[00:06] <valorie> good grief the matrix is disturbed today
[19:33] <ahoneybun> wxl: you have access to the mastodon right?
[19:34] <wxl> ahoneybun: yes, but as i said, i have no way of getting notifications except by logging in and i'm not going to be logged in all the time i'm sorry to say.
[19:35] <ahoneybun> good wanted to check
[19:35] <wxl> so i'm on call if someone wants something posted :)
[19:35] <ahoneybun> ah that might be mastodon limit
[20:42] <valorie> I basically only login to post to both twitter, fb and masto
[20:42] <valorie> -both
[20:42] <valorie> add G+ and reddit
[20:42] <valorie> so, we still need a social media lover!
[20:44]  * acheronuk considers social media a necessary evil
[20:45] <valorie> for me that's true, but if other people like it, I'm ok with that
[20:46] <valorie> and we gotta reach out to where the people are
[20:46] <acheronuk> I quite like twitter. for it's simplicity
[20:48] <valorie> maybe I need to quit following accounts that bother me
[20:49] <valorie> but there are more and more ads and I hate every single one of 'em
[20:49] <acheronuk> oh, I adblock those
[20:53] <valorie> on twitter?
[20:54] <valorie> huh
[20:54] <valorie> well, I usually read it on my phone
[20:54] <valorie> not sure I can do that on my phone
[20:55] <acheronuk> I just stick to social media on laptop. There is never anything urgent enough or interesting enough, that I need to know about it on a phone :P
[20:56] <acheronuk> laptop/desktop/tablet
[20:58] <acheronuk> I am trying not to start on that slippery slope!
[21:08] <valorie> ah, for me what's on the phone is more frivolous
[21:09] <valorie> social media isn't serious unless there is horrible storms or other catastrophes where I need to check on people
[21:09] <valorie> because twitter used to be a bit more fun
[21:10] <valorie> now it all seems either deadly serious or plain old stupid
[21:11] <acheronuk> trump effect
 I'm a Twitter fanatic, let me post things :P
[21:17] <valorie> acheronuk: maybe
[21:17] <valorie> but trump is only a symptom, not the actual problem
[21:18] <acheronuk> yes, I was joking (mostly)
[21:19] <valorie> well, it shows up all kinds of places
[21:19] <valorie> I mean gosh, the number of drug overdoses in parts of the US are large enough to actually drag down the statistical life expectancy for the entire country
[21:19] <valorie> we have some problems here
[21:19] <acheronuk> yep. he is just the most high profile manifest ion
[21:20] <acheronuk> *manifestation
[21:20] <valorie> as I do my genealogy, I see poor folks in the 30s and 40s prospering later
[21:21] <valorie> and it seems partly because of the war
[21:21] <valorie> lots of guys in the military for awhile, and the economy picks up, there are more taxes so more services, better education, etc.
[21:22] <valorie> now we're doing the opposite -- cutting taxes, services, education and down goes everything
[21:23] <acheronuk> but he's a genius, and stable. it will surely work?
[21:24]  * acheronuk hides
[21:27] <valorie> mmmm
[21:27] <valorie> yeah
[21:27] <valorie> watching to see how that goes
[21:28] <acheronuk> well, we in the UK have our own pending **** hole to plunge down, so not really any better off IMO
[21:33] <valorie> well, that's part of the bigger picture
[21:34] <valorie> it seems sort of a revolt against modernity and fear of all "outsiders"
[21:34] <valorie> not just Europe, not just "the west"
[21:35] <valorie> god, guns, and gold
[21:35] <valorie> it's pretty scary even if it doesn't upend the whole tea cart
[22:03] <tsimonq2> oooh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqN1JkqsRvY
 yesh, I saw that
[22:11] <valorie> thanks for the link, tsimonq2
[22:12] <valorie> the leadup that I saw yesterday was ridiculously overblown and still great
[22:19] <valorie> ohmygosh, he's going to paddle the Nile
[22:19] <valorie> how cool
 :D
[22:20] <wxl> he ain't gonna get much packaging done like that >:(
[22:21] <valorie> not for a couple of weeks, yeah