[00:04] <McJuicy> does the key to my encrypted home partition get evicted when my laptop is suspended?
[00:04] <McJuicy> or at least when the lid is closed?
[00:08] <kandinski> hi, the "host" command doesn't work on my laptop. I look at resolv.conf, and it says nameserver 127.0.1.1, despite the fact that I set 8.8.8.8 on my network connection in NetworkManager
[00:09] <kandinski> googling ["host" command] doesn't help much. Any idea what I should look at to fix this?
[00:10] <tanubis> @kandinski which version of ubuntu are you using, and do you have anything else managing network settings on your laptop such as a VPN?
[00:12] <XXCoder> HP laptops is very hot!
[00:12] <XXCoder> literally. they are recalling batteries and sening tech to replace em.
[00:12] <tanubis> @kandinski That looks like you are running resolution through systemd; you can check systemd-resolve --status to see actual nameservers in use.
[00:13] <kandinski> tanubis: I'm using 17.04, and I use VPNs too, via NetworkManager, but right now I'm not connected to a VPN
[00:14] <kandinski> (I know 17.10 is the supported one now, but I need to get work done before a trip, can't stop and upgrade)
[00:14] <XXCoder> did they fix bios killing bug in 17.10?
[00:20] <adman120> hey quick question, on .service files can i say uid instead of user?
[00:27] <tanubis> @kandinski do you see 8.8.8.8 as a nameserver under systemd-resolve --status?
[00:28] <speedy__> Hello everyone.
[00:29] <kandinski> tanubis: I do, for link 2 (eth0)
[00:29] <speedy__> I ave a ati mis r580 gaming x 8gb---- how do i install the drivers for it? -----how do i get the sound to play through hdmi to my tv?
[00:30] <TheLorax> I'm having trouble finding packages on ubuntu. I'm using 18.04, and http://packages.ubuntu.com is not turning up an obvious match for a "gtk3" search
[00:31] <brainwas1> TheLorax: gtk-3
[00:32] <TheLorax> gtk+3.0 seemed to work on the commandline
[00:32] <TheLorax> but provides no match on packages.ubuntu.com
[00:34] <gracious1> Had a major crash and burn with Basilisk just now.
[00:34] <gracious1> Completely froze, a lot of errors in Terminal window
[00:35] <speedy__> I have a ATI MSI r580 gaming x 8gb---- How do I install the drivers for it?
[00:35] <kandinski> tanuki: there is no link 1, link 3 is wlan0 (same DNS server, as expected) and link 4 is vboxnet0
[00:36] <adman120> hey quick question, on .service files can i say uid instead of user?
[00:37] <brainwas1> adman120: I would guess no. however, I did not read the man page, nor did I test it (which is pretty easy to do, isn't it?)
[00:40] <Bashing-om> kandinski: vbox; Maybe ?? . See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1624320 .
[00:40] <kandinski> Bashing-om: thanks, looking into it
[00:41] <kandinski> Bashing-om: except that my resolv.conf looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26336272/
[00:44] <Bashing-om> kandinski: Yeah, standard desktop network manager config . But you are attempting a bridge, no ?
[00:45] <kandinski> I don't know what I'm attempting. I just installed standard ubuntu packages and the 'host' command stopped working. I do write code for a living, but I don't know that much about networking.
[00:46] <Bashing-om> kandinski: systemd and netplan is a whole new ball game . I too do not know nuch about this new management system .
[00:47] <tomreyn> speedy__: they will install by default
[00:48] <tomreyn> the driver is called amdgpu
[00:48] <tomreyn> (this is starting ubuntu 16.04 lts)
[00:48] <speedy__> tomreyn, how do i check?
[00:49] <speedy__> dpkg -l amdgpu-pro
[00:49] <speedy__> dpkg-query: no packages found matching amdgpu-pro
[00:51] <tomreyn> speedy__: sudo lspci -k | grep -A3 VGA | grep Kernel
[00:54] <tomreyn> speedy__: it should say "Kernel driver in use: amdgpu". if you want amdgpu-pro you'll need to follow the instructions available on amd's website. i don't think this is packaged, yet-
[00:54] <Bashing-om> kandinski: Looking at ' man hostnamectl ' . seems this is the way to go now-a-days .
[00:55] <speedy__> nothing happened..
[00:55] <tomreyn> speedy__: are you talking to me? if so, nothing happened when you did what?
[00:56] <speedy__> sudo lspci -k | grep -A3 VGA | grep Kernel
[00:56] <speedy__> speedy@speedy:~$  sudo lspci -k | grep -A3 VGA | grep Kernel
[00:56] <speedy__> speedy@speedy:~$
[00:56] <kandinski> Bashing-om: ta very much
[00:56] <tomreyn> speedy__: what happens if you just run "sudo lspci -k | grep -A3 VGA"
[00:56] <kandinski> I need to cook for the fam now, but I'll come back to this later.
[00:57] <speedy__>  sudo lspci -k | grep -A3 VGA
[00:57] <speedy__> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device 67df (rev e7)
[00:57] <speedy__> 	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 3419
[00:57] <speedy__> 01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device aaf0
[00:57] <speedy__> 	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device aaf0
[00:57] <Bashing-om> kandinski: Got to take care of what is important :)
[00:57] <tomreyn> !paste | speedy__
[00:58] <tomreyn> speedy__: which ubuntu release is this?
[00:58] <Orvalvisje> hello
[00:58] <tomreyn> speedy__: lsb_release -ds
[00:58] <speedy__> 16.04
[00:59] <tomreyn> speedy__: 16.04.0 then?
[00:59] <Orvalvisje> does there exist a program in ubuntu 16.04 to program the hour when your pc turns of? Not sleeping, not idle, really, physically turning of. (closing all programs that are running in the proces as well)
[01:00] <Orvalvisje> like the opposite principle of an alarm clock
[01:01] <speedy__> tomreyn, how do i check in cli?
[01:01] <tomreyn> Orvalvisje: you can configure a cron job to run 'shutdown', but you'll loose any unsaved data of running desktop applications.
[01:02] <tomreyn> speedy__: run: lsb_release -ds
[01:02] <XXCoder> just retighten it, it;ll be fine
[01:02] <Orvalvisje> tomreyn: what's a cron job?
[01:02] <loltroll> how is 16.04 situated wrt meltdown and spectacle?
[01:02] <tomreyn> !cron | Orvalvisje
[01:03] <tomreyn> loltroll: there's a patch for firefox available. other patches are being worked on. it's "spectre" btw.
[01:04] <tomreyn> !kpti | Orvalvisje
[01:04] <tomreyn> sorry, this was for loltroll ^
[01:04] <Orvalvisje> no prob
[01:04] <Orvalvisje> thanks fot the info, will have a read through the site you linked
[01:05] <loltroll> If I just do regular apt-get upgrade then the patches will show up sooner or later, right?
[01:05] <speedy__> tomreyn, Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[01:05] <tomreyn> loltroll: yes, if you also have intel-microcode installed (assuming you have an intel cpu)
[01:06] <billythekid> I am trying to set the umask to 077 on my 17.10. When I create files on console it works normally but if I create one with a GUI editor it gets 644... I tried modifying the following files: /etc/login.defs, /etc/profile, ~/.bashrc. Do I miss something?
[01:06] <loltroll> got intel but don't know nothing about microcode.
[01:07] <tomreyn> loltroll: from your desktops' main menu, select settings -> additional drivers, and make use "Using Processor microcode firmware..." is active
[01:08] <loltroll> that's for kubuntu?
[01:08] <loltroll> oh, nvm, found it.
[01:10] <tomreyn> billythekid: did you logout and in again?
[01:15] <billythekid> tomreyn: yes
[01:15] <billythekid> I'm reading about the "session optional pam_umask.so"
[01:15] <billythekid> do I need to pass the parameter there instead?
[01:19] <tomreyn> billythekid: editing ~/.profile should suffice
[01:19] <billythekid> dude I have it all over the place... :(
[01:19] <tomreyn> billythekid: also ~/.bash_profile if you use bash
[01:20] <billythekid> in bash it works fine, from GUI it does not
[01:21] <tomreyn> billythekid: oh so in a virtual terminal you get the right umask but not using e.g. a graphical file browser?
[01:21] <billythekid> exactly
[01:21] <tomreyn> billythekid: which graphical desktop and ubuntu release are these?
[01:22] <billythekid> ubuntu 17.10, Gnome
[01:22] <billythekid> Xorg
[01:24] <tomreyn> billythekid: maybe you also need it in ~/.xsessionrc
[01:24] <tomreyn> but i really dont know then
[01:24] <billythekid> hmm thx let me give it a try
[01:26] <billythekid> tomreyn: so basically put "UMASK 077" in ~/.xsessionrc right?
[01:26] <billythekid> and then reload gnome
[01:27] <tomreyn> billythekid: it's lower case, everywehre
[01:28] <billythekid> right only on /etc/login.defs is upercase
[01:28] <tomreyn> yes, but this will change it system wide
[01:29] <billythekid> yes, I basically have it in 3 places but still does not work :P
[01:29] <billythekid> let me try the 4th that you suggested
[01:29] <billythekid> brb :)
[01:33] <billythekid> tomaw: that did not do it either... :(
[01:35] <tomreyn> billythekid: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/254378/how-to-set-umask-for-the-entire-gnome-session
[01:35] <tomreyn> 2nd answer
[01:37] <michael2> does anyone know if its possbible under ubuntu's license/policy for packages in universe to not have source code available?
[01:37] <billythekid> $ grep Umask /proc/2913/status returns Umask:	0022
[01:37] <billythekid> lol... :P
[01:37] <billythekid> tomreyn: spot on
[01:38] <billythekid> tomreyn: should not the setting on /etc/profile override this?
[01:38] <billythekid> I have it in /etc/profile AND /etc/login.defs. it should be the default for all users right?
[01:40] <billythekid> let me try one of the 2 solutions listed in the link...
[01:55] <billythekid> tomaw: I tried adding a record in .gnomerc and also "systemctl --user edit dbus"
[01:55] <billythekid> nothing works...
[01:56] <billythekid> given that setting Umask in /etc/login.defs affects the entire system, should not it be working also for gnome?
[02:05] <McJuicy> does the private key for my encrypted home folder get evicted from RAM when the computer is suspended?
[02:11] <gracious1> I seem to be having trouble staying connected...
[02:31] <laptop> hello
[02:31] <laptop> I finally got the printers to work in ubunt
[02:31] <laptop> ubuntu
[02:31]  * ykoda cheers
[02:32] <laptop> other than firefox or there any other mitigation strategies for meltdown or spectre
[02:32] <laptop> i.e. updates
[02:32] <laptop> and has archlinux and gentoo already patched with the new kernel
[02:33] <laptop> is the 4.14 linux kernel universal to debian, arch, and gentoo
[02:34] <Ben64> laptop: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2018/01/04/ubuntu-updates-for-the-meltdown-spectre-vulnerabilities/
[02:35] <laptop> would you recommend getting AMD and just tossing the intel processor machines
[02:35] <Ben64> up to you
[02:35] <laptop> I mean spectre effects everyone and buying a $2000 machine seems kind of pointless
[02:40] <laith> the internet on ubuntu is very slow
[02:40] <laith> what sould i do?
[02:41] <laith> and i have a question mark on wifi icon
[02:54] <bonhoeffer> after several failed connections, I'm getting ssh: connect to host 52.164.117.110 port 22: Connection refused
[02:55] <bonhoeffer> i'm worried that i've made too many failed attempts -- how can i check the server logs?
[02:57] <bonhoeffer> i restarted the ssh service
[02:57] <Ben64> cat /var/log/auth.log
[02:57] <bonhoeffer> but still no connection -- looking in that log
[02:57] <Ben64> theres other logs too
[02:59] <bonhoeffer> ok -- i can put in a password again
[02:59] <bonhoeffer> so timeout must have passed
[03:02] <bonhoeffer> Ben64: thanks for the pointer -- that was the right log
[03:02] <Ben64> cool np
[03:03] <bonhoeffer> ls
[03:03] <bonhoeffer> typo -- i granted sftp access by password to a particular user -- i can get into the directory with their password, but they don't have permissions there to change anything
[03:04] <bonhoeffer> they belong to the group that owns that directory
[03:38] <laptop> hello
[03:39] <strive> We're closed.
[03:40] <strive> Come back to tomorrow.
[03:40] <leftyfb> strive: please don't do that
[03:40] <strive> Ok.
[03:40] <leftyfb> laptop: do you have a support question?
[03:41] <laptop> yes
[03:42] <laptop> I still need help with updates for meltdown
[03:43] <leftyfb> laptop: Any security updates will come as they are released. Just run your updates and you'll get them when they are released.
[03:44] <leftyfb> laptop: also, the recent security issues aren't really anything for the average user to worry about. They're been no exploits in the wild, it will take a lot of work for someone to exploit the bugs and someone needs to be logged into your machine.
[03:46] <michael2> hi, can does anyone know if ubuntu documents its licensing and ethical policy for packages in universe, i.e. its policies are detailed at the foollowing link for main and restricted.
[03:46] <michael2> https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/licensing
[03:46] <leftyfb> laptop: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/SpectreAndMeltdown
[03:46] <Checkmate> how much time to remove dupplicate strings ,for a file with 23GB
[03:47] <leftyfb> Checkmate: there's lots of variables to determine that
[03:47] <michael2> specifically im interested to know if there are any conditions under which non-open source programs can be included in universe packages?
[03:47] <Checkmate> give me some i do pv but not very helpfull
[03:48] <leftyfb> Checkmate: drive speed, memory, cpu, file type, number of lines in the file, number of characters
[03:48] <laptop> anyone try bodhi, is it faster than lbuntu for playing games
[03:49] <laptop> my assumption is lubuntu is faster
[03:49] <Checkmate> leftyfb i want something to know like Progress Bar
[03:49] <Checkmate> %
[03:50] <Checkmate> so i can check how much left
[03:50] <Checkmate> time
[03:50] <leftyfb> laptop: bodhi linux isn't supported here
[03:50] <leftyfb> Checkmate: pv might be your only way
[03:50] <Checkmate> leftyfb the script already running !!
[03:50] <leftyfb> then no
[03:51] <Sveta> laptop: bodhi uses a Moksha window manager - could try that on your ubuntu but Moksha isn't packaged, so you would need to create a package locally
[03:52] <Sveta> laptop: (or alternatively try both distros in a vm to compare performance)
[03:53] <Sveta> laptop: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html has a guide to making your own package if you are interested in that option
[03:54] <Checkmate> leftyfb stat -c "%s"  ??
[03:54] <Sveta> laptop: also, http://www.bodhilinux.com/moksha-desktop/ suggests that installing 'e17' (enlightenment wm) on ubuntu may give you a vaguely similar performance
[04:22] <V7> Hey all
[04:22] <V7> The strange thing
[04:22] <V7> The booted system can't mount a disk with uuid which is not in blkid
[04:24] <V7> Btw it doesn't boot properly because shows initramfs
[04:27] <adman120> hey does anyone know how to clear mono dns cache
[04:28] <cpcat> My ubuntu laptop is connected to my TV via HDMI.  The TV is getting a picture just like a 2nd monitor but the sound isn't routed to the TV.  I don't want the laptop sound.
[04:30] <Sveta> cpcat: did you try to specify the sound in system settings?
[04:32] <adman120> hey does anyone know how to clear mono dns cache
[04:32] <Sveta> adman120: programmatically or you need a button?
[04:32] <adman120> just once
[04:33] <adman120> Sveta i just need a command that i can type
[04:33] <cpcat> Sveta: they are enabled.
[04:34] <cpcat> Got it thanks.
[04:35] <Sveta> cpcat: ok
[04:35] <V7> It's strange
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[04:36] <V7> Could anyoine help me out with this one: the system says it can't mount some disk with uuid which doesn't exists in /etc/fstab
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !fstab | V7
[04:37] <V7> Already checked
[04:37] <V7> fstab has all blkid values
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> V7: did you add recently harddisk or so?
[04:39] <oerheks> if that disk is dirty ( not closed clean ) this happens too, run fsck on it?
[04:39] <adman120> Sveta please?
[04:40] <V7> lotuspsychje: removed all from / and copied from backed up archive, but before formatted / partition
[04:40] <V7> Now I see initramfs screen
[04:40] <V7> So I guess kernel can't mount /
[04:42] <Sveta> adman120: i've found `ServicePointManager.DnsRefreshTimeout` setting in mono can help, but i don't see proper documentation for it, it may be worth asking #mono at irc.gnome.org
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> V7: does your backup match your harddisks?
[04:42] <oerheks> V7 please don't crosspost, not fair for volunteers ..
[04:43] <V7> Sorry
[04:43] <V7> lotuspsychje: You mean grub's config ?
[05:18] <Guest35520> hello everyone .. i closed terminal during update command and now it's locked. what do i do?
[05:19] <XXCoder> Guest35520: I guess lock file still exists so it cant run
[05:20] <Guest35520> hello everyone .. i closed terminal during update command and now it's locked. what do i do :D
[05:21] <Guest35520> deleted those files :D
[05:23] <XXCoder> you deleted the lock file?
[05:24] <Guest35520> yes - it should reset now by itself. that what the google said
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | google
[05:30] <XXCoder> hmm
[05:30] <XXCoder> well guess it fixed itself or something since guy left
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[05:30] <XXCoder> nothing in computing world I hate worse than self-resolving problem lol
[05:33] <V7> Anyone ?
[05:36] <V7> All steps: on working machine it was copied into tar.gz arhive and an arhive was copied without /sys /media /mnt /home /proc to other storage. After that /dev/sda1 which is / was formatted and this arhive was extracted to /dev/sda1. After that grub said it can't find uuid so grub was reconfigured and /etc/fstab was rewritten. After that I've got kernel panic: "like it sync or smth. like that"
[05:36] <JOHNSON> hii cananyone help me
[05:37] <JOHNSON> plzz  help me
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> !ask | JOHNSON
[05:38] <JOHNSON> hii
[05:38] <JOHNSON> i have downloaded ubuntu mate image ad64 and want to do a testuite
[05:39] <JOHNSON> plzz help
[05:39] <XXCoder> what is testuie
[05:39] <qiao> ???
[05:41] <XXCoder> okay heh
[05:46] <Guest972> join #vim
[06:24] <draguu> #blender coder
[06:29] <arunkumar413> do we have patches for the hardware security flaws recently discovered in intel processors?
[06:31] <Sveta> yes, just click update in your update manager and the relevant updates will be offered for you to install
[06:33] <TaZeR> i opted out of the patch for this because i didnt want to lose 30% cpu performance on my already slow computer
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> !kpti | arunkumar413
[06:34] <TaZeR> the chances anyone would want to hack my puny little computer is pretty much nothing
[06:34] <TaZeR> and if they do i will restore a backup
[06:34] <alkisg> Bots do it automatically, they don't target individuals
[06:35] <alkisg> You may see a 80% decrease by being part of a botnet
[06:35] <alkisg> And not ever realize it :)
[06:35] <TaZeR> still not very likely to happen, and like i said it it does i can just do a system restore
[06:35] <alkisg> IF you realize it, sure
[06:35] <TaZeR> not worth losing half my cpu power everyday
[06:36] <TaZeR> if being hacked really slows u down that much then id notice
[06:36] <kkremitzki> 30% and 50% are pretty different, and besides, 30% was IIRC the *upper* estimate on certain types of workloads
[06:36] <alkisg> I've seen bots that pause when you try to run `top` or similar
[06:37] <speedmann> loosing all your money should be worth a few percent of performance loss
[06:37] <alkisg> So you don't realize they take up cpu
[06:37] <speedmann> getting possibly all your passwords stolen is a very high risk
[06:37] <TaZeR> its not a big deal to me, nothing i do online is THAT important that a simple password reset wont fix
[06:38] <alkisg> No online banking i presume...
[06:38] <TaZeR> nah
[06:38] <speedmann> no amazon, no paypal, no mail no nothing
[06:45] <XXCoder> TaZeR: its not all cpu, there could be keyloggers and stuff
[06:46] <XXCoder> im sure not all your usage is porn, but some is bank and such
[07:02] <V7> Hey all
[07:02] <V7> So why https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR doesn't work ?
[07:02] <V7> I've made a tar.gz of the whole system with a command suggested.
[07:03] <pizzadude> hi
[07:03] <V7> After that I've formatted partition, extracted arhive, changed /etc/fstab and grub.cfg, but now I get Kernel Panic
[07:03] <pizzadude> why hasn't ubuntu patched the kernel for meltdown yet?
[07:05] <EriC^^> pizzadude: it's on jan 9th
[07:05] <pizzadude> why that date? the vuln was disclosed already
[07:06] <V7> pizzadude: They are copying needed stuff from attacked so ... just wait some time while password are copying ... would you
[07:06] <V7> You know ... give some hackers some time ...
[07:08] <pizzadude> ; - P
[07:08] <EriC^^> pizzadude: someone was saying that they had planned on jan 9th but it got released without their knowledge
[07:09] <pizzadude> ok, why is it so hard to git pull and merge the changes?
[07:09] <pizzadude> and create a .deb
[07:09] <EriC^^> i dunno maybe it's not done yet or something
[07:10] <pizzadude> i see
[07:10] <pizzadude> well i'll just keep using mainline for now until then
[07:11] <ix_> Debian has released a kernel update for the Meltdown bug on the 4th
[07:11] <V7> pizzadude: I told you ... just wait some time on net while you creds are transferring to rogue one .. (hope not)
[07:11] <pizzadude> ...ok dude...we get it...you're trying to be shady...
[07:12] <alkisg> V7: upload a screenshot of the kernel panic
[07:12] <alkisg> !pastebin
[07:12] <V7> alkisg: https://i.imgur.com/21Gngsu.jpg
[07:12] <alkisg> V7: could be you have the wrong uuid. Boot from a live cd to reinstall grub
[07:13] <V7> alkisg: Already changed grub.cfg and /etc/fstab
[07:13] <alkisg> Btw, you were root while tar/untarring, right?
[07:13] <V7> ofc
[07:13] <alkisg> V7: not enough, did you reinstall grub?
[07:13] <V7> nope, jsut changed grub.cfg
[07:13] <alkisg> Not enough
[07:13] <V7> How to chroot then there ?
[07:13] <alkisg> And you also need to update-initramfs -u, in order for fstab to go to initramfs
[07:14] <alkisg> Are you on the live cd now?
[07:14] <V7> Yes
[07:14] <alkisg> sudo lsblk --fs==> pastebin
[07:14] <V7> alkisg: no such blkblk
[07:14] <V7> lsblk *
[07:14] <alkisg> Read again
[07:14] <alkisg> Copy/paste it
[07:14] <V7> livecd is ubuntu server
[07:14] <alkisg> Eh
[07:15] <V7> fdisk ?
[07:15] <alkisg> Which one is your main partition, sda1?
[07:15] <V7> yup
[07:15] <alkisg> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; ls -lha /mnt/bin | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:16] <V7> http://termbin.com/bhix
[07:17] <alkisg> V7: bios or uefi? mbr or gpt?
[07:17] <V7> bios and dos (mbr)
[07:18] <alkisg> for d in proc sys dev dev/dpts; do mount --bind /$d /mnt/$d; done
[07:18] <alkisg> (all as root)
[07:18] <alkisg> chroot /mnt
[07:18] <alkisg> dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[07:18] <EriC^^> ^ typo in /dev/dpts
[07:18] <alkisg> update-initramfs -u
[07:18] <alkisg> exit
[07:18] <alkisg> Ty EriC^^, V7 note the typo there
[07:18] <EriC^^> (should be dev/pts)
[07:19] <alkisg> V7: those should be enough, but for good measure, also upload this: ( blkid; cat /mnt/etc/fstab ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:19] <V7> alkisg: when chroot: can't execute '/bin/sh': No such file or directory
[07:20] <alkisg> V7: and, ls -lha /mnt/bin/sh shows it's there?
[07:20] <alkisg> Or did you change some of the commands?
[07:20] <V7> yup and it's link to dash
[07:20] <V7> I didn't change there anything
[07:21] <alkisg> V7: dpkg --print-architecture
[07:21] <V7> no such dpkg
[07:21] <alkisg> V7: so the ubuntu server cd does not have dpkg?
[07:21] <alkisg> Are you sure you're using ubuntu?
[07:22] <V7> uname -a says x86_64
[07:22] <V7> alkisg: yes
[07:22] <alkisg> Hrm... what do you get if you directly try to run: /mnt/bin/dash
[07:23] <V7> alkisg: https://i.imgur.com/4U37yZN.jpg this's how it looks like when I'm in rescue ubuntu server's livecd
[07:24] <V7> alkisg: I see #
[07:24] <V7> So ... that means that dash works ... isn't it ?
[07:24] <alkisg> OK, type exit
[07:24] <alkisg> Then try: chroot /mnt /bin/dash
[07:25] <alkisg> Does that give you a shell?
[07:25] <echelon> hi, i just installed ubuntu in qemu, but i just get 800x600 screen resolution
[07:25] <V7> alkisg: chroot: can't execute '/bin/dash': No such file...
[07:26] <alkisg> V7: that's strange. Can you boot with the ubuntu desktop live cd instead?
[07:26] <alkisg> echelon: what's the output of `xrandr | nc termbin.com 9999` ?
[07:26] <V7> oh
[07:26] <echelon> i read that -vga std is supposed to support up to 2560x1600
[07:26] <V7> Ok ... I'll try to, but is it necessary ?
[07:27] <V7> Look alkisg I've tried to backup like in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR was said
[07:27] <echelon> alkisg: http://termbin.com/sxna
[07:28] <V7> So ... I've created an arhive in booted up OS and after that I've formatted /dev/sda1 to check if it works. So after that I've tried to extract an arhive to /dev/sda1 and I got uuid error ... so I've changed /etc/fstab and grub.cfg
[07:28] <alkisg> V7: yup, I get that, but having dash there and being able to execute it normally but not with  chroot, doesn't add up
[07:29] <V7> Also I've understood that I've missed grub reinstallation, but for it I need to chroot into /dev/sda1, but chroot doesn't work. So why it would be happening ?
[07:29] <V7> Could it be because of libraries ?
[07:29] <alkisg> Yes, it may
[07:29] <alkisg> echelon: what qemu command line are you using?
[07:29] <V7> How we would check that and how it could didn't copy into backup archive >
[07:30] <alkisg> V7: i would prefer to work from a real system instead of from a server session which is very limited
[07:30] <alkisg> V7: it may introduce additional issues that I wouldn't want to bother with
[07:31] <echelon> alkisg: qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -machine q35,accel=kvm -device intel-iommu -cpu host -boot order=c -drive file=lubuntu,format=raw -m 2G -vga std -nographic -vnc :0
[07:31] <V7> Roger
[07:32] <V7> alkisg: Started to download ubuntu desktop
[07:35] <alkisg> echelon: -vga std offers me a lot of resolutions here, but vnc :0 doesn't work and says: qemu-system-x86_64: -vnc :0: Failed to start VNC server: Failed to create socket: Address family not supported by protocol
[07:36] <echelon> address family? ^_- are you using ipv6 or something?
[07:36] <alkisg> No
[07:36] <echelon> how about -vnc 127.0.0.1:0
[07:36] <alkisg> Ah, maybe it meant "port already in use" :)
[07:36] <alkisg> Trying vnc :2...
[07:36] <echelon> oh
[07:37] <alkisg> echelon: works for me
[07:37] <echelon> ffs
[07:37] <alkisg> I get 5 resolutions, using 16.04.3 on both host and guest
[07:37] <echelon> did you install any particular guest drivers?
[07:38] <alkisg> Using the live cd
[07:38] <alkisg> So nothing installed
[07:38] <echelon> lubuntu?
[07:38] <alkisg> MATE
[07:38] <alkisg> echelon: are you using wayland?
[07:38] <alkisg> E.g. 17.10?
[07:39] <echelon> alkisg: yeah
[07:39] <alkisg> echelon: ah, that's why then
[07:40] <echelon> why :/
[07:40] <alkisg> wayland only shows 1 resolution to xrandr
[07:40] <echelon> -_-
[07:40] <alkisg> And you need the wayland-specific way to change resolutions
[07:40] <alkisg> Not xrandr etc
[07:40] <echelon> oh boy
[07:40] <echelon> how's that
[07:40] <alkisg> If that's ubuntu 17.10, there's a display settings dialog in the control panel or something
[07:40] <V7> Btw thank you very much alkisg for trying
[07:40] <alkisg> V7: np
[07:41] <echelon> alkisg: i see "monitor settings" under preferences
[07:41] <alkisg> Something like that, yes, I'm not using gnome
[07:41] <echelon> and it brings up a "display settings" dialog box
[07:42] <echelon> it's lxde
[07:42] <alkisg> lxde is using wayland? that sounds strange
[07:42] <echelon> anyway, under resolution, it also shows only 800x600
[07:42] <alkisg> ps aux|grep -i wayland
[07:42] <alkisg> Does that show anything wayland-ish?
[07:42] <alkisg> or, ps aux|grep -i xorg
[07:42] <echelon> nothing shows for wayland
[07:43] <echelon> i see xorg-core process,
[07:43] <alkisg> That doesn't sound like wayland then
[07:44] <echelon> so should i just edit xorg.conf?
[07:44] <echelon> eh, there isn't an xorg.conf
[07:45] <alkisg> By default there's no xorg.conf
[07:45] <alkisg> echelon: do you have some livecd.iso that you could test with, using the same command line?
[07:45] <V7> alkisg: Could it be that /mnt/usr/lib/libc* doesn't exists so chroot doesn't work ?
[07:45] <alkisg> Because afaik it should just work...
[07:46] <echelon> it showed only 800x600 in the live cd as well
[07:46] <alkisg> V7: yes, if libraries are missing it could cause that. strace -e trace=file chroot.... could tell you, but I wouldn't want to do that from server.iso
[07:46] <echelon> oh, you mean the same iso you were using?
[07:46] <alkisg> echelon: some other iso, maybe a 16.04 one
[07:46] <alkisg> echelon: for example, lubuntu 16.04.3 works fine here as well
[07:47] <V7> Roger that alkisg
[07:48] <echelon> ok, i'll give it a try
[07:48] <echelon> alkisg: and you're using -vga std -nographic -vnc :whatever ?
[07:49] <alkisg> kvm -m 1024 -vga std -nographic -vnc :3 -cdrom lubuntu-16.04.3-desktop-i386.iso
[07:49] <echelon> k
[07:50] <alkisg> Heh 10 MB/sec here, I can try with 17.10 in 1 minute... :D
[07:51] <echelon> probably why i'm getting only 400KB/s :P
[07:53] <alkisg> echelon: 17.10 works fine here too
[07:54] <alkisg> termbin.com/7sda
[07:57] <echelon> this is disheartening
[08:05] <echelon> alkisg: ok, this is weird
[08:06] <alkisg> echelon: what's your host? It shouldn't matter.... also, does it have gui, or just console?
[08:08] <echelon> alkisg: running slackware, i'm logged in from ssh
[08:09] <echelon> there is an xdm process running
[08:09] <alkisg> echelon: maybe it's missing some components on the host, that qemu needs in order to do the vesa extensions
[08:10] <alkisg> echelon: since it doesn't sound ubuntu-related at all, maybe ask in #qemu
[08:10] <echelon> alkisg: well, i just accidentally ran the 17.10 live cd by accident, and it showed additional resolutions
[08:10] <echelon> i dunno why it behaves differently in the install
[08:38] <echelon> alkisg: unbelievable.. works fine from livecd, same issue from within installed drive
[08:40] <alkisg> echelon: compare the two /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:40] <echelon> ok
[08:40] <alkisg> echelon: it's also possible to use a custom edid, if it gets to that
[08:41] <echelon> edid?
[08:41] <alkisg> the monitor information, passed to the kernel
[08:41] <McJuicy> anyone know if the encryptfs password is evicted from the linux keyring when the computer is suspended?
[08:41] <McJuicy> *encryptfs key
[08:42] <josch> quit
[08:49] <echelon> alkisg: from the install.. http://termbin.com/xa9v from livecd.. http://termbin.com/ni1q
[08:50] <alkisg> echelon: it's using fbdev in the installed, vesa in the live cd
[08:50] <alkisg> Try booting with nomodeset
[08:50] <alkisg> !nomodeset
[08:52] <echelon> how do i do that, i just see a black screen when it boots
[08:53] <alkisg> echelon: hold shift down for the grub menu to appear
[08:53] <alkisg> Ah
[08:53] <alkisg> sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[08:53] <alkisg> And put nomodeset there
[08:53] <echelon> cool
[08:55] <marco> hi
[08:55] <alkisg> hi
[08:55] <echelon> where it says "quiet splash"?
[08:55] <echelon> just append nomdeset?
[08:55] <alkisg> echelon: right
[08:56] <echelon> alkisg: did it, haven't noticed any changes
[08:57] <echelon> after rebooting that is
[08:58] <alkisg> echelon: grep nomodeset /proc/cmdline
[08:58] <alkisg> Does that display the command line?
[09:00] <echelon> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.13.0-21-generic root=UUID-....... ro quiet splash nomodeset vt.handoff=7
[09:00] <alkisg> echelon: can you pastebin your current xorg.log?
[09:01] <echelon> http://termbin.com/owj6
[09:01] <alkisg> echelon: also, try with this /etc/X11/xorg.conf, which forces vesa: http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?topic=5220.msg79135#msg79135
[09:05] <q0_0p> i see that ubuntu 17.10 was pulled
[09:06] <q0_0p> is Linux pagusph-MBP 4.13.0-21-generic #24-Ubuntu still the latest kernel ?
[09:08] <echelon> alkisg: that worked! :)
[09:08] <echelon> thanks a lot
[09:08] <alkisg> np
[09:20] <ShekharReddy> how to upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS
[09:21] <ShekharReddy> or 17.04
[09:22] <dv`> ShekharReddy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_14.04_LTS_or_15.10
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | ShekharReddy
[09:30] <ShekharReddy> i did that dv`  but the update manager is showing that my machine is up to date
[09:30] <cfhowlett> ShekharReddy, what version is currently installed
[09:30] <ShekharReddy> 14.04
[09:31] <cfhowlett> ShekharReddy, do this then:  sudo apt do-release-upgrade | pastebinit        and past the url here
[09:32] <cfhowlett> sorry:   sudo do-release-upgrade | pastebinit
[09:34] <ShekharReddy> i didn't pastebin it
[09:34] <ShekharReddy> i will do manually
[09:34] <ShekharReddy> that prog is not there on the machine
[09:35] <cfhowlett> which prog?  cuz pastebinit is basic to all *buntus
[09:35] <ShekharReddy> yeah pastebin
[09:35] <ShekharReddy> what
[09:36] <cfhowlett> but no worries: sudo do-release-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:36] <aLeSD> hi there
[09:36] <alkisg> cfhowlett: pastebinit isn't preinstalled
[09:36] <ShekharReddy> seems like it is upgrading
[09:36] <aLeSD> I have a strange prob with ubuntu 17.10. I downlòoaded the net installer for qt. I run chmod +x ./<installer> and when I try to run it I get :
[09:37] <cfhowlett> alkisg, eh?  i've never installed it, but I've always had it
[09:37] <aLeSD> bash: ./qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online: No such file or directory
[09:37] <aLeSD> ??????
[09:37] <ShekharReddy> and will that take several hours really?
[09:37] <alkisg> cfhowlett: sounds strange, I never had it installed at all
[09:37] <ShekharReddy> and is there any data loss in the process
[09:37] <alkisg> cfhowlett: maybe you have it in a big apt install line that you run after your installations?
[09:38] <cfhowlett> alkisg, well unless it gets pulled in by my post install of restricted-extras
[09:38] <aLeSD> ls -l gives me the files
[09:38] <alkisg> Dunno; it's not there on normal installations or live cds though
[09:38] <aLeSD> but I can't run it
[09:39] <alkisg> aLeSD: what's the output of `file qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online` ?
[09:39] <aLeSD> alkisg, ./qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online: cannot open `./qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online' (No such file or directory)
[09:39] <alkisg> and of `ls -l qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online` ?
[09:39] <alkisg> aLeSD: no,  I said "file" in front of it
[09:39] <alkisg> I didn't say ./qt...
[09:39] <aLeSD> alkisg, asini@icaro:~/Downloads$ file ./qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online
[09:39] <aLeSD> ./qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online: cannot open `./qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online' (No such file or directory)
[09:39] <alkisg> aLeSD: why are you putting the ./ there?
[09:40] <alkisg> Just press qt<tab> and it will autocomplete the name
[09:40] <alkisg> file qt<tab>
[09:40] <aLeSD> file qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online
[09:40] <aLeSD> qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online: cannot open `qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online' (No such file or directory)
[09:40] <alkisg> aLeSD: well then the file isn't there
[09:40] <alkisg> Run ls -l instead
[09:40] <alkisg> ls -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:41] <aLeSD> asini@icaro:~/Downloads$ ls -l
[09:41] <aLeSD> total 33468
[09:41] <aLeSD> -rwxrwxr-x 1 asini asini 34258540 gen  7 10:26 qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online.run
[09:41] <alkisg> aLeSD: see, it has a .run in the end which you're ommitting
[09:41] <aLeSD> I am on a fresh install with ext4 and encrypted home
[09:41] <alkisg> If you use tab, it will write it correctly for you
[09:41] <alkisg> So try again, ./qt<TAB>
[09:41] <alkisg> And it will complete the correct name and it will run
[09:41] <aLeSD> ops
[09:42] <aLeSD> asini@icaro:~/Downloads$ ./qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online.run
[09:42] <aLeSD> bash: ./qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online.run: No such file or directory
[09:42] <aLeSD> asini@icaro:~/Downloads$ file qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online.run
[09:42] <aLeSD> qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online.run: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=9ea4268c125432f5405461cf5eca892e1d351020, not stripped
[09:43] <aLeSD> I am downloading again the file
[09:44] <aLeSD> same stuff
[09:44] <alkisg> aLeSD: what's the download link?
[09:44] <alkisg> And, the output of `dpkg --print-architecture` ?
[09:45] <aLeSD> I am on amd64
[09:45] <aLeSD> https://www.qt.io/download-thank-you
[09:46] <aLeSD> but you have to go in dowload the opnsource version
[09:46] <aLeSD> I tried 64bits and 32bits version
[09:46] <alkisg> aLeSD: ok, let's try this:
[09:46] <alkisg> cd /tmp; wget https://download.qt.io/archive/online_installers/2.0/qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online.run; chmod +x qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online.run; ./qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online.run
[09:47] <aLeSD> alkisg, same stuff
[09:47] <alkisg> Can you copy/paste ALL your screen now, and put it to pastebin?
[09:47] <aLeSD> is ti the filesystem ?
[09:48] <alkisg> Starting from the cd commands, up to the end
[09:48] <aLeSD> https://pastebin.com/Kn6EcftQ
[09:49] <alkisg> aLeSD: you didn't use the cd command at all
[09:49] <alkisg> Please copy/paste the exact command I gave you
[09:49] <aLeSD> if it works it is the encryption ?
[09:50] <alkisg> You can cancel the installer. Just run it, it's faster than assuming things
[09:50] <aLeSD> https://pastebin.com/X11k5UZS
[09:50] <aLeSD> however I have / on a ext4 clear
[09:51] <aLeSD> and /home on encrypted ext4
[09:51] <alkisg> aLeSD: try this now: dash -c /tmp/qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online.run
[09:55] <alkisg> It may be a problem with your PATH or with bash's hashing. Anyway bbl :)
[09:56] <aLeSD> asini@icaro:/tmp$ dash -c /tmp/qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online.run
[09:56] <aLeSD> dash: 1: /tmp/qt-unified-linux-x86-2.0.5-2-online.run: not found
[09:56] <zarkos> hello
[09:57] <zarkos> do you want to be my friend ? :)
[09:57] <aLeSD> no ! I am f*****g mad actually
[09:57] <cfhowlett> zarkos, ubuntu support channel here.  go elsewhere for friends
[09:58] <zarkos> where can i download a version of ubuntu that accept ryzen cpu ?
[09:58] <aLeSD> it is not possible something like this
[09:59] <aLeSD> I mean ... fresh install and it si not working
[10:00] <aLeSD> I have to turn back to 16.04
[10:01] <cfhowlett> 16.04 is LTS = highly recommended
[10:01] <judicaell> exit
[10:01] <aLeSD> 18.04 will be LTS ?
[10:01] <cfhowlett> yes
[10:02] <aLeSD> it will inherit from 17.10 ?
[10:02] <cfhowlett> "inherit"???
[10:02] <aLeSD> sorry ... I am a c++ developer
[10:03] <zarkos> nice
[10:05] <aLeSD> why only the run file doesn'ty work ... I just downloaded a entire git repos into my home ... and I can access to the files
[10:05] <aLeSD> could it be the Qt file ?
[10:06] <andre> h...
[10:06] <aLeSD> maybe qt is beed hacked
[10:08] <dn`> while doing a netinstall with a preseed file, is there an option to set ‘GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash”’ to ‘GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=“”?
[10:27] <aLeSD> alkisg, have you tried on your machine ?
[10:30] <trincyolo> Hi all, I have some imput method conflict that I could use a little help understanding.
[10:31] <trincyolo> I'm getting this message when I click on the Keyboard icon: `Available input methods: ibus xim
[10:31] <trincyolo> Unless you really need them all, please make sure to install only one input method tool.
[10:33] <stephan_> moin, wo oder wie stellt man ein das der screen sich nicht nach paar sekunden abdunkelt?
[10:33] <trincyolo> Then I click `okay`, Then it asks me: "Do you explicitly select the user configuration?" No is recommended. I select it and then It closes.
[10:33] <trincyolo> So I'm locked out of my keyboard settings
[10:33] <Cursarion> hi, can apt-get install a conflicting package in an alternate path? like /opt/
[10:33] <Cursarion> I'd like to install two versions of wine that are marked as conflicting
[10:34] <Cursarion> when I tried to install the other one, apt said it'll remove the one I have atm
[10:34] <stvn> yeeeehaaa
[10:45] <egrain> hi. mouse is working in bios and on other machine. has a consistency problem though. if i plug it in the box i want to use it on, it works for a second and then it doesn't anymore. i know i need a new mouse, but is there another solution for now? it's sunday and i live in the country side. so i can't buy one right now.
[10:45] <Cursarion> I can always put the files in /opt/ by hand, but that sort of defeats the purpose of having a package manager
[10:52] <Kon-> Is it true that Ubuntu is signed by Microsoft to allow Secure Boot with UEFI?
[10:53] <Kon-> Or rather, Ubuntu's GRUB implementation
[10:53] <Kon-> I just read something that claimed this and it would be neat if true. Almost everything else I've ever seen about UEFI says to disable Secure Boot
[11:00] <egrain> never mind. the mouse just works sometimes, sometimes it doesn't.
[11:00] <egrain> thanks anyway though.
[11:06] <Kon-> egrain, If there's a hardware problem with your mouse, the OS isn't going to fix it
[11:06] <Kon-> Does it work 100% of the time on the other machine?
[11:06] <egrain> Kon-, tell me about it. it just worked on the other machine a lot more often. so i thought i could at least get the same result here.
[11:11] <resat> Hello Guys
[11:11] <resat> Hey Guys
[11:12] <resat> Look At Me
[11:12] <resat> Hello World
[11:13] <cfhowlett> resat ubuntu support channel.  stay on topic please.  chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:13] <trincyolo> Hey all, I can't open im-config with out getting this conflict dialogue box
[11:13] <resat> Ok
[11:14] <zarkos> i can t run ubuntu on my amd ryzen 5 1600
[11:14] <trincyolo> how do I continue ?
[11:14] <resat> this is a exper
[11:14] <resat> i have got ubuntu pc
[11:14] <resat> raspberry pi 3
[11:15] <resat> this pc is a got slow
[11:15] <resat> can you help me please
[11:15] <resat> yes I can please a lot of commerce
[11:16] <resat> a future is card flat header
[11:19] <aLeSD> hey!
[11:19] <resat> Hwy dudes
[11:19] <aLeSD> I am on 16.04
[11:19] <resat> help me
[11:19] <aLeSD> same stuff!
[11:19] <resat> a future is card flat header
[11:19] <aLeSD> resat, what do u need ?
[11:20] <resat> yes I can please a lot of commerce
[11:20] <cfhowlett> resat, what is your spoken language please?
[11:20] <aLeSD> masybe it is an AI
[11:21] <cfhowlett> aLeSD, possibly.
[11:21] <resat> I should you stop pc
[11:21] <trincyolo> Please help with keyboard. Can't type unicode
[11:21] <sdfgsdf> why would anyone put an incoherent chatbot in here
[11:22] <aLeSD> training ?
[11:22] <cfhowlett> for the lulz I suppose
[11:22] <resat> please this pc is got a have put off keyboard
[11:22] <aLeSD> however ... something very wired with qt installer file
[11:32] <Hardrada> My screen brightness is going up and down randomly. What cani do to fix it ?
[11:39] <trincyolo> Hi all, I can't access my keyboard settings. I'm getting the same conflict dialogue box as this user: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/debian-chinese/h3xbIz2cCwk
[11:39] <trincyolo> any help deciphering this?
[11:42] <_eMaX_> hi
[11:42] <_eMaX_> I've an old ubuntu 12.04 LTS here - any ideas how to upgrade?
[11:42] <trincyolo> I've tried to select for IBus only and not XIM but still not working
[11:42] <eraserpencil> hey guys! i'm testing out kmail and kwallet prompts for my password. HOw do i reset my passsword? I couldnt find any gui in unity dash with "kde wallet" or "kwallet" searches, nor the same in CLI tab completions
[11:44] <brainwash> !eolupgrade
[11:44] <brainwash> _eMaX_: ^
[11:44] <brainwash> eraserpencil: I would ask in #kubuntu and/or #kde
[11:45] <eraserpencil> lets hope kubuntu has guys to help. kde send me here
[11:47] <brainwash> eraserpencil: they should at least be familiar with kmail and kwallet I'd think
[11:47] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:47] <brainwash> trincyolo: did you do this? "Try to run the ibus-daemon in the terminal, such as gnome-terminal,  it will tells you why ibus can not be run."
[11:48] <trincyolo> brainwash: I get this: :~$ ibus-daemon
[11:48] <trincyolo> current session already has an ibus-daemon.
[11:48] <trincyolo> y
[11:49] <drager> Hey, I can't find my phone when I plug it in via the USB-port. It's a android phone and my computer are running Ubuntu 16.04. `lsusb` wont list the phone. Any ideas? (The phone are listed with another computer running Ubuntu 16.04 though)
[11:49] <brainwash> trincyolo: and you've enabled "ibus-pinyin" in the Region and Language settings?
[11:50] <drager> The usb port works with other devices though
[11:50] <trincyolo> brainwash: I was worried that that was Chinese specific
[11:51] <brainwash> trincyolo: oh I see
[11:51] <brainwash> trincyolo: it certainly is
[11:51] <trincyolo> brainwash: in Language Support I've got Keyboard input method system set to IBus
[11:51] <trincyolo> brainwash: I'm not trying to change language. English is fine atm
[11:52] <brainwash> right
[11:53] <brainwash> trincyolo: which ubuntu release is that?
[11:53] <trincyolo> 16.?? LTS with the latest kernel
[11:53] <brainwash> ok
[11:54] <trincyolo> brainwash: Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS 64-bit
[11:54] <brainwash> should be fine. 17.10 may not work properly with ibus when the wayland session is being used
[11:54] <brainwash> that's why I asked
[11:54] <trincyolo> brainwash: may be because I have an en-au setting somewhere
[11:55] <trincyolo> brainwash: okay, don't know what that is but I have the same kernel at 17
[11:55] <brainwash> shouldn't matter
[11:55] <trincyolo> k
[11:56] <brainwash> sadly, not sure what to suggest
[11:56] <trincyolo> brainwash: damn
[11:56] <trincyolo> thanks all the same
[11:57] <alexey_> Hi all. Year starts funny. I see patches for Meltdown&Spectre will be available for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS for Linux 4.4. Is it means if I have Linux 4.10.x x86_64 I cant use this patch?
[11:57] <trincyolo> brainwash: I think this all started when I set my aspell dictionary to en-au for weechat
[11:58] <brainwash> trincyolo: that's a weechat specific setting though
[11:58] <trincyolo> yeah ...
[11:58] <brainwash> oh. you should test with a new user account
[11:59] <trincyolo> brainwash: okay. I don't have one though so kind of annoying
[11:59] <brainwash> you can create one
[11:59] <brainwash> can't you?
[11:59] <brainwash> just for testing purpose
[11:59] <trincyolo> okay I'll test
[12:00] <kostkon> alexey_, all the supported kernel versions will get the patches. 16.04.4 will soon have the 4.13 hwe kernel anyway.
[12:01] <Richard_Cavell> What is the gcc version in 17.10?  I'm on 16.04 and I'm running into trouble with my gcc version being too low
 thanks. I asked caz I see spec and care about kernel problem with Linux 4.10
[12:02] <kostkon> alexey_, np. 16.04 will be on 4.13 pretty soon i reckon
[12:02] <egrain> wifi doesn't want to connect,  but once i start firefox it connects instantly. any ideas?
[12:03] <trincyolo> brainwash: same deal. Maybe it happened when I installed gnome3
[12:03] <iench> hello everybody
[12:04] <iench> I am new on ubuntu
[12:04] <brainwash> trincyolo: did you try with the previous desktop environment yet?
[12:04] <iench> somebody can help me
[12:04] <brainwash> trincyolo: probably Unity, right?
[12:04] <brainwash> trincyolo: unless you've removed it
[12:04] <trincyolo> brainwash: i'll try now
[12:05] <brainwash> Richard_Cavell: 17.10 has gcc 7.2
[12:06] <alexey_> kostkon , pretty soon it is uncertain time :) so I prefer to patch asap
[12:06] <Richard_Cavell> brainwash: Thanks
[12:06] <iench_> hello everibody
[12:06] <trincyolo> brainwash: yep, it works in unity
[12:06] <Richard_Cavell> When are we getting patches for Spectre/Meltdown?  Is it 9 January?
[12:07] <kostkon> Richard_Cavell, that's the plan it seems
[12:07] <cfhowlett> could be it's top triage priority.
[12:07]  * Richard_Cavell is going to benchmark his machine before and after
[12:11] <brainwash> trincyolo: sadly, nothing related comes up when searching the web
[12:12] <zano> THE SOUND
[12:12] <zano> there is noise in it
[12:12] <trincyolo> brainwash: I know :( I'll just add my compose key from unity and come back another time. thanks for your help
[12:13] <brainwash> trincyolo: alright :)
[12:14] <RoBz> hey guys, if i went and installed 12.04 on my old macbook pro, it'd usually be straight forward enough to update to 17.10 from there right? the reason i ask is because there is a good page on the wiki for my particular mac and it instructs one to install 12.04
[12:14] <cfhowlett> no one should be suggesting you install a no longer supported OS, RoBz
[12:16] <RoBz> right but there is a thorough guide for getting it to work on this special hardware, if i updated it to 17.10 immediately after, would that not suffice?
[12:16] <RoBz> im fairly confident that if i go for 17.10 straight, it will not install correctly
[12:16] <cfhowlett> !mac | RoBz start with the mac page resources.  If that is where you started, then their stuff is seriously outdated.
[12:17] <RoBz> aiight thanks, yeah this mac is one of the mid-2009 ones, new OS X is no longer supported and snow leopard is too old to install some things on
[12:17] <drager> Hey, I can't find my phone when I plug it in via the USB-port. It's a android phone and my computer are running Ubuntu 16.04. `lsusb` wont list the phone. Any ideas? (The phone are listed with another computer running Ubuntu 16.04 though)
[12:18] <cfhowlett> interesting things were happening back in 2009 :)
[12:22] <brainwash> drager: I would check the terminal output of "dmesg"
[12:22] <brainwash> drager: there could be related entries
[12:23] <RoBz> drager: sorry if obvious but have you selected the option on your phone to send files over USB or such
[12:24] <varreza> hello every11
[12:24] <varreza> i need some help
[12:26] <drager> brainwash: Checking!
[12:26] <varreza> hello
[12:26] <varreza> i am new, how does this work? nobody is talking so whats the point
[12:27] <drager> RoBz: Yeah, I have set USB Debugging to true and USB configuration to MTP
[12:27] <BluesKaj> carif, just ask your question
[12:27] <BluesKaj> varreza, just ask your question
[12:28] <Ben64> drager: unplug it, wait 30 secs, plug it back in, wait a bit and then check for it in dmesg
[12:28] <BluesKaj> sorry carif, typeo+tab
[12:31] <lorddoskias> hello if i'm on 4.10 HWE 16.04 kernel will i be getting PTI?
[12:32] <Ben64> lorddoskias: no
[12:33] <drager> brainwash: Couldn't find anything useful :/
[12:33] <drager> Ben64: Will try that!
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> what's PTI
[12:33] <Ben64> the intel thingy
[12:34] <lorddoskias> and when 18.04 is released there is going to be a 4.15 HWE kernel for 16.04 as well? so presumably i should be able to update to that?
[12:34] <lorddoskias> (or of course revert to 4.4 )
[12:34] <Ben64> yes, no, 4.13 is available now and will be supported until august
[12:35] <Ben64> if you install linux-generic-hwe-16.04-edge you'll always be on the latest hwe
[12:35] <drager> Ben64: Wow, now it "popped" up :D
[12:35] <Ben64> drager: another genius solution by me!
[12:35] <Ben64> :P
[12:35] <drager> :D
[12:36] <drager> However, it didnt get any name in lsusb
[12:36] <Ben64> that's not too surprising
[12:36] <Ben64> mine shows up as Bus 004 Device 009: ID 22b8:2e81 Motorola PCS
[12:37] <drager> Alright
[12:37] <drager> brainwash, Ben64: Thanks for the help!
[12:37] <Ben64> np
[12:37] <lorddoskias> Ben64: i'm currently using : linux-generic-hwe-16.04
[12:37] <Ben64> lorddoskias: yeah 4.13 should be in there very soon, but you can get it now by using edge
[12:38] <trevorj> Hello, can someone help me understand why my builds for one of my PPAs all are due in a god awful 11+ hours to build when there are countless idle workers in launchpad? https://launchpad.net/~trevorjay/+archive/ubuntu/nyancat/+build/14221368
[12:38] <lorddoskias> but 4.13 doens't have mitigations, no?
[12:38] <Ben64> it will
[12:38] <lorddoskias> i don't see it here: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2018/01/04/ubuntu-updates-for-the-meltdown-spectre-vulnerabilities/
[12:38] <lorddoskias> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial) — Linux 4.4 (and 4.4 HWE)
[12:38] <trevorj> I'm guessing it must be something I'm doing oddly here
[12:39] <Ben64> lordcirth: hmm i saw it on another page
[12:39] <lorddoskias> there are upstream ports for 4.4, 4,9 and 4.14
[12:39] <Ben64> !kpti
[12:39] <lorddoskias> Ben64: perhaps you got confused by 3.13?
[12:40] <Ben64> oh it is there
[12:40] <Ben64> Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful) — Linux 4.13 HWE
[12:40] <lorddoskias> ah right
[12:40] <lorddoskias> my bad :)
[12:40] <Ben64> yeah i missed it too
[12:40] <Ben64> you'd expect it to be on 16.04's line
[12:40] <lorddoskias> yeah, okay, thanks a lot :)
[12:40] <Ben64> no problem
[12:41] <lorddoskias> so not all is lost then
[12:41] <Ben64> nope, everything is fine-ish
[12:45] <V7> hey all :)
[12:45] <V7> Is it okay when dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc: https://i.imgur.com/tkRnsZh.png ?
[12:46] <V7> It's written under restore|grub section here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR so
[12:54] <fraktor> I'm using Ubuntu GNOME (at least, that's what I installed), but I'm mostly using i3 as my window manager, compton as my compositor, etc. I looked at memory usage, and gnome shell is taking up quite a bit of memory. How can I stop using gnome shell, since I'm no longer using gnome?
[12:56] <V7> ... I get an error "device node not found" while grub-installer /dev/sda
[12:56] <V7> Is it okay ?
[13:00] <nojiatronz> hello
[13:00] <nojiatronz> guys need a hand working out why my file copy is taking so long on 16.04
[13:01] <nojiatronz> happy to use terminal just teach me pls
[13:01] <brainwash> fraktor: can't you select the i3wm session from the login screen?
[13:01] <nojiatronz> what u mean
[13:02] <nojiatronz> i am copying 2G file from internal to usb and its taking for ever to finish
[13:02] <nojiatronz> it does eventuallly but takes a long time
[13:02] <brainwash> try with the terminal command "cp"
[13:02] <nojiatronz> can we look at processes on terminal logs or what ever and see if anything is wrong with my sys
[13:03] <brainwash> the command "iotop" gives you info about current I/O activities
[13:04] <nojiatronz> will that show usb copy
[13:04] <nojiatronz> live
[13:04] <brainwash> certainly
[13:04] <nojiatronz> cool
[13:04] <brainwash> with "top" you can see the CPU usage
[13:05] <nojiatronz> would you extect a 2G file to take around 10-15mins and finish %99 then hang for the last minute part
[13:05] <brainwash> I could be slow due the file system on the USB device
[13:05] <nojiatronz> SSD to older usb (2.0)
[13:05] <brainwash> like, NTFS may be slower
[13:05] <nojiatronz> Fat 32
[13:06] <brainwash> ok
[13:06] <nojiatronz> using GA-870-A v 3.0
[13:06] <nojiatronz> quad core amd
[13:06] <nojiatronz> 3500
[13:06] <nojiatronz> i think
[13:06] <nojiatronz> cant member
[13:06] <brainwash> and the issue is specific to this particular system?
[13:07] <nojiatronz> yes
[13:07] <nojiatronz> well cant be certain but even windows is copying faster
[13:07] <brainwash> "dmesg" may print some USB related messages
[13:08] <brainwash> I gave you plenty of commands to work with
[13:08] <nojiatronz> do i need to read man for its use while i copy the file or just copy past and then run it from terminal
[13:08] <brainwash> now you gotta start debugging the issue
[13:08] <brainwash> it?
[13:08] <brainwash> you mean the copy command?
[13:08] <nojiatronz> soz dmsg
[13:09] <brainwash> dmesg is just dmesg
[13:09] <brainwash> ideally, use it after the copy operation
[13:10] <brainwash> "iotop" and "top" are for live monitoring
[13:11] <nojiatronz> are they options or terminal programs
[13:11] <nojiatronz> options for dmesg
[13:12] <nojiatronz> soz my terminology may be way off i am new to terminal and linux but learning
[13:13] <nojiatronz> how to save output of dmesg to file on /home/Desktop
[13:13] <brainwash> terminal
[13:14] <brainwash> dmesg > ~/Desktop/log.txt
[13:14] <nojiatronz> thanks
[13:16] <nojiatronz> is there a command to upload dmsg file here am using https://webchat/freenode
[13:16] <nojiatronz> not client
[13:19] <brainwash> maybe http://termbin.com/
[13:19] <brainwash> so it would be:  dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:20] <brainwash> or:  cat ~/Desktop/log.txt | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:21] <brainwash> or open the file with an text editor and copy&paste the content to https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[13:21] <V7> Hey all :)
[13:21] <V7> I get an error when update-grub: WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
[13:21] <V7> /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
[13:21] <brainwash> V7: isn't that a warning, and not an error?
[13:22] <brainwash> :)
[13:22] <V7> Nope I guess
[13:22] <V7> cause /dev/sda5 was encrypted
[13:22] <V7> Isn;t that could cause a problem  \?
[13:22] <brainwash> I wouldn't know
[13:23] <brainwash> did you search the internet?
[13:23] <V7> ofc
[13:23] <V7> i.e https://askubuntu.com/questions/745218/ubuntu-wont-boot-because-of-lvmetad
[13:23] <V7> Btw I don't remember would I use lvm or not
[13:23] <V7> 99% that not
[13:24] <nojiatronz> done pasted it to pastebin
[13:24] <nojiatronz> ubuntu
[13:24] <nojiatronz> can u see anything weird with my system
[13:25] <brainwash> nojiatronz: you gotta share the link first
[13:26] <BluesKaj> nojiatronz, copy the pastebin url and paste it here
[13:26] <nojiatronz> i have the uploaded to Ubuntu pastebin how do i share it
[13:26] <nojiatronz> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26339485/
[13:26] <nojiatronz> is this it
[13:27] <nojiatronz> copy paste addy into this
[13:27] <PissWizard> why does updating a program not update it to the version shown in the software center's reviews?
[13:27] <nojiatronz> brb
[13:27] <nojiatronz> thank you very much for ur help so far
[13:28] <PissWizard> Is there some way I can get VLC updated to the one on their website of 2.2.8 instead of 2.2.2?
[13:30] <TJ-> !info vlc bionic | PissWizard  ... the current in-development 18.04 has a later version, you could run that in an LXD container
[13:31] <brainwash> nojiatronz: https://askubuntu.com/questions/832394/what-does-this-error-mean
[13:32] <PissWizard> I don't know what any of that means. is 18.04 the current version of Ubuntu?
[13:33] <brainwash> I think you can install the current stable VLC version via snap
[13:33] <irisf> https://thepasteb.in/p/k5hYBEMj7DLiE
[13:33] <TJ-> PissWizard: it's the in-development version due for release in April
[13:33] <PissWizard> is snap the software manager?
[13:34] <PissWizard> my software never updates. it's always old and busted.
[13:34] <brainwash> it's a packaging platform
[13:34] <brainwash> so
[13:34] <brainwash> sudo snap install vlc
[13:34] <nojiatronz> im back
[13:34] <irisf> hello this is my problem   : https://thepasteb.in/p/k5hYBEMj7DLiE
[13:35] <brainwash> irisf: what exactly?
[13:35] <PissWizard> .... huh.... well I don't see an update/upgrade option so... let's see what happens when I install this even though I already have VLC installed.
[13:35] <ikonia> irisf: your OS is not supported
[13:36] <ikonia> irisf: you "downgraded" from 14.04.5 to 14.04.1 that is not supported as the bot told you
[13:37] <nojiatronz> um im sorry but what does that link mean for me and my slow copy times i dont understand how it pertains to me can u explain please
[13:38] <nojiatronz> is there any reason to think i can get better copy times if i fix anything on my system
[13:38] <irisf> ikonia  : yes
[13:38] <nojiatronz> do i need to update my kernel downgrad?
[13:38] <irisf> ikonia  : what do i do  ?
[13:39] <ikonia> irisf: re-install with a supported configuration
[13:39] <PissWizard> oh this is fun. now I have VLC in my list of programs twice.
[13:39] <brainwash> nojiatronz: the linked site mentions that these kernel messages should have no impact
[13:39] <brainwash> nojiatronz: the ones found at the very bottom of your dmesg log
[13:40] <brainwash> PissWizard: does the new entry work? if yes, which version is that?
[13:42] <V7> So ... an error: https://i.imgur.com/LDaqJXj.jpg and the partitions: https://i.imgur.com/anpipgg.jpg. As you see storages are mounted, but apt says read only filesystem btw I've seen some strange fails when it has booting like "[FAILED] LXD Service not started" etc ... what's it would cause ?
[13:43] <brainwash> nojiatronz: well, I would suggest that you download either ubuntu 17.10 or 18.04 (which is the current development release), boot into live mode from an USB device, and then try to reproduce the issue
[13:43] <PissWizard> ah this is fun. I get this new version of VLC installed with that snap thing, and it doesn't crash in the video I play like Parole Media Player, but the framerate is garbage for some reason and it flickers occasionally. this is crazy.
[13:44] <PissWizard> thanks for telling me about that snap thing though.
[13:44] <nojiatronz> thanks
[13:44] <brainwash> PissWizard: could it be due to hardware acceleration?
[13:44] <nojiatronz> really appreciate all ur help
[13:44] <brainwash> PissWizard: you can enable/disable it in the VLC settings
[13:45] <brainwash> PissWizard: would suggest asking in #vlc also
[13:54] <rear> ikonia:   :)
[14:10] <promille> clear
[14:10] <promille> sorry, wrong chat :)
[14:11] <punyahere> Is there an Ubuntu Telegram chat as well, in addition to the one here?
[14:12] <parsa2820> Hello
[14:12] <punyahere> Hi @parsa2820
[14:12] <oerheks> punyahere, only kubuntu gives that service, AFAIK
[14:13] <punyahere> gives the service of a Telegram chat?
[14:13] <punyahere> I won't count a chat as a service, hence the question :)
[14:13] <cmihai> What was the name of the online unofficial Ubuntu FAQ / Guide / Wiki that contained a list of apps / backup tools, media, etc?
[14:13] <oerheks> support-service, https://community.kde.org/Telegram
[14:14] <parsa2820> I have problem with Ubuntu network icon. It does not show the current network status It is a question mark always. even when I am online.
[14:14] <oerheks> err .. https://telegram.me/kubuntu_support
[14:16] <TheSilentLink> hi how do I get clementine to play alac?
[14:16] <TheSilentLink> It says I'm missing a gstreamer plugin
[14:17] <punyahere> Do you mean "FLAC?"
[14:17] <oerheks> alac - apple lossless .. if that is a drm file, i guess not?
[14:18] <punyahere> Oh, alac is a format as well. Didn't know thhat
[14:18] <TheSilentLink> yes apple lossless
[14:18] <oerheks> i had to look it up, too :-)
[14:18] <punyahere> :P
[14:18] <punyahere> I had the same issue you're having with FLAC thhough
[14:18] <punyahere> A reinstall strangely fixed it
[14:18] <punyahere> If it doesn't work, turn it off and on xD
[14:18] <TheSilentLink> punyahere: a reinstall off?
[14:19] <cmihai> I think it was http://ubuntuguide.org/ but it's gone
[14:19] <oerheks> punyahere, please give serious answers, reinstall/on-off is so retarded
[14:20] <punyahere> reinstall of clementine
[14:22] <TheSilentLink> punyahere: wow thanks it fixed it!
[14:22] <punyahere> :) glad to be of help!
[14:23] <oerheks> huh?
[14:23] <TheSilentLink> oerheks: reinstall fixed it lol
[14:24] <punyahere> oerheks: By "reinstall," I meant removing and installing clementine.
[14:26] <oerheks> i understand, but reinstall is unlogical to me, in this case ..
[14:28] <cmihai> https://web.archive.org/web/20170712120820/http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Trusty nevermind, found it. Looks like it's been down for a year or so. Weird.
[14:29] <punyahere> oerheks: It is unlogical, that's why I said it was weird lol
[14:29] <Night__> hey
[14:32] <punyahere> Hi there!
[14:33] <IhrFussel> When I try to install awk on my root server it tells me to choose between those packages: original-awk:i386 2012-12-20-5  original-awk 2012-12-20-5  mawk:i386 1.3.3-17ubuntu2  gawk:i386 1:4.1.3+dfsg-0.1  mawk 1.3.3-17ubuntu2  gawk 1:4.1.3+dfsg-0.1 ... which one is the standard awk?
[14:33] <|Night|> I'm stuggleing with realvnc, when ever i conenct after ugprade to 17.10 i get a black screen
[14:34] <newbiw> Hi Guys.. are there any simple installations instructions to install ubuntu 16.04 from a usb drive
[14:35] <newbiw> for pretty naive fellows
[14:36] <punyahere> newbiw:https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-the-easy-way/ should be helpful
[14:37] <punyahere> The "hard" part is creating a bootable pen drive, installation is pretty standard and everything is explained on the installation screens as well.
[14:37] <cmihai> IhrFussel: I would suggest using `gawk`, it's GNU AWK and has the most 'features' (aka GNU extensions).
[14:37] <punyahere> I'd use gawk as well!
[14:40] <misc11> hi, im using an older system. it was a pentium 4 system, but i upgraded to pentium d (64bit). the system is limited to 4gb of ram. now i have 4gb of ram installed and a gpu with 2gb vram. the question is will the system limit of 4gb include the vram? (should be memory mapped, right? - shared virtual memory space?) and if so, how will the memory be split between main ram and vram?  or does anyone know where i could go
[14:40] <misc11> to get help with that?
[14:42] <oerheks> misc11, if you type 'free' in terminal, what number of total ram does it give?
[14:42] <Guest78538> hey guys
[14:42] <Guest78538> how can i see my last chat messages in hexchat ?
[14:43] <misc11> oerheks im not on that machine right now, but i remember it shows 3000 - sth as available memory
[14:43] <oerheks> Guest78538, settings > pref > logging, if you enabled this, you can open the data folder
[14:43] <punyahere> Guest78538: Do you have a bouncer set up?
[14:44] <Guest78538> i didntt enable it before
[14:45] <Guest78538> punyahere, no
[14:45] <oerheks> Guest78538, oke, then no, no logs from last chats
[14:45] <oerheks> * unless the service stored the logs
[14:45] <Guest78538> omg
[14:45] <Guest78538> i really need to it
[14:46] <Guest78538> the person that i talked is offline
[14:46] <Guest78538> and i need to some messages
[14:46] <Guest78538> there is no way ?
[14:46] <dv`> it's lost, like tears in the rain
[14:46] <oerheks> Guest78538, sorry, it is gone
[14:46] <akik> Guest78538: you can read the logs from ubuntu irc logs web site, but no private messages there
[14:48] <EriC^^> misc11: i dont think the gpu memory will be used as memory for programs
[14:49] <punyahere> Using a bouncer / IRCCloud is really the only solution you have to prevent similar scenarios in the future, @Guest78538
[14:51] <misc11> EriC^^: no, of course not, but the memory space is shared, right?   so if the system is limited to 4gb and i have 4+2gb installed, not everything can be addressed, right?
[14:51] <oerheks> punyahere, 'only'?? no, if he enabled logs, or check the service for stored logs..
[14:52] <EriC^^> misc11: i thought you said you have 64bit cpu?
[14:52] <Krennic> is too laggy to download ubuntu to a usb stick  about 1 hour is too much to laggy
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> Krennic: start from the begiining, what are you trying?
[14:52] <punyahere> oerheks: I'm comparatively new to IRC, do the logs display personal messages as well?
[14:53] <misc11> EriC^^ yes, a pentium d.... memory controller is in the chipset, so its still limited
[14:53] <oerheks> punyahere, no
[14:53] <oerheks> but hexchat can
[14:53] <EriC^^> misc11: oh, i think you know about this than myself then
[14:54] <Krennic> lotus trying to get a ubuntu image for my other pc  in this pc i use windows 10 with the linux subsystem  and in that subsystem i use ubuntu but i want to install ubuntu in my other pc
[14:54] <akik> misc11: the 32-bit memory limit is per process, not per os instance
[14:54] <Krennic> so i need to put it in a usb stick
[14:54] <linuxlove> hey guys i need to get some information about mining with gpu in which channel i can ask for some informations ?
[14:54] <misc11> EriC^^ ok, thanks anyway :)
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> !usb | Krennic
[14:54] <Krennic> but is too laggy  takes to much an hour
[14:54] <EriC^^> misc11: no worries :)
[14:55] <Krennic> thanks
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> Krennic: are you burning an iso to usb right now? with what tool?
[14:55] <misc11> akik but i cant install more than 4gb in that system....  thats a limit of the memory controller
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> !alis | linuxlove
[14:55] <Krennic> rufus as i said im on windows 10 in this pc
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> linuxlove: ##hardware or #bitcoin perhaps
[14:56] <akik> misc11: i understand
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> Krennic: try universal usb installer
[14:57] <Krennic> ok thank you il try that
[14:57] <Krennic> i'll try that
[14:57] <oerheks> the usb tool ask for a password, maybe it is hiding under the window
[15:07] <blackbird1> Hi, the usb drive is not assigned to a /dev kernel.
[15:07] <blackbird1> These are the out put of some commands:
[15:08] <blackbird1> lsblk: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26340052/
[15:08] <oerheks> blackbird1, what is on that usb drive, ntfs/exfat?
[15:08] <blackbird1> lsusb -v: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26340063/
[15:08] <blackbird1> oerheks: fat32
[15:09] <blackbird1> lshw: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26340068/
[15:09] <blackbird1> All the other usb are detected.
[15:10] <blackbird1> This one "Device 006: ID 058f:1234 Alcor Micro Corp. Flash Drive" is not
[15:10] <oerheks> maybe there are errors on that drive, that prevents mounting?
[15:11] <blackbird1> oerheks: lsusb -v
[15:11] <blackbird1> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 058f:1234 Alcor Micro Corp. Flash Drive
[15:11] <blackbird1> Couldn't open device, some information will be missing
[15:11] <blackbird1> What could be the missing information.
[15:11] <blackbird1> ?
[15:12] <oerheks> run fsck.vfat https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting#dosfstools_-_FAT12.2C_FAT16_and_FAT32_.28vfat.29_filesystem
[15:15] <blackbird1> oerheks: I don't know the path to run fsck.vfat.
[15:15] <akik> blackbird1: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[15:16] <akik> blackbird1: does the device work in some other machine?
[15:16] <oerheks> i read more issues with that alcor usb.
[15:17] <blackbird1> akik: $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[15:17] <blackbird1> fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdc: No medium found
[15:17] <blackbird1>  
[15:17] <blackbird1> akik: no it dosen't
[15:18] <akik> blackbird1: that command should've displayed the partition table of the device. maybe there's no partition added to it yet or it uses the whole device as the file system
[15:19] <akik> blackbird1: so it could be: sudo fsck.vfat /dev/sdc
[15:19] <akik> blackbird1: although that error is a bit weird
[15:20] <blackbird1> I remember that I pasted accidently the $ĤOME directory on it, and since that time I have this problem !
[15:20] <blackbird1> sudo fsck.vfat /dev/sdc
[15:20] <blackbird1> open: No medium found
[15:27] <newbiew> which option to select in this boot menu
[15:27] <newbiew> usb hardrive or usb hardive(UEFI)
[15:27] <newbiew> i am installing ubuntu from usb
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> newbiew: single or dualboot?
[15:28] <newbiew> single
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> newbiew: have you disabled secureboot & fastboot in your bios?
[15:29] <newbiew> disabled secure boot
[15:29] <newbiew> lotuspsychje:
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> newbiew: fastboot also, legacy
[15:31] <newbiew> lotuspsychje:  is fastboot and legacy support the same
[15:31] <newbiew> it is enabled BTW
[15:32] <aot> anyone has idea how long this takes for 2TB ext harddisk: "sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdd1 bs=1M"
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> newbiew: allright reboot and start ubuntu setup mate
[15:33] <strive> aot: Become root, then add "time" in front of the dd command: time dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdd1 bs=1M
[15:33] <strive> aot: When it's complete, you'll know how long it took.
[15:33] <aot> strive: yes, but the point was if anyone knows if this kind of operation takes 1h, 12h or 200h
[15:34] <akik> aot: it takes a very long time. if you just want to zero it, use /dev/zero instead of /dev/urandom
[15:34] <Krennic> /b 33
[15:34] <aot> akik: how long could it take with zero instead
[15:34] <strive> lol.
[15:34] <cookmod> compiz keeps crashing when i click the search button
[15:34] <strive> aot: That depends how big your drive/partition is.
[15:34] <aot> 2TB ntfs
[15:35] <strive> LONG time.
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:35] <strive> aot: I'm curious, why does this need to be done?
[15:35] <aot> strive: im selling it
[15:35] <strive> aot: Ah, cool.
[15:35] <TJ-> aot: a long time; are you wanting to randomise the sectors before using block-device encryption ?
[15:35] <cookmod> HELP ME GUYS
[15:35] <aot> i just want to somehow prevent that not just anyone could get my files :)
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: ask a question first
[15:36] <cookmod> lotuspsychje:
[15:36] <cookmod> i did
[15:36] <|Night|> I found my issue with nc, it was problem with x11 and Wayland
[15:36] <aot> maybe just format it without any systematic eration
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: then have some patience plz
[15:36] <cookmod> "compiz keeps crashing" my desktop keeps refreshing
[15:36] <TJ-> aot: there's a much faster way of doing it using luks/dm-crypt and /dev/zero
[15:36] <cookmod> T_T
[15:37] <cookmod> i hate ubuntu
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: start with details plz, ubuntu version, kernel version DE?
[15:37] <yeats> cookmod: probably not a great way to get actual help :-/
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> hey MonkeyDust
[15:37] <cookmod> 16.04
[15:37] <cookmod> unity
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: graphics card chipset & driver?
[15:38] <cookmod> lotuspsychje: dunno but it's old
[15:38] <strive> aot: There's something called Dban.
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> choguk: better not join irc as root mate
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: have you tried a lightdm restart yet?
[15:39] <cookmod> nah
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: try plz? at wich point compiz crash? can you proceed? what happens?
[15:41] <cookmod> lotuspsychje: crashes when i click anything on the side bar (search, firefox)
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: is your system up to date? check lsb_release -a plz
[15:41] <cookmod> how do i restart lightdm lol
[15:41] <cookmod> lsb_release -a
[15:41] <cookmod> oops
[15:42] <cookmod> Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: ok so far so good
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: now check sudo lshw -C video for chipset & driver= at bottom
[15:43] <TJ-> aot: this is how I do it (create a temporary encrypted device then write zeros into it, causes the disk surface to be randomised) "cryptsetup create temp1 /dev/sdXY --key-file /dev/random ; dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/temp1 bs=200M ; cryptsetup remove temp1"
[15:44] <cookmod> driver=i915
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: allright, try sudo service lightdm restart
[15:45] <shashikantdwived> hello friends
[15:45] <cookmod> lotuspsychje: oh but i also have lxde btw
[15:45] <|Night|> who wold you that @shashikantdwived
[15:45] <TJ-> cookmod: have you tested whether the issue is specific to your user account? Create a new user, log-out your regular user desktop, log-in to the new user profile, and see if you can reproduce the error
[15:45] <cookmod> TJ-: k ill try this too
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: you mixed flavors?
[15:46] <shashikantdwived> hlo tj
[15:46] <shashikantdwived> hello cookmod
[15:46] <cookmod> shashikantdwived: yo
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> shashikantdwived: do you have an ubuntu question?
[15:46] <shashikantdwived> so from when u are using linux
[15:47] <cookmod> lotuspsychje: well i just ran a command to install lxde DE alongside unity
[15:47] <cookmod> so i can choose between them
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> shashikantdwived: this channel is only for ubuntu support, no general chat here please
[15:47] <cookmod> because unity is so slow for me :(
[15:47] <shashikantdwived> ok
[15:47] <tueftler> tomreyn: FYI The first HDD are copied with success :)  Now i had connect the other one, these are readable without the commands directly - great
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: when compiz crashes, did you check the errors on the details?
[15:48] <shashikantdwived> so can anyone can explain me about shell scripting
[15:48] <TJ-> shashikantdwived: see https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/backup-shellscripts.html
[15:48] <cookmod> lotuspsychje: do i still run that lightdm restart command?
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: no crashes on lxde?
[15:48] <cookmod> lotuspsychje: haven't logged into lxde
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: try all tests suggested yes
[15:48] <MJCDwork> hey I cant get synergy to work
[15:49] <MJCDwork> even using quicksynergy
[15:49] <TJ-> shashikantdwived: also see hte tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting
[15:49] <MJCDwork> two identical ubuntu systems heh
[15:49] <shashikantdwived> ok thanku and bye
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> MJCDwork: tell us whats your purpose please?
[15:52] <cookmod> still not working
[15:53] <MJCDwork> lotuspsychje, to share mouse and keyboard
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: have you looked what kind of details the crash has?
[15:53] <MJCDwork> between two systems next to each other
[15:53] <MJCDwork> using Synergy
[15:53] <MJCDwork> or quicksynergy
[15:53] <MJCDwork> neither have worked
[15:53] <cookmod> lotuspsychje: well i don't see a crash report gui this time
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> MJCDwork: have you tryed the #synergy channel?
[15:53] <cookmod> so i can't check
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: ok so whats not working?
[15:54] <cookmod> lotuspsychje: same thing just this time it didn't pop up an error
[15:54] <cookmod> i'm going to create a new account and see if the same sstuff is happening k
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> allright try
[15:55] <ghostnik11> where is the file located in ubuntu that controls micro sd mounting?
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> !mount | ghostnik11
[15:56] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, so i could use mount to do it manually from terminal? okay will try
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: tell us what you trying to do please?
[15:56] <cookmod> btw is this the command to create new user
[15:56] <cookmod> sudo useradd -m -b /bin/bash testuser
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> !user | cookmod
[15:57] <TJ-> cookmod: "sudo adduser newusername"
[15:57] <cookmod> TJ kk
[15:57] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, i am trying to mount my micro sd card but i am not in ubuntu right now i am in android-x86 and wanted to see if i could just use the command b/c it doesn't come up automatically like in ubuntu. so i will try the command
[15:58] <cookmod> brb
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: #android for android issues mate
[15:58] <cookmod> oh is there a command to logout from terminal? because the button just crashes compiz XD
[15:59] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, yeah i know bro but some times they don't respond and i need to get that fixed b/4 i get back to school unless i will be screwed
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11: android doesnt work like ubuntu
[16:00] <cookmod> nevermind ill rebeoot :D
[16:00] <TJ-> cookmod: in that case if you have terminal just do "sudo systemctl restart lightdm.service"
[16:01] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje, yeah but isn't its base still ubuntu/linux/debian? its worth a shot i figure
[16:01] <cookmod> TJ-: thanks
[16:02] <TJ-> ghostnik11: the only thing Android shares with GNU/Linux distros is the Linux kernel; it's userspace is vastly different
[16:02] <TJ-> ghostnik11: and the Android kernel carries several customisations we don't have in the mainline kernel
[16:03] <hexnewbie> What program does one have to purge on Ubuntu to get rid of ‘System program error detected’?
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> hexnewbie: errors are there to get solved
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> hexnewbie: can you tell us what it says exactly?
[16:04] <hexnewbie> lotuspsychje: Is that a joke?
[16:04] <TJ-> hexnewbie: That's the crash reporter, because it finds a new report in /var/crash/, apport is the base of that
[16:04] <hexnewbie> lotuspsychje: For an error to be solved, there needs to be an actual error. I just get ‘System program error detected’.
[16:05] <jcerveira> I'm running the last release of Ubuntu in a laptop with 5th gen intel i7-5500U and 4GB DDR3L RAM (1,600 MHz) in a 1TB 5,400 rpm harddrive and graph AMD Radeon™ R7 M260 with 2GB dedicated VRAM, and sometimes it blocks for 15 to 20 segs and then starts moving again. Are those specs not enough to Ubuntu to work fine?
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: wich ubuntu?
[16:05] <TJ-> jcerveira: if it hangs there's possibly a hardware problem.
[16:06] <TJ-> jcerveira: first place to check is the kernel log using the "dmesg" command
[16:06] <hexnewbie> TJ-: I have only files from 2016 in /var/crash. Does that mean that I'm getting those popups for errors from 2016? I do get some auditd log entries in dmesg, I thought they were the cause of the popups
[16:06] <jcerveira> artfull, 17.10 lotuspsychje
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> hexnewbie: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: are you on the wayland session?
[16:07] <TJ-> hexnewbie: hmmm, that's possible. Are you able to capture a screenshot of the warning dialog so we have a chance of figuring out why/where it comes from?
[16:07] <hexnewbie> lotuspsychje: 14.04
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> hexnewbie: system up to date to latest?
[16:08] <TJ-> hexnewbie: usually the system crash reporter offers options to file/examine the crash in detail and file a bug report
[16:08] <hexnewbie> lotuspsychje: No. Just booted it up to apt-get upgrade it (hadn't been powered up in 2 months).
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> hexnewbie: lsb_release -a plz
[16:08] <hexnewbie> TJ-: Will get a screenshot when I reboot
[16:09] <jcerveira> lotuspsychje: yes
[16:09] <jcerveira> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26340449/
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: can you logout and compare with the xorg session please?
[16:09] <Aboey> please tell me the channel to join for ubun help
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> !support | Aboey
[16:09] <TJ-> jcerveira: reading it now
[16:10] <Aboey> is there any helpline channel for ubuntu in irc
[16:10] <alkisg> Aboey: this is it. Ask you question.
[16:11] <alkisg> *your
[16:11] <TJ-> jcerveira: nothing obvious as to cause, although I see the kernel adjusting itself due to something causing a delay (" perf: interrupt took too long (3182 > 3141)" )
[16:11] <cookmod> nah didn't work
[16:12] <TJ-> jcerveira: are you always doing the same thing when this happens (running the same application maybe) ?
[16:12] <TJ-> cookmod: failed for the new user too?
[16:12] <cookmod> oh i think i found a asubuntu post
[16:12] <cookmod> with a related question
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: what didnt work
[16:12] <Aboey> I have come acrrossed the ubuntu os in my adventure in to various OSes in youtube... so Iam interested in Ubuntu after watching the youtube video on Ubuntu
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> !download | Aboey
[16:12] <cookmod> https://askubuntu.com/questions/992353/ubuntu-16-04-jan-3-2018-update-causing-screen-access-issues
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: you can always test previous kernels
[16:13] <connor__> Hello
[16:13] <cookmod> guys go to my link
[16:13] <Aboey> I dont know anything outside MS-Windows, will I need to know programm languages or DOS like Ommand to use Ubuntu profeesionally??
[16:14] <connor__> Am I on the right channel to ask a technical question?
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> connor__: about ubuntu, yes
[16:14] <alkisg> connor__: yes
[16:14] <cookmod> btw i'm in lxde right now and everything's fine TJ-
[16:14] <jcerveira> TJ-: normaly using Firefox or Thunderbird. And sometimes, when it comes back, it shows up many times the letter I was pressing when it blocks (like for example "kkkkkkk" or "ttttt")
[16:15] <connor__> can I install the Ubuntu SDK on a raspberry Pi? When I run ubuntu-sdk from terminal it gives me an error.
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: perhaps unity doesnt like your intel graphics
[16:15] <cookmod> yeah it's old
[16:16] <TJ-> cookmod: when it crashes in Unity are you using Google Chrome/Chromium web browser?
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: but i didnt see much computers yet that dont like xenial..
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: give us your full pc specs plz?
[16:16] <alkisg> connor__: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntu-sdk says it's available for armhf, up to 16.04
[16:16] <alkisg> connor__: if you have 16.04, pastebin the output of sudo apt install ubuntu-sdk
[16:16] <cookmod> did you guys even go to the link i posted?
[16:16] <TJ-> jcerveira: I'm wondering if it's the SSD doing a TRIM operation on the file-system. Can you "pastebinit /etc/fstab" for us ?
[16:17] <connor__> It keeps reporting that it can't create a network bridge; errors with not inplemeted
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: it doesnt show your pc specs
[16:17] <TJ-> cookmod: not only the link, I'm trawling through compiz bug reports for anything that looks similar
[16:18] <cookmod> lotuspsychje: my pc is old af no point in posting specs
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: can you also test the xorg session for me, im testing few bugs xorg vs wayland atm
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: try us anyway...
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: cpu,ram,hd,
[16:19] <jcerveira> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26340500/
[16:19] <cookmod> nah the link tells it all.. it's a bug with compiz
[16:19] <connor__> What does that even mean? I understand how to configure lxd, but it's not implemented?
[16:20] <jcerveira> lotuspsychje: I will, but it happens sometimes, not allways, so it will take a while, probably
[16:20] <jcerveira> *always
[16:20] <TJ-> jcerveira: OK, so looks like it's not a TRIM operation - we'd see "discard" in the mount options
[16:21] <TJ-> jcerveira: the default TRIM is fired by a cron job about once a week
[16:22] <TJ-> jcerveira: there was a subtle hint there may be an issue with the AMD GPU driver not finding functionality it was expecting whilst configuring the GPU, but no sign that is causing ongoing issues in dmesg. Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for further clues on that front
[16:23] <jcerveira> TJ-: that log will work with wayland ?
[16:23] <Leonidax> hello
[16:23] <TJ-> jcerveira: Aha, nope!
[16:24] <qwip> How can I change my default terminal in KDE Plasma? I have already tried changing it from Settings > Default Applications > Terminal
[16:24] <TJ-> jcerveira: I'm not sure where wayland writes it's logs to either - anyone else know?
[16:24] <cookmod> https://askubuntu.com/questions/992536/the-launcher-disappears-when-the-mouse-pointer-is-positioned-on-it-what-should-i?noredirect=1&lq=1
[16:24] <jcerveira> TJ-: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: cannot open `/var/log/Xorg.0.log' (No such file or directory)
[16:24] <TJ-> jcerveira: there's an idea; could you test whether the stall occurs using Xorg? That'd be a useful indicator of where to focus the investigation
[16:26] <cookmod> guys here's a youtube clip of the same thing happening to me :D
[16:26] <cookmod> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at3NeuAGoQA&feature=youtu.be
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: systems specs?
[16:26] <TJ-> cookmod: next time it happens can you pastebin the Xorg log? /var/log/Xorg.0.log  or possibly /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> qwip: perhaps the #kubuntu guys might know that one
[16:27] <qwip> lotuspsychje, they are not able to help me with this
[16:27] <cookmod> anyhow incase other people come here with questions related to mine
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> qwip: ok no sweat, ask again and idle here
[16:27] <cookmod> just tell them to get lxde :D
[16:27] <qwip> How can I change my default terminal in KDE Plasma? I have already tried changing it from Settings > Default Applications > Terminal
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> cookmod: we wouldnt know to compare, because we dont know your system specs
[16:30] <TJ-> cookmod: there have been no updates to Compiz on 16.04 since August 2016, so something else that has been updated is causing it. I'd check in /var/log/apt/history.log for the list of packages recently installed/upgraded
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> qwip: doesnt work here? https://userbase.kde.org/File:Settings-default-applications.png
[16:31] <qwip> lotuspsychje, as i have already said. I have already did that but it didn't worked
[16:32] <Aboey> what is the difference of Ubuntu OSes from between these two websites:
[16:32] <Aboey> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[16:32] <Aboey> and
[16:32] <Aboey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[16:34] <hexnewbie> lotuspsychje and TJ-: https://imgur.com/k0IPhaz  is the error message, https://paste.debian.net/1003894/ is lsb_release -a (was the same before apt-get dist-upgrade)
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> Aboey: whats your end goal with ubuntu? long time support or newer/testing purpose?
[16:34] <LinuxHack3r> I just setup an SSH server and generated private/public keys from a client. Question: Would it theoretically be possible for a man in the middle attack if I was in public and someone captured transmissions while I was authenticating with my private key?
[16:34] <hexnewbie> The two ‘error’ ‘messages’ are the same, by the way
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> hexnewbie: click on report now plz
[16:35] <hexnewbie> And why would I do such a thing? I don't want to report
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> LinuxHack3r: try #openssh
[16:35] <Aboey> lotuspsychie: for test purpose:
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> hexnewbie: to help your system and the community?
[16:36] <LinuxHack3r> lotuspsychje: thanks. hungout around #ssh for a while, perhaps openssh will actually have active people?
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> LinuxHack3r: large channel yes
[16:36] <laptop> hi anyone know if there is a channel for expats
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> !alis | laptop
[16:37] <laptop> thank you
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> Aboey: so you can choose 17.10 or help test 18.04 development version if you like
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> Aboey: do you have a lenovo?
[16:38] <Aboey> no I am using HP
[16:38] <Aboey> HP AMD PU
[16:38] <hexnewbie> lotuspsychje: I don't see how submitting potentially sensitive information, whose nature is withheld from me, will help my system.
[16:38] <cookmod> TJ-: oh yeah i wrote down the gui error message "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV"
[16:38] <ghostnik11> what is the command to find all devices plugged into ubuntu, is it lsusb?
[16:38] <Aboey> i mean ADMCPU
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> Aboey: ok, 16.04.3 for long time support, 17.10 non-lts with gnome, or 18.04 development branch
[16:39] <alkisg> If I put an SSD to Ubuntu 12.04, which AFAIK doesn't have autotrim, and use it for years... is there a possibility that writes will become e.g. 100 times slower? Because I'm seeing extreme slowness which doesn't show up in dmesg, top etc...
[16:39] <alkisg> For example, `apt-get install debsums` has been installing for 20 minutes now :(
[16:39] <hexnewbie> TJ-: Yeah, thanks. It is apport. I guess I will purge it now. :)
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> hexnewbie: reporting a bug isnt revealing personal info
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: what kind of ssd?
[16:40] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: Model: ATA Samsung SSD 850 (scsi)
[16:40] <hexnewbie> lotuspsychje: Yeah, because when I report a bug I usually see (or even compose) the report, and can inspect the backtrace (if one is present) and system info. Here I'm being told nothing and offered to submit.
[16:40] <hexnewbie> Not going to happne
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: pro?
[16:41] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: no idea, that's what parted -l shows, would lshw have more info?
[16:41] <TJ-> cookmod: there are a lot of SIGSEGV bugs, see if you can find one that sounds similar from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bugs?field.searchtext=SIGSEGV
[16:42] <alkisg> (running things takes minutes, so I can't quickly test a lot of commands :D)
[16:43] <Aboey> lotuspsychie: thank you!
[16:45] <jcerveira> TJ- and lotuspsychje: i'm using xorg now and did not blocked yet
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: how much data had the ssd filled?
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: lshw disk shows this on mine:  version: 2B6Q
[16:46] <TJ-> jcerveira: how predictable was it previously? 5 minutes, 30 minutes?
[16:47] <jcerveira> TJ-: it wasn't predictable :|
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: give your system some work on xorg :p
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: 10 windows, apps,browsers,YT
[16:49] <cookmod> :)
[16:49] <cookmod> linux is so fun
[16:50] <hexnewbie> Wait, so this is for the reports in /var/crash, so if I refuse to report a crash, I'm pestered for the same report over and over until I report? That's downright coercion.
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: the 850 pro doesnt need a firmware, so im guessing other factors
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> hexnewbie: and error to the system, is supposed to get solved by reporting
[16:51] <cookmod> TJ-: how do i send you the logs you wanted to see?
[16:51] <hexnewbie> I guess apport has a lot to learn from drkonqi
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> !paste | cookmod
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> hexnewbie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[16:56] <TJ-> hexnewbie: apport should only tell you once about reports in /var/crash. You can simply delete those crash dumps though
[16:56] <cookmod> TJ-: do you want to check out the logs yes or no? :P
[16:57] <TJ-> cookmod: see what lotuspsychje said ^^^^
[16:59] <alkisg> (06:46:16 μμ) lotuspsychje: alkisg: how much data had the ssd filled? => I think about half of it. I just tried to reboot it but it didn't come up... I'll ping the local school teacher :/
[16:59] <alkisg> (ty :))
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: got other system specs of that machine?
[17:03] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: I think it's an old quad core, that was working fine for years until this extreme slowness started a few days ago
[17:03] <alkisg> The teacher said that reboots need about 30 minutes :(
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: hmmz
[17:04] <alkisg> I'm looking to salvage what I can, and install either 16.04 or 18.04...
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: i would not suspect the ssd
[17:04] <TJ-> alkisg: did you check SMART health ?
[17:04] <alkisg> Root is in an hdd, and /home in an ssd
[17:04] <alkisg> TJ-: I couldn't do it yet, due to that slowness... I asked for a live cd and I hope I'll be able to do it from there
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: ah mechanical hd going faulty?
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: im still running very old machines with 850 pro without issues
[17:06] <TJ-> alkisg: will it allow switching to another tty so you don't need to wait ?
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: but that 12.04 isnt esm i presume right
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: still no blocks?
[17:09] <jcerveira> lotuspsychje: yes, still no blocks
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: could you check my bug, if you experience any of these? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1740146
[17:13] <vin_> hello
[17:13] <alkisg> (07:06:14 μμ) TJ-: alkisg: will it allow switching to another tty so you don't need to wait ? => I have many shells using epoptes.org but they all lag, e.g. dmesg may take 2 minutes...
[17:13] <jcerveira> lotuspsychje: I don't have lag, just sudden blocks
[17:13] <vin_> where is everybody from
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> !chat | vin_
[17:13] <TJ-> alkisg: i'd concur with lotuspsychje ; if the root fs is on the HDD there's probably disk I/O errors due to a failing disk
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: yeah but if its not happening on xorg, it might be related?
[17:14] <vin_> i am new to ubuntu i am trying to install google chrome
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> vin_: chromium-browser is the ubuntu alternative
[17:15]  * alkisg wonders if the fs is remounted ro, and errors no longer show up in syslog... but they should still appear in dmesg, right?
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> vin_: sudo apt install chromium-browser for a fast browse experience
[17:15] <TJ-> alkisg: correct
[17:15] <vin_> then what do i do
[17:15] <vin_> does it open automaticlaly
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> vin_: after you install a package, you can launch the icon
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> vin_: or start it from terminal
[17:16] <vin_> how do i do that
[17:16] <vin_> from the terminal
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> vin_: just type the name of the package to launch
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> vin_: chromium-browser in your case
[17:16] <vin_> ok i am going to try thanks for the help this is my first time ever using ubuntu or linux
[17:16] <alkisg> TJ-: no errors in dmesg whatsoever :(
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> vin_: welcome to the ubuntu community
[17:17] <TJ-> alkisg: something's eaten up all memory and it's using swap on HDD?
[17:17] <jcerveira> lotuspsychje: it just happened, because I opened several tabs in firefox at once. But music (from youtube in of the tabs) never stopped
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: yeah good idea from TJ- to test htop stuff or so
[17:18] <vin_> thank you very much,
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: so not fixxed in xorg?
[17:18] <TJ-> jcerveira: is it only Firefox that froze, or then entire desktop?
[17:18] <vin_> ok so i just downloaded it and it said unable to fetch some archives
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> vin_: have you added ppa's to your system?
[17:19] <vin_> no?
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> vin_: tryed a sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade first?
[17:20] <jcerveira> TJ-: only the mouse moves
[17:20] <vin_> trying now
[17:20] <TJ-> jcerveira: can you Ctrl+Alt+F2 and log-in to a console?
[17:21] <TJ-> jcerveira: if so, then run "top" and see if any process is eating the CPU
[17:21] <TJ-> jcerveira: if not, check the Xorg log for recent stall/errors/abnormalities with tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[17:21] <dziki> hi
[17:22] <dziki> what's the best virtualization software (free/open source) for Linux/Ubuntu except for Oracle VirtualBox?
[17:22] <jcerveira> TJ-: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: cannot open `/var/log/Xorg.0.log' (No such file or directory)
[17:22] <dziki> it would be best if it works with Vagrant
[17:23] <TJ-> jcerveira: hmm, this is an Xorg session isn't it?
[17:23] <akik> dziki: ubuntu includes virt-manager which is somewhat similar to virtualbox
[17:23] <TJ-> jcerveira: check if it's got a different name with "ls -latr /var/log/Xorg*"
[17:23] <dziki> akik: thanks, I will check it out
[17:23] <jcerveira> TJ-: in top "Web Content", "gnome-shell", "pulseaudio", "Xorg" and "Firefox" are the first
[17:24] <jcerveira> TJ-: still No such file or directory
[17:24] <TJ-> jcerveira: is there a high % number in the CPU column for the top one?
[17:25] <TJ-> jcerveira: then I have to assume you're still in a Wayland session, not Xorg
[17:25] <TJ-> jcerveira: you can confirm that with "ps -efly | grep X"
[17:25] <jcerveira> TJ-: i'm in Xorg. I chose it in login and it shows Xorg in top
[17:26] <jcerveira> TJ-: "Web Content" as 14% in CPU
[17:27] <jcerveira> TJ-: it seems you are write https://paste.ubuntu.com/26341062/
[17:28] <jcerveira> *right
[17:33] <TJ-> jcerveira: OK, so whilst you've got the bug going on let's investigate as best we can!
[17:33] <TJ-> jcerveira: can you show us "pastebinit <( systemctl status )"
[17:36] <jcerveira> TJ-: I logoff and logged in again just to be sure I was in Xorg. I took a pic https://quuu37.s.cld.pt
[17:37] <jcerveira> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26341116/
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: is it equal xorg and wayland or worst on wayland?
[17:40] <TJ-> jcerveira: is there sign of an Xorg log-file now?
[17:41] <jcerveira> lotuspsychje: since I changed to Xorg it only blocked one time, when I opened several tabs at once in firefox (music did not stop, only mouse arrow moved). I'll keep using to test it
[17:42] <jcerveira> TJ-: ls: impossível aceder a '/var/log/Xorg*': Ficheiro ou directoria inexistente (that's portuguese for no file or directory found)
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox artful | jcerveira this the version you have right?
[17:45] <vin_> ok it worked thanks so much for the help
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> !yay | vin_
[17:45] <jcerveira> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26341172/
[17:45] <vin_> i have another question, is this is process to install all new programs?
[17:45] <vin_> how will i know what to type for the program i want
[17:45] <ioria> jcerveira, what's in ~/.local/share/xorg ?    (note the '.')
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> vin_: you can install packages via terminal or ubuntu software centre
[17:46] <vin_> ok thanks again !!! im super excited about this!!!
[17:46] <jcerveira> ioria: Xorg.0.log  Xorg.0.log.old
[17:46] <ioria> jcerveira, paste that
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: this happens on other browsers too?
[17:48] <jcerveira> ioria: the *.old too? https://paste.ubuntu.com/26341197/
[17:48] <jcerveira> lotuspsychje: only use Firefox
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: would be interesting to know on chromium for example
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: just to closeout things
[17:49] <tezogmix> Were there any major LTS 16.04 for metldown? I did a few sudo-apt get update/dist-upgrades but didn't notice anything from today/yesterday
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: while you hammering firefox, can you launch it from terminal plz, so you can follow errors
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> !tkip | tezogmix
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> !kpti | tezogmix
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> tezogmix: the firefox usn has been pushed, others to follow
[17:51] <jcerveira> lotuspsychje: i'm installing it
[17:53] <tezogmix> lotuspsychje, thanks my initial question was in relation to that wiki ubuntu link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/SpectreAndMeltdown - I saw that a few days ago and just wanted to make sure I was doing it right in checking, still learning/new...
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> tezogmix: if you keep your system up to date, youl be fine in most cases
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> tezogmix: your on desktop or server?
[17:54] <tezogmix> lotuspsychje, as for firefox 57+, that's been updated thankfully... also running PPA-firefox esr from the mozilla team PPA, and its latest version was apparently immune to meltdown (SharedArrayBuffer was disabled already),
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> tezogmix: great
[17:56] <tezogmix> lotuspsychje, running ubuntu lts guest on vmware 14.1 workstation via win7 host (win7 is updated to its KB patch), waiting on mfg/intel's end for their bios/microcode but not expecting this on the i5 2nd gen being ever updated from them
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> kk
[17:56] <tezogmix> vmware 14.1 is patched
[17:56] <tezogmix> on laptop...
[17:57] <tezogmix> I have a branch of ubuntu-mate I'm running on the raspberry pi 3b
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> tezogmix: allright, feel free to join #ubuntu-discuss
[17:57] <tezogmix> not sure how their update patterns follow but just recently installed it over the raspbian os, seems much smoother/stable... ah ok thanks lotuspsychje
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: did you have this issue, all-time or after something happened?
[18:05] <jcerveira> lotuspsychje: normally when using Firefox and thunderbird. But still did not happened like before since I changed to Xorg
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: hmm so it might be a wayland thing afterall
[18:06] <jcerveira> lotuspsychje: but it only happened sometimes, not everytime
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> jcerveira: but i meant like at your first ubuntu install, or started to occur after an update/kernel?
[18:07] <jcerveira> lotuspsychje: can't remember
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> allright no sweat
[18:09] <MJCDwork> hey how do I change it so the desktops are horizontal not vertical
[18:09] <MJCDwork> I found some capabilities in keyboard shortcuts
[18:10] <MJCDwork> but not enough to clarify
[18:11] <MJCDwork> wow latest ubuntu comes WITH wine preinstalled
[18:11] <jer> MJCDwork, yeah but wayland =/
[18:12] <MJCDwork> stuff like pressing windows key + e
[18:12] <MJCDwork> doesn't give me a file explorer
[18:12] <MJCDwork> still a ways to go UX wise
[18:12] <MJCDwork> has a lot better accessibility tools than windows
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> !chat | MJCDwork
[18:12] <MJCDwork> jer, its a bit heavy
[18:13] <MJCDwork> but then again this second laptop finding it heavy is 10 years old
[18:13] <MJCDwork> lol
[18:13] <MJCDwork> lotuspsychje, sorry
[18:13] <jer> nah my only problem with wayland being the default is i use the proprietary nvidia drivers and have no integrated gpu, so i can't upgrade this system easily.
[18:14] <jer> (also can't use the open source drivers beause of work related requirements -- cuda etc)
[18:14] <sacioz> msg #Ubuntu hello all
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> sacioz: welcome
[18:17] <brainwash> jer: but in this case the Xorg session will be started
[18:18] <brainwash> jer: if support for wayland is not available
[18:18] <jer> brainwash, oh interesting; ok that bit i didn't know (i've had problems on another system, probably different then)
[18:20] <sacioz> msg  no joy
[18:24] <drager> Ben64: After I rebooted my computer, is not my phone listed anymore. How can I make it permanent? :P
[18:29] <mise> anyone know if i can launch programs with different configuration files? for example if i wanted to have two different profiles for a program
[18:32] <drager> Ben64: nvm
[18:39] <dan01> How's dual graphics support on Ubuntu for AMD(apu + gpu)?
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> !amd | dan01
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> mise: what kind of program did you have in mind?
[18:46] <mise> lotuspsychje: cmus. would be handy to have a test config to check metadata but not affect my imported library. then i thought it might be a handy thing to be able to do in general for experimenting with config files.
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> mise: over my head sorry, manpage shows anything usefull?
[18:48] <mise> lotuspsychje: no, and i was hoping that there might be a generic way of doing this for programs but i guess that's being optimistic
[18:49] <ioria> mise, well, in my case, wanted to run different instances of xfce-terminal with different background image ; so i did a script to change the default config folder (by default ~/.config) , modifying  the XDG_CONFIG_HOME variable
[18:52] <mise> ioria: sounds interesting. can you guide me somewhere that would show me how to do that?
[18:53] <tt33> how i can hide the cache/config/local folder in pureftpd accounts? and why i need this?
[18:54] <ioria> mise,  nope, never found such a resource; but it's easy : let's say that the config files are in  ~/.config/xfce/terminal/terminalrc; you make a a script that clone the tree, edit the main file  set again the variable
[18:55] <mise> ioria: i'm afraid i don't know much about modifying variables
[18:56] <ioria> mise,   like this : XDG_CONFIG_HOME=$DIR/$var xfce4-terminal --disable-server&
[18:57] <mise> ioria: will look into this. cheers
[18:57] <ioria> mise,   ok
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> tt33: be carefull with ftp these days, its a security risk
[18:59] <ikonia> tt33: if you're asking "why do I need this" why are you looking to do it
[19:00] <tezogmix> which areas of ftp are you implying lotuspsychje -
[19:00] <ikonia> the fact that it's an insecure protocol by design
[19:00] <ikonia> which is why no-one really uses it these days
[19:01] <tezogmix> Or rather, if we still had to use ftp... how would you approach it?
[19:01] <ikonia> why do you "have" to use it
[19:01] <ikonia> what is the requirement
[19:02] <tezogmix> To fetch data stored on their - I use an ftp manager on windows with a login/pass to its ip
[19:02] <tezogmix> there*
[19:02] <ikonia> why does it have to be ftp
[19:03] <tezogmix> I think that's one of the options in which historically I was just use to, not saying I wouldn't consider other options... lftp is supported as well but not familiar with using that yet.
[19:03] <ikonia> so it's not a requirement
[19:03] <ikonia> you've just not looked at other options
[19:04] <tezogmix> Ah right ikonia , yes thanks for clarifying the thoughts...
[19:04] <ikonia> so thats what you need to do, research other options
[19:10] <tt33> i cant find informations about this 3 folder in the docs
[19:11] <ikonia> tt33: again why are you trying to do something you don't even know what it does ?
[19:13] <tt33> i know what ftpd does ... but i dont know why in every virtual user the 3 folder exist
[19:15] <TJ-> tt33: $HOME/.{cache,local,config} are used by the GUI session tools
[19:17] <F3K2X0C9> x/clear
[19:18] <tt33> TJ-: thanks, think i can hide this?
[19:20] <TJ-> tt33: it sounds as if you've got pureftp configured to have many virtual users share a single system user account, in which case presumably at some point you have logged into that system user account using the GUI. If you do not intend using the GUI with that account again you could delete those directories. Otherwise, you'd have to change the permissions (probably using ACLs) in order that pureftpd cannot
[19:21] <TJ-> read into those directories
[19:26] <tt33> ok thanks
[19:39] <mota57> hey guys I setup a proxy using my linux machine digital ocean so I can navigate in some pages block in my country..but the proxy doesn't hide my ip completely how can I hide my ip?
[19:39] <mota57> in short words how can I make a anonymous proxy?
[19:40] <TJ-> mota57: can you use TOR ?
[19:40] <imi> hi, how do I install adobe flash player to my ubuntu? why doesn't it preinstalled? does it have any security implications on installing it?
[19:40] <TJ-> !flash | imi
[19:41] <bobeo> o/
[19:41] <bobeo> anyone on?
[19:42]  * xs2 just offed himself
[19:42] <bobeo> looking for some good pointers on tighting security. any pointers or tutorials would be awesome. current version is 16.04.3 LTS
[19:42] <TJ-> !security
[19:42] <TJ-> gah!
[19:43] <alkisg> Meh, that "how to install flash" page is terribly out of date
[19:44] <alkisg> imi: run `software-properties-gtk`, enable the "partner" repository from there, and finally install "adobe-flashplugin" from software center
[19:44] <TJ-> bobeo: not quite what you asked for, but a list of the hardening features Ubuntu implements: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features
[19:45] <bobeo> TJ-: We have a massive project we are about to take public, and we are looking for some last minute measures to increase security before letting people have access to it.
[19:45] <TJ-> bobeo: also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity
[19:45] <mota57> i want to use tor shit because is too lazy my man
[19:45] <bobeo> The boss is pretty edgy after a previous admin came in and blew up a bunch of stuff
[19:45] <mota57> i dont want to use*
[19:46] <bobeo> really set the project back weeks
[19:47] <mota57> well I google a littel bit I hope this works IF SOMEONE WAMT TO USE A ANONYMOUS PROXY FROM WINDOWS USING A CLOUD MACHINE IN VULTR OR SOMEWHERE ELSE FOLLOW THIS GUIDE. https://www.vultr.com/docs/install-squid-proxy-on-ubuntu
[19:47] <mota57> DONT USE FUCKING TOR IS CRAP
[19:47] <mota57> is a crap*
[19:48] <TJ-> !info lynis | bobeo see also this
[19:48] <ketoprofen> bobeo , i am missing something or you have to be more specific with "increase security"
[19:49] <KeyboardNotFound> Can I change color theme in Ubuntu 17.10 ?
[19:49] <TJ-> bobeo: and this article has a LOT of good advice relating to securing server applications and monitoring them https://blog.mattbrock.co.uk/hardening-the-security-on-ubuntu-server-14-04/
[19:51] <bobeo> ketoprofen: we are looking to do everything we can to increase security, everything from reducing exposed ports to implementing regular account auditing, systems auditing, log forwarding, cron jobs, anything and everything we can to drastically increase security posturing. we are looking to do a full security overhaul.
[20:02] <oerheks> these are my 'hardening' docs >> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/security.html -- https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/best-practices-for-hardening-new-sever-in-2017 -- https://github.com/konstruktoid/hardening -- https://samiux.blogspot.nl/2016/08/howto-hardening-and-tuning-ubuntu-1604.html
[20:02] <oerheks> as 16.04 uses systemd, that 14.04 is a basis, but not all
[20:10] <gambl0re> hello?
[20:30] <Vysty> TJ-: My first time in here. What am I looking for? An autoadjust?
[20:31] <TJ-> Vysty: sometimes, to the right side is a control that indicates it's toggling some kind of amplifier on inputs
[20:31] <TJ-> Vysty: it very much depends on the sound device though
[20:32] <Vysty> hmm... all I have is: card, Chip, View, Item, Help, System Information, Select Sound Card, Exit.
[20:32] <Vysty> Card is: HDA Intel HDMI, Chip is: Intel Haswell HDMI
[20:33] <TJ-> Vysty: you see mixer controls with titles beneath them?
[20:33] <Vysty> TJ-: Nope.
[20:34] <TJ-> Hmmm, that doesn't sound correct then. You should see controls similar to this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Alsamixer.png
[20:35] <TJ-> Vysty: on my system for example there's a mixer control titled "Mic Boost" and another "Auto-mute"
[20:35] <Vysty> In the AlsaMixer?
[20:35] <Vysty> No, I don't have those.
[20:37] <TJ-> Vysty: hmmm, OH! your system has defaulted to the HDMI output! Press F6 and select the other device!
[20:38] <Vysty> TJ-: Alright, I selected my microphone.
[20:38] <Vysty> "This sound device does not have any playback controls."
[20:38] <Vysty> I can adjust the "Capture"
[20:39] <TJ-> Vysty: try other devices if there are more than one shown with F6
[20:39] <Vysty> But there's nothing about auto-adjust.
[20:39] <TJ-> Vysty: Are you sure it's not audacity doing active levelling ?
[20:39] <Vysty> TJ-: Nope. Was looking into that, too.
[20:39] <Vysty> Nope meaning "Not sure".
[20:39] <ioria> Vysty, do you have other sw using your mic ? like skype ?
[20:40] <Vysty> ioria: Looked into that. Closed Skype. Still same problem.
[20:40] <ioria> Vysty, check the mic skype settings
[20:40] <Vysty> TJ-: I selected "HDA Intel PCH", and I have these options to work with: Front Mic, Line Boost, Capture, Capture 1, Input Source, Input Source, Rear Mic B
[20:40] <Vysty> ioria: I did and I set it to "not auto-adjust". It still auto-adjusted when recording with audacity.
[20:41] <Vysty> And I'm looking in Audacity itself for an option that auto-corrects.
[20:41] <ioria> Vysty, some other program you forget about it ?
[20:42] <ioria> *got
[20:42] <Vysty> ioria: The only other thing I have open is Discord, but I'm not on a call with anyone.
[20:42] <ioria> i see
[20:43] <TJ-> Vysty: right; I can't recall or find a live recording normalise function so it must be something to do with either the hardware, ALSA, or possibly Pulse Audio (although I'd guess Audacity is using ALSA)
[20:43] <Vysty> Well shit...I closed Discord and it's not doing it at this moment...
[20:43] <TJ-> Vysty: haha, there you go!
[20:43] <Vysty> TJ-: I'm still suspicious. I remember having this problem long before I signed onto Discord.
[20:43] <TJ-> ioria: nice call :)
[20:43] <ioria> lol
[20:44] <TJ-> Vysty: well I have seen it in hardware devices so it may be it was being triggered by Discord
[20:44] <Vysty> mrek
[20:44] <akik> so discord keeps the mic open adjusting the levels while not in a call...
[20:44] <ioria> Vysty "he dirty little secret is that if you have that option selected in any piece of software, all software that uses your microphone (including Audacity) are also affected."
[20:45] <Vysty> ioria: that is a dirty secret.
[20:45] <TJ-> akik: or configures the input for it and doesn't unconfigure it until it terminates
[20:45] <ioria> yup
[20:45] <Vysty> ioria: I have a recording I've been working on for quite some time and I'm going to have to redo the whole thing because my input levels weren't consistent.
[20:46] <ioria> Vysty, sorry about that
[20:46] <Vysty> Not your fault.
[20:46] <Vysty> Should have done my homework first.
[20:47] <Vysty> Speaking of homework, before I start my googling rampage, anyone have experience adjusting the settings on audacity to ensure consistent audio quality?
[20:47] <Vysty> In the sense that, I will have to record multiple times over multiple days in order to finish this.
[20:47] <Vysty> So there will be things like shutting down the computer involved.
[20:47] <TJ-> Vysty:  you might be able to fix it in Audacity; using an inverted Auto Duck track
[20:47] <Vysty> TJ-: Whazzat?
[20:49] <mragy> i want program like photo shop on ubutu
[20:49] <TJ-> Vysty: Auto Duck is generally used for DJs to do voice overs; whenever the level in the voice-over track reaches a certain level it 'ducks; (lowers) the level in the music track. You could create a clone of your music track, invert the amplitude levels, and use it as the 'Duck' track which should bring the peaks in your original to the same level as the quieter parts
[20:49] <EriC^^> mragy: gimp
[20:50] <mragy> ???
[20:50] <TJ-> Vysty: once you've done that you could then Normalise the main track
[20:50] <EriC^^> mragy: install gimp, sudo apt-get install gimp
[20:50] <mragy> thanks
[20:50] <EriC^^> no problem
[20:51] <Vysty> TJ-: No music track involved.
[20:51] <Vysty> TJ-: It's more like an audiobook.
[20:51] <Vysty> I'll be putting music to it after I'm finished, but it will be putting music to voice, not voice to music.
[20:51] <TJ-> Vysty: so? that is an example, whatever is in your primary track, you could use an inverted version to cause ducking
[20:53] <mragy> i want play any games on ubuntu i know linux dont run .exe  what can i do
[20:53] <Vysty> TJ-: hmm... guess you're recommendations are still outside my skill level.
[20:54] <TJ-> Vysty: You might find the Leveller effect is better, especially with make-up gain, see http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/limiter.html
[20:54] <Vysty> TJ-: What I was planning on doing, is just making sure the microphone is set low enough that my voice doesn't exceed the recording amplitude at any time, then normalize when finished.
[20:54] <Hell_> Hello there. I currently have a fully installed live usb running. Is it possible to use that to install ubuntu on a laptop instead of making a new live usb for installing?
[20:56] <TJ-> Hell_: in theory, yes, but quite complicated unless you're familiar with the innards of the system
[20:58] <Hell_> So I'm better off finding another usb drive and creating a standard installation drive?
[20:59] <TJ-> Hell_: the 'fully installed live usb' you have running, that sentence confuses me. Do you mean the LiveISO is booted and running in Try Ubuntu mode ?
[20:59] <EriC^^> that would be easier, unless the drive's have identical sizes
[21:00] <Hell_> I mean ubuntu is fully installed on the flash drive. It's not running in the Try Ubuntu mode but as if it was installed on a regular hdd
[21:00] <TJ-> Hell_: OK, thanks for clarifying. As EriC^^ said, although a 'clone' from the installed system to another is possible
[21:01] <asdlasdk> I need to create an alias for youtube-dl. But bash shows an error for the use of "(". I tried this. alias youtune='youtube-dl --output /home/alpha/Music/Instrumental/%(title)s.%(ext)s --extract-audio --audio-format mp3'
[21:02] <Hell_> I see, thanks for your responses. Have a good day
[21:02] <EriC^^> asdlasdk: try escaping the ( with \(
[21:04] <akik> asdlasdk: if you want to expand variables, the syntax would be ${title} and ${ext}
[21:04] <asdlasdk> EriC^^: Thanks. I was looking for this.
[21:04] <EriC^^> asdlasdk: no worries
[21:05] <asdlasdk> akik: Thanks for the help man.
[21:08] <ReimuHakurei_> >Failed to connect to http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release. Check your Internet connection or proxy settings
[21:08] <ReimuHakurei_> every time i log in
[21:08] <ReimuHakurei_> i can wget that URL with no issues
[21:10] <ikonia> ReimuHakurei_: what version of ubuntu are you using exactly
[21:10] <ReimuHakurei_> 17.10
[21:10] <ReimuHakurei_> upgraded from my server host's 14.04 image
[21:10] <ReimuHakurei_> 14.04 -> 16.04 -> 17.04 -> 17.10
[21:10] <ikonia> 17.10 is there, in the list so it should be fine
[21:11] <ReimuHakurei_> i can wget that url, but i get that message every login
[21:11] <ikonia> I wonder if something has gone wrong in the multiple-step upgrade process
[21:11] <ReimuHakurei_> there's also the long-standing bug where dns is 100% broken with systemd-resolve
[21:11] <EriC^^> ReimuHakurei_: try running the motd fetch program maybe?
[21:11] <ReimuHakurei_> EriC^^: update-motd does the same
[21:11] <ReimuHakurei_> https://i.shoov.in/1515359510.png
[21:12] <_eMaX_> hi all
[21:13] <_eMaX_> I'm upgrading an old box here from 14.10 LTS to 16.10 LTS, and while doing so, am asked for a password. I see in /etc/passwd that a bunch of users have been added. It asks me for something in the context of systemd-journal. Any ideas?
[21:13] <ReimuHakurei_> 14.10 and 16.10 are not lts
[21:13] <ReimuHakurei_> do you mean 14.04 and 16.04?
[21:13] <_eMaX_> sorry, yes
[21:14] <EriC^^> _eMaX_: systemd is new for 16.04 vs 14.04
[21:14] <_eMaX_> but why is it asking for password?
[21:14] <_eMaX_> when I do do-release-upgrade
[21:14] <adman120> Hey im having an issue with slow transfer speeds over nfs
[21:14] <EriC^^> _eMaX_: can you post the error?
[21:15] <piper> hi
[21:15] <_eMaX_> https://imgur.com/a/6nsPP
[21:16] <ReimuHakurei_> try entering the password for your current user?
[21:16] <ikonia> thats not systemd asking you for a password
[21:16] <_eMaX_> tried to do that, that's not working
[21:16] <ReimuHakurei_> or failing that, root password if set?
[21:16] <ikonia> thats the user already existing
[21:16] <ikonia> and not being able to carry on
[21:16] <ikonia> I suspect you've set a root password
[21:16] <_eMaX_> the user was created: https://pastebin.com/9aEege8e
[21:16] <_eMaX_> these users weren't there before
[21:16] <ikonia> which begs the question how is a systemd user already on the system if this is an upgrade
[21:17] <_eMaX_> yes, they were created as part of the do-release-upgrade
[21:17] <_eMaX_> and now it is asking me for password ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[21:17] <ReimuHakurei_> try your root password
[21:17] <ikonia> what's asking for a password, is this during the upgrade or after the upgrade
[21:17] <ikonia> this looks like part of the upgrade
[21:18] <_eMaX_> ok I've set passwords manually for all of them and it rand thorugh
[21:18] <ikonia> those users are not meant to have passwords
[21:18] <ikonia> they are system accounts
[21:18] <_eMaX_> yes but for some reason it was asking for password, and it was not the root password
[21:18] <ikonia> no
[21:18] <ikonia> you don't set passwords you need to understand what's going on with this
[21:18] <ReimuHakurei_> ah, systemd...
[21:18] <archiebalda> I need to backup all .odt office wiles before doing operations on system, by which command I can execute search in between all files in terminal, or where I can read about it in depth?
[21:19] <ikonia> archiebalda: find
[21:19] <ReimuHakurei_> nothing but problems with systemd, shame you can't disable it entirely on ubuntu...
[21:19] <ikonia> systemd is fine
[21:19] <archiebalda> ikonia: can you specify for .odt files the whole line maybe?
[21:19] <ikonia> and you can't disable it on any operating system - more so if you use modern desktops like gnome that depend on it
[21:20] <ikonia> archiebalda: you can find speficily odt files yes
[21:20] <ReimuHakurei_> servers sure don't depend on it
[21:20] <gambl0re> anyone know how to fix this mounting volume error? https://gist.github.com/rickywid/e8a8f405635a70123bef6ba515f32b4c
[21:20] <ikonia> ReimuHakurei_: they do
[21:20] <EriC^^> archiebalda: sudo find /path/to/search -iname '*.odt'
[21:20] <ReimuHakurei_> or rather, none of the SW i use does
[21:20] <EriC^^> archiebalda: for more info 'man find'
[21:20] <TJ-> archiebalda: something like "find $HOME -type f -name '*odt' " to locate them; you can add something like " -execdir cp {} /mnt/backup" to also copy them to a backup directory
[21:21] <ikonia> gambl0re: change exfat to vfat
[21:21] <archiebalda> thanks to all!
[21:21] <ikonia> gambl0re: or remove the -t argument and let it work it out
[21:21] <adman120> Hey im having an issue with slow transfer speeds over nfs
[21:22] <gambl0re> ikonia, it's an sd card
[21:22] <ikonia> gambl0re: and ?
[21:22] <gambl0re> i never changed the file format
[21:22] <Vysty> TJ-: Looking through some audacity options... I realized that I can't select my Microphone in audacity. I can only select "Pulse" or "Default". Do you think thinks makes any sort of difference?
[21:22] <ikonia> gambl0re: no-one said you did
[21:22] <gambl0re> is it supposed to be vfat?
[21:22] <ikonia> gambl0re: try the -t vfat
[21:22] <ikonia> gambl0re: then try not using -t at all
[21:23] <ikonia> see what happens
[21:23] <gambl0re> ok so whats the full command. im new to this
[21:23] <ReimuHakurei_> gambl0re: for an SD card, should be vfat for 32GB and under, or exfat for 64GB+
[21:23] <gambl0re> im typing any commands. im trying to open the volume by clicking on it
[21:23] <ReimuHakurei_> at least, that's what the SD card spec requires; it's not always followed.
[21:23] <gambl0re> its a 64gb
[21:23] <ikonia> gambl0re: ahhh
[21:23] <ikonia> gambl0re: ok, so you're not manually mounting it you're trying to get nautlius to auto mount it on click
[21:23] <gambl0re> no
[21:23] <ikonia> oh ? what are you doing then
[21:24] <gambl0re> i can see it i just cant access it
[21:24] <gambl0re> it gives me that error
[21:24] <ikonia> what ?
[21:24] <ikonia> what exactly are you doing ?
[21:24] <TJ-> Vysty: I see "ALSA" then to the right of microphone icon a list where as well as "pulse: xxx" entries there are "default: xxxx" and raw hardware device names
[21:24] <gambl0re> i can see it in the folder tree structure. it says 64g volume but when i try to open/access it i get that error
[21:25] <ikonia> right, so nautlius to auto mount it when you click on it
[21:25] <ikonia> ok
[21:25] <ikonia> so that suggests to me that the dos tools are not installed
[21:25] <ikonia> which is odd as thats normally default
[21:25] <gambl0re> can i explain a little bit
[21:25] <ReimuHakurei_> sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[21:25] <ReimuHakurei_> try that
[21:25] <ikonia> exfat-utils should do it
[21:25] <ikonia> but that should normally be there by default on a desktop
[21:25] <gambl0re> this is a windows laptop but i installed ubuntu maybe around christmas time so now im dual booting ubuntu/windows
[21:26] <Vysty> TJ-: Yea, that's the one I'm looking at.
[21:26] <gambl0re> do you want me to run this command? sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[21:26] <ReimuHakurei_> yes
[21:26] <gambl0re> ok
[21:26] <ReimuHakurei_> run that in a terminal
[21:26] <gambl0re> ok
[21:26] <Vysty> TJ-: My options are: Default, Pulse, my webcame, and a HDA Intel PCH: ALC662 rev2 alt analog (hw:1,2)
[21:26] <ReimuHakurei_> if it installs something, try it again; if it says already installed, your problem is somewhere else.
[21:27] <gambl0re> what am i installing?
[21:27] <Vysty> TJ-: I have no idea what that last one is.
[21:27] <ReimuHakurei_> the libraries for using exFAT
[21:27] <gambl0re> ok its done
[21:27] <gambl0re> now what
[21:27] <ReimuHakurei_> try again
[21:27] <ReimuHakurei_> see if you still get an error
[21:27] <mischfire> Anyone having issues booting 4.14.12?
[21:27]  * mischfire raises hand
[21:28] <gambl0re> oh ok. i get a different error but...
[21:28] <ReimuHakurei_> what error now?
[21:28] <gambl0re> it opened the folder still
[21:28] <gambl0re> Unable to mount 64 GB Volume - Device /dev/mmcblk0p1 is already mounted at `/media/ricky/CC23-17B3'.
[21:28] <ReimuHakurei_> ah
[21:28] <ReimuHakurei_> should be fine
[21:28] <ReimuHakurei_> you can safely ignore that
[21:28] <gambl0re> yea it works. i can access it
[21:28] <gambl0re> thanks
[21:28] <ReimuHakurei_> np
[21:29] <gambl0re> but how did you know i needed to install that package?
[21:29] <ReimuHakurei_> did a google search for what package is responsible for exfat, copied and pasted the package names
[21:29] <gambl0re> but how did you know i needed a package for exfat
[21:29] <ReimuHakurei_> >unknown filesystem type 'exfat'
[21:29] <ReimuHakurei_> this means that it can't find a program that can handle exfat
[21:30] <ReimuHakurei_> so you need the package that does
[21:30] <gambl0re> waas that in the error message?
[21:30] <ReimuHakurei_> yep
[21:30] <ReimuHakurei_> at the very end
[21:30] <gambl0re> i see...
[21:30] <ReimuHakurei_> the important stuff is often at the very end of the error
[21:30] <gambl0re> i thought you memorized all the packages and knew which one to install. i've been using ubuntu on/off a few years so im still new to all this
[21:31] <ReimuHakurei_> nah, google is your friend
[21:31] <gambl0re> this is awesome. thanks
[21:31] <adman120> Anyone good with nfs troubleshooting
[21:31] <gambl0re> also do i need to upgrade my ubuntu 14
[21:31] <E30GK2G9> gambl0re: you can try using apt search [term] to look for relevant packages
[21:31] <gambl0re> to 16 or 17?
[21:31] <ReimuHakurei_> gambl0re: if you just installed it and you're on 14.xx then it's a good idea
[21:31] <gambl0re> or can i just leave it at 14?
[21:31] <TJ-> Vysty: My audacity selects one of the "default: " entries, specifically "default: Internal Mic:0"
[21:31] <ReimuHakurei_> especially on a desktop system
[21:31] <gambl0re> ReimuHakurei_, ok
[21:32] <E30GK2G9> gambl0re: it's not requried per se (as long as it's not EOL yet), but doesn't hurt
[21:32] <ReimuHakurei_> 14.04 is supported until april 2019
[21:32] <Vysty> TJ-: Yea, it looks like default is my only option that works.
[21:32] <ReimuHakurei_> the command to upgrade is do-release-upgrade; if you're on 14.04 you'll go to 16.04 which is supported until april 2021
[21:32] <gambl0re> ok when it its time to upgrade, is it a straight forward process like simply running a sudo command?
[21:32] <ReimuHakurei_> yep
[21:32] <ReimuHakurei_> sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:32] <gambl0re> thats truly amazing
[21:33] <ReimuHakurei_> note that 18.04 (the next LTS release) will be out later this year
[21:33] <E30GK2G9> gamblore: note that do-release-upgrade is unique to Ubuntu IIRC
[21:33] <_eMaX_> hmm. apt-get upgrade also just now asked for a password, when upgrading, in this case, spamassassin
[21:33] <ReimuHakurei_> a lot of people stick to the LTS releases because they tend to be more stable
[21:33] <ReimuHakurei_> but the other releases give you new features sooner
[21:34] <ReimuHakurei_> your exfat problem might've been because of 14.04
[21:34] <ReimuHakurei_> on newer versions it should be installed by default
[21:34] <E30GK2G9> gambl0re: Also, if you're running 17.10 but dislike Gnome (the default desktop environment), you can install Unity desktop (default the older Ubuntu versions). You'll be able to switch between them,
[21:34] <gambl0re> im using cinnamon desktop environment
[21:34] <ReimuHakurei_> anyway, g2g
[21:34] <gambl0re> for some reason my touchpad gestures didnt work in gnom/unity
[21:34] <gambl0re> thanks ReimuHakurei_
[21:35] <Guest26178> Hi!
[21:35] <ReimuHakurei_> gambl0re: newer hardware can have issues on older releasesa
[21:35] <Guest26178> Can anyone help with my problem
[21:35] <ReimuHakurei_> drivers usually improve with newer stuff
[21:35] <E30GK2G9> gamblore: have you looked into libinput gestures?
[21:35] <gambl0re> i see....im gonna check if i can access my sd card in windows. bye
[21:36] <E30GK2G9> Guest26178: What's your problem? Just ask away
[21:42] <Majora320> What would the best place be to ask about a broken package in the repos?
[21:43] <carban> hey there
[21:44] <carban> somebody here?
[21:44] <E30GK2G9> carban: just ask if you have any questions
[21:44] <TJ-> Majora320: here initially
[21:44] <E30GK2G9> carban: if someone is able to help, they will get back to you
[21:44] <Majora320> I've been getting 404s on libssl and openssl
[21:45] <Majora320> They're dependancies of curl - this is in a docker container initial setup
[21:45] <Majora320> The package files do indeed appear to be missing
[21:45] <carban> somebody knows how can i install a c++ compiler
[21:45] <Majora320> but only for ubuntu4.9
[21:45] <Majora320> carban: g++
[21:46] <TJ-> Majora320: which ubuntu release is it?
[21:46] <E30GK2G9> carbon: it should come by default IIRC, it's called g++?
[21:46] <Majora320> TJ-: The Dockerfile just specifies ubuntu:latest
[21:46] <E30GK2G9> carban: typo, that was addressed to you
[21:46] <ikonia> compilers are not installed by default
[21:46] <Majora320> It's xenial I think
[21:46] <E30GK2G9> ikonia: strange...I'm on livecd and it's here by default
[21:47] <TJ-> Majora320: assuming it's 17.10, you may need to do "apt-get update" in the container first to fetch the latest package lists - if those packages have been upgraded since the last 'update' 404s would be expected
[21:47] <Majora320> TJ-: I already do
[21:47] <ikonia> E30GK2G9: livecd is not an installed image
[21:47] <oerheks> E30GK2G9, livecd and gcc installed? not on ubuntu ...
[21:47] <TJ-> Majora320: check what "apt-cache policy <package-name>" reports
[21:47] <carban> I'm reading about, and I find that I need this command  sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[21:47] <Majora320> oh I see
[21:48] <E30GK2G9> oerheks: maybe I pulled it in without realizing
[21:48] <Majora320> docker must be using apt update from cache
[21:48] <Majora320> let me clear the docker cache
[21:49] <carban> I don't know what is a correct method to install it
[21:49] <ikonia> carban: that will install a complete development enviornment
[21:50] <ikonia> carban: probably the quicket path to getting a complete c++ development and build environment
[21:51] <E30GK2G9> carbon: first do a 'sudo apt update', followed by 'sudo apt install build-essential'?
[21:51] <E30GK2G9> carban*
[21:51] <oerheks> !build | and check the wiki
[21:52] <Majora320> yep that was it, needed to run with --no-cache
[21:53] <TJ-> Majora320: :)
[21:54] <carban> thanks, if I have new questions, I'm going to write again
[21:55] <xebra> hi, sometimes (rarely) the sound doesn't work at all when I connect external headphones to my ASUS laptop (but built-in speakers work!) If I reboot the system, it works. What could it be? What could I do to fix it without rebooting?
[21:56] <Majora320> Try selecting a sound card with alsamixer
[21:58] <_eMaX_> why would dpkg —configure -a ask for a password if I'm running it as root
[21:59] <E30GK2G9> _eMaX_: pretty sure it doesn't
[22:00] <_eMaX_> https://pastebin.com/U7WunAYq
[22:00] <ikonia> _eMaX_: this is why I told you not to set a password
[22:00] <ikonia> and understand the problem you rushed in and "fixed"
[22:00] <_eMaX_> It did that now with a number of packages, and I've still no idea what's going on
[22:00] <ikonia> right
[22:01] <_eMaX_> .oO(as you rightly said)
[22:01] <ikonia> _eMaX_: as you've now altered the state during the upgrade, I'd advise you to backup the work you want to keep and do a clean install with the correct target version
[22:02] <_eMaX_> only thing I did was to set the password for a number of service accounts, all of them I still know. So I can undo this
[22:02] <ikonia> _eMaX_: too late - you did this during a multi-hop upgrade that had a problem with it (accounts that shoudn't be there - being there)
[22:02] <ikonia> we don't know what's happened with the upgrade process now
[22:02] <ikonia> hence why I'd suggest you backup your data and do a clean install of the target version you want
[22:02] <whitebeast> im having issues with my internet download manager, and i have a red negative in the upper right hand of my screen. can anyone give me a lead to fix these issues
[22:03] <TJ-> _eMaX_: ikonia I don't think it's a case of accounts that shouldn't be there, but of system accounts (installed by packages) that are expected to not have passwords, having passwords assigned
[22:03] <ikonia> TJ-: no, that's not what I was saying
[22:04] <oerheks> whitebeast,  what download manager exactly?
[22:04] <ikonia> TJ-: the accounts that shouldn't be there where systemd accounts on a 12 upgrade, that was an example of "one" of the problems the upgrade had
[22:04] <ikonia> rather than understand the probem - the password was set and it was allowed to continue
[22:04] <whitebeast> im not entirly sure, i did some google searches and i was under the ipression its my download manager. the standard for 16.04 i guess
[22:04] <dax> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postgresql-common/+bug/1528822 looks curiously similar
[22:05] <ikonia> it was multi hop of 12->16 through 14/15
[22:06] <E30GK2G9> whitebeast: download manager? synaptic?
[22:06] <whitebeast> how do i check which download manager im using ?
[22:07] <E30GK2G9> whitebeast: what exactly do you mean by 'download manager'?
[22:07] <whitebeast> standard internet chrome download.. except it finishies with say missing or lost file
[22:09] <_eMaX_> Interesting. => https://pastebin.com/AAu3DvBT
[22:10] <_eMaX_> this is one of the installers (postinstallers). It detects the owner of in this case /var/lib/spamassassin, then does a su - to that user. Hence the password prompt
[22:11] <E30GK2G9> whitebeast: can you try replicating it with wget?
[22:11] <TJ-> ikonia: where did you get the 12.x from? I can only see 14.04 > 16.04 mentioned
[22:12] <whitebeast> what is wget?
[22:13] <_eMaX_> whitebeast: a tool that allows you to fetch something from a web server (for example), from the command line, instead of using a UI browser.
[22:13] <whitebeast> ive never used it. i can try it
[22:13] <E30GK2G9> whitebeast: what are you trying to download?
[22:14] <whitebeast> a new iso
[22:15] <E30GK2G9> whitebeast: try coping the link location in chrome, open a terminal, and do 'wget [link'
[22:15] <adman120> anyone know a reason why nfs file transfer would be slow/not working
[22:16] <laptop> why does hls not work on chromium on 32 bit ubuntu and how do you autoupdate chromium
[22:21] <algid> anyone have any thoughts on why htaccess might not be working?
[22:22] <algid> could it be related to 16.04?
[22:22] <laptop> https streaming or hls is not working
[22:22] <laptop> on chromium 32 bit but works fine under manjaro 64 bit
[22:24] <laptop> why is this?
[22:25] <hfp> Hi, I have installed an Ubuntu 17.10 server with the hostname 'myhost'. I then reconfigured this machine to a static IP on a bridge interface instead of dhcp on the default ethernet interface. But if I `ping myhost`, every machine on the network still has the wrong, dhcp supplied IP. I tried `sudo systemd-resolve --flush-caches
[22:25] <hfp> ` but no luck
[22:25] <vfw> adman120: http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s05.html
[22:25] <hfp> How do I get every machine on the LAN to update its definition of myhost?
[22:26] <adman120> bless
[22:27] <vfw> hfp: .... may be an issue with your router, or may be an issue that can be solved with router settings
[22:27] <hfp> To add to that, when I `dig myhost`, the answer comes back from 127.0.0.53
[22:28] <tomreyn> algid: you'll need to provide *way* more details
[22:28] <tomreyn> laptop: you, too
[22:28] <vfw> hfp: You might try leaving the server on dhcp and set a static lease for it on the router.
[22:30] <hfp> vfw: That's what I used to do, but I switched it because it's easier to manage from Ansible playbooks
[22:30] <qswz> https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/170781/223868 write-env-file is a command?
[22:31] <vfw> "Ansible playbooks"?
[22:31] <vfw> hfp: That's what you used to do, and it worked?
[22:32] <algid> i don't know, i enabled mod rewrite
[22:32] <vfw> hfp: Well, let me ask another question;  Do you have it outside the dhcp pool? Or inside the dhcp pool?
[22:32] <algid> i updated 000-default.conf
[22:32] <algid> it matches my other machine where htacess works
[22:33] <hfp> vfw: you mean the IP range?
[22:33] <laptop> hello may I ask for help
[22:33] <hfp> laptop: dont ask to ask, just ask your question and if someone can they'll help
[22:34] <laptop> does someone know how to enable https streaming in chromium
[22:34] <vfw> hfp: Are you using an IP address that is outside the router's dhcp pool?
[22:35] <hfp> vfw: yes
[22:35] <hfp> old ip was in the pool, new static one is outside of it
[22:36] <vfw> hfp: Ok, that's good, (if it is outside the dhcp pool).
[22:36] <hfp> laptop: how do you mean? streaming from https websites should work without any additional config
[22:40] <oerheks> laptop, for DRM streams i use chrome, not chromium
[22:40] <hfp> vfw: thing is, I don't know where the stale info comes from. If it's from my local resolver, the router, or the local dns server
[22:41] <laptop> actually https streaming does not seem to work on chromium 32 bit and there is not chrome 32 bit anymore
[22:42] <Deihmos> Trying out Ubuntu server. It boots to TTYL and I can't do anything. What is that?
[22:42] <laptop> I notice it works under manjaro 64 bit for chromium but I am not sure why
[22:42] <hfp> Deihmos: do you get to the login prompt?
[22:42] <ikonia> Deihmos: ubuntu server will only boot to a tty
[22:42] <Deihmos> There is no login
[22:42] <ikonia> what do you see ?
[22:42] <vfw> hfp: Reboot the router and you'll renew routing tables
[22:43] <Deihmos> TS Ubuntu TTYL
[22:43] <ikonia> TS Ubuntu TTYL ?
[22:43] <Deihmos> Actually tty1
[22:43] <ikonia> what is the TS bit ?
[22:44] <Deihmos> I don't know
[22:44] <ikonia> I wonder if it's ts for the timestamp
[22:44] <ikonia> Deihmos: what happens if you hit enter ?
[22:45] <Deihmos> Nothing happens
[22:45] <ikonia> Deihmos: if you hit caps lock does the light go on / off on your keyboard
[22:46] <Deihmos> Keyboard works
[22:46] <Deihmos> When I press enter it just shows another tty1 line
[22:47] <vfw> Deihmos: You can not login?
[22:47] <vfw> Deihmos: No login prompt?
[22:48] <Deihmos> Nope
[22:48] <vfw> Deihmos: Will Alt-RightArrow take you to tty2?
[22:48] <vfw> Deihmos: ... or Ctrl-Alt-F2 ?
[22:48] <Deihmos> Yes
[22:49] <vfw> Deihmos: So no login on any tty?
[22:49] <algid> anyone have a clue as to what could be preventing htacess from enabling in ubuntu 16.04?
[22:49] <Deihmos> Nope
[22:49] <algid> i don't have LAMP or anything, just apache
[22:50] <algid> added directory directives in 000-default.conf, restarted apache
[22:50] <vfw> algid: Site specific or global?
[22:50] <algid> there's only one site
[22:50] <algid> this procedure works on my other vps's
[22:51] <KeyboardNotFound> Can I make ubuntu cycle through all open windows when clicking alt + tab ?
[22:51] <algid> the only difference here is that i haven't installed php or mysql
[22:51] <ikonia> Deihmos: how are you confirming keyboard works
[22:51] <algid> which shouldn't impact
[22:51] <ikonia> (sorry may have missed some detail)
[22:51] <Deihmos> I can type Ctrl alt opens tty2 and so on
[22:52] <ikonia> Deihmos: and there is no login prompt on the other ttys
[22:52] <vfw> algid: grep AllowOverride
[22:52] <algid> i did that
[22:52] <algid> maybe i have to do it in apache2.conf
[22:53] <adman120> is a high id in top bad?
[22:53] <dax> adman120: as in PID?
[22:53] <adman120> no as in id by the cpu row
[22:54] <dax> no, the id there stands for idle
[22:54] <dax> so high just means the CPU isn't doing much
[22:54] <hfp> vfw: it must be elsewhere, I rebooted the router and now myhost is unknown. I guess the ubuntu server isn't advertising its hostname properly or something
[22:54] <adman120> hey do you know how to make mono not run like shit
[22:55] <Deihmos> there is no login prompt on all of them
[22:55] <vfw> algid: grep AllowOverride /etc/httpd/conf/*
[22:55] <Deihmos> think I am giving up on this
[22:55] <vfw> hfp: It would be a function of the router to allow hostname to be "advertised"
[22:56] <laptop> I figured out the solution in case anyone interested
[22:56] <laptop> there is an HLS extension that will work to play the videos
[22:56] <adman120> why do my containers hate me
[22:57] <KeyboardNotFound> Can I make ubuntu cycle through all open windows when clicking alt + tab ?
[22:57] <algid> grep: /etc/httpd/conf/*: No such file or directory
[22:57] <cfoch> hello
[22:58] <cfoch> what can I do to avoid this error
[22:58] <cfoch> /usr/bin/ld: main.o: undefined reference to symbol 'dgesvd_'
[22:58] <hfp> vfw: hmmm... not sure which direction to look now. Ubuntu should advertise out of the box, so something is wrong with the router I suppose?
[23:01] <cfoch> I installed liblapack-dev but I still get that error
[23:01] <ikonia> where are you getting these packages from
[23:03] <cfoch> ikonia: are you talking to me?
[23:08] <MagusAgnus> @cfoch probably :-)
[23:15] <TJ-> cfoch: are you linking liblapack ?
[23:16] <cfoch> I am building my own program that uses dlib and opencv
[23:16] <cfoch> I guess that opencv needs that liblapack thing internally
[23:16] <TJ-> cfoch: as in gcc .... -o myprog myprog.c -llapack
[23:17] <algid> is there a global file i can use instead of htaccess?
[23:18] <TJ-> algid: the site config file usually
[23:18] <TJ-> algid: under /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[23:18] <cfoch> thanks :)
[23:19] <cfoch> I will see if that works but probably it will
[23:19] <algid> so i can put htaccess style redirect code in there?
[23:19] <algid> inside <VirtualHost> ?
[23:20] <TJ-> algid: Yes
[23:21] <TJ-> algid: as the docs say, "Any directive that you can include in a .htaccess file is better set in a Directory block..."
[23:22] <algid> thanks dude that works
[23:22] <algid> i think there is some config change with 16.04 default apache that is different for setting up htaccess
[23:23] <algid> i see some people talking about it on google after upgrading but no answers
[23:27] <Th3C4pn> hey
[23:28] <laptop> anyone from australia or new zealand
[23:30] <root_____> s
[23:30] <root_____> hi
[23:31] <hfp> vfw: so it seems hostnames aren't advertised at all. it works with dhcp because the router knows which hostname has which ip, but it doesn't with static ips, and you're supposed to update your dns yourself with hostnames and ips.
[23:47] <anonymous> hi
[23:56] <cfoch> hello
[23:56] <cfoch> I have installed libopenblas-base but how do I find the .so?
[23:57] <Deihmos> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/950103659337134080
[23:57] <akik> cfoch: dpkg -L libopenblas-base | grep so