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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debian-installer (artful-proposed/main) [20101020ubuntu523 => 20101020ubuntu523.1] (core)01:44
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debian-installer [source] (artful-proposed) [20101020ubuntu523.1]01:45
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slangasektsimonq2: the issue is that generate-freeze-block (from lp:ubuntu-archive-tools) will freeze all packages included in an image for a flavor that's participating in a milestone, including base packages that are shared between flavors.  If generate-freeze-block were patched to not block packages which aren't flavor-specific, opt-in milestones would be much less of a problem for those who have06:23
slangasekopted out06:23
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Laneyslangasek: generate-freeze-block -u09:05
Laneytsimonq2: ^-09:06
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (trusty-proposed/universe) [2.29.4.2~14.04 => 2.30~14.04] (no packageset)09:13
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (artful-proposed/main) [2.29.4.2+17.10 => 2.30+17.10] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)09:14
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.29.4.2 => 2.30] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)09:18
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: initramfs-tools (artful-proposed/main) [0.125ubuntu12 => 0.125ubuntu12.1] (core)09:25
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: initramfs-tools (zesty-proposed/main) [0.125ubuntu9 => 0.125ubuntu9.1] (core)09:26
tewardRelease Team: regarding 17.04, is there a firm EOL date for it?  I didn't see an announcement yet, but I thought I'd ask.  Since relevant to a major thing right now over on Ask Ubuntu14:28
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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (artful-proposed) [0.125ubuntu12.1]16:27
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.122ubuntu8.11]16:28
slangasekLaney: oh? that option has been there the whole time?16:48
Laneyslangasek: I don't think it was there right at the start, but for quite sime time, yes16:51
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (xenial-proposed/main) [0.28ubuntu0.6 => 0.28ubuntu0.7] (core)17:11
tsimonq2slangasek: So we're good now? :)17:27
slangasektsimonq2: provided that option DTRT and we're all agreed that this is the right way to manage opt-in milestones, yes17:27
slangasek(I still think the actual milestone mechanics are just overhead, but individual flavors can still make that call)17:28
tsimonq2slangasek: You're more than welcome to test it on Lubuntu if you wish :)17:28
tsimonq2I'll be more than happy to provide patches if it doesn't.17:29
LaneyYou'll probably find that not as many packages are 'unique' as you might want17:30
tsimonq2How so?17:31
LaneyTry the command and see17:31
tsimonq2slangasek: Speaking of patches... I'll fix some stuff on that MP a bit later, but where you left the comment of "Why?" I'd like to point to new line 46, which is what I think it is.17:32
tsimonq2I'm not a Bazaar user unless needed for simple stuff, so thanks for correcting me on those parts :)17:34
tsimonq2Laney: Alright. Is this in ubuntu-archive-tools?17:34
LaneyYa17:34
tsimonq2ack17:35
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected distro-info-data [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.28ubuntu0.7]17:36
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (xenial-proposed/main) [0.28ubuntu0.6 => 0.28ubuntu0.7] (core)17:37
tsimonq2O_o17:41
tsimonq2You're right Laney17:41
tsimonq2This doesn't even have lubuntu-meta...17:41
tsimonq2I'll play with it later and propose an MP when I'm done :)17:42
Laneytsimonq2: Right, try seeded-in-ubuntu on a missing pkg and you'll see it's seeded somewhere else17:42
Laneyin this case lubuntu-next17:42
tsimonq2I wonder if I can figure out logic to override it if the shared seed comes from the same place..17:43
Laneyjust pretend lubuntu-next is participating and add that to the commandline imo17:44
tsimonq2I just look at it from the perspective of extendability should any other flavor decide to do the same thing as us in the future.17:47
tsimonq2(i.e. Kubuntu once Plasma 6 is a reality)17:48
tsimonq2(extendability might not be the right word, but meh)17:49
tsimonq2Thanks for the info Laney17:50
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.28ubuntu0.7]18:03
LocutusOfBorghello infinity time to merge glibc from debian? :)18:38
tewardis infinity even around?  RUmor is he's not here right now :p18:41
LocutusOfBorginfinity, ^^ (I remember now that you highlight only with first word mentioning you)18:42
LocutusOfBorgin case you are not around, have fun! :) (I don't even know if a merge is useful or not)18:42
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-applets (artful-proposed/universe) [3.26.0-1 => 3.26.0-1ubuntu0.1] (desktop-extra, edubuntu)19:03
slangasekfor the non-bios-mangling respin of 17.10: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/385/builds20:57
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.1) has been added21:22
flocculantslangasek: I assume flavours will show up on there at some point in the future?21:29
tsimonq2^21:30
slangasekyes21:30
flocculantslangasek: cheers21:30
tsimonq2Niiice, many thanks to all who helped in that :)21:31
slangasekthere is some misconfiguration I don't understand that's preventing them from auto-posting ("TypeError: Only active milestones are accepted"), but I'll manually post them21:31
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.2) has been added21:32
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.2) has been added21:32
slangasekok, found the configuration issue, future builds hopefully post automatically21:33
flocculantok - thanks21:33
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added21:34
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop i386 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added21:34
acheronukdo we have a proposed release date for these?21:41
slangasekacheronuk: I was going to propose next Thursday; opinion?21:45
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.1) has been added21:46
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server i386 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.1) has been added21:46
jbichawill you be respinning artful after the initial spectre fixes are published?21:47
slangasekno21:47
flocculantslangasek: I'm assuming that all we're needing to do is check install works for this - and if someone can do so with affected machines all the better?21:48
slangasekthe objective of the respin is to fix the media so it stops breaking people's BIOS on boot; we don't respin media for security bugs generally, even one as nasty as meltdown/spectre21:48
slangasekflocculant: we should be looking for the usual set of release image test cases.  No need to test on affected machines, we're 99.783% sure that not compiling in the spi driver into the kernel at all will prevent that driver from breaking your bios21:49
jbichaok, I was only asking because of the schedule question :)21:49
slangasekjbicha: so, the archive freeze due to spectre actually makes it more convenient to do the image builds now because I don't have to worry about cross-image skew in -updates; it would also be nice to have 17.10 images available again since 17.04 is due to EOL shortly21:50
cjwatsonsecurity update publication to -updates is still possible FWIW21:52
slangasekcjwatson: yes, but less likely, which still works out in my favor21:54
slangasekanyway, noted, thanks :)21:54
tsimonq2slangasek, cjwatson: Someone should disable the daily Bionic and Xenial ISO builds while the build farm is down so that we don't have to deal with the emails about it failing...21:56
tsimonq2Well, the live builds, Lubuntu Alternates *seem* to be succeeding for Bionic21:57
flocculanttsimonq2: I grabbed that yesterday to check a testcase mp - was current date at least21:58
tsimonq2flocculant: That's interesting, because iso.qa.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to be up-to-date for Lubuntu and I keep getting the failure emails...21:58
slangasektsimonq2: if I disable them, someone then has to enable them again by hand in order for them to restart.  I was just going to leave them failing so that's one less manual thing to do when we're back on our feet21:58
flocculanttsimonq2: alternate I'm talking about21:58
tsimonq2slangasek: Oh, that's fair, got it.21:59
cjwatsonI share slangasek's take21:59
acheronukslangasek: Thursday seems reasonable to me21:59
tsimonq2flocculant: Ohh, was gonna say...21:59
tsimonq2:)21:59
flocculantyou *seemed* unsure ;)22:00
tsimonq2Because I was ;)22:00
tsimonq2Anyways...22:00
tsimonq2Has the archive been frozen in that part of it, or do things just get stuck waiting to build forever?22:00
flocculant:)22:00
tsimonq2:)22:00
cjwatsontsimonq2: the latter22:01
tsimonq2cjwatson: Alright, thanks.22:02
tsimonq2So to get this right, the Artful Dot One images disable the driver, or can they heal broken systems?22:10
slangasekdisable the driver22:17
tsimonq2ack22:20
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added22:30
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added23:34
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD i386 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added23:34
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwupd (artful-proposed/main) [0.9.7-2 => 0.9.7-2ubuntu1] (desktop-core)23:41
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwupd (artful-proposed/main) [0.9.7-2 => 0.9.7-2ubuntu1] (desktop-core)23:49
slangasekUsername for 'https://git.launchpad.net':23:52
slangasek...why23:52
slangasekdid I not deploy the ubuntu-cdimage fixes?23:52
naccslangasek: what prompted that?23:52
slangaseknacc: germinate lubuntu.artful23:52
slangasekno, I have23:53
slangasektsimonq2: ^^ running cron.daily interactively gives me these prompts, on nusakan23:53
slangasekfor lubuntu, specifically23:54
naccslangasek: ah, fyi, if a repo doesn't exist, you get prompted for auth23:55
slangasekmmm23:55
tsimonq2slangasek: ...23:55
naccslangasek: i wonder if that is happening to you? (i was looking in my logs as I hit something similar)23:55
tsimonq2slangasek: What script are you running?23:56
naccslangasek: as lp can't expose the diff. between a private repo and a non-existent repo23:56
slangasektsimonq2: DIST=artful for-project lubuntu cron.daily23:56
tsimonq2slangasek: ack23:56
slangasek* Cloning branch artful of https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+23:57
naccslangasek: if that does end up being the root, we have set GIT_TERMINAL_PROMPT=0 to make it noninteractive in `git ubuntu`23:57
slangasekgit/platform/23:57
slangasekCloning into '/tmp/germinate-rUfVvx/platform.artful'...23:57
slangasekremote: Authorisation required.23:57
slangasekfatal: Authentication failed for 'https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-23:57
slangasekseeds/+git/platform/'23:57
tsimonq2slangasek: Right, and if that doesn't work, germinate should fall back to Bazaar...23:57
slangasektsimonq2: except that git *prompts* when it doesn't work; needs fixing to not prompt23:58
naccslangasek: yeah that repo doesn't exist23:58
naccslangasek: so the above hack will 'fix' your client tool23:58
slangasek(or, needs fixing to not try the non-existent repo)23:58
tsimonq2slangasek: Want code from me?23:58
slangasektsimonq2: yes please ;)23:58
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added23:59
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate i386 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added23:59
tsimonq2slangasek: Sure, no problem, on it :)23:59

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