[06:05] <lotuspsychje> on unity lightdm handles the boot times from login to desktop, anyone knows how i can see what happens on gdm/gnome?
[06:14] <valorie> bootchart?
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> valorie: well i was looking for just gdm to desktop, normal boot times are good to me
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> valorie: seems like bionic takes a bit long to load to desktop
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> and i want to investigate
[06:16] <valorie> I'm not running it yet
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> valorie: should be the same on 17.10
[06:16] <valorie> I have the kubuntu backports already so I'm not expecting much change
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> ah cool
[06:17] <valorie> I hope the new kernel is already getting tons of testing
[06:17] <flocculant> lotuspsychje: does systemd-analyze blame do it ?
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> flocculant: let me try, but unity/xenial also have systemd right, and there i could see lightdm logs to desktop
[06:18] <flocculant> valorie: btw - kubuntu's tracker for artful .1 tracker is still wrong
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> flocculant: https://hastebin.com/etuxiqezap.go
[06:19] <flocculant> so apt is taking an age
[06:20] <valorie> what!
[06:20] <valorie> supposedly they were *all* changed
[06:20] <valorie> grrrrr
[06:20] <flocculant> lotuspsychje: 8.992s here
[06:20] <flocculant> valorie: ack
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> flocculant: what does apt daily do exactly
[06:20] <valorie> I've not been very successfully messing around with the qatracker site
[06:21] <flocculant> lotuspsychje: well I'm guessing here - but do you have it set to check for updates daily?
[06:21] <flocculant> coupled with lp being down still
[06:21] <flocculant> valorie: ping jibel in -release 
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> flocculant: yes i got unattended upgrades, but that is now default in ubuntu right?
[06:22] <flocculant> no idea whhat's default in ubuntu
[06:22] <flocculant> try changing that and seeing what the boot's like
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> hmm optional
[06:23] <flocculant> that said - I have it set to do daily and ~9s here
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> !info unattended-upgrades
[06:24] <flocculant> lotuspsychje: re gdm - no log for it in /var/log ?
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[06:24]  * flocculant runs out of time quickly 
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> ./var/log/gdsm4 folder empty
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> gdm3
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> flocculant: ok i set auto updates to never now
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> gonna reboot & test
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> flocculant: its out of the blame list now, but doesnt feel faster yet
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> i had a plymouth crash this week, does plymouth still load after login?
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> https://hastebin.com/oweravezej.go
[06:33] <flocculant> not sure tbh - but you've a plymouth service there taking 20s almost
[06:34]  * flocculant has to wander off into the day now 
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> kk mate tnx anyway
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> i already trimmed services down and fast ssd..
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> im gonna bug this
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2360253
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1742063
[08:26] <icey> any idea when Bionic's kernel will get the fixes fopr Meltdown/Spectre?
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> not sure icey 
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> they still in progress atm
[08:29] <valorie> icey: as I understand it, when they are thoroughly tested
[08:29] <valorie> and not until
[08:29] <icey> valorie: agreed, I understand that, I also understand that they are targeted at today across the board :-/
[08:30] <icey> lotuspsychje: looks like I installed that kernel version on 2017-12-18
[16:33] <Anonnyman> Anyone here? XD
[16:34] <alkisg> !ask