[00:58] Andrea Vergano was added by: Andrea Vergano [01:05] @Stereofont, hiya Lionel and Dan. I'm uo runningand running [01:05] But am struggling wwith the keyboard. [01:07] to anyone who might be of help regarding the telegram pap itself... After Installing, I click run... And only get a white screen. I tried restarting the phone, but it no workey. [01:35] @hung_er, try to clean the cache of the app and the condig [01:37] With https://uappexplorer.com/app/ut-tweak-tool.sverzegnassi [02:09] https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/395 … The UBports team never has any fun [03:21] @UniversalSuperBox, I like this bit "What's going on here? I need to get this bug fixed fast, so we can close this madness" [03:55] Will all android apps work in anbox? [04:16] I am asking as i just got a problem on my opo where i can't go past boot again for the 4th time in 4 weeks [04:16] So i am thinking of trying UBports for a bit at least [04:17] So which partitions does this format? Does it also format sdcard/storage [04:55] Any update on meltdown and Spectre? As it affects arm ut also will be affected by this!! [05:03] @technicalbird, Does it? [05:13] It does affect arm [05:32] Rahmah28 was added by: Rahmah28 [06:28] Cool, we have solitaire card games now for UT. 👍 [07:39] Tor isn't available on a Libertine Vivid container, Iknow that much. If someone wants to test if it's in the Xenial repos and will boot on UT devices, that would be cool. [07:51] @Andrea Vergano, Welcome Andrea Vergano and @Rahmah28! I'm part of the Welcoming Team. Please look here to get up to speed: https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome and feel free to ask any question, especially in the Newcomers Room! [08:18] fabianwoods was added by: fabianwoods [08:21] @AlexiPistonrod, Have you got the binaries at the ready? Should be any day now... [08:22] @fabianwoods, Hello Fabian and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) [08:22] @milkor73, Thanks Milan [08:35] Also rather foolishly I let my M10 go down to 12% but after two minutes of charge it jumped to 28%. That doesn't seem plausible at all, even faster than USB C let alone Micro so what's up with that? [08:35] @nanu_c, Well its not that easy to make a changelog. With some some 100+ potential repos that contribute to an image, plus upstream changes coming from Canonical´s ARM build. I have no idea right now how we can make a reasonable, not too long changelog every day for this. [08:36] @technicalbird, Canonical has no patches right now, so we also have no way to act. Plus they wont update 15.04 => Backporting this is nearly impossible. The patchset is very complex. So this will be fixed in 16.04 only [08:37] @Flohack, In case you guys want, I can write small reasonable changelogs everyday by stalking github repos of ubports for announcement. [08:38] @TheImpulson, We think about automation. The problem is for me to even set up such a list :) Its all over the place [08:39] Yves Collet was added by: Yves Collet [09:00] Morning, fellow UT groupies! [09:04] So, I'm running a nexus 5 with 15.04 stable. Went to bed last night having closed all apps and turned flight mode on: Battery was at 40%. This morning, 8 hours later, the battery was at 20%. Is this normal? [09:05] (Sticker, 473x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Rt0ER9xK/file_3579 [09:11] @Ern_st, Thanks, worked like a charm! [09:16] Additionally, is there a way to modify the keyboard size? [09:24] @Yves Collet, Hello Yves and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) [09:56] @Lukas Wolfskin, On 15.04? Stable? [09:58] @Lukas Wolfskin, It is wrong, but I see that on n5 too. I find restarting before switching to flight mode cuts the drain to around 10%. :( [10:00] @Lukas Wolfskin, Pretty much. Battery management is still very much an issue, though as you see from Seumas' post above, % readout contains a large element of fantasy [10:01] @Lukas Wolfskin, If only… on my tablet the keyboard is gigantic [11:15] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/1tUonfJx/file_3591.jpg [11:15] polarr snap [11:15] but you are using unity8 on pc, right? [11:16] yep :D [11:16] ok :) [11:26] @Stereofont The telegram issue has been fixed! Thanks [12:14] I'd added e new robot_sticker. Please restart your TG app. 😉 [12:23] https://fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/mir/ [12:23] pff can't find any live feeds [12:24] @popescu_sorin, Which device ist this ? [12:24] @FelixWeinzierl, it's a PC [12:24] @popescu_sorin, Ahh😇 [12:50] @popescu_sorin, Is anyone from ubports planning to be there? [12:52] Diogo certainly is [12:53] @alan_griffiths, ubports failed to get a stand or talk accepted this year. Not sure if anyone is still going to attend though. @neothethird knows more than i [12:55] @DanChapman, Hehe. What are they afraid if? [12:56] (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/9gEfx6pW/file_3599.jpg [12:57] Nexus 5 :P though not a snap :D [13:01] Miroslav was added by: Miroslav [13:01] new chapter of the development course [13:02] https://mimecar.gitbooks.io/ubuntu-touch-programming-course/content/en/chapter-06.html [13:02] New app and native development on desktop (with future port to devices) [13:08] There is one more sticker 😎 online now. Please restart your TG app [13:08] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/PDv60hFJ/file_3600 [13:11] @Javacookies, hehe nice! supertux FTW [13:13] it's quite smooth and playable although I can't make it fullscreen :) [13:18] @alan_griffiths, We applied for a stand and pitched talks, but got rejected. There won't be an "official" presence, but i'm sure some community members will be there. I can't attend, unfortunately... [13:19] After i stopped the Ubuntu Push Client the battery consumtion is normal again on my MX4. No rapid decline anymore. [13:20] Could there be an issue with the push client that it does not go to sleep? It occured after the change to the ubports push server. Should i file a bug report? [13:21] my telegram acted odd that started yesterday, sometime it suddenly stops updating for new messages and when I switch to other chats, only the last message loads, restarting the apps solves it, anyone experienced this? [13:22] incidentally, it started when I logged-in on my other UT device [13:27] Hagee0r was added by: Hagee0r [13:28] @Hagee0r, Welcome Hager0r! Ask questions, join in. Glad to have you in our community. https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for lots of newcomer information 🚪 [13:30] @Lukas Wolfskin, Which one? [13:31] hello all I need help with installation of UT on Nexus5 [13:32] @Hagee0r, Please join the Welcome Room [13:32] ok thanks [13:33] @Hagee0r, Icelandic? 😀 [13:38] Polish [13:41] @Hagee0r, Cool. We need a Polish language group [13:42] Any other Poles here?? [13:46] UT is almost unknown in Pl [13:54] That will change! Anbox and KDE! [13:59] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIGutmeAE3I nice [14:00] @DanChapman, CONSPIRACY!!!!! [14:01] @neothethird, CRASH THE PARTY! AIR DROP UBUNTU TOUCH BROCHURES! LEAVE NO ONE UNTOUCHED! [14:03] @samzn, Who would want to run Google Chrome at all?? [14:03] @Stereofont, Netflix... :( [14:04] ... is there a netflix alternative or a way to view with firefox? I'm guessing 'no' thanks to their nasty DRM? [14:04] Doesn't firefox support DRM in the latest version? [14:04] yes you can [14:04] and you could even make a standalone wrapper with widevine [14:04] but why would you want to give them money :D [14:06] i know [14:07] but is there alternative online movie viewing service that is more ethical? I know pureflix is good for families (better). Personally i almost never watch movies but when i do I use my buddy's netflix login. I water down their money [14:08] but sadly this discussion will remain if my questions are unanswered. Ubuntu purists would give it up, but most people wouldn't at this point without alternative so for markeitng UT we do need some answers. [14:08] @mimecar, That's a really great approach. I hope it gathers a few more developers, it should certainly make it easier for those without devices to get going. [14:09] @popescu_sorin, Ok now I got the problem that when I try to run the build, an empty dialog appears with the title "Unknown error" [14:10] @derjasper, it seems also that the QML files are not copies to the build directory.. so building the stuff does basically nothing [14:10] @padraic7a, I know one guy in this group who fits this category. He really wanted to get started but could not afford a device. [14:10] @Stereofont, Hi do i need to set the option OEM unlock on before flash the Fairphone 2 with UT ? [14:11] @wayneoutthere, No idea for Netflix but my Amazon Prime works fine with Firefox. I just have to enable DRM content in preferences. [14:13] Anyone installed today's 16.04 on hammerhead? Mine isn't booting anymore. [14:14] @Xray2000, Do you mean SIM lock because you got your FP2 together with a contract? [14:15] Nu into the extra settings you have OEM unlock but i think it should be on itś flqsh now ;) [14:17] @Xray2000, Enable developer options. Allow USB debugging. Unlock OEM. Make MTP mode default [14:17] Ok thanks Lioenlb ;) [14:19] Rafa was added by: Rafa [14:20] @nfsprodriver, nope, but thanks for the heads-up, now I won't update 😜 [14:21] just kidding, I'll try it and see, it's easy to just reinstall [14:22] Okay, thanks! [14:39] Just reflashed it. Booting now ;) [14:39] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/P2W0WZuF/file_3601.webp [14:40] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/DSE7k0uj/file_3600 [14:42] Is that a chainsaw? [14:48] or a co**? [14:49] Safety glasses 😎 [14:51] @Stereofont, To skin your ass raw. [14:52] Graphic 😱 === doniks_ is now known as doniks [15:06] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/LhmAhxeM/file_3603.jpg [15:06] 16.04 just landed for me on stable [15:07] You are the MEN [15:07] Hows going? [15:08] @malditobastardo, Thank you maldito [15:08] I'm doing fine [15:08] How are you? [15:09] Good good, happy to see you here for good! [15:09] Yunit is in a dead end sadly [15:10] @malditobastardo, Yeah I heard [15:13] @Flohack, Doesn't matter anyway, since stock kernel isn't used. 14.04 patches might be applicable, but someone also needs to update oxide to chromium 64 base. Firefox also needs updated, for libertine users [15:15] @Georgecloon, 😂 [15:22] @malditobastardo, Oh, that's a pity [15:31] @malditobastardo, What happened there? [15:31] J4p74 was added by: J4p74 [15:32] @wayneoutthere, feel free to do that, but i don't have time then :/ [15:32] @J4p74, Hello Maycon. Welcome! Check https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome … Not-a-bot™ Ask, chat, explore! [15:39] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/11LwcF9V/file_3605.jpg [15:42] @alan_griffiths will be in your talk [16:46] Yance was added by: Yance [16:50] @Yance welcome! Please look at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get started and feel free to ask any question, especially in the Newcomers Room! [16:55] was there a news that yunit has been discontinued? [16:57] @malditobastardo, oh. but isn't Unity 8 rolling? [17:25] @Javacookies, No nothing, thats the thing. There arent any updates since almost 2-3 months, and Jsalatas is not even answering messages anymore, Idk. I just feel that Ubports now has the leading when speaking about Unity8 in desktop too.. [17:28] that's actually what I worry about, Unity8 is mostly about convergence, and having two teams to continue it would be tricky, yunit team can't decide to do add or change something without consulting UBports and vice versa [17:29] They made unity8 compatible with xenial and qt 5.9 months ago and I dont know if that has a purpose tbh because now Marius did the same, I dont know if he used the base from the work of Yunit or not [17:29] perhaps Marius has idea about yunit status that's he's been doing desktop stuffs lately? 👿 [17:31] @Javacookies, Yeah maybe. [17:53] anfrdn was added by: anfrdn [17:55] @anfrdn, Hello Anfrdn. Welcome! Check https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome … Not-a-bot™ Ask, chat, explore! [18:04] Guys i rea just now that mapzen will shut down in february 2018. If i remember correctly unav is based on mapzen... [18:05] yes [18:06] Marcos as already warned about that [18:06] this is a real problem [18:06] let me check if there're news about this [18:13] Can it switch to OpenStreetMap? [18:21] in theory but would lose tons of functionality and service is very unreliable [18:21] I'm talking with Marcos [18:22] the problem is that the services that are for free are bad [18:23] the others very expensive [18:23] Is there a lesson that can be learned from OSMAnd? It's a foss mapping app for Android using OSM [18:23] with OSM you only have car navigation [18:24] Foot also [18:24] And bike [18:25] Closure is on 1 February [18:25] mapbox offers service for free for GNOME Maps [18:26] Marcos has contacted them in the past but got no repply [18:26] excuse me, is there a group in Spanish? [18:26] Someone must know someone? We are 1200 here [18:27] calebin was added by: calebin [18:27] https://t.me/UBPorts_ES [18:27] gracias [18:27] :) [18:28] @calebin, Welcome Tana! Ask questions, join in. Glad to have you in our community. https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for lots of newcomer information 🚪 [18:40] https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=links#new Vote for UBports! [18:52] If you haven't been following the News Channel (https://t.me/ubports_news) then maybe you didn't know that the 20th Community Update is about to begin! [19:01] Reminder that we are trying to consolidate news so that important updates to through the News Channel. This is for your benefit. Please subscribe, it's just one click (https://t.me/ubports_news) … For today, we will publish the direct link to the community update right here: … Enjoy the update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOLji6g3ONc [19:02] oh it's live [19:02] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOLji6g3ONc [19:04] I'm taking notes. It's still open for anyone else to contribute! [19:05] Thanks @exar_kun. Yes please, we need a note-taker person for the community updates. [19:05] Or a live blogger/tweeter [19:08] Hey... are those new Yumi stickers behind you, Marius? :) [19:09] wow. cool man [19:09] Thats wild :) [19:11] got that rumour, Joe? :) [19:13] https://yunit.io/yunit-project-updates-20170917/ [19:14] how does Yunit relate to Unity 8? [19:14] . Having Yunit running in an LTS distro (16.04) and also an LTS Qt base (5.9) will greatly benefit UBPorts who are currently seeking to move Ubuntu Touch to an LTS version [19:16] Good to know, thank you Marius [19:17] @mariogrip Latest 16.04/devel for hammerhead broke my Wifi. [19:17] Forum questions? [19:17] How can we get Ubports unity 8 ? [19:17] How we can compile own kernel and install it? Is there guide for it? [19:17] for desktop? [19:17] convergence + unity 8 + ? [19:18] https://forums.ubports.com/topic/863/ubports-community-update-20-january-6-2018/10 [19:18] i still don't understand yunit [19:18] I don't either. [19:18] Unity 8 vs Yunit [19:19] Yunit was the hope to maintain alive unity8 on desktop and help with the convergence for ubports [19:19] but doing that separately doesn't make much sense [19:19] exactly [19:19] @malditobastardo, so now Unity 8 is back alive and will take over again from Yunit? [19:19] that goes against the whole point of convergence [19:19] it was a waste of time [19:20] @nfsprodriver, I think this is related to the deprecation of device files moving to ubuntu overlay. Also the 50% battery went back. Will it be easy to merge the former fixes to N5 kernel (halium)? [19:22] true... unity8 is a better 'brand'\ [19:22]