[00:09] @mariogrip, no!?? I'm right!? How about the Say Ubuntu app?? [00:10] @mariogrip, and how about our recommended way of contacting you? :) [00:10] @dariusc93, kick butt and have fun! [00:12] Does anyone here have a link for me to the plasma mobile telegram? [00:17] @XavierXX, https://t.me/plasmamobile [00:19] @wayneoutthere, i feel targeted [00:19] Thank you [00:44] @mariogrip, does it feel good or bad? I like getting targeted. Where is @bhushanshah ? [00:45] Also we always take recommendations for targeting. [00:45] If we target you is usually means we love you. [00:45] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/PjBF0IA0/file_3659.mp4 [00:46] @wayneoutthere, Awwww! love all you guys too! ❤️ [00:46] Public Announcement: Yes, we have targeted Marius and his poor Ubuntu pronunciation, but it is out of love and care. [00:47] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/P8o8xVzC/file_3660.mp4 [00:50] @mariogrip @UniversalSuperBox I remember seeing some issue about ofobo and other configs but can't find the issue now... Got link? [00:50] Yes [00:50] https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/409 [00:51] @bhushanshah, ah yes, that's the idea of combinding it all into one central config file [00:51] (this sounds like a job for Halium 👀) [00:51] yeah [00:52] Hm, can this issue be moved to halium projectmanagement? [00:52] I wonder [00:52] I have started slightly on a compat for this [00:52] Because this is issue I'm looking into [00:52] @bhushanshah, sure [00:52] But I don't think this is Launchpad [00:53] Bah, i'll put it there [00:53] gets email [00:53] never mind [00:53] What's with the camera permissions on the fp2? Gone again? [00:54] FWIW, it will be really hard to use one config and get away with it, and also e.g there are some plasma mobile specific configs I want to include in the device image... So first initial solution would be to add support for utouch like overlay in the hybris boot [00:54] @mariogrip, this is just a simple python script that reads one config and creates the format the different components expect [00:54] And then think about one config file [00:54] @bhushanshah, ubports-boot does that. :/ [00:55] @UniversalSuperBox, yes :) and so much more [00:55] I know, I'm back and forth on it. It's just... We're going to find every issue that was solved by it while we try to replace it [00:56] @UniversalSuperBox, Not that I like that solution [00:56] What would you prefer? [00:57] It's just interim solution I feel like, I would prefer a solution which is either 1 config file or completely out of initrd solution [00:58] You said it yourself, you have some PM-specific things you want to include [00:58] @UniversalSuperBox, and you can so easely do that with ubports-boot [00:58] Tbh, again I'm not sure if it's PM specific btw ^^^ [00:58] it's just that, it has all the feauters we want, why try to recreate that? insted focuse on improving what we have [00:59] It's gst-omx and gst Droid Configuration files [00:59] also it's libc :) not that damn bionic [00:59] Mhmm. There are some things that aren't needed in ubports-boot, maybe the 'local' and 'nfs' scripts. Those can be removed. [00:59] Which might or not be useful for utouch [00:59] I agree that it's not simple, but out of that complexity comes a very reliable system [01:01] It's exactly what I'm finding with the hybris-boot compatibility. Every issue that we're going to hit using hybris-boot is already solved by engineers who work(ed) in embedded systems and were paid very well to do so. [01:02] Every filesystem corruption, udev dependency, mountpoint hit-or-miss... [01:06] @UniversalSuperBox, Initially reason for not using ubports boot was, mainly it did get in way of booting systemd as far as I remember and it was hard to debug it.. but not fully sure [01:06] I'll dig irc logs and figure out why we choose hybris boot [01:06] Well, now I have a better understanding of it. Maybe I could help out. [01:07] (We'd also rename it, to be clear. ;) ) [01:07] Yeah right 😂 [01:07] That was another issue (not) [01:07] 😛 [01:08] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [01:09] If need be for debugging, we could probably add more breakpoints. Just for good measure. [01:09] Actually, no maybe. We could do that. `maybe-break "breakpoint"` [01:11] I think it figured out why it got in the way of systemd, and it's probably the same reason that hybris-boot got in the way of upstart [01:12] No that was not it, I believe it even worked for Marius once.. but for me and others never [01:12] Aha, it uses `run_init` rather than `switch_root` for one [01:12] Well run_init is wrapper around switch root no? [01:13] https://askubuntu.com/questions/744128/what-is-run-init-actually [01:13] They're basically the same thing [01:16] Btw.. @mariogrip first ping about libcompat in new year [01:16] 😆 [01:16] I TOLD YOU THAT WOULD HAPPEN! [01:16] :P [01:17] I have been bugging him as you asked, @bhushanshah [01:21] @dohbee, +1 [01:29] @UniversalSuperBox, nice work! now bug @bhushanshah too [01:30] @bhushanshah, I will have it ready for our halium meeting :) [01:30] or before [01:35] So, uh, @bhushanshah [01:35] hybris-boot booted Halium on the first try [01:35] Darn it, did it again [01:35] ubports-boot [02:24] ahsanit was added by: ahsanit [02:31] Javirojo was added by: Javirojo [03:24] @UniversalSuperBox, Interesting, I suppose that will require changes on userspace side? [03:30] Meaning? [03:31] Well to start container I believe, changes in rootfs will be needed? [03:32] Possibly a few, I was pretty phased out on work by the time I got there [03:33] Ubports-boot actually gives us a lot more in terms of the container. It mounts the Android initrd, puts vendor in the right place, mounts all the partitions [03:34] You can also provide /data/.writable_image if you please to enable rw / [03:34] Okay I'll experiment more about it [03:34] Right, let me know where you get and I'll see if I can take it from there [03:35] One thing, it does require you to change your fstab to put `/dev/mmcblk...` in data's line. [03:36] That's not great, but could probably be solved right quick since we already have fixup-mountpoints [03:36] Right [03:37] Or some usage of findfs / blkid maybe [03:37] No `block` BTW, we don't symlink dev into dev block [03:37] I think there's a reason that Canonical didn't do thay [03:37] Device vendors being not sane? [03:38] Yeo [03:38] And not labeling partition correctly [03:38] -.- [03:38] Yep [03:38] Looking at the initrd, it feels like there were lots of lessons learned the hard way in that thing [03:39] Even down to the workarounds for when vendors are stupid with `aboot` and the cmdline [03:41] Oh! There's a PR that you'll need [03:41] https://github.com/ubports/ubports-boot/pull/8 [03:41] Pull that, it'll make things much easier. [03:42] Okay [03:42] Btw, I saw no huge issues with e2fsck [03:42] Great [03:43] Must have been a fluke for me, then [03:43] I triple checked this time that e2fsck was done indeed.. and not like last time [03:43] 😆 [03:43] So did I [03:43] @UniversalSuperBox, You'll need this [03:43] Okay yeah [03:44] But the rootfs actually boots without it... [03:44] Somehow [03:44] Well halium rootfs wouldn't have issues [03:44] Everything is read-only, but systemd don't care [03:44] Or maybe systemd is remounting rw? [03:44] Oh [03:44] @bhushanshah, Nope, I tried to touch some files [03:45] No logging, obviously [03:45] Container didn't start... But ssh came up and it was ready to go [03:46] Alright, hope that works out for you... Otherwise I'll be back in about 8 hours [03:47] Okay [03:47] (I'll try it on halium 5 device btw and not halium 7) [03:47] Shouldn't matter but my N5X is occupied [03:48] Shouldn't matter. [03:55] Oh! `mkdir /android` followed by a reboot will greatly help. That's where `/data` and such get mounted [03:55] Ok [05:11] Would it be possible to install UT on a Meizu Pro 5 International Version ? [05:36] ^Mos def, I did exactly that and on the 64GB version no less. [05:38] Ok thanks yes i dont know if it would a 64GB version... [05:39] He say that it cost new 500 euro so i think it zould be the 64GB version... but i will ask him [05:45] I got my one for "95% new” whatever that means but for £165 or so, eBay, Chinese seller ^__^ [05:50] @TartanSpartan, Nice yes i try to found one into the EU, as here in Belgium you can not buy them only chinees version [07:33] @ahsanit, Hello Kamil and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) [07:34] @Javirojo, Hello Javi and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) [08:02] Anyone got a clue on this? Trying to go from UBPorts 15.04 to 16.04 on my Pro 5. … ~$ sudo ubuntu-device-flash —server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch —device=turbo —channel=ubports-touch/16.04/devel —bootstrap —wipe —verbose … [sudo] password for tomas: … 2018/01/09 08:58:26 Device is |turbo| … 2018/01/09 08:58:26 Flashing version 11 from ubports-touch/16.04/devel channel and server http://system-image.ubports.com t [08:02] 08:58:37 Waiting for device to enter recovery mode ... … Failed to enter Recovery [08:02] (Photo, 1898x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/5UumZMkp/file_3662.jpg [08:03] This is my "recovery mode" [08:03] Just the Ubuntu logo, but not spinning or anything. [08:18] Hi guys would that be a ok to flash UT on it ? [08:18] 32GB … Modell M576H … I talk about the Meizu Pro 5 … And the software on it is Flyme 6.1.0.0G [08:32] Yes Rudi, as you asked me via PM, I think that will be just fine as it's the International version. [08:33] According to the first link in this screenshot, that should support my statement: [08:33] (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/RaCLkE5A/file_3664.jpg [08:35] I think the only one people have trouble with is the locked Chinese one which is different. And even with that I believe people can swap different Android variants onto it, unlock it and make it friendly to Ubuntu. But yeah, your Int version should work great if you flash it according to correct instructions. [08:37] @TartanSpartan, China has some serious policy on locking down handsets. Over the years it came to a situationwhen my non-Chnese handsets will no longer accept Chinese SIM card, or will only allow calls, but not data, even if the SIM has data plan included. … Sure, I can go to one of big telecom headquarters and they can somehow unlock it, but if I buy any random handset in the Chinese domestic market, it will work out of the box. … It's al [08:37] disturebing if you ask me. [08:57] Be that as it may, again, it's irrelevant to him because he's going for a sanctioned version. [09:03] People with OnePlus devices, have a vote here: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/question-of-the-week-31-operating-system-and-custom-roms.743631/ [09:12] Ok thanks [09:41] DadoUnyu was added by: DadoUnyu [09:44] Hi @DadoUnyu! I'm part of the Welcoming Team. To get you started, please take a look at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome and feel free to ask any question, especially in the Newcomers Room! [10:22] Hey folks, anyone know if therese will be any development towards exchange support in Dekko? @DanChapman [10:22] Damn auto spell... [10:22] (Sticker, 336x512) https://irc.ubports.com/8Vyn7nLP/file_3665 [10:23] hey everyone I'd like to use an android program called anki —would it be possible to do this w/ ubports now or any time soon? [10:23] There, not Therese [10:31] @Lukas Wolfskin, Yes but not in the near future [10:33] Fwd from bhdouglass: As teased earlier: https://github.com/bhdouglass/clickable/releases/tag/v3.1.0 … Clickable now has a `--desktop` argument that you can use to run your app on the desktop! Not quite an emulator and your mileage may vary. Please let me know of your experiences good & bad! [10:36] I'm reading the community update and it looks like the meizu pro is the device that gets support for features first [10:37] support for snaps and anbox are mentioned for that device specifically... [10:37] I wish I had one of those rather than a nexus 5 [10:56] @Christopher, patience, everything is WIP and still green [10:56] humm, question everyone: my BQ E4.5 have already very small amount of free memory ( without running any app, data disabled ) on 15.04, i have doubt it will support 16.04 [10:56] Eventually every core device will receive the update [10:57] right now anbox is not useful its just for debugging [11:02] @wayneoutthere [11:02] Fwd from YougoChats: Has someone gone through the trouble of mapping/listing UT/ubports related telegram groups and their puroposes? Would be nice to have an overview without having to stumble upon them and having to join them to see what they're about [11:09] PsP238 was added by: PsP238 [11:12] Hey @PsP238! I'm part of the Welcoming Team. Please check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get up to speed and feel free to ask any question, especially in the Newcomers Room! [11:13] @popescu_sorin those videos look awesome [11:16] also out of curiosity, are there any user-visible differences with ubports 16.04? [11:18] redmi note 4 support Ubuntu touch? [11:27] @PsP238, (from the FAQ:) Due to limited time and resources, we are not porting to new devices until the 16.04 rebase is finished. … You can see a list of devices where ports are in the works at https://ubports.com/page/devices - click on any of the links to find out more about the state of the images in question.__ [11:28] @peternerlich, that is false [11:28] @Christopher, no [11:28] we are porting new devices to Halium, which is UBports 16.04 is based on [11:29] but there is no Xiaomi port anyways, so that doesn't really matter [11:29] Oh, is it? We'll need to update the FAQ then [11:29] I will tellyou more — we got 2 new devices ported this weel [11:30] we're not porting to legacy non-halium base [11:30] But I though I read that the switch to Halium will be made a few updates into the 16.04 rebase (just heard) [11:30] @DanChapman, Cheers! [11:31] @peternerlich, I honestly have no idea about that, I don't really work on UBports. I mainly work on Halium and Plasma Mobile [11:33] @vanyasem will ubports work with newish devices through the support of halium? like new samsung devices? [11:33] @Christopher, Halium is not a magic thing that enables support for all the devices you want [11:34] so that's a solid no [11:34] Samsung is a pain in the ass to work with overall [11:35] we have added support for some new devices like HTC 10, OP3, and OP5 [11:47] Houston we have a problem 😱 [11:47] The soupergroup disappeared on the desktop version of telegram [11:48] Any idea why? [11:48] And there is also someone from the fairphone 2 + ubuntu touch group with the same expirience... [12:14] Same here. Desktop app is affected, iOS is ok, UT app is ok, web app is ok. [12:14] That was me. For me they are back. [12:15] ok, the desktop version is back 😅 [12:15] Yup, back here too. I think because I posted in the group? [12:16] Glitch in the Matrix. [12:24] @YougoChats, Excuse me, where can I leave the Matrix? [12:25]