[01:57] <masber> good afternoon, I am getting an error while restarting networking service after update my /etc/network/interface file to change nic configuration https://bpaste.net/show/c3e83d9fe9d5. any idea?
[01:58] <sarnold> restarting networking has usually lead to useless boxes
[01:58] <sarnold> does systemctl reload networking    do a better job?
[01:59] <masber> sarnold, Failed to reload networking.service: Job type reload is not applicable for unit networking.service.
[02:00] <sarnold> :(
[02:00] <masber> sarnold, ifconfig ens224 up && ifconfig ens224 up works
[02:01] <masber> but I still don't understand why it fails if using systemctl...
[02:01] <masber> I have always used centos, so I guess I am using ubuntu in the wrong way?
[02:02] <sarnold> masber: I've always used ip directly when wanting to make 'live' changes
[02:02] <sarnold> I have no idea if the systemd networking service files are supposed to be safe like this or not :(
[02:03] <masber> I see
[02:03] <masber> well best thing to know if things are stable is rebooting the server and check again I guess
[02:03] <sarnold> yeah
[02:06] <delt> Hello
[02:07] <delt> installing spamassassin on my mailserver gives me this error: install: fatal: unable to read tcpserver: file does not exist
[02:07] <delt> or even running dpkg --configure spamassassin
[02:07] <delt> in fact i get this error when installing/uninstalling any package when spamassassin is installed
[02:07] <delt> full strace of dpkg --configure spamassassin -- https://pastebin.com/bDvtfyrV
[02:08] <delt> i extracted the spamassassin .deb file and the only reference to tcpserver in it, is:
[02:08] <delt> [pts/2][root@vhost0]:/tmp/spamassassin# grep -r tcpserver .
[02:08] <delt> ./usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Message/Metadata/Received.pm:       # by tcpserver or a similar daemon that passes rDNS information to qmail-smtpd.
[02:12] <sarnold> delt: it's odd that install from /usr/local/bin/install is used
[02:13] <delt> sarnold: just a symlink to /usr/bin/install
[02:13] <delt> actually /usr/local/* are symlinks to ../*
[02:15] <delt> it opens "." and then chdir's a few times to /usr/local then fchdir's back to . (file descriptor 3) ...not very informative :/
[02:16] <delt> doesn't dpkg keep more detailed logs about wtf is going on?
[02:27] <delt> Setting up spamassassin (3.4.1-3) ...
[02:27] <delt> install: fatal: unable to read tcpserver: file does not exist
[02:27] <delt> dpkg: error processing package spamassassin (--configure):
[02:27] <delt>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 111
[02:45]  * mason sticks like glue to ifup / ifdown.
[03:45] <nacc> delt: actually, that could be the issue, it may be setting some path based upon install's path? Can nyou remove that symlink and try
[03:45] <nacc> delt: it doesn't really make sense to have /usr/local/bin symlink to /usr/binn
[04:12] <masber> hi, so this is what is happening... I wanted to change the IP address of a nic so I edited /etc/network/interfaces file and changed the IP there, then I put the interface down and up again. What ubuntu did was to add the ip instead of replacing it. Why is that?
[04:12] <sarnold> because you removed the knowledge of the ip address when you edited the file *before* running the ifdown command
[04:12] <sarnold> it's far less intelligent than you may expect :)
[04:13] <masber> it should read the interfaces file and act according to that no?
[04:13] <masber> hahaha
[04:13] <sarnold> I'd guess it tried to remove the new address ('succeeded' in the sense that the address wasn't there any more), and then add the new address ..
[04:13] <masber> yeah weird
[04:14] <sarnold> you're not the first and probably not the last to trip over this. :)
[04:14] <masber> yes I know hahaha I find it funny
[07:07] <cpaelzer> good morning
[09:27] <jamespage> rbasak: hi! so coreycb and I chatted about your suggestion to do a 'binary only' version of pxc 5.7 for bionic
[09:28] <jamespage> rbasak: however that's going to push work from packaging -> charm and make upgrades more complex so I'd rather re-align the 5.7 packaging with what we have for 5.6
[12:44] <ahasenack> rbasak: hi, any idea how I could build ubuntu-fan with git-ubuntu? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26325413/
[12:45] <ahasenack> it's 0.12.8~17.10.1 in artful already
[12:56] <ahasenack> I filed a bug, got another backtrace when trying to build bionic's version
[13:00] <ahasenack> cpaelzer: if you could take another quick look at https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/ocfs2-tools/+git/ocfs2-tools/+merge/335651
[13:00] <ahasenack> the dep8 tests pass now, I followed your suggestion from yesterday
[13:04] <rbasak> ahasenack: as a workaround, try sticking the orig tarball in the parent directory by hand.
[13:05] <ahasenack> rbasak: it's a native package, the tarball is not named "orig" if that matters
[13:06] <ahasenack> there is no orig tarball for the new version I'm building
[13:06] <ahasenack> unless I create one manually, but that's just my current directory tarred up
[13:06] <ahasenack> anyway, I'll hack my way around it without g-u for now
[13:06] <ahasenack> going old-school :)
[14:04] <teward> rbasak: I think you and I had the same idea with regards to the latest evil things on Ask Ubuntu :p
[14:04] <teward> assuming that was you who posted about it (Meltdown/Spectre)
[14:04] <rbasak> teward: sounds like someone didn't check for duplicates before posting :)
[14:05] <teward> rbasak: sounds like I've been on the phone all day with clients on this issue, got no sleep, need 500 cups of coffee and a raise.
[14:05] <teward> :p
[14:05] <teward> either way, yours is the parent, both are 'protected' from newbies, and have our answers together.
[14:05] <teward> that's gonna be the canonical question we point people at, I think.
[14:07] <rbasak> Looks good
[14:07] <teward> the only thing keeping me awake?  I'm on my 5th bottle of Barq's red creme soda.
[14:07] <teward> and that's just pure sugar
[14:30] <teward> rbasak: was there an official 17.04 EOL announcement?
[14:30] <teward> (https://askubuntu.com/questions/992232/what-is-ubuntus-status-on-the-meltdown-and-spectre-vulnerabilities#comment1601291_992617 - why i ask)K
[14:32] <rh10> teward, well, it ,means one of them in not patched yet?
[14:32] <teward> rh10: you aren't rbasak.
[14:32] <teward> i'm well familiar with the problem
[14:33] <teward> and that wasn't what i was asking
[14:33] <rbasak> teward: I've not seen an announcement yet.
[14:33] <teward> that's what i was wondering, rbasak.  Since the commenter there was about "17.04 isn't patched and won't be"
[14:33] <rh10> teward, well, yep im not a rbasak
[14:34] <rh10> sorry about that
[14:34]  * teward yawns
[14:34] <teward> sorry if I seem irritable, i've had a crap morning .>>
[14:34] <rh10> np
[14:35] <rbasak> teward: could be worth asking the security team if they're preparing updates for Zesty. Sounds like something they'd know :)
[14:46] <albech> I am doing backups on disk and want to replicate the backup across two different storage devices. Does anyone know if it is possible to create a raid 1 across two different storage devices (SANs) Thought it would be smarter than manually copying from one dive to the other after successful backup. Will the raid be able to resync if one of the devices go offline for updates etc?
[14:47] <sdeziel> albech: have you looked into DRBD?
[14:47] <albech> nope
[14:48] <sdeziel> that would be my starting point :)
[14:48] <albech> looking now ;)
[14:48] <albech> cheers
[14:59] <patdk-lap> really depends on your goal
[14:59] <patdk-lap> drbd is raid1
[14:59] <patdk-lap> but with it comes all the issues of raid1
[14:59] <patdk-lap> like, admin deletes a file from the backup server by accident
[14:59] <patdk-lap> your other backup server will NOT have it also
[15:01] <patdk-lap> zfs send/recv is more ideal for this, but depends on using zfs though
[15:03] <albech> patdk-lap: thanks for the input. will look into this as well
[15:04] <apb1963> There's far too much info out there to know what's current and what's ancient history... and what's ancient history warmed over.
[15:04] <apb1963> 16.04: Anyone have a link to the current recommended method of setting up a NIC as an access point?
[15:05] <patdk-lap> find a wifi device that actually supports it first?
[15:05] <patdk-lap> then install whatever custom hostapd patches you need to support that device in ap mode
[15:07] <apb1963> Thanks, kind of vague.  Got a link?
[15:08] <Henster> hi guys please help a noob, i cannot see anything on my screen after installing server 16.04 tyhe screen card is connected to the dvi port since my new screen has no vgi ,, i can connect via ssh ...
[15:09] <patdk-lap> no I don't and yes, cause it's different for every single nic
[15:10] <apb1963> well, that's interesting because this link seems to explain it pretty well... but I was looking for something "official".  Sadly, ubuntu docs are out of date and... well.. weak in general.
[15:10] <Henster> i have installed and get this message :  xrandr
[15:10] <Henster> Can't open display
[15:10] <apb1963> https://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/how-to-setup-an-access-point-mode-wi-fi-hotspot/180734#180734
[15:13] <Henster> omg i need to test my eyes I have hdi and its working ..lol
[15:43] <rbasak> nacc: FYI, I have some validated Sources file fetching code working
[15:44] <nacc> rbasak: nice, do you want to propose a stacked MP?
[15:44] <rbasak> nacc: needs some polishing, tests, etc.
[15:46] <nacc> rbasak: ack, i wanted to add some more tests to my MP anyways
[15:47] <nacc> that test the code as-is, including the network interactions a bit
[16:30] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: looking at ocfs again
[16:30] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: or was that done by someone else?
[16:31] <dpb1> cpaelzer: he wanted you to
[16:32] <cpaelzer> on it
[16:33] <ahasenack> cpaelzer: oh, you are here
[16:33] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: done
[16:33] <ahasenack> thanks
[16:33] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: I'm here again I should say
[16:33] <ahasenack> :)
[16:33] <cpaelzer> I had some things waiting for builders and I wanted to check
[16:34] <cpaelzer> but not yet
[16:34] <ahasenack> cpaelzer: can you push the upload tag?
[16:34] <cpaelzer> I can, I'll ping you
[16:34] <ahasenack> cpaelzer: also, what's debian equivalent of excuses? Just to check if the failure happen there as well
[16:34] <ahasenack> but I can file a bug nonetheless
[16:34] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: with so many updates, please confirm that "dcacab19" is "the right thing"
[16:34] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: debci
[16:34] <cpaelzer> I'll fetch alink fro you
[16:35] <ahasenack> dcacab199c3800e14c23342b6a0861d3ec5cc35d
[16:35] <ahasenack> yep
[16:35] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: https://ci.debian.net/packages/o/ocfs2-tools/unstable/amd64/
[16:35] <cpaelzer> all good for them
[16:35] <cpaelzer> interesting
[16:36] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: this is one of the packages affected by a bug
[16:36] <cpaelzer> it refuses to tag for non clean Dir
[16:36] <cpaelzer> but nothing is unclean
[16:36] <cpaelzer> we had a abug for this, I should make ocfs2 affected as well
[16:38] <cpaelzer> oh well in this case it really was something of gitignore
[16:38] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: tag pushed
[16:38] <cpaelzer> IIRC you can upload right?
[16:39] <ahasenack> I can
[16:52] <ahasenack> cpaelzer: I reviewed your postfix mp, btw
[16:53] <cpaelzer> saw it ahasenack
[16:53] <cpaelzer> thanks
[16:53] <ahasenack> ok
[16:53] <cpaelzer> I also see the incoming MPs but I wont get to it before Monday
[16:53] <cpaelzer> a chance for the others to review
[16:53] <ahasenack> np
[16:53] <cpaelzer> otherwise I'll pick them up then
[18:50] <Kyoku> if i start using the bionic beaver daily build will i be able to apt upgrade it to the full LTS release when it's out or will i have to do a complete reinstall?
[18:52] <dax> ubottu: final | Kyoku
[18:54] <teward> Kyoku: yes, but I strongly advise you to wait (dailies aren't updated)
[18:54] <teward> (at least not at the moment)
[19:01] <Kyoku> thanks teward i just tried installing on vmware and it failed anyway so i'll wait
[19:02] <teward> Kyoku: yeah I would not be working with the dailies or Bionic unless you have to.
[19:02] <teward> if you just want Bionic for testing, consider an LXD container of it instead
[19:02] <teward> which is what I've got running
[19:02] <teward> ... at least, when I'm testing things, I do.
[19:03] <Kyoku> i was actually trying to set it up as an LXD host for testing but yes I'll try that too
[19:26] <teward> Kyoku: i'd say stick to LTS for the LXD host part, because we know that works, while running guests within that.  YMMV, but that's my opinion
[20:14] <dnegreira> im quite happy with multipass for my virtual machine needs, it also runs bionic
[20:52] <keithzg> Hmm what does "DNE" mean in the security notices, ex. https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2017/CVE-2017-5754.html ?
[20:53] <keithzg> (I mean, I get the meaning contextually it just oddly bugs me that I can't figure out the acronym, haha)
[20:54] <dpb1> does not exist, I belive
[20:57] <TJ-> correct
[21:51] <Henster> hey guys teamviewer threw me under the buss can some one please suget a ssl version of a remote desktop that can connect to my server and desktop clients ?
[21:53] <tomreyn> Henster: there's ssh, and you can tunnel through it.
[21:54] <Henster> im usingh tightvnc on my oter pc's just wondering if the data is encrypted ?
[21:56] <oerheks> vnc over ssh is, vnc itself not.
[21:56] <tomreyn> vnc does not provide transport layer encryption, ssh does. you can combine the two. if you want it faster than vnc, use x2go.
[21:57] <Henster> x2go , ok nice tx
[21:57] <nchambers> why not just use ssh?
[21:58] <Henster> i need to remote desktop in my moms windows pc , she is blond and its for our bussiness so need a all arounder
[21:59] <Henster> ill use ssh for my servers
[22:01] <sarnold> twenty years ago I used PC AnyWhere to do windows things
[22:02] <sarnold> I wonder if it still exists. and works without a modem.
[22:02] <tomreyn> for windows, the most commonly used protocol for this purpose would be rdp (also works on linux for clients and servers). but i think you need to buy separate licenses for this on windows if you want multiple users watch/interact with the same screen at the same time (that is both the remote user connecting and the local user in front of the screen).
[22:02] <tomreyn> -> ##windows
[22:06] <sarnold> hehe yeah, asking a bunch of linux server folks what windows tools to use ..
[22:07] <sarnold> I know putty can do ssh for windows people but I doubt X11 forwarding gets very far :)
[22:07] <Henster> ha ha , i need to asdk real IT peeps :)
[22:08] <Henster> I think x2go will work for me ,, i have a server the clients can point to
[22:13] <tomreyn> If you want to try something with ubuntu bash on windows and X there i bet donofrio in #ubuntu-on-windows would love to assist.
[22:28] <qman__> you can also do RDP over SSH
[22:45] <nacc> rbasak: are you ok if i cherry-pick parts of your dsc-builder repo? e.g., https://git.launchpad.net/~racb/usd-importer/commit/?id=49b01ff87e66e86f49f8639caef5a37088e13427
[22:46] <nacc> I think that became the case in the devel branch refactor
[22:47] <nacc> rbasak: I would like to pull in your dsc_builder changes, as then i can use them to test the dsc changes for ahasenack's bug
[23:33] <mwynne> Hello. Can anyone tell me if the octavia-common package is available in ubuntu 16.04?
[23:33] <nacc> !info octavia-common xenial | mwynne
[23:33] <nacc> mwynne: no such package in ubuntu, period.
[23:34] <nacc> mwynne: did you mean octave-common?
[23:35] <mwynne> nacc: No, Octavia, the OpenStack load balancer.
[23:40] <nacc> mwynne: i see python packages for octavia, but not the one you named
[23:40] <nacc> !info python3-octaviaclilent | mwynne
[23:40] <nacc> !info python3-octaviaclient | mwynne, sorry:
[23:41] <nacc> !info python3-octaviaclient bionic
[23:41] <nacc> mwynne: --^ there, it's in 18.04 :)
[23:41] <nacc> mwynne: i'd check UCA, i guess; maybe coreycb or jamespage would konw for sure