[00:26] just sent out the email asking for testers [00:26] not sure how much we want to publicize this? [00:30] valorie: a lot [00:31] asknoahshow.com is tonight at 9 PM, he'll be talking about it :) [00:31] cool [00:31] well, would could put it on the website [00:32] it was so hush hush until now I didn't know [00:32] and the kernel patch is not yet available, correct? [00:35] keep an eye out for anyone that has problems with their machine because of Dot One [00:35] there are solutions, even if it appears BIOS is borked [00:37] like what, wxl? [00:37] I thought it required a bios flasher gizmo? [00:37] no [00:37] the problem was caused by flipping the wrong bit. flipping the bit back can fix it and you can do it with software [00:38] you can also do it with a flasher, but that's not required [00:38] so why is that not being done in the respin? [00:38] it is [00:38] but whether or not it's been fully tested on every single piece of hardware it could affect? [00:38] so then, why would people have a problem? [00:38] got it [00:38] it affected 3 chipsets and like 20 different serial flashes [00:39] so how would a person fix the problem if their BIOS was borked? [00:39] admittedly though this update should also NOT include any SPI stuff, so if it's not broken they shouldn't be again, but who knows [00:39] can't save BIOS settings [00:39] can't boot to USB [00:39] e.g. [00:40] if there is even a chance I will not be using this machine to test [00:41] again, the issue was caused by the SPI being compiled into the kernel and that in turn having some bugs in it that caused issues [00:41] since then, there have also been improvements to the module to repair issues [00:41] BUT the new stuff should not even have SPI compiled in [00:41] Lubuntu published a blog post including an FAQ: http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-17-04-eol-and-lubuntu-17-10-respins/ [00:42] It's licensed under https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/ so feel free to grab it and give us credit ;) [00:44] thank you [00:44] I have some other stuff cooking so perhaps tomorrow! [00:44] Awesome :) [00:44] valorie: The only thing is it's noderiv so you have to quote it word-for-word [00:44] pfff [00:44] that I will not do! [00:45] you do a good job of lubuntu missionary work on your own [00:45] Put it in quotation marks and then give us credit, that's what the license is ;) [00:46] well, your info is not my info so I'll have to be "inspired by" instead [00:46] :-) [00:46] Right :) [00:46] Or you could link to our post ;) [00:46] I will === claydoh is now known as Guest88494 === mamarley_ is now known as mamarley === claydoh is now known as Guest25464 [12:11] Hey folks [13:27] Hey BluesKaj. New spins of 17.10 are out to address the BIOS bug. In a VM, I tested the whole disk test cases. I know you have done partitioning in the past. [13:39] mparillo, i haven't seen the UEFI/BIOS bug on my laptop [13:39] on 17.10 [13:40] I sure hope not. As far as I know it most commonly hits consumer-grade Lenovos. But valorie sent a e-mail last night asking us to treat it as a release candidate. [13:40] BluesKaj: testing is not for the bug. just to make sure the new iso doesn't regress on the usual iso tests [13:42] from release " No need to test on affected machines, we're 99.783% sure that not compiling in the spi driver into the kernel at all will prevent that driver from breaking your bios" [13:43] well my Lenovo G500 is a consumer grade laptop [13:47] mparillo, I normally prepartition with gparted and use the manual partitioning when installing to / and then setting the /home mount point [13:48] guess I'm missing the point about the kernel causing the bios to break [13:50] I do not think any of us can creditably test that bug...It is more a sanity check that 17.10.1 is basically as good as 17.10 was. [13:52] also, it's not mandatory that flavours do these QA tests. but it's best policy for our users to run them [15:58] I can test 17.10 iso. Is download location hidden or is it just the standard download location? [15:59] DarinMiller: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/artful/daily-live/20180105.2/ [15:59] the link on the iso tracker is broken [16:00] hopefully will be fixed later [16:00] thanks :) [17:00] any chance lp builder will be up online soon? [17:20] blaze: [22:10] we'll hopefully be able to get things running again early next week; apologies for the inconvenience [18:04] @acheronuk> blaze: [22:10]