[00:26] <valorie> just sent out the email asking for testers
[00:26] <valorie> not sure how much we want to publicize this?
[00:30] <tsimonq2> valorie: a lot
[00:31] <tsimonq2> <shameless plug> asknoahshow.com is tonight at 9 PM, he'll be talking about it :) </shameless plug>
[00:31] <valorie> cool
[00:31] <valorie> well, would could put it on the website
[00:32] <valorie> it was so hush hush until now I didn't know
[00:32] <valorie> and the kernel patch is not yet available, correct?
[00:35] <wxl> keep an eye out for anyone that has problems with their machine because of Dot One
[00:35] <wxl> there are solutions, even if it appears BIOS is borked
[00:37] <valorie> like what, wxl?
[00:37] <valorie> I thought it required a bios flasher gizmo?
[00:37] <wxl> no
[00:37] <wxl> the problem was caused by flipping the wrong bit. flipping the bit back can fix it and you can do it with software
[00:38] <wxl> you can also do it with a flasher, but that's not required
[00:38] <valorie> so why is that not being done in the respin?
[00:38] <wxl> it is
[00:38] <wxl> but whether or not it's been fully tested on every single piece of hardware it could affect?
[00:38] <valorie> so then, why would people have a problem?
[00:38] <valorie> got it
[00:38] <wxl> it affected 3 chipsets and like 20 different serial flashes
[00:39] <valorie> so how would a person fix the problem if their BIOS was borked?
[00:39] <wxl> admittedly though this update should also NOT include any SPI stuff, so if it's not broken they shouldn't be again, but who knows
[00:39] <wxl> can't save BIOS settings
[00:39] <wxl> can't boot to USB
[00:39] <wxl> e.g.
[00:40] <valorie> if there is even a chance I will not be using this machine to test
[00:41] <wxl> again, the issue was caused by the SPI being compiled into the kernel and that in turn having some bugs in it that caused issues
[00:41] <wxl> since then, there have also been improvements to the module to repair issues
[00:41] <wxl> BUT the new stuff should not even have SPI compiled in
 Lubuntu published a blog post including an FAQ: http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-17-04-eol-and-lubuntu-17-10-respins/
 It's licensed under https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/ so feel free to grab it and give us credit ;)
[00:44] <valorie> thank you
[00:44] <valorie> I have some other stuff cooking so perhaps tomorrow!
[00:44] <tsimonq2> Awesome :)
[00:44] <tsimonq2> valorie: The only thing is it's noderiv so you have to quote it word-for-word
[00:44] <valorie> pfff
[00:44] <valorie> that I will not do!
[00:45] <valorie> you do a good job of lubuntu missionary work on your own
[00:45] <tsimonq2> Put it in quotation marks and then give us credit, that's what the license is ;)
[00:46] <valorie> well, your info is not my info so I'll have to be "inspired by" instead
[00:46] <valorie> :-)
[00:46] <tsimonq2> Right :)
[00:46] <tsimonq2> Or you could link to our post ;)
[00:46] <valorie> I will
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:27] <mparillo> Hey BluesKaj. New spins of 17.10 are out to address the BIOS bug. In a VM, I tested the whole disk test cases. I know you have done partitioning in the past.
[13:39] <BluesKaj> mparillo, i haven't seen the UEFI/BIOS bug on my laptop 
[13:39] <BluesKaj> on 17.10
[13:40] <mparillo> I sure hope not. As far as I know it most commonly hits consumer-grade Lenovos. But valorie sent a e-mail last night asking us to treat it as a release candidate.
[13:40] <acheronuk> BluesKaj: testing is not for the bug. just to make sure the new iso doesn't regress on the usual iso tests
[13:42] <acheronuk> from release " No need to test on affected machines, we're 99.783% sure that not compiling in the spi driver into the kernel at all will prevent that driver from breaking your bios"
[13:43] <BluesKaj> well my Lenovo G500 is a consumer grade laptop 
[13:47] <BluesKaj> mparillo, I normally prepartition with gparted and use the manual partitioning when installing to / and then setting the /home mount point
[13:48] <BluesKaj> guess I'm missing the point about the kernel causing the bios to break
[13:50] <mparillo> I do not think any of us can creditably test that bug...It is more a sanity check that 17.10.1 is basically as good as 17.10 was.
[13:52] <acheronuk> also, it's not mandatory that flavours do these QA tests. but it's best policy for our users to run them
[15:58] <DarinMiller> I can test 17.10 iso.  Is download location hidden or is it just the standard download location?
[15:59] <acheronuk> DarinMiller: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/artful/daily-live/20180105.2/
[15:59] <acheronuk> the link on the iso tracker is broken
[16:00] <acheronuk> hopefully will be fixed later
[16:00] <acheronuk> thanks :)
[17:00] <blaze> any chance lp builder will be up online soon?
[17:20] <acheronuk> blaze: [22:10] <cjwatson> we'll hopefully be able to get things running again early next week; apologies for the inconvenience
 @acheronuk> blaze: [22:10] <cjwatson, few days to go ...