome or simular)
[20:00] <surgubben1957> i have heard that it can trash the computer
[20:00] <surgubben1957> sorry for my bad english mate. im swedish
[20:01] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: That could potentially be true. But if you're running on livecd, there shouldn't be any permanent damage
[20:01] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: Again, feel free to clarify anything
[20:01] <surgubben1957> E3X0J8S2: livecd? i have it on a usb. can i call it liveusb? or what is the "live"
[20:02] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: Have you tried pluging the usb (with ubuntu flashed on it) into the desktop?
[20:02] <surgubben1957> yes and a promt came up
[20:02] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: Unlike most operating systems (that are written permanently to disk), most linux usb offer a "livecd" feature.
[20:02] <surgubben1957> test/install/and some otherstuff
[20:03] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: A temporary file system is used, so by default, whatever you do in that live session will be list upon poweroff, unless you explicitly write to the hard disk
[20:03] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: for the prompt, try entering the "test ubuntu (something like that"
[20:04] <surgubben1957> so if i press the "test ubuntu" it will be an temporary run of ubuntu.. aaaaaaahhhh an livecd
[20:04] <surgubben1957> now i understand
[20:04] <surgubben1957> im 60 years old so be dont judge me =)
[20:05] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: the main idea is that you try using the livecd for a while, make sure basic functionalites work (eg. network card detected, disk detected, etc.), before doing a permanent install to your hard disk
[20:05] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: no worries :)
[20:05] <surgubben1957> okey... ill press the test thing. and then i will came back too you
[20:06] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: hold on, I need some output from you
[20:06] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: can you open a terminal? (using control + alt + t)
[20:06] <surgubben1957> it still an icon of ubuntu
[20:07] <surgubben1957> give it a sec
[20:07] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: icon of ubuntu? is it still loading?
[20:07] <surgubben1957> yes i think so...the fan thats buzzing iis really loud and i see it blink
[20:07] <surgubben1957> not the fan tho
[20:08] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: I'm confused. Have you entered the livecd environment? (ubuntu desktop). Also, what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[20:08] <surgubben1957> i found an 16.04
[20:09] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: Ideally, you want to use the newest available version, for better hardware support (due to newer kernels), but you should be careful getting 17.10 if you're on a Lenovo, IIRC
[20:12] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: any progress? Update me if so
[20:12] <BluesKaj> Exagone313, I'm running Kubuntu 17.10 on a Lenovo G500 laptop without a hitch
[20:14] <E3X0J8S2> BluesKaj: For context: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/21/ubuntu_lenovo_bios/
[20:15] <BluesKaj> E3X0J8S2, oops  ^
[20:15] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: you there?
[20:16] <surgubben1957> E3X0J8S2: i dont think i need more help... it buzzed an popped
[20:16] <surgubben1957> and now it wont start up
[20:17] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: "buzzed an popped"?
[20:17] <surgubben1957> smells kinda hot
[20:17] <E3X0J8S2> oh god
[20:17] <surgubben1957> the screen became greenish. and then black
[20:18] <nicomachus> she's dead jim
[20:18] <surgubben1957> now can i use it as an doorstop
[20:18] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: Sorry to hear :(
[20:19] <rora> Hi.  Having a hard time redirecting incoming TCP connections for port Y to port X instead.  This should do it, right?  sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 8443 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 443
[20:19] <surgubben1957> E3X0J8S2: dont be sorry... it was kinda fun... in my age every little thing is fun
[20:19] <BluesKaj> E3X0J8S2, no uefi/bios problems here with Kubuntu 17.10
[20:20] <E3X0J8S2> BluesKaj: Not to say all of the Lenovo line is affected, just a heads up
[20:20] <BluesKaj> E3X0J8S2, right, guess i got lucky
[20:21] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: anything else i can help with? Do you need me to document your case?
[20:23] <surgubben1957> E3X0J8S2: im good. i think it just is bad cards in it. im gonna go and buy one new one tomorrw to see if the same thing happens =)
[20:23] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: All right, good luck :)
[20:25] <surgubben1957> E3X0J8S2: thank you again. ill be back tommorw. cheers
[20:26] <E3X0J8S2> surgubben1957: no worries. have a good day
[20:30] <EriC^> rora: yes that should work
[20:31] <rora> EriC^: Okay, must be the fact that I'm running it under Vagrant/VirtualBox.  Must be screwing up the networking somehow.
[20:39] <semitones_rex> hey I can mount a multi-partition image, make changes, and umount, and those changes will be reflected in the image file, correct?
[20:39] <lotuspsychje> !mount | semitones_rex
[20:40] <nicomachus> semitones_rex: in a live media?
[20:42] <minty> Hi
[20:42] <semitones_rex> nicomachus, it is an image of an SD card, made with dd, saved as name.img
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> minty: welcome, how can we help you?
[20:42] <alkisg> semitones_rex: one easy way is with losetup /dev/loop5 image.dd; partprobe /dev/loop5; mount /dev/loop5p1 /mnt
[20:43] <alkisg> ...and umount; losetup -d /dev/loop5
[20:43] <minty> hi lotus, just seen the news re Intel fuckup and wondered how quick a kernel fix may be ready
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> minty: plz keep the language clean in this channel
[20:44] <nicomachus> minty: best to ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[20:44] <E3X0J8S2> minty: just read about it too
[20:44] <minty> sorry about that
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> minty: kernels up to 14.9 and 14.10 seems to fix for that lenovo bug
[20:44] <semitones_rex> alkisg, thanks, i'm trying to understand now. Does losetup make a /dev/loop5 when you give it image.dd?
[20:44] <minty> will try nice
[20:44] <minty> *nico
[20:44] <alkisg> semitones_rex: the device already exists, and it binds the image to that block device, yes
[20:45] <minty> cheers lotus. Is that the Intel bug you're talking about (Lenovo)?
[20:45] <minty> user pace accessing kernel memory pages I mean
[20:46] <dax> the Lenovo bug and the KPTI/Intel thing are completely unrelated
[20:46] <minty> thanks dax I thought they may be
[20:46] <minty> The KPTI  Intel procs as far as I can tell
[20:47] <minty> (Affects all)
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> minty: oh nvm then i was talking about the lenovo bug
[20:47] <blip99> The repos on xenial have too old of a version of strongswan and network-manager-strongswan which aren't compatible with the network-manager version in the repos.  Thus the package network-manager-strongswan is useless in the current state https://wiki.strongswan.org/projects/strongswan/wiki/NetworkManager
[20:48] <minty> :) lotus
[20:48] <blip99> "Versions before NetworkManager-strongswan 1.4.0 / strongSwan 5.5.1 don't work with NetworkManager 1.2 and newer (some patches may be applied to older strongSwan releases to use the updated NM plugin, refer to our Download page for details)."
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> minty: you got the bug url of yours?
[20:49] <minty> Just read here lotus : https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/
[20:49] <semitones_rex> alkisg, i'm hoping to be able to make changes to files in the mounted file systems, and keep the changes. Will that be allowed in this system?
[20:49] <semitones_rex> Like, i guess, is the image mounted read/write or read only
[20:49] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: it's an embargoed CVE affecting Intel CPUs of the last 10 years; As far as I can tell the embargo is lifted at 12:00 UTC tomorrow, Thursday.
[20:49] <alkisg> semitones_rex: yes, the image is mounted read/write that way
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: kk tnx for the headsup
[20:50] <semitones_rex> alkisg, cool. the image is a backup, and i'm going to periodically mount the sd card, mount the image, and use rsync to keep the backup current
[20:51] <TJ-> minty: KPTI (Kernel Page Table Isolation a.k.a KAISER) patches from upstream 4.15 will be backported once 4.15 is out and we know there are no more fixes for the patch-set (such as the one that AMD have submitted as their CPUs do need the workaround)
[20:51] <minty> I run linux on AMD but have an interest in the bug as I have a load of stuff running on Intel which is multi tenented
[20:52] <TJ-> s/do need/do NOT need/  ... what a typo!
[20:52] <minty> Ohhh though the AMD wasn't affected as the arch is diff
[20:53] <minty> cheers guys will watch this space then
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: will it pop up on !usn?
[20:54] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: once the CVE is public, yes
[20:54] <lotuspsychje> ok great
[20:54] <PaulVern> I want to setup 6 VMs on a dedicated server (which I'm renting). I've used Hyper-V (Windows) and VirtualBox in the past
[20:54] <PaulVern> what's the best, headless, free, virtualisation software to do this?
[20:54] <lotuspsychje> PaulVern: perhaps take a look at #ubuntu-server
[20:54] <PaulVern> ok :(
[20:54] <TJ-> PaulVern: Linux's in-kernel KVM via QEMU
[20:55] <TJ-> !info qemu | PaulVern
[20:55] <lotuspsychje> !usn | minty keep an eye here then :p
[20:55] <TJ-> !info qemu-kvm | PaulVern
[20:55] <minty> cheers will do
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> minty: and of course in all cases, keep your ubuntu up to date
[20:56] <PaulVern> TJ-: Thanks, I'll check that out
[20:56] <TJ-> PaulVern: there are userspace tools to wrap it for making it easier to manage, such as libvirt, with virsh (CLI) and virtual-manager (GUI)
[20:57] <TJ-> PaulVern: libvirt abstracted management so it can be used with several different hypervisor types
[20:57] <minty> for sure
[20:58] <martin__> hi, did some patch get released regarding intel memory areas bug?
[20:59] <PaulVern> TJ-: And will this let me give each VM a different public ip address (assuming I pay for each extra IP on the host)?
[20:59] <lotuspsychje> martin__: not public yet, keep track of !usn please
[20:59] <martin__> Thanks
[21:00] <semitones_rex> alkisg, last question, when I mount the /dev/loop5p1 /mnt, I can choose any mountpoint, right? and then I also can do mount /dev/loop5p2 /path/to/mnt ...?
[21:01] <alkisg> semitones_rex: exactly, and the p2 part is the partition index
[21:03] <TJ-> PaulVern: indeed; any configuration you need
[21:11] <radix_> hello friends
[21:11] <ash_work> o/
[21:11] <radix_> a search stable linux distro
[21:11] <radix_> ?
[21:11] <radix_> help me
[21:11] <ash_work> ?
[21:12] <radix_> i search stable linux distro
[21:12] <alicia_carter013> !info ubuntu
[21:12] <alkisg> radix_: ubuntu is stable, you can use it
[21:12] <ash_work> radix_: you're looking for a stable linux distro?
[21:12] <radix_> my distro is peppermint
[21:12] <radix_> is good or not
[21:12] <radix_> ?
[21:13] <alkisg> radix_: peppermint is based on lubuntu. We support official ubuntu flavors here, so we support lubuntu, but not peppermint.
[21:14] <radix_> so ubuntu is the best of linux
[21:14] <ash_work> radix_: that's kind of subjective
[21:15] <alicia_carter013> !info abcde
[21:15]  * Toadisattva big fan of lubuntu, all the power of ubuntu yet so incredibly lightweight
[21:15] <ash_work> radix_: that opinion varies by degress of user-friendliness, security, minimalism, etc.
[21:16] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot > alicia_carter013
[21:19] <alicia_carter013> mm. cool.
[21:19] <alicia_carter013> thanks.
[21:31] <satonio> Hello. I have ubuntu 16.04 and plugged a nvidia 1060 to replace my old ati card and now i cannot start unity nor cinnamon. If I stop lightdm (which seems to work fine) and do startx it ends with Deleting GPU-0 and then Sever terminated succesfully without an error in Xorg log. Any ideas about what can I do?
[21:32] <lotuspsychje> satonio: did you try a sudo service lightdm restart?
[21:33] <lotuspsychje> satonio: startx is not the right way anymore
[21:33] <satonio> just tried but i get an error about 1 second after putting the password and then back to lightdm
[21:33] <lotuspsychje> satonio: you might also check your drivers: ubuntu-drivers list
[21:34] <lotuspsychje> satonio: perhaps try ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[21:34] <satonio> tried with autoinstall
[21:34] <satonio> yesterday
[21:34] <satonio> drivers list gives me: nvidia-384 and intel-microcode
[21:35] <lotuspsychje> satonio: try sudo apt purge nvidia*
[21:35] <lotuspsychje> satonio: to get back to nouveau
[21:36] <lotuspsychje> satonio: after that, reboot and try again an nvidia driver, or !nomodeset to bypass black screens
[21:36] <satonio> tried that yesterday and got black screen without even be able to get the command prompt
[21:36] <satonio> and i wasnt able to get the lightdm until i used nomodeset
[21:36] <satonio> but i can try again
[21:36] <lotuspsychje> satonio: try that purge from nomodeset perhaps?
[21:37] <lotuspsychje> satonio: system should boot with the opensource driver
[21:37] <satonio> ok i can try that
[21:37] <satonio> rebooting in nomodeset
[21:37] <lotuspsychje> im out, good luck satonio
[21:37] <lotuspsychje> satonio: if you cant get in, come back here and ask ok
[21:38] <satonio> ok ty
[21:44] <satonio> seems like black screen, again
[21:45] <cfoch__> hello, has sb here used signxml?
[22:04] <bkeys> Where can I find a torrent for xubuntu 14.04 for ARM at?
[22:04] <diskin> hi all, which is the most recent kernel that could be installed on 16.04.3 (xenial)?
[22:06] <rfleming> bkeys: I don't believe one exists
[22:06] <bkeys> What about a regular download?
[22:06] <rfleming> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[22:06] <bkeys> I don't see anything for ARM here
[22:07] <rfleming> bkeys: I just said that
[22:07] <rfleming> there isn't one
[22:07] <bkeys> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[22:07] <bkeys> Yes there is
[22:07] <bkeys> Oh wait it's amd65
[22:07] <MWM> I am trying to upgrade from Lubuntu 16.04  "sudo do-release-upgrade" returns "No new release found"
[22:07] <bkeys> Ithought it was arm64
[22:08] <rfleming> AMD64 is 64 bit intel
[22:08] <MWM> is there something Im missing to do an in place upgrade?
[22:08] <rfleming> (and AMD)
[22:08] <bkeys> So only 16.04 supports ARM?
[22:08] <bkeys> Yeah I misread it
[22:09] <dax> !upgradeofflts | MWM
[22:10] <rfleming> I don't believe any release, with the exception of MATE and Server run on arm
[22:11] <bkeys> Is there a version of the server 14.04 edition?
[22:12] <MWM> ubottu knows all.  Thanks guys :D
[22:13] <rfleming> bkeys: doesn't appear there is an arm version of 14.04
[22:13] <rfleming> only 16.04
[22:13] <bkeys> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/14.04/
[22:13] <bkeys> I found this but don't know what to make of it
[22:13] <rfleming> bkeys: netboot is a minimal ISO that downloads during install
[22:14] <bkeys> Couldn't this be used to install 14.04 on an ARM machine though?
[22:14] <rfleming> I guess
[22:16] <genii> bkeys: Yes. Then just use tasksel to install the server things
[22:16] <genii> ( as the ubuntu-server install already does )
[22:16] <bkeys> Wait, but could I get this to install it on the hard drive?
[22:16] <bkeys> Cause I want to put it on a chromebook
[22:18] <genii> Chromebooks are apparently a pain to install linux on. Most people use crouton and run it under the ChromeOS
[22:21] <TJ-> bkeys: there are netboot 14.04 images for ARM: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/trusty/
[22:22] <bkeys> Yeah, can those install on a hard drive?
[22:22] <TJ-> bkeys: this guide shows how to use them (I see you found the URL before me!) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[22:23] <bkeys> Hmm, but I want to install to the hard disk
[22:29] <TJ-> bkeys: the idea is you run the TFTP/DHCP server on another system and have the target netboot from the files it provides, the netboot-ed installer then runs and installs to the local disk as usual. This netboot is an alternative when there is no installer ISO image, or that won't work for some reason
[22:29] <bkeys> I see, and there is no public machine to netboot from?
[22:31] <whitebeast> this may seem like a simple question but i have tried everything i can think of. i put a new graphics card into my computer, i downloaded drivers and got the video working but i still cant get sound out of it via hdmi
[22:31] <satonio> are the hdmi output in the list?
[22:31] <whitebeast> yes\
[22:31] <satonio> have you tried pavucontrol?
[22:32] <whitebeast> im not familiar with that term
[22:33] <satonio> pulse audio volume control, it's another software you can use to change the output device just in case the problem is a bug in the control panel youre using to change it
[22:33] <whitebeast> i can give it a try.. 1 sec
[22:33] <satonio> i've seen weird behaviour specially when using bluetooth devices of the one that comes with unity and the one that comes with cinnamon
[22:35] <whitebeast> available versions of pulse audio are only up to 13.10  im running 16.04 is that going to be an issue?
[22:36] <satonio> pulseaudio comes with ubuntu afaik
[22:36] <nacc> whitebeast: pulseaudio's version is unrelated to ubuntu's version.
[22:36] <E3X0J8S2> whitebeast: no
[22:36] <nacc> whitebeast: what 13.10 are you referring to? that's not present in any ubuntu
[22:37] <bjornmose> rmose
[22:37] <whitebeast> the available options of download for pulse audio only supports up to ubuntu 13.10
[22:37] <ChronDon88>  is guest in ubuntu limited on what it can do?
[22:37] <satonio> why are you trying to download pulseaudio?
[22:37] <satonio> i think you should be using it already
[22:37] <ChronDon88> like application wise?
[22:38] <nacc> whitebeast: you're doing something wrong
[22:38] <bjornmose> join #blenderdosers
[22:38] <whitebeast> in the ubuntu software center?
[22:38] <nacc> whitebeast: for one thing, the latest pulseaudio release is 11.1
[22:39] <satonio> whitebeast: do apt install pavucontrol
[22:39] <whitebeast> ok so i guess on your system its called pulse audio..... on my system its called sound
[22:39] <whitebeast> yes its the same thing im using already
[22:39] <whitebeast> and yes it had to be installed
[22:41] <satonio> Hello. I have ubuntu 16.04 and plugged a nvidia 1060 to replace my old ati card and now i cannot start unity nor cinnamon. If I stop lightdm (which seems to work fine) and do startx it ends with Deleting GPU-0 and then Sever terminated succesfully without an error in Xorg log. Any ideas about what can I do? if i delete nvidia drivers then it boots to black screen without prompt if i don't add nomodeset. Also tried creating a new user jus
[22:43] <ikonia> satonio: I suggest you remove the xorg config and remove an ati packages you installed
[22:43] <whitebeast> ok i have pulse audio now what
[22:44] <ikonia> satonio: you can also view the xorg log for fatal errors
[22:44] <blastermaster_> remove the ait packages and the xorg and install the nvidia drivers
[22:45] <satonio> i already tried that yesterday. i had no fgrlx package installed, no xorg.conf file, and nvidia drivers are installed
[22:45] <satonio> also i blacklisted nouveau just in case was causing problems and and nothing changed
[22:45] <_0xbadc0de> hello
[22:46] <_0xbadc0de> When I try to install ubuntu server v17 on my laptop , after the bootloader loads what seems to be a vga driver (its too fast on systemd to be sure) I get a blank screen and nothing
[22:46] <satonio> ikonia: there are no fatal errors on xorg log
[22:47] <satonio> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26315539/
[22:47] <_0xbadc0de> I dont even have a terminal
[22:47] <_0xbadc0de> any clues?
[22:48] <EriC^^> _0xbadc0de: maybe try checking the logs in /etc/lightdm
[22:48] <EriC^^> _0xbadc0de: even ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work?
[22:48] <_0xbadc0de> hmm but I dont have a terminal
[22:48] <_0xbadc0de> sec
[22:48] <ikonia> satonio: there will be
[22:48] <ikonia> satonio: or it would be starting
[22:49] <satonio> where can i find those errors?
[22:49] <ikonia> that log looks truncated
[22:50] <_0xbadc0de> after booting, (and dark screen) doesn't seem to be doing anything
[22:50] <_0xbadc0de> ctrl+alt+f1
[22:50] <satonio> yes it seems so but there is almost the same when it's complete
[22:50] <satonio> i can generate a new one
[22:50] <ikonia> satonio: you should see an EE error if it's failing to start
[22:51] <whitebeast> support channel is right.. nothing gets fixed
[22:51] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | _0xbadc0de
[22:52] <FishPencil> How do I disable mouse acceleration on Ubuntu LTS
[22:55] <satonio> there is no EE error
[22:56] <satonio> the new one
[22:56] <satonio> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26315760/
[22:56] <blastermaster_> @FishPencil,If you are on GNOME, Install gnome-tweak-tool, go to "Keyboard and Mouse" and change "Acceleration profile" to "flat"
[22:58] <_0xbadc0de> interesting
[22:58] <_0xbadc0de> I edit the boot commands (in grub) and append "nomodeset"
[22:59] <satonio> blastermaster_: try to open pavucontrol and set audio output with it
[22:59] <_0xbadc0de> I get unrecognised option `nomodeset`
[23:00] <FishPencil> blastermaster_: It's just the default. Is Unity Gnome?
[23:01] <_0xbadc0de> to be more precise: error: can't find command 'nomodeset'
[23:03] <E3X0J8S2> FishPencil: This is more technically obscure, but I believe you can do it through xinput as well
[23:03] <gambl0re> in this page here https://askubuntu.com/questions/920840/installing-mysql-workbench-in-ubuntu-14-04
[23:03] <akik> _0xbadc0de: nomodeset should be on the same line that starts with linux, not on its own line
[23:04] <gambl0re> wget is used to download the file from the page. dpkg is used to extract the files.
[23:04] <gambl0re> why do i need to do apt-get install mysql-workbench-community?
[23:04] <gambl0re> didnt i already get the file with wget?
[23:05] <_0xbadc0de> akik: is that the linux command?
[23:05] <akik> _0xbadc0de: linux line in grub config
[23:07] <satonio> _0xbadc0de: where are you putting nomodeset? it seems youre putting it in the wrong place
[23:08] <_0xbadc0de> da fuck?
[23:08] <_0xbadc0de> I am patching grub startup script
[23:08] <_0xbadc0de> also it works
[23:08] <_0xbadc0de> nomodeset was a good option
[23:08] <akik> no idea :)
[23:08] <E3X0J8S2> gambl0re: What's your story?
[23:11] <satonio> any idea about how can i find the error?
[23:14] <insidious> Any idea why my apps would keep not responding and turning gray?
[23:14] <satonio> it might be an hdd issue
[23:14] <insidious> Ubuntu 17.10.
[23:15] <insidious> A brand new SSD?
[23:15] <insidious> lol
[23:15] <satonio> well the ssd could be defective
[23:15] <insidious> doubt it, gentoo on dual boot has no issues.
[23:15] <insidious> ^__^
[23:15] <satonio> ok
[23:16] <insidious> Just started happening after the upgrade to 17.10.
[23:16] <insidious> from 16.04
[23:17] <satonio> there's something in dmesg?
[23:19] <insidious> https://pastebin.com/nBErrEsQ
[23:19] <insidious> is the dmesg
[23:21] <insidious> like example right now if i switch songs in rythombox it will freeze up after i play the song for like 2-3mins
[23:21] <insidious> song will play but app like locks up
[23:21] <oem> Hi
[23:21] <insidious> don't make logic.
[23:22] <satonio> what's the proccess status?
[23:23] <satonio> executing? waiting?
[23:23] <insidious> what do you mean?
[23:24] <satonio> if you do 'top' what is the value of the proccess in the list when its failing?
[23:24] <satonio> the value of the 'S' column
[23:25] <insidious> satonio, looks normal.
[23:25] <satonio> what's normal? whats the 'S' value?
[23:26] <satonio> S? R? D?
[23:26] <skinux> Does anyone know of a way to add file tagging feature to nautilus, or one of the other popular file managers?
[23:26] <insidious> is  S
[23:29] <insidious> discord was doing it as well earlier
[23:29] <insidious> when i would leave the app and switch to something else
[23:30] <insidious> i would have to close and re open the application.
[23:30] <_0xbadc0de> btw, how do I make nomodeset a permanent option?
[23:31] <insidious> you think its a issue with unity?
[23:31] <E3X0J8S2> _0xbadc0de: IIRC, edit /etc/default/grub/
[23:31] <E3X0J8S2> _0xbadc0de: append nomodeset to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[23:32] <E3X0J8S2> insidious: Ubuntu 17.10 uses gnome, not unity
[23:32] <insidious> im using unity
[23:33] <insidious> i did a upgrade via terminal. from 16.04
[23:33] <insidious> need screenshot?
[23:34] <Ben64> insidious: 16.04 to 16.10 to 17.04 to 17.10?
[23:34] <insidious> https://imgur.com/a/QFe8y
[23:34] <insidious> correct.
[23:34] <_0xbadc0de> works
[23:35] <Ben64> thats a lot of upgrading, could have waited a few months for 18.04 and upgraded directly to that
[23:35] <insidious> going to upgrade tmrw to the alpha
[23:35] <insidious> :D
[23:36] <insidious> Ben64, do you think that is the reason for the app freezings?
[23:36] <Ben64> no
[23:36] <insidious> was running flawlessly up until about hour ago.
[23:37] <insidious> i noticed i started getting these issues.
[23:38] <Ben64> it's happening because something is lagging
[23:38] <insidious> i wonder what?
[23:38] <insidious> htop looks fine
[23:38] <insidious> using almost nothing.
[23:39] <E3X0J8S2> insidious: Any processes hogging memory (check using ps auwx)? Is CPU throttling? Tried rebooting?
[23:39] <pierre__> hi
[23:39] <insidious> yeah i rebooted more times then i should for Linux.
[23:40] <insidious> system is running fine.
[23:40] <insidious> its the apps
[23:40] <E3X0J8S2> insidious: ps auwx --sort=-%mem
[23:40] <E3X0J8S2> insidious: sry im not much of a help..i'm not sure why im lurking here even tho im on gentoo
[23:41] <gambl0re> how do i access /var/lib/mysql dir
[23:41] <gambl0re> it says permission denied
[23:41] <insidious> https://pastebin.com/wW7a5DyB
[23:41] <gambl0re> im logged in as root
[23:42] <_0xbadc0de> I edited /Etc/networking/interfaces how should I restart networking?
[23:42] <_0xbadc0de> I added dhcp for eth0
[23:43] <insidious> i have more then enough ram.
[23:43] <insidious> cpu is quad core i5
[23:43] <_0xbadc0de> I tried sudo ifup eth0 - ifup command not found
[23:43] <insidious> shouldn't have these issues with resources i'm using atm.
[23:44] <E3X0J8S2> _0xbadc0de: i think you meant ifconfig eth0 up
[23:44] <E3X0J8S2> insidious: it's non-reproducible on your gentoo?
[23:44] <_0xbadc0de> eth0: error while getting interface flags; No such device
[23:45] <E3X0J8S2> _0xbadc0de: check available interfaces with ifconfig first
[23:45] <_0xbadc0de> the only one listed is lo
[23:45] <E3X0J8S2> _0xbadc0de: ifconfig -a to be exact
[23:45] <_0xbadc0de> eno1
[23:45] <insidious> issues with gentoo don't exsist.
[23:45] <_0xbadc0de> eno1 and lo
[23:46] <insidious> im considering rm -rf and expanded the drive to gentoo if i can't get it sorted
[23:46] <insidious> quite annoying.
[23:46] <Ben64> insidious: i bet its something to do with compiz
[23:46] <insidious> you think it has to do with the display manager?
[23:46] <insidious> not being able to start wayland?
[23:46] <Ben64> it's probably a feature
[23:47] <Ben64> dim app if ....blah
[23:47] <insidious> ^
[23:47] <insidious> that its actually what its doing dim app and freezing it
[23:47] <_0xbadc0de> eno1 is now up
[23:47] <Ben64> i haven't used compiz for >10 years though so i can't really help you fix that
[23:47] <E3X0J8S2> _0xbadc0de: replace eth0 with en01
[23:47] <insidious> but its still working justn ot to me.
[23:47] <Ben64> check the compiz settings
[23:47] <_0xbadc0de> but I dont think dhcp happened, I patched interfaces file accordingly
[23:48] <insidious> what's compiz?
[23:48] <insidious> i don't use that.
[23:48] <Ben64> yes you do
[23:48] <Ben64> line 7 of your pastebin
[23:48] <E3X0J8S2> insidious: compiz is shipped by default i think
[23:48] <_0xbadc0de> I have auto eno1
[23:48] <insidious> can i remove it?
[23:48] <_0xbadc0de> iface eno1 inet dhcp
[23:48] <E3X0J8S2> _0xbadc0de: why are you manually editing?
[23:48] <insidious> i don't see it under applications.
[23:49] <E3X0J8S2> insidious: try 'dpkg -l |grep compiz'
[23:49] <_0xbadc0de> Because I need internet on the machine?
[23:49] <Ben64> _0xbadc0de: why not use the network manager
[23:49] <_0xbadc0de> its ubuntu server
[23:49] <E3X0J8S2> _0xbadc0de: ah
[23:49] <Ben64> ok now it makes sense
[23:49] <insidious> E3X0J8S2, do you want the output of that?
[23:50] <E3X0J8S2> insidious: use that to check if compiz is installed. It is if it's listed
[23:50] <_0xbadc0de> I just need to restart networking so I can force it to dhcp
[23:50] <_0xbadc0de> how can I do that?
[23:50] <E3X0J8S2> _0xbadc0de: systemctl restart networking
[23:50] <insidious> yeah it shows... but for gnomw.
[23:50] <insidious> erm
[23:50] <insidious> gnome.
[23:51] <_0xbadc0de> Failed to restart networking.service; Unit networking.service not found.
[23:51] <_0xbadc0de> I am on ubuntu server 17 fresh install
[23:51] <E3X0J8S2> _0xbadc0de: try 'service networking restart'
[23:52] <_0xbadc0de> same
[23:53] <E3X0J8S2> _0xbadc0de: try '/etc/init.d/networking restart'
[23:53] <TJ-> _0xbadc0de: 17.10 does not use ifupdown, it uses netplan to either configure NetworkManager (desktop) or systemd-networkd (server)
[23:53] <TJ-> _0xbadc0de: see the release notes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes#Network_configuration
[23:55] <_0xbadc0de> TJ but will the network manager still read from /etc/networking/interfaces?
[23:56] <TJ-> _0xbadc0de: it never had, it uses configs in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[23:57] <E3X0J8S2> TJ-: he's on ubuntu server
[23:58] <TJ-> E3X0J8S2: right, so it's systemd-networkd, and config's under /etc/systemd/network/
[23:58] <E3X0J8S2> TJ-: that's something new, haven't been keeping up ^_^
[23:58] <TJ-> the idea is to create a config in /etc/netplan that is then applied automatically to whichever service manages network connections