[00:00] <flocculant> I guess dev.xo. ignores importance?
[00:00] <flocculant> knome: ^^
[00:01] <knome> hmm...
[00:02] <knome> importance on what specific work item?
[00:02] <flocculant> well - I guess what I mean is if importance is wishlist, could be ignored
[00:03] <flocculant> a bug
[00:03] <knome> right...
[00:03] <knome> i guess so
[00:03] <knome> :)
[00:03] <bluesabre> :)
[00:04] <ochosi> anything else from you bluesabre on the previous topics?
[00:04] <ochosi> there were some packaging questions (dunno if you read the backlog)
[00:04] <ochosi> otherwise we can also close the meeting
[00:04] <bluesabre> ochosi: not yet, haven't had a chance to catch up
[00:04] <flocculant> :)
[00:05] <bluesabre> elementary-xfce we'll fix on the the package release
[00:05] <bluesabre> ochosi: I'll be sending you some icons I'm interested in pulling in
[00:05] <bluesabre> ready for xfpm
[00:05] <ochosi> sure
[00:05] <bluesabre> ready for ind-plug
[00:05] <ochosi> sounds good
[00:06] <bluesabre> anything else anybody needs from me?
[00:06] <flocculant> bluesabre: not me :)
[00:07] <flocculant> go eat :D
[00:07] <flocculant> or sleep or whatever ;)
[00:07] <bluesabre> :D
[00:07] <bluesabre> already eating
[00:07] <flocculant> bluesabre: quickly - not sure if you saw but iso's up for artful point release
[00:08] <bluesabre> flocculant: that's good
[00:08] <flocculant> apparently so ;)
[00:08] <bluesabre> are they being released immediately or do we have a few days for spot checks?
[00:09] <flocculant> thursday next
[00:09] <bluesabre> great
[00:09] <flocculant> I'll be calling over weekend for testing
[00:10] <flocculant> just seen 17.04 EOL week tomorrow
[00:10] <flocculant> I'll mail that too
[00:11] <flocculant> and draft on x.org
[00:11] <bluesabre> nice
[00:11] <bluesabre> busy time :)
[00:11] <flocculant> #action flocculant to mail list(s) re 17.04 EOL and draft blog post
[00:11] <meetingology> ACTION: flocculant to mail list(s) re 17.04 EOL and draft blog post
[00:11] <flocculant> hah
[00:11] <flocculant> well - check the QA bp :D
[00:12]  * flocculant closes meeting then
[00:12] <flocculant> #endmeeting
[00:12] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sat Jan  6 00:12:22 2018 UTC.  
[00:12] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2018/xubuntu-devel.2018-01-05-22.00.moin.txt
[00:13] <bluesabre> thanks flocculant 
[00:13] <JackFrost> flocculant: Any progress on Debian #884587 or moving at-spi2-core from atril's Depends to recommends?  I don't see anything in git.
[00:13] <flocculant> and goes to bed "To die, to sleep - to sleep, perchance to dream ..."
[00:13] <JackFrost> https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-calc/issues/42 is filed.
[00:14] <flocculant> JackFrost: I think that's the one bluesabre mentioned - eg moved upstream, now dead
[00:14] <flocculant> could be wrong though
[00:14] <flocculant> night all :)
[00:14] <JackFrost> flocculant: I tabbed wrong.
[00:14] <flocculant> :)
[00:14] <JackFrost> flexiondotorg: Any progress on Debian #884587 or moving at-spi2-core from atril's Depends to recommends?  I don't see anything in git.
[00:14] <flocculant> you meant Martin then :D
[00:14] <JackFrost> Yeeep!
[00:14] <bluesabre> :D
[00:15] <flexiondotorg> JackFrost: Thanks for the ping. I'll look at that over the weekend.
[00:15] <JackFrost> flexiondotorg: Thanks muchly.
[00:15] <flocculant> back in the day it was elky I was tab failed on
[00:15] <flocculant> hi flexiondotorg - and good night :)
[00:16] <flexiondotorg> JackFrost: why is at-spi2-core an issue?
[00:16] <ochosi> night everyone
[00:16] <JackFrost> flexiondotorg: It really shouldn't be a depend, it should be removable.  Not even GNOME stuff depends on it.
[00:17] <JackFrost> (It's just an accessibility daemon.)
[00:26] <knome> flocculant, just set 11th as the EOL date for 17.04 so documentation link should disappear automatically
[00:28] <knome> and with that i'm off for the day
[00:28] <knome> nighty and thanks for chairing the meeting flocculant 
[00:28] <bluesabre> nighty knome
[00:28] <knome> and bluesabre too o/
[00:28] <knome> -->
[09:19] <flocculant> knome: thanks :)
[09:43] <flocculant> knome pleia2 - eol notice done on fb, also done the testing call there - if we could get them on twitter and g+1 that'd be great :)
[09:48] <flocculant> and I wish I'd checked that the iso was actually downloadable - all flavour's iso give a 404 lol
[09:48] <JackFrost> \o/
[09:48] <JackFrost> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/artful/daily-live/current/
[09:49] <flocculant> that's ok - except everyone points to the tracker :D
[09:50] <flocculant> :)
[10:08] <flocculant> definitely something awry with the bionic iso - artful boots in vm at expected speed 
[10:08] <flocculant> helpful today :)
[13:18] <pleia2> flocculant: thanks, on it :)
[13:22] <pleia2> hm, awkward that 17.04 is being EOL when the fix for 17.10 hasn't landed yet
[13:22] <pleia2> flocculant: FB says February 18, but the notices say Feb 13
[13:22] <pleia2> err, January
[13:22] <pleia2> what month is it, what year is it
[13:24] <flocculant> pleia2: changed it to 13th - thanks :)
[13:25] <flocculant> and fix for 17.10 is around - pretty sure it's just updated kernel
[13:25] <pleia2> I see "Fix Released" on the 17.10 kernel bug, did it get fixed?
[13:25] <pleia2> oh ok, and we'll update the website when the respins of the ISOs with the right kernel are out, right?
[13:26] <flocculant> yea - that was my plan 
[13:29] <pleia2> just concerned about telling people to upgrade in case they use the ISO and run into BIOS problems
[13:29] <pleia2> maybe I can just say "do an in-place upgrade" or sth
[13:30] <pleia2> and there are still people who do a full reinstall with every release /o\
[13:30] <flocculant> I guess 
[13:30] <flocculant> if people go to grab iso - they should see the warning
[13:31]  * pleia2 nods
[13:31] <pleia2> ok, twitter updated for EOL, I'll do the testing one a little later
[13:32] <flocculant> yup - thanks :)
[13:34] <pleia2> ok, that's G+ too
[13:35] <flocculant> :)
[14:59] <pleia2> ok, testing tweets/g+ done now too
[16:45] <flocculant> thanks pleia2 :)