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[06:23] <slangasek> tsimonq2: the issue is that generate-freeze-block (from lp:ubuntu-archive-tools) will freeze all packages included in an image for a flavor that's participating in a milestone, including base packages that are shared between flavors.  If generate-freeze-block were patched to not block packages which aren't flavor-specific, opt-in milestones would be much less of a problem for those who have
[06:23] <slangasek> opted out
[09:05] <Laney> slangasek: generate-freeze-block -u
[09:06] <Laney> tsimonq2: ^-
[09:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (trusty-proposed/universe) [2.29.4.2~14.04 => 2.30~14.04] (no packageset)
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[14:28] <teward> Release Team: regarding 17.04, is there a firm EOL date for it?  I didn't see an announcement yet, but I thought I'd ask.  Since relevant to a major thing right now over on Ask Ubuntu
[16:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (artful-proposed) [0.125ubuntu12.1]
[16:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.122ubuntu8.11]
[16:48] <slangasek> Laney: oh? that option has been there the whole time?
[16:51] <Laney> slangasek: I don't think it was there right at the start, but for quite sime time, yes
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (xenial-proposed/main) [0.28ubuntu0.6 => 0.28ubuntu0.7] (core)
[17:27] <tsimonq2> slangasek: So we're good now? :)
[17:27] <slangasek> tsimonq2: provided that option DTRT and we're all agreed that this is the right way to manage opt-in milestones, yes
[17:28] <slangasek> (I still think the actual milestone mechanics are just overhead, but individual flavors can still make that call)
[17:28] <tsimonq2> slangasek: You're more than welcome to test it on Lubuntu if you wish :)
[17:29] <tsimonq2> I'll be more than happy to provide patches if it doesn't.
[17:30] <Laney> You'll probably find that not as many packages are 'unique' as you might want
[17:31] <tsimonq2> How so?
[17:31] <Laney> Try the command and see
[17:32] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Speaking of patches... I'll fix some stuff on that MP a bit later, but where you left the comment of "Why?" I'd like to point to new line 46, which is what I think it is.
[17:34] <tsimonq2> I'm not a Bazaar user unless needed for simple stuff, so thanks for correcting me on those parts :)
[17:34] <tsimonq2> Laney: Alright. Is this in ubuntu-archive-tools?
[17:34] <Laney> Ya
[17:35] <tsimonq2> ack
[17:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected distro-info-data [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.28ubuntu0.7]
[17:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: distro-info-data (xenial-proposed/main) [0.28ubuntu0.6 => 0.28ubuntu0.7] (core)
[17:41] <tsimonq2> O_o
[17:41] <tsimonq2> You're right Laney
[17:41] <tsimonq2> This doesn't even have lubuntu-meta...
[17:42] <tsimonq2> I'll play with it later and propose an MP when I'm done :)
[17:42] <Laney> tsimonq2: Right, try seeded-in-ubuntu on a missing pkg and you'll see it's seeded somewhere else
[17:42] <Laney> in this case lubuntu-next
[17:43] <tsimonq2> I wonder if I can figure out logic to override it if the shared seed comes from the same place..
[17:44] <Laney> just pretend lubuntu-next is participating and add that to the commandline imo
[17:47] <tsimonq2> I just look at it from the perspective of extendability should any other flavor decide to do the same thing as us in the future.
[17:48] <tsimonq2> (i.e. Kubuntu once Plasma 6 is a reality)
[17:49] <tsimonq2> (extendability might not be the right word, but meh)
[17:50] <tsimonq2> Thanks for the info Laney
[18:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted distro-info-data [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.28ubuntu0.7]
[18:38] <LocutusOfBorg> hello infinity time to merge glibc from debian? :)
[18:41] <teward> is infinity even around?  RUmor is he's not here right now :p
[18:42] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, ^^ (I remember now that you highlight only with first word mentioning you)
[18:42] <LocutusOfBorg> in case you are not around, have fun! :) (I don't even know if a merge is useful or not)
[19:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-applets (artful-proposed/universe) [3.26.0-1 => 3.26.0-1ubuntu0.1] (desktop-extra, edubuntu)
[20:57] <slangasek> for the non-bios-mangling respin of 17.10: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/385/builds
[21:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.1) has been added
[21:29] <flocculant> slangasek: I assume flavours will show up on there at some point in the future?
[21:30] <tsimonq2> ^
[21:30] <slangasek> yes
[21:30] <flocculant> slangasek: cheers
[21:31] <tsimonq2> Niiice, many thanks to all who helped in that :)
[21:31] <slangasek> there is some misconfiguration I don't understand that's preventing them from auto-posting ("TypeError: Only active milestones are accepted"), but I'll manually post them
[21:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.2) has been added
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[21:33] <slangasek> ok, found the configuration issue, future builds hopefully post automatically
[21:33] <flocculant> ok - thanks
[21:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added
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[21:41] <acheronuk> do we have a proposed release date for these?
[21:45] <slangasek> acheronuk: I was going to propose next Thursday; opinion?
[21:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105.1) has been added
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[21:47] <jbicha> will you be respinning artful after the initial spectre fixes are published?
[21:47] <slangasek> no
[21:48] <flocculant> slangasek: I'm assuming that all we're needing to do is check install works for this - and if someone can do so with affected machines all the better?
[21:48] <slangasek> the objective of the respin is to fix the media so it stops breaking people's BIOS on boot; we don't respin media for security bugs generally, even one as nasty as meltdown/spectre
[21:49] <slangasek> flocculant: we should be looking for the usual set of release image test cases.  No need to test on affected machines, we're 99.783% sure that not compiling in the spi driver into the kernel at all will prevent that driver from breaking your bios
[21:49] <jbicha> ok, I was only asking because of the schedule question :)
[21:50] <slangasek> jbicha: so, the archive freeze due to spectre actually makes it more convenient to do the image builds now because I don't have to worry about cross-image skew in -updates; it would also be nice to have 17.10 images available again since 17.04 is due to EOL shortly
[21:52] <cjwatson> security update publication to -updates is still possible FWIW
[21:54] <slangasek> cjwatson: yes, but less likely, which still works out in my favor
[21:54] <slangasek> anyway, noted, thanks :)
[21:56] <tsimonq2> slangasek, cjwatson: Someone should disable the daily Bionic and Xenial ISO builds while the build farm is down so that we don't have to deal with the emails about it failing...
[21:57] <tsimonq2> Well, the live builds, Lubuntu Alternates *seem* to be succeeding for Bionic
[21:58] <flocculant> tsimonq2: I grabbed that yesterday to check a testcase mp - was current date at least
[21:58] <tsimonq2> flocculant: That's interesting, because iso.qa.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to be up-to-date for Lubuntu and I keep getting the failure emails...
[21:58] <slangasek> tsimonq2: if I disable them, someone then has to enable them again by hand in order for them to restart.  I was just going to leave them failing so that's one less manual thing to do when we're back on our feet
[21:58] <flocculant> tsimonq2: alternate I'm talking about
[21:59] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Oh, that's fair, got it.
[21:59] <cjwatson> I share slangasek's take
[21:59] <acheronuk> slangasek: Thursday seems reasonable to me
[21:59] <tsimonq2> flocculant: Ohh, was gonna say...
[21:59] <tsimonq2> :)
[22:00] <flocculant> you *seemed* unsure ;)
[22:00] <tsimonq2> Because I was ;)
[22:00] <tsimonq2> Anyways...
[22:00] <tsimonq2> Has the archive been frozen in that part of it, or do things just get stuck waiting to build forever?
[22:00] <flocculant> :)
[22:00] <tsimonq2> :)
[22:01] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: the latter
[22:02] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: Alright, thanks.
[22:10] <tsimonq2> So to get this right, the Artful Dot One images disable the driver, or can they heal broken systems?
[22:17] <slangasek> disable the driver
[22:20] <tsimonq2> ack
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[23:52] <slangasek> Username for 'https://git.launchpad.net':
[23:52] <slangasek> ...why
[23:52] <slangasek> did I not deploy the ubuntu-cdimage fixes?
[23:52] <nacc> slangasek: what prompted that?
[23:52] <slangasek> nacc: germinate lubuntu.artful
[23:53] <slangasek> no, I have
[23:53] <slangasek> tsimonq2: ^^ running cron.daily interactively gives me these prompts, on nusakan
[23:54] <slangasek> for lubuntu, specifically
[23:55] <nacc> slangasek: ah, fyi, if a repo doesn't exist, you get prompted for auth
[23:55] <slangasek> mmm
[23:55] <tsimonq2> slangasek: ...
[23:55] <nacc> slangasek: i wonder if that is happening to you? (i was looking in my logs as I hit something similar)
[23:56] <tsimonq2> slangasek: What script are you running?
[23:56] <nacc> slangasek: as lp can't expose the diff. between a private repo and a non-existent repo
[23:56] <slangasek> tsimonq2: DIST=artful for-project lubuntu cron.daily
[23:56] <tsimonq2> slangasek: ack
[23:57] <slangasek> * Cloning branch artful of https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+
[23:57] <nacc> slangasek: if that does end up being the root, we have set GIT_TERMINAL_PROMPT=0 to make it noninteractive in `git ubuntu`
[23:57] <slangasek> git/platform/
[23:57] <slangasek> Cloning into '/tmp/germinate-rUfVvx/platform.artful'...
[23:57] <slangasek> remote: Authorisation required.
[23:57] <slangasek> fatal: Authentication failed for 'https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-
[23:57] <slangasek> seeds/+git/platform/'
[23:57] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Right, and if that doesn't work, germinate should fall back to Bazaar...
[23:58] <slangasek> tsimonq2: except that git *prompts* when it doesn't work; needs fixing to not prompt
[23:58] <nacc> slangasek: yeah that repo doesn't exist
[23:58] <nacc> slangasek: so the above hack will 'fix' your client tool
[23:58] <slangasek> (or, needs fixing to not try the non-existent repo)
[23:58] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Want code from me?
[23:58] <slangasek> tsimonq2: yes please ;)
[23:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate amd64 [Artful Dot One] (20180105) has been added
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[23:59] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Sure, no problem, on it :)