[01:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debian-installer (artful-proposed/main) [20101020ubuntu523 => 20101020ubuntu523.1] (core) [01:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debian-installer [source] (artful-proposed) [20101020ubuntu523.1] === rbalint_ is now known as rbalint [06:23] tsimonq2: the issue is that generate-freeze-block (from lp:ubuntu-archive-tools) will freeze all packages included in an image for a flavor that's participating in a milestone, including base packages that are shared between flavors. If generate-freeze-block were patched to not block packages which aren't flavor-specific, opt-in milestones would be much less of a problem for those who have [06:23] opted out === maclin1 is now known as maclin [09:05] slangasek: generate-freeze-block -u [09:06] tsimonq2: ^- [09:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (trusty-proposed/universe) [2.29.4.2~14.04 => 2.30~14.04] (no packageset) [09:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (artful-proposed/main) [2.29.4.2+17.10 => 2.30+17.10] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server) [09:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.29.4.2 => 2.30] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server) [09:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: initramfs-tools (artful-proposed/main) [0.125ubuntu12 => 0.125ubuntu12.1] (core) [09:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: initramfs-tools (zesty-proposed/main) [0.125ubuntu9 => 0.125ubuntu9.1] (core) [14:28] Release Team: regarding 17.04, is there a firm EOL date for it? I didn't see an announcement yet, but I thought I'd ask. Since relevant to a major thing right now over on Ask Ubuntu === freyes__ is now known as freyes [16:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (artful-proposed) [0.125ubuntu12.1] [16:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.122ubuntu8.11] [16:48] Laney: oh? that option has been there the whole time? [16:51] slangasek: I don't think it was there right at the start, but for quite sime time, yes [17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (xenial-proposed/main) [0.28ubuntu0.6 => 0.28ubuntu0.7] (core) [17:27] slangasek: So we're good now? :) [17:27] tsimonq2: provided that option DTRT and we're all agreed that this is the right way to manage opt-in milestones, yes [17:28] (I still think the actual milestone mechanics are just overhead, but individual flavors can still make that call) [17:28] slangasek: You're more than welcome to test it on Lubuntu if you wish :) [17:29] I'll be more than happy to provide patches if it doesn't. [17:30] You'll probably find that not as many packages are 'unique' as you might want [17:31] How so? [17:31] Try the command and see [17:32] slangasek: Speaking of patches... I'll fix some stuff on that MP a bit later, but where you left the comment of "Why?" I'd like to point to new line 46, which is what I think it is. [17:34] I'm not a Bazaar user unless needed for simple stuff, so thanks for correcting me on those parts :) [17:34] Laney: Alright. Is this in ubuntu-archive-tools? [17:34] Ya [17:35] ack [17:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected distro-info-data [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.28ubuntu0.7] [17:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (xenial-proposed/main) [0.28ubuntu0.6 => 0.28ubuntu0.7] (core) [17:41] O_o [17:41] You're right Laney [17:41] This doesn't even have lubuntu-meta... [17:42] I'll play with it later and propose an MP when I'm done :) [17:42] tsimonq2: Right, try seeded-in-ubuntu on a missing pkg and you'll see it's seeded somewhere else [17:42] in this case lubuntu-next [17:43] I wonder if I can figure out logic to override it if the shared seed comes from the same place.. [17:44] just pretend lubuntu-next is participating and add that to the commandline imo [17:47] I just look at it from the perspective of extendability should any other flavor decide to do the same thing as us in the future. [17:48] (i.e. Kubuntu once Plasma 6 is a reality) [17:49] (extendability might not be the right word, but meh) [17:50] Thanks for the info Laney [18:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.28ubuntu0.7] [18:38] hello infinity time to merge glibc from debian? :) [18:41] is infinity even around? RUmor is he's not here right now :p [18:42] infinity, ^^ (I remember now that you highlight only with first word mentioning you) [18:42] in case you are not around, have fun! :) (I don't even know if a merge is useful or not) [19:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-applets (artful-proposed/universe) [3.26.0-1 => 3.26.0-1ubuntu0.1] (desktop-extra, edubuntu) [20:57] for the non-bios-mangling respin of 17.10: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/385/builds [21:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.1) has been added [21:29] slangasek: I assume flavours will show up on there at some point in the future? [21:30] ^ [21:30] yes [21:30] slangasek: cheers [21:31] Niiice, many thanks to all who helped in that :) [21:31] there is some misconfiguration I don't understand that's preventing them from auto-posting ("TypeError: Only active milestones are accepted"), but I'll manually post them [21:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.2) has been added [21:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.2) has been added [21:33] ok, found the configuration issue, future builds hopefully post automatically [21:33] ok - thanks [21:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added [21:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop i386 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added [21:41] do we have a proposed release date for these? [21:45] acheronuk: I was going to propose next Thursday; opinion? [21:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.1) has been added [21:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server i386 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.1) has been added [21:47] will you be respinning artful after the initial spectre fixes are published? [21:47] no [21:48] slangasek: I'm assuming that all we're needing to do is check install works for this - and if someone can do so with affected machines all the better? [21:48] the objective of the respin is to fix the media so it stops breaking people's BIOS on boot; we don't respin media for security bugs generally, even one as nasty as meltdown/spectre [21:49] flocculant: we should be looking for the usual set of release image test cases. No need to test on affected machines, we're 99.783% sure that not compiling in the spi driver into the kernel at all will prevent that driver from breaking your bios [21:49] ok, I was only asking because of the schedule question :) [21:50] jbicha: so, the archive freeze due to spectre actually makes it more convenient to do the image builds now because I don't have to worry about cross-image skew in -updates; it would also be nice to have 17.10 images available again since 17.04 is due to EOL shortly [21:52] security update publication to -updates is still possible FWIW [21:54] cjwatson: yes, but less likely, which still works out in my favor [21:54] anyway, noted, thanks :) [21:56] slangasek, cjwatson: Someone should disable the daily Bionic and Xenial ISO builds while the build farm is down so that we don't have to deal with the emails about it failing... [21:57] Well, the live builds, Lubuntu Alternates *seem* to be succeeding for Bionic [21:58] tsimonq2: I grabbed that yesterday to check a testcase mp - was current date at least [21:58] flocculant: That's interesting, because iso.qa.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to be up-to-date for Lubuntu and I keep getting the failure emails... [21:58] tsimonq2: if I disable them, someone then has to enable them again by hand in order for them to restart. I was just going to leave them failing so that's one less manual thing to do when we're back on our feet [21:58] tsimonq2: alternate I'm talking about [21:59] slangasek: Oh, that's fair, got it. [21:59] I share slangasek's take [21:59] slangasek: Thursday seems reasonable to me [21:59] flocculant: Ohh, was gonna say... [21:59] :) [22:00] you *seemed* unsure ;) [22:00] Because I was ;) [22:00] Anyways... [22:00] Has the archive been frozen in that part of it, or do things just get stuck waiting to build forever? [22:00] :) [22:00] :) [22:01] tsimonq2: the latter [22:02] cjwatson: Alright, thanks. [22:10] So to get this right, the Artful Dot One images disable the driver, or can they heal broken systems? [22:17] disable the driver [22:20] ack [22:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added [23:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added [23:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD i386 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added [23:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwupd (artful-proposed/main) [0.9.7-2 => 0.9.7-2ubuntu1] (desktop-core) [23:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwupd (artful-proposed/main) [0.9.7-2 => 0.9.7-2ubuntu1] (desktop-core) [23:52] Username for 'https://git.launchpad.net': [23:52] ...why [23:52] did I not deploy the ubuntu-cdimage fixes? [23:52] slangasek: what prompted that? [23:52] nacc: germinate lubuntu.artful [23:53] no, I have [23:53] tsimonq2: ^^ running cron.daily interactively gives me these prompts, on nusakan [23:54] for lubuntu, specifically [23:55] slangasek: ah, fyi, if a repo doesn't exist, you get prompted for auth [23:55] mmm [23:55] slangasek: ... [23:55] slangasek: i wonder if that is happening to you? (i was looking in my logs as I hit something similar) [23:56] slangasek: What script are you running? [23:56] slangasek: as lp can't expose the diff. between a private repo and a non-existent repo [23:56] tsimonq2: DIST=artful for-project lubuntu cron.daily [23:56] slangasek: ack [23:57] * Cloning branch artful of https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+ [23:57] slangasek: if that does end up being the root, we have set GIT_TERMINAL_PROMPT=0 to make it noninteractive in `git ubuntu` [23:57] git/platform/ [23:57] Cloning into '/tmp/germinate-rUfVvx/platform.artful'... [23:57] remote: Authorisation required. [23:57] fatal: Authentication failed for 'https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu- [23:57] seeds/+git/platform/' [23:57] slangasek: Right, and if that doesn't work, germinate should fall back to Bazaar... [23:58] tsimonq2: except that git *prompts* when it doesn't work; needs fixing to not prompt [23:58] slangasek: yeah that repo doesn't exist [23:58] slangasek: so the above hack will 'fix' your client tool [23:58] (or, needs fixing to not try the non-existent repo) [23:58] slangasek: Want code from me? [23:58] tsimonq2: yes please ;) [23:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added [23:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate i386 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added [23:59] slangasek: Sure, no problem, on it :)