[07:45] <metathink> Hi
[07:46] <metathink> What am I suppose to install to be able to create a VPN connection using the network gui?
[07:47] <hateball> metathink: what type of VPN?
[07:48] <metathink> OpenVPN
[07:48] <hateball> metathink: think you may need network-manager-openvpn-gnome then
[07:51] <metathink> Thank you
[13:04] <jk^> hi all
[13:04] <jk^> how to unmount a drive? i try to "right click on drive" but it doesn't appear "Unmount"
[13:17] <hateball> jk^: it wont umount if you have things open, like a file or a terminal inside a directory etc etc on whatever is mounted
[13:24] <jk^> hateball,
[13:25] <jk^> my usb drive has not open
[13:25] <jk^> it hasn't anything opened
[13:25] <jk^> but by right click on its icon on the desktop, in the context menu that appears, there isn't a command to unmount
[13:26] <hateball> hmmm
[13:26] <jk^> and even for trash, there isn't a icon to delete by one-click all its content
[13:28] <hateball> I dont have an LXDE system handy atm to check myself I'm afraid
[14:41] <Thedarkb> Oh, turns out my CPU has PAE but doesn't report it to the OS.
[14:42] <Thedarkb> For some reason.
[14:45] <leszek> yeah you need fake pae then
[14:49] <Thedarkb> How do I do that?
[14:49] <Thedarkb> hang on.
[15:23] <Thedarkb> Yeah, forcepae did the job.
[15:25] <Thedarkb> Only complaint is that it's using half of my RAM idle.
[15:26] <Thedarkb> If I were to apt-get remove gvfs, would everything break?
[15:26] <Thedarkb> I'm trimming the fat so to speak.
[15:28] <teward> Thedarkb: probably.  You wouldn't be able to mount drives, etc. anymore
[15:28] <Thedarkb> Not even with mount?
[15:28] <Thedarkb> My last distro didn't have it.
[15:29] <teward> "your last distro"?
[15:29] <Thedarkb> TinyCore
[15:29] <Thedarkb> I switched back to Lubuntu due to stability issues.
[15:29] <teward> @Thedarkb: i presume you want to plug in a USB drive and *not* have to use superuser to mount the drive every time?
[15:29] <Thedarkb> I don't really care honestly.
[15:30] <teward> if the answer to that is "Yes I don't want to have to do `sudo mount ...` every time I connect an external drive, then you can't remove gvfs.
[15:30] <Thedarkb> I wrote a script to do it for me.
[15:30] <teward> but you can remove gvfs if you WANT to, I just don't recommend it.
[15:30] <teward> there's very little 'fat' in the Lubuntu distro
[15:30] <Thedarkb> I have 256mb RAM.
[15:30] <teward> or rather it's default packagesets.  At least, in my opinion
[15:30] <teward> then you should run a headless Linux.
[15:30] <Thedarkb> 101 is used with nothing open.
[15:30] <teward> 256MB RAM is going to give you issues with *any* GUI
[15:31] <Thedarkb> It was fine with IceWM
[15:31] <Thedarkb> Which I'm installing now.
[15:34] <Thedarkb> I like IceWM.
[15:34] <Thedarkb> It comes with themes out of the box to make it look like OS/2 or Windows 95.
[15:34] <Thedarkb> Hmm.... seems like it's only in the 64 bit repo.
[15:35] <jk^> help https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LFN9EEr01Ssx6_RpxiTdDemL_JqeI8re
[15:35] <Thedarkb> I'll just download it elsewhere.
[15:59] <Thedarkb> Yeah, with IceWM I have it down to where I want it.
[15:59] <Thedarkb> 76mb used is alright
[16:06] <ChunkzZ> Thedarkb, just get a new system, 256mb is not usable for lubuntu. :P
[16:06] <Thedarkb> With IceWM it is.
[16:06] <teward> that's not his point :P
[16:06] <Thedarkb> I'm going to put more RAM in it eventually.
[16:06] <Thedarkb> It's DDR
[16:08] <Thedarkb> The 256 is just what's soldered onto the mobo.
[16:09] <ChunkzZ> again, 256mb... you need a new system. :)
[16:09] <teward> Thedarkb: any *particular* reason you're so attached to such an ancient board/system?
[16:09] <teward> because DDR is obsolete.
[16:10] <Thedarkb> It's an X40 ThinkPad.
[16:10] <Thedarkb> They don't make 4:3 laptops anymore.
[16:10] <Thedarkb> plus I like it's size.
[16:10] <Thedarkb> It's smaller than an X200 but it feels big thanks to it's screen.
[16:10] <Thedarkb> I have an X200 too.
[16:54] <Thedarkb-X40> Is there a tool for making custom Ubuntu remixes?
[16:55] <Thedarkb-X40> I like what I have going here.
[16:56] <Thedarkb-X40> IceWM+idesk running HexChat and with 3 tabs open in seamonkey is only using 130mb RAM.
[17:04] <Thedarkb-X40> Oh yeah, the Lubuntu installer murdered my FreeDOS installation.
[17:20] <Thedarkb-X40> FreeDOS is where it should be on the disk.
[17:20] <Thedarkb-X40> GRUB just won't boot it.
[17:23] <wxl> you can try a GRUB repair
[17:23] <wxl> fwiw "the Lubuntu installer" is nothing more than the installer that all of Ubuntu uses
[17:23] <wxl> assuming it's the Desktop version. that's ubiquity
[17:23] <wxl> in the event you have the Alternate version, it's debian-installer, which is only used by Server in the Ubuntu world but is, obviously, used all over Debian
[17:27] <Thedarkb-X40> I know, I recognized it from when I installed debian on my server.
[17:27] <Thedarkb-X40> Can I run GRUB repair from the desktop.
[17:28] <Thedarkb-X40> *?
[17:28] <wxl> well you can run it in terminal so you can run in desktop :)
[17:28] <Thedarkb-X40> That's what I meant.
[17:29] <Thedarkb-X40> wxl, What command am I looking for? grub-repair isn't listed.
[17:29] <wxl> like honestly update-grub might do it alone
[17:30] <Thedarkb-X40> Hey, update-grub found FreeDOS on /dev/sda1
[17:30] <Thedarkb-X40> I'll reboot and report back.
[17:33] <Thedarkb-X40> wxl, That didn't work.
[17:33] <Thedarkb-X40> How to I run grub-repair, it's not listed in the tab completions.
[17:34] <Thedarkb-X40> Boot-repair?
[17:39] <wxl> dumb question, Thedarkb-X40: is your machine UEFI capable? and if so, did you use it to boot the ISO?
[17:39] <Thedarkb-X40> My machine was made in 2005.... so no.
[17:40] <Thedarkb-X40> I just booted the ISO off of a flash drive and installed it.
[17:40] <Thedarkb-X40> I then switched to IceWM because LXDE was a bit too RAM hungry.
[17:41] <wxl> EFI existed before 2005 (that's when Intel quit working on their own thing and started working on the United EFI)
[17:41] <wxl> so again, are you sure?
[17:41] <Thedarkb-X40> Yeah, there's no EFI.
[17:41] <Thedarkb-X40> 100%
[17:41] <wxl> cuz that would make some things really unhappy
[17:42] <Thedarkb-X40> No EFI here.
[17:42] <wxl> anyways boot-repair is a thing, but an unsupported thing
[17:42] <wxl> so you're on your own on that one
[17:43] <wxl> otherwise you have https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[17:43] <Thedarkb-X40> Yeah, it looks kind of sketchy to me.
[17:43] <Thedarkb-X40> I hate fiddling with GRUB.
[17:43] <Thedarkb-X40> I always break it.
[17:43] <Thedarkb-X40> Every. Single. Time.
[17:43] <wxl> usually avoiding dual booting helps XD
[17:44] <Thedarkb-X40> I do for my main machine.
[17:44] <wxl> does the FreeDOS even show in the GRUB menu?
[17:44] <Thedarkb-X40> It shows in the GRUB menu but it leaves me at a blank screen with a blinking cursor.
[17:44] <wxl> maybe try reinstalling freedos
[17:45] <Thedarkb-X40> How do I do that without breaking my Lubuntu install?
[17:45] <Thedarkb-X40> All the system files are still there.
[17:46] <wxl> ask FreeDOS?
[17:46]  * Thedarkb-X40 joins #freedos
[18:05] <Thedarkb-X40> wxl, It's worth noting that GRUB is supposed to chainload FreeDOS
[18:19] <wxl> well here's one thing i'll suggest if you don't get anywhere with FreeDOS, Thedarkb-X40: join #ubuntu and ask there. this is a general GRUB issue, if anything. not Lubuntu-specific. you'll get more people listening in there.
[18:21] <Thedarkb-X40> I'll ask in GRUB
[18:21] <wxl> i'm not sure i'd suggest that
[18:21] <wxl> generally upstream projects will only support current releases and most likely we're behind
[18:21] <wxl> we usually are
[18:21] <wxl> debian more so
[18:24] <Thedarkb-X40> Oh.
[18:27] <viju> Where is the GUI for setting up proxy in Lubuntu 16.04
[18:27] <viju> ?
[18:27] <Thedarkb-X40> Sorry, got dropped.
[18:27] <wxl> NetworkManager should be able to do that for you, viju
[18:28] <viju> I tried looking there but I am unaware where to make changes.
[18:30] <viju> Opened network connection for the router I am connected to. It has 5 tabs - general, wi-fi, wi-fi security, ipv4 settings and ipv6 settings.
[18:30] <viju> Am I looking at wrong place?
[18:35] <wxl> oh nevermind it doesn't handle proxies. hold on
[18:39] <wxl> viju: looks like you need to edit /etc/environment https://askubuntu.com/questions/175172/how-do-i-configure-proxies-without-gui
[18:42] <viju> wxl: one more; for those proxy I need to supply credentials as well.
[18:43] <wxl> viju: i think the second answer discusses dealing with that, no?
[18:43] <wxl> viju: one problem is i don't use a proxy so i can't help too much.
[18:43] <viju> Oka I got it.
[19:57] <RandomGuyOnIrc> How do I take a screenshot? prntscreen doesn 't work
[19:58] <Thedarkb-X40> Print Screen doesn't work the same way as it does in Windows.
[19:58] <Thedarkb-X40> It puts the image in your home directory.
[19:59] <RandomGuyOnIrc> OK I see now
[19:59] <RandomGuyOnIrc> it asctually was working
[19:59] <RandomGuyOnIrc> but it is quiet
[19:59] <Thedarkb-X40> There's no sound
[19:59] <RandomGuyOnIrc> and doesn't make a popup or anything
[19:59] <RandomGuyOnIrc> I see the files now that I look
[19:59] <RandomGuyOnIrc> thanks
[19:59] <Thedarkb-X40> It really could be better implemented.
[20:00] <RandomGuyOnIrc> :)
[20:00] <RandomGuyOnIrc> well IRC, lets people learn the magic
[20:01] <krytarik> Well, that's 'scrot' for you. :P
[20:29] <ChunkzZ> or you can use gnome-screenshot, I believe that has sound iirc
[20:35] <Thedarkb-X40> scrot isn't working on my machine.
[20:35] <Thedarkb-X40> Might be my window manager.
[20:37] <Thedarkb-X40> I think I'll switch to my X200.
[20:51] <ChunkzZ> Thedarkb, why are you using an old system? I paid £30 and have a system with 2gb ram... lol makes no sense.... :P
[20:51] <ChunkzZ> upgrade!
[20:51] <Thedarkb> Mine was €5
[20:51] <Thedarkb> and I have a decent system too.
[20:51] <Thedarkb> Well, an X200.
[20:56] <ChunkzZ> yeah but it's not really usable for you, no?
[20:56] <ChunkzZ> never heard of ice-wm
[21:48] <Thedarkb> ChunkzZ, It's perfectly usable.
[21:48] <Thedarkb> IceWM is a nice window manager.
[21:48] <Thedarkb> It's not very well supported by distros though.
[21:50] <Thedarkb> I can run IRC, I can play Quake, what more can a man want?
[21:52] <dax> pizza
[22:50] <RandomGuyOnIrc> How do I eject a usb stick in lubuntu?
[22:56] <Thedarkb> RandomGuyOnIrc, Right click on it in PCManFM.
[23:01] <RandomGuyOnIrc> thanks