[00:15] Hey all, had a quick question, I want some files encrpyted, i woulle like ot use gpg naturally, but gaining root on this box allow that user to access it's OS keychain. Anyone know how ot use gpg but not input the possphrase into the keychain? [00:16] my fea is someone steals my box, drops to to init 1, changes the root, gains access to the keychain, and then they got access to my gpg protected files [00:16] ikonia: fyi, i was able to get on-the-fly hostname changing to work without a reboot [00:18] !gpg | c00lwhip can this help? [00:18] c00lwhip can this help?: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts [00:20] c00lwhip: you have at least two options: (1) save the gpg keys in removeable storage; (2) encrypt your harddrive === HappyHotDog is now known as CanadianRevenueA === CanadianRevenueA is now known as HappyHotDog [00:21] c00lwhip: also, the passphrase is not stored in the key chain, I think you were referring to the private key [00:22] on ubuntu server we can install Moinmoin wiki server [00:22] is it will like real wikipedia site? [00:23] hggh the problem is I encrypt a file. gpg access for me to input th epassword twice as it should. Then when I go to decrypt it, it just does it. Doesn't prompt me for a password for anything [00:23] I'm reading ubuntu server and now LAMP aplications [00:23] MoinMoin is good [00:24] Neo1: we have #ubuntu-server you can ask perhaps [00:24] Maybe I just don't know how it works entirely. If I move the gpg encrypted file to another machine, thne they are uable to open it, whcih is great. But I want users of this mchine to need the enter the passphrase as well [00:25] as far as i know it's only saved in memory and goes away on logout [00:25] i don't have a lot of experience with it though [00:30] dax I will try that [00:30] dax, thanks [00:31] c00lwhip: dax: i believe that's all controlled by the (new and required in gpg2) gpg-agent, no? [00:31] I believe you can configure how long that stays resident for, etc. === Elimin8r is now known as Elimin8er [00:45] hey boys === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [01:12] hi . i have a few questions . i am not sure if it is my samsung 9 laptop or ubuntu 16.04. the biggest issue is this: while i am typing, the mouse will suddenly jump up four or five lines and select the region. i wind up deleting a bunch of text and have to undo it. i am not sure if this is a touchpad sensitivity matter. has anyone experienced similar ever? [01:14] easy peasy; disable the touchpad [01:15] (if you really meant the cursor, because if your mouse is jumping, you might want to go for .357) [01:19] xubuntu 17.10: After restarting my computer, when I launch my browser for the first time (iridium) I get a prompt saying "Your keyring was not unlocked at login. Enter password to unlock." [01:19] any way to make that stop happening? [01:19] auto-login is disabled already [01:20] hola [01:29] anybody from india? [01:29] !in | gowri [01:29] gowri: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India [01:30] JoshuaD: You can open passwords and keys then set the password to "blank" as in no password. It is not recommend though as it stores passwords unencrypted I think [01:30] @kenrin: is there a way to do it that is secure? [01:32] I don't know. I just disabled my auto login so it would unlock the ring the same time as my desktop [01:33] Honesly though, if you don't care about the password save feature on the browser you shouldn't have any passwords that would be stored unecrypted in the ring [01:56] hi [01:56] pstk__: welcome, how can we help you? [01:56] I'm running ubunt 17. I have a camera plugged in PTP mode [01:57] And in nautilus, no thumbnail ... [01:58] https://lut.im/8Tbpn992xC/XLSPZfR9rlIrH3Df.png [01:58] can you help me ? [01:58] tweaktool and add the gnome-shell extension that does that [02:00] kk4ewt: told to me? [02:21] so i put another hardrive in my computer, i went to gparted and and formatted it to fat32 and now its just gone. cant find it anywhere [02:22] im running 16.04 [02:24] whitebeast, "gone"? What does 'lsblk -f' show? === zen-guy is now known as coffeeguy === coffeeguy is now known as zen_guy [02:27] lordcirth https://paste.ubuntu.com/26310272/ [02:30] i have 3 drives in there 2 80g and 1 other.. its one of the 80 gb that dissapeard after i formatted it [02:31] whitebeast: did you refresh gparted [02:31] wouldnt an entire system restart take care of that? === lazarus_zed_ is now known as lazarus_zed [02:33] whitebeast: you can try, but i mean after gparted format try to apply and refresh or so? === one is now known as Guest41427 [02:35] whatsapp [02:35] lotus i just refreshed and its still not there [02:35] this mr one nine [02:36] show \ [02:36] hey [02:36] whitebeast: check your syslog? [02:37] how do i go about doing that? [02:37] whitebeast: /var/log/syslog or the logviewer icon [02:39] where should I hang out to talk about graphics drivers ? [02:39] same question here for theorem's question [02:39] I can't get ubuntu 16.04 [02:39] to recognize my AMD graphics card [02:40] lotus is there a way to go back in time on the syslog? [02:42] 'go back in time on the syslog' what? [02:42] whitebeast: the syslog is on a logrotate schedule. if it was in yesterday's syslog you'd have to go read through /var/log/syslog.1 or similar [02:43] if you want ot read syslog from ten minutes ago, just read /var/log/syslog and don't tail the end, just hunt for the timestamp you were after [02:43] but no there's not another way to 'go back in time' on the syslog. [02:43] it isn't a time machine [02:45] thanks teward but it the event happend before it updated. i need to go back to ( such as yesterday ) [02:46] other than what packages are installed and the gui is there a real differnece between ubuntu desktop and server? === lordcirth_ is now known as lordcirth [02:46] Jakethepython, very little. A few default settings are different, I think? === adder_ is now known as barracuda [02:47] ok thank you [02:48] hello! I build a mining rig with ubuntu server but I'm having trouble with ports because in the place the server is hosted the ISP blocks ports 3333, 5555 that are used by mining app (xmr-stak). Then I set a openvpn connection where client is the server and host is my office router (linksys wrt ac1200), and the connection looks like works but I can't route any traffic through that openvpn connection. [02:49] How I can route it with UFW? I already tried some articles on web but no luck :\ [02:49] theorem: AMD drivers are in the kernel now . What release are you running ? [02:51] teward. im using the icon. in the terminal it says :permission denied === gerald is now known as Guest31381 === John is now known as Guest73981 [02:56] hi. i need software to copy and paste various texts [02:57] like when i type something, i need 3 or more links to be in buffer so i can just paste them in th text im currently woking right now === machine01 is now known as machine_guy [03:00] so far i designed for myself this solution: it should be a drop-down list, like a panel in the corners with icons. so, when i click the icon, it loads my buffer with icon-related link [03:00] or hotkeys on keyboard [03:01] the question is: how to make this kind of an app/plugin or if there already exist something like this [03:02] Hello everyone! [03:03] Has anyone here set up Cisco vWLC on Ubuntu before? [03:03] good_cookies: clipman/clipit etc... === bcowan_ is now known as bcowan === mjrosenb_ is now known as mjrosenb [04:32] Did I get owned? [04:32] 10 minutes ago: https://pastebin.com/VQ8GAtkj [04:32] now : https://pastebin.com/nFXAhw0M [04:33] Freaking tor? [04:33] explodes, what Ubuntu release are you running, and why do you believe you may have been 'owned'? [04:33] Ah, you didn't install tor? [04:33] Nope. [04:34] Wasn't running tor less than an hour- literally just happened... [04:34] explodes, what Ubuntu release? [04:35] nginx is gone too [04:35] I have spent the last fucking week setting this up [04:35] 17.04 [04:35] I have been pwned... [04:36] explodes, do you have ssh exposed to the internet, or any other obvious method of compromise? Also, just double check that you're not ssh'd somewhere? lol [04:37] I am so stupid [04:37] I'm ok [04:37] I rebooted [04:37] Wrong machine? [04:38] yes. [04:38] i thought I reconnected [04:38] i'm relieved and ashamed all at the same time [04:38] lol. For the record, every few days someone comes in asking if they've been rooted, and the answer has always been 'no' in my experience [04:38] Scarier thought: actual compromises don't advertise themselves [04:39] yea. it did happen once on digital ocean, though. DO said "sorry, we wiped your machine" [04:41] explodes, you may find it useful to change the color of the prompt on different machines [04:41] i was just thinking that omg [04:41] This doesn't explain why nginx isn't starting anymore tho [04:42] googling it, but: Failed to start nginx.service: Unit nginx.service is masked. [04:59] Are sysctl settings for the most part non-configurable from within the context of a LXD/LXC container? [05:02] Ok. I signed up for this free thing a year ago and they gave me a mini pc for free (I think they were doing sketchy stuff some sort of russian clickfarm stuff) Idk I got my 50 bux and disconnected the thing. Anywase they gave me this mini PC. It's a stripped down version of a MK902II. I called and asked for the password the guy was pretty sketch which I was expecting and said he didnt know and hung up. So... I want to use the thing not throw it away [05:02] so what are my options [05:03] It has 1 USB,1 HDMI, 1 Power in and 1 eithernet thats it. It looks like more could be sodered on (for a future project) [05:04] It's running ubuntu 14.1 utopic [05:04] I can only log in on guest [05:05] Heres a picture of the mini pc [05:05] https://i.imgur.com/QWy8TWW.jpg [05:06] I was just going to try and use it for IRC/Discord channels that I am an admin of [05:07] ChronDon88: boot into recovery mode then passwd root [05:07] ChronDon88: google something like ubuntu recovery mode change root password [05:07] I have tryed this It seems to not go into recovery mode [05:08] I hold shift and it just boots normaly [05:08] Could I log on guest and download a .c file of a root exploit (seeing how this is an older version of ubuntu) would that work? [05:08] like "rooting" an android device [05:10] If that's the case I'd go for a re-install since you don't know what could be on there. [05:10] I also have to switch between a mouse and keyboard because I do not have a dongal with mouse and keyboard so i either use the mouse or keyboard lol [05:10] I kinda want to know what sketchy stuff they were up too... I mean they did abandan it for over 8 months and I called today and the guy wanted nothing to do with me. [05:11] (probably closer to 6 months) [05:11] I did find some stuff pointing to a russian click farm? [05:12] May I pm you rfleming? [05:13] ChronDon88: I'm not much of a recovery expert... [05:13] I don't know more than to Google :) [05:13] is this a rooting thing like an android root? [05:13] https://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/42276/ [05:14] If I just ran that would it do anything? [05:14] I'm a linux/ubuntu nub [05:18] can anyone help me getting back the grub in dual boot [05:20] I've dual booted it with windows and tried many things with other friend [05:20] but its not working at all [05:20] I've a HP laptop [05:20] and when I option boot options and select going to Ubuntu the grub shows up [05:21] but on normal startup grub doesn't show up and laptop directly boots into windows [05:22] in the bios you need to select whatever disk you installed grub/ubuntu on as the first boot device [05:22] I don't see such option in Bios [05:23] the UEFI boot order shows the "Notebook hard drive" at the top of the list [05:24] Tapuboy_ubuntu, doesn't sound like grub was installed on the boot partition. [05:25] is the only way to get into recovery mode by taping shift? [05:25] well I took instructions from someone, and it actually did installed in the boot partition but I'm not that much intelligent you are right though! please suggest something [05:25] or holding shift while rebooting? [05:25] no not even by shit [05:26] shift* [05:26] I can get into it by pausing the start up and then pressing F9 for boot options [05:27] Tapuboy_ubuntu, if you can get to grub manually that means it's installed, if you cant automatically that meants the wrong disk is selected for bootup OR you didn't install grub to the primary disk boot partition. [05:27] how do you pause? [05:27] and boot options shows all 3 options http://ibb.co/dMH9Bb see this i posted the image [05:28] oh ok ok while installing Ubuntu 16.04 I've made /boot, /, /home, and swap [05:28] I pause with keep hitting ESC button just when I power up the machine [05:30] so I press f9 and I get ubuntu 14.1 and 4 dots then it boots normaly [05:30] so f9 pauses it? [05:31] yes F9 does but it opens the boot options menu as shown in this image http://ibb.co/dMH9Bb [05:32] I dont get that [05:32] ChoronDon88 uhOh okay [05:32] I get ubuntu 14.1 and then 4 dots then it boots normaly [05:32] but the f9 does something [05:33] like pauses it [05:33] enko what do you recommend [05:33] chrondon88 yes it does [05:33] dv`_, what do you recommend? [05:35] Tapuboy_ubuntu, reinstall grub to the correct partition? [05:35] how do I do that? do you recommend grub_repair_tool [05:40] WOW you need to be connect to the internet to get this menu? [05:41] no, but you do need to be connected to the internet to reinstall it. [05:42] for some reason I can not get into recovery mode [05:43] i need some help about docker. i am running in locahost and how to pull debian image in docker? [05:53] what is rooting called in ubuntu [05:53] escalated privilege [05:54] how do I open a terminal [05:56] cloud [06:13] https://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/36820/' [06:13] how can I make that work [06:14] !topic | ChronDon88 [06:14] ChronDon88: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic [06:15] so 14.1 is not official? [06:24] what does a .c file do? [06:24] is it like a windows .exe? [06:25] ChronDon88: no, it's more like a .txt. the source code itself, not the executable [06:26] a file extension by itself doesnt really say anything either, but .c is usually source indeed [06:26] how do I make a .c like an .exe file [06:26] ChronDon88: the file extensions isnt that important in Linux, unlike Windows. try the "file" command to check what it is or just open it with a text editor [06:26] ChronDon88: compile it with gcc or whatever you like [06:26] ChronDon88: using a compiler, gcc [06:26] !compile | ChronDon88 [06:26] ChronDon88: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall [06:27] !packages [06:27] You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !KPackageKit, !Muon, "apt-cache search ", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 30000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways! [06:27] !checkinstall [06:27] checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running! [06:28] I cant use sudo becaues I don't have root accuse to this computer [06:28] I'm trying to get root [06:28] without the password and I can not boot into recovery for some reason === Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner [06:40] >coins [06:40] >bet 500 [06:44] Hi.. Please help me with Reverse tethering? Executing this commands, in simple noob language [06:44] https://medium.com/genymobile/gnirehtet-reverse-tethering-android-2afacdbdaec7 [06:44] https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/71ks57/gnirehtet_a_reverse_tethering_tool_for_android/ [07:24] how to do install something on ubuntu [07:25] !software [07:25] A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents [07:25] I need to go to bed [07:26] Im in way over my head right now [07:26] Trying to root a OS ive never even played with [07:26] I have like 50 tabs open :( [07:27] I did find the .image file for ubuntu tho that only took a few hours [07:27] to get root, use "su" [07:27] I dont have the password its locked [07:27] and no I didnt steal it [07:27] boot into single user mode, mount disk, edit /etc/shadow to set new pass, reboot [07:28] For some reason I cant boot into recovery or single user [07:28] I even tryed f9 and shift [07:28] ese f9 shift [07:28] it just boots [07:29] ChronDon88: you could use any "Live CD" to boot from as well [07:29] Knoppix or something [07:29] its a micro PC [07:30] this is what im working with [07:30] https://i.imgur.com/QWy8TWW.jpg [07:30] ok, then boot from a USB flash drive i suppose [07:30] it doesnt get any more bare bones than that [07:30] I have to switch back and forth between mouse and keyboard atm lol [07:31] why not a real computer ?:) [07:31] I do have some usb female peaces coming from china hopefully will be here in a month to add on some USBS [07:31] whatever it used to boot Ubuntu when it was installed.. should be able to boot a live image [07:32] I got it for free from doing a idk what it was I guess they monitored the traffic of the network I had it connected to for a month and gave me 50 bux and left the box here [07:32] I opened the box up to find a mini pc and my eyeballs opened wider and wider [07:32] I wanted to use the thing [07:32] I asked them for the password but they are sketch and hung up [07:33] the company is called digital reflections [07:33] you can probably get one too [07:33] the contract says nothing about returning the device and they dont ask you too after you stop [07:33] They just let you keep it [07:33] ChronDon88: does it actually show up a PC-like BIOS when you power it up? [07:34] It runs a bunch of command lines when it boots [07:34] If i press f9 it says ubuntu 14.1 and 4 dots below that and then boots [07:34] I guess its a bearbones version of mk902ii [07:35] which is basicly an android/linux mini PC you can get for like 100 bux [07:35] Im guessing this one is around 80 dollers because its missing half the stuff [07:36] I just wanted it to run kodi and IRC/Discord for the channles I am an admin in on my TV on the wall [07:36] Thought it would be cool but it is turning into a super project [07:36] wonder what it boots from [07:36] I've never used ubuntu or linux so this is all new to me === nicolo is now known as Guest79250 [07:37] ChronDon88: https://www.reddit.com/r/SwagBucks/comments/4l86cj/digital_reflections_android_box/ [07:37] ChronDon88: in the bottom left corner of your pic, is that actually a chip ? [07:37] hard to seee if it's a BGA flash chip, or just nothing there [07:37] "To anyone still wanting to re-flash the boxes, first download the new tool here. Unzip the batchtool folder and run the RKBatchTool application. Then, go here and download the most recent firmware image (as of November 2016, it's MK902II_5.1_160722). Load the image in the RKBatchTool and hold down the reset button on your box for a few seconds until the tool finds it (you'll need a small pin to reach the [07:37] button. It's on the left side of the box). Then click "Upgrade" on the tool." [07:38] HOLY S*HT you found it! [07:38] oh cool [07:38] the origional IMAGE! [07:38] with WORKING LINK! [07:39] -_- I've been searching reddit and the interent for like 2=3 hours for that [07:39] All the links I tried were dead [07:39] So weird that that link works [07:40] i searched for "digital reflections hardware root password" hoping that i would just find the default password :p [07:40] jeez [07:40] they're actually fairly decent [07:40] https://www.cloudsto.com/store/linux-mini-pc-s/rkm-mk902ii-le/mk902ii-le-linux-edition-quad-core-a17-ubuntu-linux-mini-pc-16gb-flash-storage-detail.html [07:41] Yea but you can get a stripped down version for free [07:41] the company is super sketchy [07:42] after I looked at the files on these thing (most of them are root protected) I found some stuff about some russian click farms [07:42] awe the file apperently doesnt work on this version [07:45] even tho it says they are not excepting people sign up and get ur free pc! [07:47] I really do want to see what they were trying to do [07:48] ChronDon88: it's weird, looking at your board pic it looks like it's mostly just the sockets and LEDs that aren't populated [07:48] adobe flash player install does not seem to work [07:48] ChronDon88: like I reckon you could fit the missing micro SD card socket [07:48] gordonjcp you are correct [07:48] the passives around it seem to be present [07:48] I ordered some board USB female connecters from china [07:48] going to populate the board myself [07:49] they are on sale for 80 cents a peace :D [07:49] ChronDon88: can't argue with the price [07:49] You mean free? [07:49] ChronDon88: no, 80 cents for the sockets [07:49] I wouldnt trust the company digital reflections [07:50] ChronDon88: I was going to say, you could try just soldering flying leads onto a USB device and sticking it down but for pennies you may as well buy the proper sockets [07:50] I basicly shut down my home network for 2 months to get some free cash [07:50] so I guess it wasnt "free" [07:50] Only problem is its going to take a month or 2 but screw it [07:51] I got the software to reflash it I just need a male 2 male usb cord [07:51] I tryed to make one but yea..... [07:51] male to male USB? [07:51] not sure how that would work [07:52] unless they're doing something evil like using a USB A connector where they should have a B connector [07:52] or some really really crazy-ass implementation of OTG [07:53] No to flash it because I dont have root [07:53] I can only use guest [07:53] which is a no go right now [07:53] having a PC on the network I dont have control over is a no no [07:54] hah [07:54] better hope you don't have any recent Intel kit then [07:54] ChronDon88: right, good luck with it [07:54] I need the male to male to flash it [07:54] hello [07:54] * gordonjcp -> off to work [07:54] friends [07:54] peppermint vs linux mint [07:54] I got the chinese software to flash it [07:54] peppermint vs linux mint [07:55] I like mints better [07:55] mint [07:55] your linux os is [07:55] radix_, your choice. note however: both are offtopic here [07:56] ok [07:56] i search stable linux distro [07:56] help [07:56] stable in what sense? [07:56] radix_, ask ##linux [07:57] radix_, or use an ubuntu LTS release; currently 16.04 [07:57] better then mint [08:51] 1 [08:55] hi === jstein_ is now known as jstein [09:21] i just download image for vbox [09:22] how do i play it? if anyone can help please [09:22] play it? huh? [09:22] what OS are you using? [09:22] ubuntu 16.4 [09:23] then you want to INSTALL. and you should have .deb file - not an "image" [09:23] thanks, i will do that [09:23] double click on the .deb and it should launch the installer [09:24] thank you [09:25] happy2help! === alchemistsw1 is now known as alchemistswl === RYDeNPF is now known as RYDeN [09:56] hey all [09:57] My battery is giving me issues.. I did a acpi -v and the output is Battery 0: Charging, 0%, until charged [09:57] Battery 0: design capacity 6910 mAh, last full capacity 0 mAh = 0% [09:58] StormWarrior is this new behavior? [09:58] dualbooting? does it charge on windows? [09:58] It didnt charge on windows [09:58] then not a software issue. [09:58] The battery is stuck at 0% [09:58] hmm [09:58] just wanted to confirm [09:58] :/ [09:58] your charger has likely failed [09:59] they do that [09:59] well my laptop is running fine on AC power [09:59] then the battery is suspect [09:59] thought so [09:59] you wanna know the weird part? [09:59] they also fail. hopefully easily replaced and not hardwired in. [10:00] in the gui(settings > power), it shows that battery is taking voltage [10:00] taking voltage != keeping a charge. [10:00] like right nom the battery power is 3.2 Wh.. but percentage is 0 [10:00] StormWarrior: does the battery heat up while connected? [10:01] nope [10:01] the battery is cool [10:01] should be warm if it's actively charging [10:01] thats weird... usually my batteries that where broken were quite hot... [10:01] ik [10:02] broken batteries should be hot(unless the charging power is broken) [10:02] but charging port is fine since battery is taking a voltage of 12.5V === TJ_Remix is now known as TJ- [10:02] can you replace the battery? [10:02] I can [10:02] But I wanna know wtf is wrong first [10:03] how new/old is this machine. [10:03] StormWarrior: but if you remove ac the laptop shuts down/turns of immediately? [10:03] the machine is about 5 years old.. so is the battery [10:03] enaut: indeed!!! [10:03] StormWarrior, if you got 5 years of life out of a laptop, you are doing good! retire that poor battery and replace it! [10:04] Look.. full disclosure.. 5 years ago, I was an idiot.. didnt know squat about tech and batteries and how I should maintain a battery [10:04] cfhowlett: its thinkpad :/ [10:04] you could take a voltmeter and measure the pins... never did anything like that before though [10:04] enaut: I have done exactly that with my cellphone [10:04] enaut: but as I said, the battery is taking volgae of 12.5V [10:04] voltage* [10:04] What does this have to do with Ubuntu? [10:04] Younder: I am using ubuntu [10:05] I believe a dead battery will "take" the voltage, it just won't store the voltage. [10:05] Younder: and I want to troubleshoot this on ubuntu [10:05] cfhowlett: could be the case [10:05] But this is a hardware issue we can't help you with.. [10:05] I think I may have messed up the drivers.. in windows.. [10:06] Younder: I just want to confirm that this is a hardware issue.. [10:06] windows drivers would have no effect on the ubuntu side [10:06] Ok, it is. [10:06] StormWarrior: if the battery has output but your laptop shows nothing then I rather suspect the connection Battery/Laptop to be broken... [10:06] StormWarrior: you still uses Windows on that PC? There were a lot of known issues with Lenovo Thinkpad battery charging around 2013 ... 5 years ago :) [10:06] TJ-: yes I did use windows and I used it like an idiot [10:07] enaut: but how is the system correctly(I hope so) gauging the energy and voltage as well as rate of charge of the battery? [10:07] StormWarrior: if you still have Windows, apparently one possible solution is to go into Energy Management, Battery, and choose "Maximum Battery Life" and *sometimes* that causes the battery to charge once more [10:08] TJ-: I will try that.. thanks [10:08] StormWarrior, I presume instant off if you uplug the AC? [10:08] cfhowlett: indeed! [10:08] wait guys.. I will post a jpeg link [10:08] bear with me [10:08] StormWarrior: which model Thinkpad is it? [10:09] StormWarrior: another possibility: "I have a Thinkpad P50 with Window 10 Pro. I had this problem and after much frustration found that if the computer gets put in Airplane mode, it changes the power settings to one that will not charge the laptop." [10:09]