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| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 05:58 |
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| lotuspsychje | morning sveta | 06:03 |
| Sveta | good morning, i'm speaking with jk^ on #lubuntu, it's an engaging conversation, but they need a lot of hand holding; i'd like to walk home and have a dinner | 06:03 |
| Sveta | turns out installing 'tor' in package manager is not necessary, they need to download https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/7.0.11/tor-browser-linux32-7.0.11_en-US.tar.xz and run the ./tor-browser_en-US/start-tor-browser.desktop script | 06:04 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah jk pretty noobish, trying all kind of weird stuff | 06:04 |
| Sveta | also turns out `lubuntu software center` is obsoleted | 06:04 |
| Sveta | they have ubuntu 16.04.3 | 06:04 |
| Sveta | would be nice if you joined in, if you have a desire to hand hold | 06:05 |
| Sveta | they would really appreciate it if you did :-) | 06:05 |
| Sveta | <jk^> there is a file "start-tor-browser" <jk^> it tells me that it's an executable script <jk^> 1) run 2) run in terminal 3) Open 4) cancel <jk^> i don't know what i have to do <Sveta> run <jk^> Sveta, nothing happens | 06:06 |
| Sveta | this is our last bit | 06:06 |
| lotuspsychje | oh no, combine noob with tor.. | 06:06 |
| lotuspsychje | not sure i want this lol | 06:07 |
| Sveta | just imagine you wanted to have tor-browser running | 06:07 |
| alkisg | Good morning all | 06:07 |
| lotuspsychje | morning alkisg dax | 06:07 |
| dax | moin | 06:07 |
| dax | lotuspsychje: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/SpectreAndMeltdown got updated since you were last online | 06:08 |
| lotuspsychje | lets c dax | 06:08 |
| lotuspsychje | neat dax | 06:10 |
| lotuspsychje | tnx 4 headsup | 06:10 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: so just update systems will do right | 06:10 |
| dax | once packages are released, yes | 06:10 |
| dax | they're in a testing PPA right now, and they're focusing on meltdown and amd64 first | 06:11 |
| dax | spectre and other architectures to come later | 06:11 |
| lotuspsychje | allrighty | 06:11 |
| dax | so i guess for now the only change for #ubuntu is "packages are in testing right now and should be released by the 9th" | 06:11 |
| dax | and throw them that link if they want more info | 06:12 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: bionic alpha has also been pushed to the future, due meltdown i read | 06:12 |
| lotuspsychje | dax: roger | 06:12 |
| dax | yeah, i saw too. they're also scrambling to get a fixed 17.10 out the door before 17.04 goes EOL, so not the best time to have an alpha | 06:12 |
| dax | if anyone gets bored and wants to help test that, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/385/builds is up | 06:13 |
| lotuspsychje | ok | 06:13 |
| lotuspsychje | good bionic is pretty stable already :p | 06:14 |
| lotuspsychje | and our firefox version wasnt affected on meltdown neither | 06:14 |
| dax | i haven't seen the crashes you reported in LP bug 1741598 by the way | 06:15 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1741598 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "plymouth crashed after login to desktop 18.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1741598 | 06:15 |
| dax | (i don't have a laptop with bionic, so can't test the touchpad one) | 06:15 |
| lotuspsychje | allrighty tnx 4 trying | 06:16 |
| lotuspsychje | cant reproduce the plymouth one, so might not be important | 06:16 |
| lotuspsychje | and i have a feeling that touchpad click might be on purpose for gnome? | 06:16 |
| dax | no idea. seems kinda weird if so | 06:17 |
| dax | though i find gdm3 weird in general | 06:17 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 06:18 |
| lotuspsychje | im testing chromium on bionic and its very resposnive | 06:18 |
| lotuspsychje | alkisg: gonna work on that 12.04 box today? | 06:20 |
| lotuspsychje | wb EriC^^ | 06:21 |
| EriC^^ | thx lotuspsychje | 06:21 |
| alkisg | lotuspsychje: it turns out it was the older rotational hdd, it lags a whole lot without errors, so we put it to a usb case, pulled /etc/passwd out of it (took a few minutes to copy!) and I clean installed 16.04 | 06:22 |
| lotuspsychje | !yay | alkisg | 06:22 |
| ubot5 | alkisg: Glad you made it! :-) | 06:22 |
| alkisg | :) | 06:22 |
| lotuspsychje | alkisg: could not have been our pro 850 :p | 06:22 |
| alkisg | Hehe, glad it wasn't that! | 06:22 |
| lotuspsychje | alkisg: ive been reading an article about ssd death times 24/7 hammering them | 06:23 |
| lotuspsychje | alkisg: and the 850 pro holded longer then promised | 06:23 |
| lotuspsychje | i also heared it once from a server guy | 06:23 |
| lotuspsychje | almost unwreckable | 06:23 |
| lotuspsychje | and 10y warranty | 06:23 |
| ducasse | good morning all | 07:03 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 07:10 |
| EriC^^ | morning ducasse o/ | 07:11 |
| lotuspsychje | hey ducasse lordievader | 07:12 |
| lotuspsychje | you guys survived the weekend :p | 07:12 |
| EriC^^ | morning lordievader | 07:12 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl work | 08:44 |
| alkisg | If I want to buy a new intel cpu, can I buy something that won't have the meltdown/spectre performance impact? | 09:09 |
| Ben64 | alkisg: no | 11:17 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:54 |
| pauljw | hey BluesKaj :) | 11:55 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning pauljw :-) | 11:56 |
| alkisg | ty Ben64, I'll wait a few months then for purchases :D | 12:00 |
| Ben64 | alkisg: years maybe | 12:32 |
| pauljw | hi EriC^^ :) | 13:47 |
| EriC^^ | hi pauljw :) | 14:01 |
| EriC^^ | how are you? | 14:02 |
| pauljw | doing fine EriC^^, thanks. how are you today? | 14:39 |
| EriC^^ | pauljw: good thanks :) | 15:06 |
| nicomachus | interesting script that tells you what you probably already know: https://github.com/speed47/spectre-meltdown-checker | 19:26 |
| * nacc waits for github to get exploited and that page to then exploit the world :-P | 19:27 | |
| nicomachus | heh | 19:27 |
| nicomachus | that'll teach all these "developers" to quit cloning repos and running scripts without reading them first | 19:28 |
| nacc | *cough* is it rude to say that web developers aren't programmers :) | 19:31 |
| nacc | (I know some are, it's just my gut instinctive response) | 19:31 |
| daftykins | nope, totally agree | 19:31 |
| daftykins | i also call it fake IT :D | 19:31 |
| nacc | and also ... who *wants* to learn javascript?? :) | 19:31 |
| nicomachus | I mean, I'd like to have an understanding of it. | 19:35 |
| nacc | nicomachus: right, but also, very little of JS is written anymore | 19:35 |
| nacc | it's all generated by frameworks | 19:35 |
| nacc | writing actual JS is an incredible PITA | 19:35 |
| nacc | because browser engines are randomly different :) | 19:35 |
| Zahovay | Hello, I am not sure if I am at the right place, I would like to become an ubuntu developer. I am 22, learning programming at university (2nd of 3) and I would like to learn about contributing and gaining experience for real world projects | 20:25 |
| oerheks | Zahovay, go for it, start with registering on launchpad | 20:30 |
| Zahovay | Well, I've read many of steps I should do before, but I would like to ask whether it is possible to find a mentor to help me getting involved in the real development of ubuntu (basically I have experience in c++ but I am a fanatic of C) | 20:32 |
| oerheks | thereis a C++ channel and programming, and on launchpad you find projects and teams | 20:40 |
| Zahovay | Alright, thanks a lot | 20:41 |
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