| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> @mariogrip, no!?? I'm right!? How about the Say Ubuntu app?? | 00:09 |
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| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> @mariogrip, and how about our recommended way of contacting you? :) | 00:10 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> @dariusc93, kick butt and have fun! | 00:10 |
| tgBot3 | <XavierXX> Does anyone here have a link for me to the plasma mobile telegram? | 00:12 |
| tgBot3 | <mariogrip> @XavierXX, https://t.me/plasmamobile | 00:17 |
| tgBot3 | <mariogrip> @wayneoutthere, i feel targeted | 00:19 |
| tgBot3 | <XavierXX> Thank you | 00:19 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> @mariogrip, does it feel good or bad? I like getting targeted. Where is @bhushanshah ? | 00:44 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> Also we always take recommendations for targeting. | 00:45 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> If we target you is usually means we love you. | 00:45 |
| tgBot3 | <mariogrip> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/PjBF0IA0/file_3659.mp4 | 00:45 |
| tgBot3 | <mariogrip> @wayneoutthere, Awwww! love all you guys too! ❤️ | 00:46 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> Public Announcement: Yes, we have targeted Marius and his poor Ubuntu pronunciation, but it is out of love and care. | 00:46 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/P8o8xVzC/file_3660.mp4 | 00:47 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> @mariogrip @UniversalSuperBox I remember seeing some issue about ofobo and other configs but can't find the issue now... Got link? | 00:50 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Yes | 00:50 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/409 | 00:50 |
| tgBot3 | <mariogrip> @bhushanshah, ah yes, that's the idea of combinding it all into one central config file | 00:51 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> (this sounds like a job for Halium 👀) | 00:51 |
| tgBot3 | <mariogrip> yeah | 00:51 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Hm, can this issue be moved to halium projectmanagement? | 00:52 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> I wonder | 00:52 |
| tgBot3 | <mariogrip> I have started slightly on a compat for this | 00:52 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Because this is issue I'm looking into | 00:52 |
| tgBot3 | <mariogrip> @bhushanshah, sure | 00:52 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> But I don't think this is Launchpad | 00:52 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Bah, i'll put it there | 00:53 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> gets email | 00:53 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> never mind | 00:53 |
| tgBot3 | <per_sonne> What's with the camera permissions on the fp2? Gone again? | 00:53 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> FWIW, it will be really hard to use one config and get away with it, and also e.g there are some plasma mobile specific configs I want to include in the device image... So first initial solution would be to add support for utouch like overlay in the hybris boot | 00:54 |
| tgBot3 | <mariogrip> @mariogrip, this is just a simple python script that reads one config and creates the format the different components expect | 00:54 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> And then think about one config file | 00:54 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> @bhushanshah, ubports-boot does that. :/ | 00:54 |
| tgBot3 | <mariogrip> @UniversalSuperBox, yes :) and so much more | 00:55 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> I know, I'm back and forth on it. It's just... We're going to find every issue that was solved by it while we try to replace it | 00:55 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> @UniversalSuperBox, Not that I like that solution | 00:56 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> What would you prefer? | 00:56 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> It's just interim solution I feel like, I would prefer a solution which is either 1 config file or completely out of initrd solution | 00:57 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> You said it yourself, you have some PM-specific things you want to include | 00:58 |
| tgBot3 | <mariogrip> @UniversalSuperBox, and you can so easely do that with ubports-boot | 00:58 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Tbh, again I'm not sure if it's PM specific btw ^^^ | 00:58 |
| tgBot3 | <mariogrip> it's just that, it has all the feauters we want, why try to recreate that? insted focuse on improving what we have | 00:58 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> It's gst-omx and gst Droid Configuration files | 00:59 |
| tgBot3 | <mariogrip> also it's libc :) not that damn bionic | 00:59 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Mhmm. There are some things that aren't needed in ubports-boot, maybe the 'local' and 'nfs' scripts. Those can be removed. | 00:59 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Which might or not be useful for utouch | 00:59 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> I agree that it's not simple, but out of that complexity comes a very reliable system | 00:59 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> It's exactly what I'm finding with the hybris-boot compatibility. Every issue that we're going to hit using hybris-boot is already solved by engineers who work(ed) in embedded systems and were paid very well to do so. | 01:01 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Every filesystem corruption, udev dependency, mountpoint hit-or-miss... | 01:02 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> @UniversalSuperBox, Initially reason for not using ubports boot was, mainly it did get in way of booting systemd as far as I remember and it was hard to debug it.. but not fully sure | 01:06 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> I'll dig irc logs and figure out why we choose hybris boot | 01:06 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Well, now I have a better understanding of it. Maybe I could help out. | 01:06 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> (We'd also rename it, to be clear. ;) ) | 01:07 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Yeah right 😂 | 01:07 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> That was another issue (not) | 01:07 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> 😛 | 01:07 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 01:08 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> If need be for debugging, we could probably add more breakpoints. Just for good measure. | 01:09 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Actually, no maybe. We could do that. `maybe-break "breakpoint"` | 01:09 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> I think it figured out why it got in the way of systemd, and it's probably the same reason that hybris-boot got in the way of upstart | 01:11 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> No that was not it, I believe it even worked for Marius once.. but for me and others never | 01:12 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Aha, it uses `run_init` rather than `switch_root` for one | 01:12 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Well run_init is wrapper around switch root no? | 01:12 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> https://askubuntu.com/questions/744128/what-is-run-init-actually | 01:13 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> They're basically the same thing | 01:13 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Btw.. @mariogrip first ping about libcompat in new year | 01:16 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> 😆 | 01:16 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> I TOLD YOU THAT WOULD HAPPEN! | 01:16 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> :P | 01:16 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> I have been bugging him as you asked, @bhushanshah | 01:17 |
| tgBot3 | <KrisJacewicz> @dohbee, +1 | 01:21 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> @UniversalSuperBox, nice work! now bug @bhushanshah too | 01:29 |
| tgBot3 | <mariogrip> @bhushanshah, I will have it ready for our halium meeting :) | 01:30 |
| tgBot3 | <mariogrip> or before | 01:30 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> So, uh, @bhushanshah | 01:35 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> hybris-boot booted Halium on the first try | 01:35 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Darn it, did it again | 01:35 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> ubports-boot | 01:35 |
| tgBot3 | ahsanit was added by: ahsanit | 02:24 |
| tgBot3 | Javirojo was added by: Javirojo | 02:31 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> @UniversalSuperBox, Interesting, I suppose that will require changes on userspace side? | 03:24 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Meaning? | 03:30 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Well to start container I believe, changes in rootfs will be needed? | 03:31 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Possibly a few, I was pretty phased out on work by the time I got there | 03:32 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Ubports-boot actually gives us a lot more in terms of the container. It mounts the Android initrd, puts vendor in the right place, mounts all the partitions | 03:33 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> You can also provide /data/.writable_image if you please to enable rw / | 03:34 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Okay I'll experiment more about it | 03:34 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Right, let me know where you get and I'll see if I can take it from there | 03:34 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> One thing, it does require you to change your fstab to put `/dev/mmcblk...` in data's line. | 03:35 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> That's not great, but could probably be solved right quick since we already have fixup-mountpoints | 03:36 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Right | 03:36 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Or some usage of findfs / blkid maybe | 03:37 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> No `block` BTW, we don't symlink dev into dev block | 03:37 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> I think there's a reason that Canonical didn't do thay | 03:37 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Device vendors being not sane? | 03:37 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Yeo | 03:38 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> And not labeling partition correctly | 03:38 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> -.- | 03:38 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Yep | 03:38 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Looking at the initrd, it feels like there were lots of lessons learned the hard way in that thing | 03:38 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Even down to the workarounds for when vendors are stupid with `aboot` and the cmdline | 03:39 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Oh! There's a PR that you'll need | 03:41 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> https://github.com/ubports/ubports-boot/pull/8 | 03:41 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Pull that, it'll make things much easier. | 03:41 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Okay | 03:42 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Btw, I saw no huge issues with e2fsck | 03:42 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Great | 03:42 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Must have been a fluke for me, then | 03:43 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> I triple checked this time that e2fsck was done indeed.. and not like last time | 03:43 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> 😆 | 03:43 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> So did I | 03:43 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> @UniversalSuperBox, You'll need this | 03:43 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Okay yeah | 03:43 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> But the rootfs actually boots without it... | 03:44 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Somehow | 03:44 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Well halium rootfs wouldn't have issues | 03:44 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Everything is read-only, but systemd don't care | 03:44 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Or maybe systemd is remounting rw? | 03:44 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Oh | 03:44 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> @bhushanshah, Nope, I tried to touch some files | 03:44 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> No logging, obviously | 03:45 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Container didn't start... But ssh came up and it was ready to go | 03:45 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Alright, hope that works out for you... Otherwise I'll be back in about 8 hours | 03:46 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Okay | 03:47 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> (I'll try it on halium 5 device btw and not halium 7) | 03:47 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Shouldn't matter but my N5X is occupied | 03:47 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Shouldn't matter. | 03:48 |
| tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Oh! `mkdir /android` followed by a reboot will greatly help. That's where `/data` and such get mounted | 03:55 |
| tgBot3 | <bhushanshah> Ok | 03:55 |
| tgBot3 | <Xray2000> Would it be possible to install UT on a Meizu Pro 5 International Version ? | 05:11 |
| tgBot3 | <TartanSpartan> ^Mos def, I did exactly that and on the 64GB version no less. | 05:36 |
| tgBot3 | <Xray2000> Ok thanks yes i dont know if it would a 64GB version... | 05:38 |
| tgBot3 | <Xray2000> He say that it cost new 500 euro so i think it zould be the 64GB version... but i will ask him | 05:39 |
| tgBot3 | <TartanSpartan> I got my one for "95% new” whatever that means but for £165 or so, eBay, Chinese seller ^__^ | 05:45 |
| tgBot3 | <Xray2000> @TartanSpartan, Nice yes i try to found one into the EU, as here in Belgium you can not buy them only chinees version | 05:50 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> @ahsanit, Hello Kamil and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) | 07:33 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> @Javirojo, Hello Javi and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) | 07:34 |
| tgBot3 | <TomasOqvist> Anyone got a clue on this? Trying to go from UBPorts 15.04 to 16.04 on my Pro 5. … ~$ sudo ubuntu-device-flash —server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch —device=turbo —channel=ubports-touch/16.04/devel —bootstrap —wipe —verbose … [sudo] password for tomas: … 2018/01/09 08:58:26 Device is |turbo| … 2018/01/09 08:58:26 Flashing version 11 from ubports-touch/16.04/devel channel and server http://system-image.ubports.com t | 08:02 |
| tgBot3 | 08:58:37 Waiting for device to enter recovery mode ... … Failed to enter Recovery | 08:02 |
| tgBot3 | <TomasOqvist> (Photo, 1898x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/5UumZMkp/file_3662.jpg | 08:02 |
| tgBot3 | <TomasOqvist> This is my "recovery mode" | 08:03 |
| tgBot3 | <TomasOqvist> Just the Ubuntu logo, but not spinning or anything. | 08:03 |
| tgBot3 | <Xray2000> Hi guys would that be a ok to flash UT on it ? | 08:18 |
| tgBot3 | <Xray2000> 32GB … Modell M576H … I talk about the Meizu Pro 5 … And the software on it is Flyme 6.1.0.0G | 08:18 |
| tgBot3 | <TartanSpartan> Yes Rudi, as you asked me via PM, I think that will be just fine as it's the International version. | 08:32 |
| tgBot3 | <TartanSpartan> According to the first link in this screenshot, that should support my statement: | 08:33 |
| tgBot3 | <TartanSpartan> (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/RaCLkE5A/file_3664.jpg | 08:33 |
| tgBot3 | <TartanSpartan> I think the only one people have trouble with is the locked Chinese one which is different. And even with that I believe people can swap different Android variants onto it, unlock it and make it friendly to Ubuntu. But yeah, your Int version should work great if you flash it according to correct instructions. | 08:35 |
| tgBot3 | <KrisJacewicz> @TartanSpartan, China has some serious policy on locking down handsets. Over the years it came to a situationwhen my non-Chnese handsets will no longer accept Chinese SIM card, or will only allow calls, but not data, even if the SIM has data plan included. … Sure, I can go to one of big telecom headquarters and they can somehow unlock it, but if I buy any random handset in the Chinese domestic market, it will work out of the box. … It's al | 08:37 |
| tgBot3 | disturebing if you ask me. | 08:37 |
| tgBot3 | <TartanSpartan> Be that as it may, again, it's irrelevant to him because he's going for a sanctioned version. | 08:57 |
| tgBot3 | <HenryOne> People with OnePlus devices, have a vote here: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/question-of-the-week-31-operating-system-and-custom-roms.743631/ | 09:03 |
| tgBot3 | <Xray2000> Ok thanks | 09:12 |
| tgBot3 | DadoUnyu was added by: DadoUnyu | 09:41 |
| tgBot3 | <peternerlich> Hi @DadoUnyu! I'm part of the Welcoming Team. To get you started, please take a look at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome and feel free to ask any question, especially in the Newcomers Room! | 09:44 |
| tgBot3 | <Lukas Wolfskin> Hey folks, anyone know if therese will be any development towards exchange support in Dekko? @DanChapman | 10:22 |
| tgBot3 | <Lukas Wolfskin> Damn auto spell... | 10:22 |
| tgBot3 | <Lukas Wolfskin> (Sticker, 336x512) https://irc.ubports.com/8Vyn7nLP/file_3665 | 10:22 |
| tgBot3 | <Christopher> hey everyone I'd like to use an android program called anki —would it be possible to do this w/ ubports now or any time soon? | 10:23 |
| tgBot3 | <Lukas Wolfskin> There, not Therese | 10:23 |
| tgBot3 | <DanChapman> @Lukas Wolfskin, Yes but not in the near future | 10:31 |
| tgBot3 | <popescu_sorin> Fwd from bhdouglass: As teased earlier: https://github.com/bhdouglass/clickable/releases/tag/v3.1.0 … Clickable now has a `--desktop` argument that you can use to run your app on the desktop! Not quite an emulator and your mileage may vary. Please let me know of your experiences good & bad! | 10:33 |
| tgBot3 | <Christopher> I'm reading the community update and it looks like the meizu pro is the device that gets support for features first | 10:36 |
| tgBot3 | <Christopher> support for snaps and anbox are mentioned for that device specifically... | 10:37 |
| tgBot3 | <Christopher> I wish I had one of those rather than a nexus 5 | 10:37 |
| tgBot3 | <malditobastardo> @Christopher, patience, everything is WIP and still green | 10:56 |
| tgBot3 | <lduboeuf> humm, question everyone: my BQ E4.5 have already very small amount of free memory ( without running any app, data disabled ) on 15.04, i have doubt it will support 16.04 | 10:56 |
| tgBot3 | <malditobastardo> Eventually every core device will receive the update | 10:56 |
| tgBot3 | <malditobastardo> right now anbox is not useful its just for debugging | 10:57 |
| tgBot3 | <YougoChats> @wayneoutthere | 11:02 |
| tgBot3 | <YougoChats> Fwd from YougoChats: Has someone gone through the trouble of mapping/listing UT/ubports related telegram groups and their puroposes? Would be nice to have an overview without having to stumble upon them and having to join them to see what they're about | 11:02 |
| tgBot3 | PsP238 was added by: PsP238 | 11:09 |
| tgBot3 | <peternerlich> Hey @PsP238! I'm part of the Welcoming Team. Please check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get up to speed and feel free to ask any question, especially in the Newcomers Room! | 11:12 |
| tgBot3 | <Christopher> @popescu_sorin those videos look awesome | 11:13 |
| tgBot3 | <Christopher> also out of curiosity, are there any user-visible differences with ubports 16.04? | 11:16 |
| tgBot3 | <PsP238> redmi note 4 support Ubuntu touch? | 11:18 |
| tgBot3 | <peternerlich> @PsP238, (from the FAQ:) Due to limited time and resources, we are not porting to new devices until the 16.04 rebase is finished. … You can see a list of devices where ports are in the works at https://ubports.com/page/devices - click on any of the links to find out more about the state of the images in question.__ | 11:27 |
| tgBot3 | <vanyasem> @peternerlich, that is false | 11:28 |
| tgBot3 | <popescu_sorin> @Christopher, no | 11:28 |
| tgBot3 | <vanyasem> we are porting new devices to Halium, which is UBports 16.04 is based on | 11:28 |
| tgBot3 | <vanyasem> but there is no Xiaomi port anyways, so that doesn't really matter | 11:29 |
| tgBot3 | <peternerlich> Oh, is it? We'll need to update the FAQ then | 11:29 |
| tgBot3 | <vanyasem> I will tellyou more — we got 2 new devices ported this weel | 11:29 |
| tgBot3 | <vanyasem> we're not porting to legacy non-halium base | 11:30 |
| tgBot3 | <peternerlich> But I though I read that the switch to Halium will be made a few updates into the 16.04 rebase (just heard) | 11:30 |
| tgBot3 | <Lukas Wolfskin> @DanChapman, Cheers! | 11:30 |
| tgBot3 | <vanyasem> @peternerlich, I honestly have no idea about that, I don't really work on UBports. I mainly work on Halium and Plasma Mobile | 11:31 |
| tgBot3 | <Christopher> @vanyasem will ubports work with newish devices through the support of halium? like new samsung devices? | 11:33 |
| tgBot3 | <vanyasem> @Christopher, Halium is not a magic thing that enables support for all the devices you want | 11:33 |
| tgBot3 | <vanyasem> so that's a solid no | 11:34 |
| tgBot3 | <vanyasem> Samsung is a pain in the ass to work with overall | 11:34 |
| tgBot3 | <vanyasem> we have added support for some new devices like HTC 10, OP3, and OP5 | 11:35 |
| tgBot3 | <kristijantkalec> Houston we have a problem 😱 | 11:47 |
| tgBot3 | <kristijantkalec> The soupergroup disappeared on the desktop version of telegram | 11:47 |
| tgBot3 | <kristijantkalec> Any idea why? | 11:48 |
| tgBot3 | <kristijantkalec> And there is also someone from the fairphone 2 + ubuntu touch group with the same expirience... | 11:48 |
| tgBot3 | <YougoChats> Same here. Desktop app is affected, iOS is ok, UT app is ok, web app is ok. | 12:14 |
| tgBot3 | <Daniel> That was me. For me they are back. | 12:14 |
| tgBot3 | <kristijantkalec> ok, the desktop version is back 😅 | 12:15 |
| tgBot3 | <YougoChats> Yup, back here too. I think because I posted in the group? | 12:15 |
| tgBot3 | <YougoChats> Glitch in the Matrix. | 12:16 |
| tgBot3 | <DC7IA> @YougoChats, Excuse me, where can I leave the Matrix? | 12:24 |
| tgBot3 | <YougoChats> Walk up to the nearest Agent, slap him across the face and stare at him with a shit eating grin. You’ll be out (and recycled) in no time | 12:25 |
| tgBot3 | <DC7IA> *googles How to skip recycling by the matrix* | 12:31 |
| tgBot3 | Ahmad Musaffa was added by: Ahmad Musaffa | 12:33 |
| tgBot3 | <Cesar_Herrera> I's there a command line to view the hour in GPS? | 12:35 |
| tgBot3 | <Mark> @lduboeuf, I've corrently got (out of 7.7GB) 3.1GB free and 3.2 GB used by Ubuntu. Within the expected limitations of an older phone that seems fine to me. 16.04 might leave it a bit tight for memory but, in my non-expert view, still workable as long as I keep it clean and don't expect too much of it. | 12:45 |
| tgBot3 | <Mark> @Mark, currently not corrently :) | 12:45 |
| tgBot3 | <lduboeuf> humm your talsking about disk usage not ram, here without anything open: around 750Mo... only 250 free memory 😱 | 12:48 |
| tgBot3 | <lduboeuf> unity8 (core + dash) is responsible for 30% of total | 12:49 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> @KrisJacewicz, that's messed up. check it out @exar_kun | 13:19 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> @YougoChats, thanks for comments. more than one person has been asking for this this week. we are trying to figure out how to present this becasuse some groups are fully public while others are 'open' but 'not to everyone'. Thanks for your patience, it's on our list. | 13:21 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> @DC7IA, flag this guy - he 'googles' | 13:23 |
| tgBot3 | <YougoChats> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/zbScrXuL/file_3666.mp4 | 13:28 |
| tgBot3 | <Rekols> 😔😄 | 13:49 |
| tgBot3 | <peternerlich> Welcome Ahmad! I'm part of the Welcoming Team. To get started, check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome and feel free to ask any question, especially in the Newcomers Room! | 13:53 |
| tgBot3 | <Rekols> 😃😃😃😃😃😃 | 13:55 |
| tgBot3 | <Rekols> https://github.com/rekols/deepin-font-installer | 13:58 |
| tgBot3 | <Rekols> hello | 13:58 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> A news item with exciting updates to Clickable has just been dropped in the UBports News Channel. To learn more about this news be sure to subscribe to the News Channel here: https://t.me/ubports_news | 14:33 |
| tgBot3 | <Flohack> @vanyasem, Well lets say its false for Halium-based OSes. Its true for UT. Since none of the UT core members focusing on porting now. Still a few of them are porting in their free time :) | 14:41 |
| tgBot3 | <vanyasem> @Flohack, UBports 16.04 is Halium based | 14:42 |
| tgBot3 | <Flohack> @vanyasem, I know ;) | 14:43 |
| tgBot3 | <Javacookies> @vanyasem, current builds already use Halium?? | 14:49 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> Not afaik | 15:03 |
| tgBot3 | <samzn> https://youtu.be/PnvvHAf2H-0 | 15:17 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> meh | 15:26 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> @samzn, yeah... i don't know. i'm between 'meh' and 'hmm' … I think UT convergence is still the only way to go: Buy a really great mobile device and then make plugging into *any* screen easy and awesome.... | 15:31 |
| tgBot3 | <samzn> @wayneoutthere, well, we can converge this | 15:31 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> yeah..... true dat... that's why I have some 'hmm' | 15:32 |
| tgBot3 | desertjellyfish was added by: desertjellyfish | 15:33 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> but... screen... i don't know. too small? well, I think you're right. this has some value right now becuase there is not an existing infrastructure for 'public convergence'. and... now that I think about it, you can't really have a 'public convergence' becuase then the public will see your screen.... unless it was like a 1950's phone booth... which is pretty cool. | 15:34 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> well if someone ports to the razer phone i guess | 15:35 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> @desertjellyfish, Hey @desertjellyfish I'm part of the Welcoming Team. Please check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get up to speed. There is a Newcomers room as well for you. Thanks for joining! | 15:36 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> @wayneoutthere, I can easily read most people's cell phones today, from a distance. | 15:36 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> @dohbee, haha. this is facxt | 15:36 |
| tgBot3 | <desertjellyfish> @wayneoutthere, :) | 15:36 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> @Javacookies, how can I copy the `system-connections` folder? I've tried with `adb pull` but it copies an empty folder, I copied in the `Documents` folder and then tried to copy the folder from nautilus but it can copy only the empty folder and says acces denied to the files... | 15:40 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> @Michele, needs root permissions to read. | 15:42 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> oh yes, I forgot to say I tried also with sudo | 15:43 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> You need to activate it on the device | 15:44 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> copy the dir with sudo to ~/, then change ownership of the files on the copied dir (`sudo chown -R phablet.phablet ~/system-connections` for example) | 15:44 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> then you should be able to read as normal user or over mtp | 15:45 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> ah ok, thanks I tried to `chmod 777` but I didn't think to change the owner! | 15:48 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> oops, I was wrong... I can't copy the folder to my home on the phone... | 16:01 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> Go settings on phone and about and enable developer mode | 16:08 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> I already have it enabled | 16:09 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/JBo3hwpX/file_3668.jpg | 16:09 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> This? | 16:09 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> yep | 16:09 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> Restart needed | 16:10 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> oh sure 😂😂 | 16:10 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/gPn9Nzrd/file_3669.webp | 16:10 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> ```$ sudo cp system-connections/ ~/Documents/ … [sudo] password for phablet: … cp: omitting directory ‘system-connections/’``` | 16:12 |
| tgBot3 | drguell was added by: drguell | 16:14 |
| tgBot3 | <petya230> Use -r | 16:14 |
| tgBot3 | <drguell> Hi! | 16:14 |
| tgBot3 | <petya230> Hi | 16:14 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> @petya230, or -a | 16:15 |
| tgBot3 | <petya230> sudo cp -r system-connections/ ~/Documents/ | 16:15 |
| tgBot3 | <petya230> -a? | 16:15 |
| tgBot3 | <petya230> Hm | 16:15 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> @petya230, thanks it worked | 16:15 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> all | 16:15 |
| tgBot3 | <petya230> ohhh | 16:15 |
| tgBot3 | <petya230> I see | 16:16 |
| tgBot3 | <petya230> @dohbee, Thanks :D | 16:16 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> I copied the directory to the phone home, but I can't copy to the pc via adb neither via nautilus | 16:25 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> ```$ sudo adb pull Documents/system-connections ~/Scrivania/ … adb: error: failed to copy 'Documents/system-connections/iiss-greppi' to '/home/mike/Scrivania/system-connections/iiss-greppi': Permission denied``` | 16:26 |
| tgBot3 | <peternerlich> @drguell, Hi! I'm part of the Welcoming Team. Please take a look at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get up to speed and feel free to ask any question, especially in the Newcomers Room! | 16:26 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> @Michele, Tory different cable | 16:34 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> Try | 16:34 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> but it worked for another file... | 16:35 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> me no more ideas, just the 😂PC restart | 16:37 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> 😂 ok thanks anyway | 16:37 |
| tgBot3 | <Cesar_Herrera> @KrisJacewicz I want to control the rp3 trought the Bluetooth of the phone. Writing commans as if I had an ssh connection, but without wifi. I'd like if you could give me some tutorial. Thanks. | 16:56 |
| tgBot3 | <Javacookies> do Slimport VGA adapters work on Nexus 5? I guess not? I believe it doesn't on Nexus 7 2013 | 16:59 |
| tgBot3 | <KrisJacewicz> @Cesar_Herrera, see here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=36889 … however bt is not very fast. x forwarding almost certainly will be a bad experience. Normal ssh however should be usable unless you deal with a shit load of output on the stdout/stderr | 17:11 |
| tgBot3 | <Cesar_Herrera> @KrisJacewicz, I wanted use the rp3 without wifi nor hub. I'll see your direction. | 17:14 |
| tgBot3 | <KrisJacewicz> @Cesar_Herrera, but your ut can be hotspot and raspi can connect to it. no need for hub/router | 17:16 |
| tgBot3 | <KrisJacewicz> you hv LAN between ut and raspi | 17:17 |
| tgBot3 | <Cesar_Herrera> @KrisJacewicz, Even if I disconnect data? | 17:18 |
| tgBot3 | <KrisJacewicz> @Cesar_Herrera, yes 5hen u just hv LAN but without WAN/Internet | 17:19 |
| tgBot3 | <malditobastardo> good idea about the hotspot | 17:20 |
| tgBot3 | <Cesar_Herrera> I'll say you later. Thanks. | 17:20 |
| tgBot3 | <KrisJacewicz> by turning hotspot on your ut it basically becomes your wireless router for your own LAN | 17:21 |
| tgBot3 | <kristijantkalec> @Javacookies, I tried micro hdmi to vga adapter with m10 fhd on 15.04 and it didn't work | 17:21 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> @KrisJacewicz, You don't use bluetooth to forward the display. You use it to send short commands. | 17:33 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> "high speed" bt can also get a few Mbps by using wifi, which is why bt/wifi is always in the same module now | 17:38 |
| tgBot3 | <xreactx> Looking forward to testing out anbox on the OnePlus One... ::Impatiently waiting:: | 18:10 |
| tgBot3 | <Ratattuile> Good when it leaves the anbox? | 18:18 |
| tgBot3 | <DC7IA> @Ratattuile, When what leaves Anbox? | 18:26 |
| tgBot3 | <Gleb Lee 🇸🇨> Hi. Is it possible to use ssh to connect to UTouch and browse files (via Nautilus, like ssh://username@servername.example.com/folder)? | 18:45 |
| tgBot3 | <Gleb Lee 🇸🇨> It supposed to be better than adb - no wires, easy connection. | 18:47 |
| tgBot3 | <TartanSpartan> Questions I've never seen regarding the web browser app. I think you've optimised much better than Canonical managed. The most striking thing is you can have dozens and dozens of tabs up. | 18:47 |
| tgBot3 | <stuiterveer> You can use the built-in terminal if you’d like, I don’t know if inbound SSH is supported | 18:47 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> @Gleb Lee 🇸🇨, if you enable the ssh gadget, yes. but the connection becomes a bit unreliable when the screen locks and the phone tries to suspend | 18:48 |
| tgBot3 | <TartanSpartan> Canonical seemed to hard limit the recovery of those tabs to a max of 10. So, is there a theoretical maximum under Ubports? How does it affect performance in terms of RAM and CPU usage as you increase the number of tabs? Most of them aren't active as you use them | 18:49 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> @TartanSpartan, i don't think anything has changed there really | 18:49 |
| tgBot3 | <stuiterveer> @dohbee, In that case use the tweak tool in order to keep it open in the background. I don’t know which app you need to allow to keep active in the background though | 18:49 |
| tgBot3 | <TartanSpartan> The tab limit, at least, has definitely been increased. | 18:52 |
| tgBot3 | <Gleb Lee 🇸🇨> @stuiterveer, It is possible to enable any app/process work in background, like ssh agent, am I right? I just have not UT on phone now so can't check what is in Tweak Tool options. | 18:53 |
| tgBot3 | <stuiterveer> @Gleb Lee 🇸🇨, If I’m not mistaken you can select apps, but not specific processes. Your best bet is to try each app one by one (or enable them all for a nuclear option) and see if this makes the connection still work when on standby | 18:54 |
| tgBot3 | <Javacookies> @dohbee, is this true? in my experience, ssh works fine even when the phone locks, actually x forwarding works fine as well.. | 18:57 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> @Javacookies, well it was true for me. ssh would get a bit slow after a while | 18:58 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> tbf it's been literally like a whole year since i probably did this | 18:58 |
| tgBot3 | <Gleb Lee 🇸🇨> Very interesting, thanks all! SSH is a good option to move files by air in order to compensate lack of KDE Connect tools. | 18:59 |
| tgBot3 | <Javacookies> @Gleb Lee 🇸🇨, just copy your client's public key to your phones authorized_keys file and you are good to go and well enable ssh sudo android-gadget-service enable ssh | 18:59 |
| tgBot3 | <KrisJacewicz> @Gleb Lee 🇸🇨, yes u can use sshfs, see here: … https://kriscode.blogspot.tw/2017/12/ssh-and-ubuntu-touch.html?m=1#sshfs | 19:13 |
| tgBot3 | <KrisJacewicz> i barely exchange files any other way now than via nautilus. If my devixe is not connected via cable i use sshfs. | 19:17 |
| tgBot3 | Pedro was added by: Pedro | 19:22 |
| tgBot3 | <KrisJacewicz> also ssh session does not get affected by screen lock on none of my devices. I think the acreen lock only affects gui apps and only in the staged mode. … If you change mode to windowed the screen lock will not do anything. | 19:22 |
| tgBot3 | <Pedro> @malditobastardo, Are you from Spain? | 19:23 |
| tgBot3 | <KrisJacewicz> I wish this was also true when phone is in staged mode but connectes to power | 19:23 |
| tgBot3 | <mimecar> hi Pedro | 19:23 |
| tgBot3 | <Pedro> Miguel !!! | 19:23 |
| tgBot3 | <peternerlich> Welcome Pedro! I'm part of the Welcoming Team. Please look at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get up to speed and feel free to ask anything, especially in the Newcomers Room! | 19:23 |
| tgBot3 | <Pedro> Hello again | 19:23 |
| tgBot3 | <Pedro> I'm in the group again | 19:24 |
| tgBot3 | <peternerlich> @Pedro, Ah, you're returning? | 19:24 |
| tgBot3 | <peternerlich> Welcome back then! | 19:24 |
| tgBot3 | <mimecar> there's a spanish group of UBports, Do you know the name? | 19:24 |
| tgBot3 | <peternerlich> @mimecar, @UBports_Es | 19:25 |
| tgBot3 | <mimecar> yes 😋 | 19:25 |
| tgBot3 | <Pedro> Yes Peter - I uninstalled Telegram few months ago | 19:25 |
| tgBot3 | <Pedro> Thanks | 19:25 |
| tgBot3 | <Pedro> Beautiful - spanish group | 19:26 |
| tgBot3 | <Pedro> I'm going to there - we keep in touch | 19:27 |
| tgBot3 | <peternerlich> Nice! We finally need to get the UBFR assistant bot finished to easily tell us new from returnning users etc. and makes sure we don't forget anyone... The dork responsible probably thinks other stuff is more important... | 19:27 |
| tgBot3 | <peternerlich> @Pedro, While you're here, be sure to hoin @UBports_News! | 19:28 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> @KrisJacewicz, not the screen lock itself but the "phone tries to go to sleep" bit is what matters. screen lock is merely a visual indicator | 19:28 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> @KrisJacewicz, Also, windowed mode has no bearing on apps being paused when backgrounded. apps that get paused will get paused regardless of windowing mode | 19:29 |
| tgBot3 | <Pedro> @peternerlich, I'm joined - anyway I think I'll be here(english group) because is a good way todo improcedente the lenguage. I need It … 😉 | 19:30 |
| tgBot3 | <Pedro> @Pedro, What the ... Good way to improve the lenguage ... | 19:32 |
| tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> I think you already improcedented the language. Nice work! I also improcedente English. It's such a broken language so anything helps | 19:37 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> @KrisJacewicz, Hi, something weird is happening to me opening your https://kriscode.blogspot.co.uk , it is switching to https://kriscode.blogspot.cz | 19:39 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/eTVdbMjZ/file_3673.jpg | 19:41 |
| tgBot3 | <criztovyl> for me it changes to ...blogger.de, i think that's intentional. | 19:44 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> but I dont see anything else and cannot scrool nothing | 19:45 |
| tgBot3 | <criztovyl> have you checked you script blogger? | 19:45 |
| tgBot3 | <criztovyl> *your | 19:46 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> addblock | 19:47 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> I am sorry | 19:47 |
| tgBot3 | <criztovyl> also maybe try uBlock instead of ABP, I claim it to be a little bit better :D | 19:49 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> I completely forgot it is there, thanks Christoph | 19:50 |
| tgBot3 | <criztovyl> no problem, we're all humans. :) | 19:50 |
| tgBot3 | <milkor73> 👍 | 19:53 |
| tgBot3 | <gefa67> Hi, after OTA-3 "sudo apt-get install libunwind8" says "E: Unable to locate package libunwind8". Any ideas? | 20:03 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> @gefa67, in a chroot? libertine? what? | 20:21 |
| tgBot3 | <gefa67> It's a ssh session on nexus5 | 20:24 |
| tgBot3 | <malditobastardo> https://puri.sm/posts/happy-new-year-purism-goals-for-2018/ | 20:26 |
| tgBot3 | <malditobastardo> So they are releasing a tablet? | 20:27 |
| tgBot3 | <mimecar> "Produce great documentation for developers to write applications into PureOS" | 20:28 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> @malditobastardo, yes/no. it's the elusive "librem 11" | 20:28 |
| tgBot3 | <mimecar> documentation and lower prize would be nice | 20:28 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> @gefa67, you're trying to install something into the rootfs with apt? | 20:28 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> price is fine | 20:29 |
| tgBot3 | <gefa67> @dohbee, Yes | 20:30 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> well you need to run apt-get update before apt will find anything, but it's generally better to create a chroot and install things there instead of in rootfs | 20:31 |
| tgBot3 | <gefa67> Ok, will try it with chroot, I thought it works different in Ota2... | 20:33 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> where can I find the sms history on ut? | 20:33 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/OIVIZORt/file_3675.jpg | 20:42 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> it should be under ~/.loca/sharel somewhere, i think "nuntium" or "history-service" perhaps | 20:44 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> thank you | 20:46 |
| tgBot3 | <gefa67> @dohbee, Is libertine the recommended one? | 20:59 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> @gefa67, Yes | 21:00 |
| tgBot3 | <Michele> is someoneelse having vibrations issues with the n5? it just works random for me: when I tap a button, an icon in the header of an app it should vibrate but 19 times out of 20 it doesn't work. … I think it isn't an hardware problem because if I enable the vibration on the keyboard it works well... | 21:36 |
| tgBot3 | <vince1171> why ubuntu-sdk-ide and clickable can't be installed in the same time (if I install one, the other is removed... )? | 21:52 |
| tgBot3 | <TronFortyTwo> @vince1171, Probably a dependencies conflicts. | 22:15 |
| tgBot3 | <vince1171> @TronFortyTwo, ok I will see that twomorrow | 22:21 |
| tgBot3 | <tomrhodes> Hi, does the Xapp app in the open store mean that there's a new simpler libertine setup? | 22:22 |
| tgBot3 | <gefa67> @dohbee, Thanks, will try it... | 22:22 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> @tomrhodes, ap, or scope? | 22:28 |
| tgBot3 | <tomrhodes> good point it's the scope, was the liberty scope right? | 22:29 |
| tgBot3 | <tomrhodes> libertine even | 22:29 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> libertine scope yes | 22:31 |
| tgBot3 | <dohbee> it's just a launcher for apps installed in libertine containers | 22:31 |
| tgBot3 | <tomrhodes> ok I got excited about nothing then it's the scope we used to install through the old store then... | 22:32 |
| tgBot3 | RavengamerSpace was added by: RavengamerSpace | 22:48 |
| tgBot3 | <peternerlich> Hi @RavengamerSpace! I'm part of the Welcoming Team. Please read https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get up to speed and feel free to ask any question, especially in the Newcomers Room! | 22:51 |
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