[00:42] <hml> wallyworld: do we indent error messages that go to a new line… i think i’ve seen it before, but can’t find it.
[00:43] <wallyworld> one sec, otp
[00:43] <thumper> hml: for example?
[00:43] <hml> i’m adding a line to the create back up error message… to suggest using juju switch or the -m flag
[00:47] <wallyworld> thumper: you got a sec?
[00:47] <wallyworld> hml: i can't recall one, just use no indent and see how it looks
[00:48] <thumper> wallyworld: yeah
[00:49] <wallyworld> thumper: see pm for link
[00:56] <wgrant> Am I good to upgrade my test controller to 2.2.9?
[01:00] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: ^^^^ ho'ws the release?
[01:01] <babbageclunk> wgrant: streams aren't updated yet
[01:01] <wgrant> AH heh
[01:08]  * thumper afk for a bit to run kids around
[01:08] <thumper> bbl
[06:03] <axw> wallyworld: there's probably a more appropriate place to fix this, but I don't know who/what/where/how, and this works: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8268
[06:03] <wallyworld> axw: yeah, looking now
[06:03] <axw> ta
[06:31] <babbageclunk> wgrant: sorry for the delay - 2.2.9 should be available for you to upgrade your test controller now
[20:31] <balloons> babbageclunk, looks like you got through everything yesterday in the end
[20:32] <babbageclunk> balloons: yup - can I talk through the steps with you before I update the template?
[20:33] <balloons> babbageclunk, absolutely. I think you hit the same issue in verify-upgrade I did -- it seems like a juju bug
[20:33] <balloons> that is; you can't upgrade to a specific agent in the proposed stream
[20:34] <babbageclunk> Right - we have code that picks a stream based on the version number, so we'll only look in proposed if the version's an rc.
[20:36] <babbageclunk> I guess adding an agent-stream option to upgrade-juju would do it.
[20:36] <balloons> babbageclunk, that does kind of ruin our cautionary steps then at pushing to proposed first
[20:37] <balloons> babbageclunk, but that's nice to know it's intentional. The verify-upgrade test though needs some love either way, so I'm glad you got so experience with it
[20:41] <babbageclunk> I was going to suggest always looking in proposed when there's a specified version, but I guess that also would break the safety of being able to try upgrading before it was released...
[20:41] <babbageclunk> Or does it?
[20:41] <babbageclunk> Actually I think that would be ok.
[20:41] <babbageclunk> And probably not difficult.
[20:57] <balloons> babbageclunk, so shall we chat now?
[20:59] <babbageclunk> balloons: yes please...
[20:59] <babbageclunk> just making a ho
[21:00] <babbageclunk> balloons: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/balloons?authuser=1
[21:02]  * balloons twiddles thumbs waiting for google
[21:03] <balloons> babbageclunk, hmm.. apparently I can't connect to hangouts
[21:03] <babbageclunk> It took me a few goes - maybe they're having issues?
[21:04] <balloons> now i don't see you in the call.. sigh
[21:05] <babbageclunk> weird - I'm there
[21:05] <babbageclunk> now I'm getting an error too.
[21:32] <anastasiamac> balloons: babbageclunk: wanna take it into release call?
[21:33] <balloons> trying to join yes