| Sargun | Is Bionic going to get Systemd v236? | 00:45 |
|---|---|---|
| infinity | Sargun: Almost certainly. | 01:07 |
| sarnold | hey infinity :D | 01:10 |
| tsimonq2 | Oh hey infinity :D | 01:10 |
| JackFrost | sarnold: Heh, what's up? | 05:51 |
| sarnold | JackFrost: my pandaboard (irc host) kicked the bucket .. so this is me trying to get a five-year-old configuration updated | 05:52 |
| sarnold | JackFrost: .. and of course I can't remember how to run irssi well enough to make changes live, so I edit the config and restart. | 05:52 |
| JackFrost | Ouch... Mainly just saw 'sigh I hate irssi' | 05:52 |
| JackFrost | 1. They prefer you use commands as editing config is very picky. 2. /reload | 05:53 |
| sarnold | if you looked up "technical debt" you'll surely see a screenshot of my irssi configuration. | 05:53 |
| sarnold | no kidding | 05:53 |
| sarnold | I've screwed that up before too :) | 05:53 |
| sarnold | but I don't know how to change the port of a network on the fly. heh. | 05:53 |
| Odd_Bloke | sarnold: Take this opportunity to move to weechat. | 05:54 |
| JackFrost | /SERVER MODIFY -network Freenode -port 6697 | 05:54 |
| JackFrost | Likely needs the server name, buuut. PD | 05:55 |
| sarnold | JackFrost: heh, I thought /server was deprecated a decade back | 05:56 |
| sarnold | Odd_Bloke: you know, a teeny tiny small part of me wanted it busted bad enough that I'd have to | 05:56 |
| JackFrost | sarnold: You don't use /server to connect to a new network, just /connect for that. But you do use it to add/modify/delete. | 05:56 |
| Odd_Bloke | sarnold: KSSHT FFT SORRY WHAT WAS THAT KSSHT YOUR IRC CLIENT MUST BE MALFUNCFUNCFUNC BAD ENOUGH TO USE WEWEWEE-KSHHT-CHAT | 05:57 |
| sarnold | Odd_Bloke: rofl | 05:57 |
| JackFrost | I don't think I could break irssi enough to switch to weechat. :> | 05:57 |
| sarnold | JackFrost: this is part of the problem :D I used to use /server for those kinds of things but then they added /network to manage networks separate from servers and then *years happened* and now I'm hopeless. | 05:58 |
| JackFrost | Ah yes, I'm a much more recent convert to Irssi. Sometime in 2010 or 2011. | 05:59 |
| JackFrost | ...Which isn't exactly recent anymore, but is in IRC time! | 05:59 |
| Odd_Bloke | I can't remember when I started using irssi, but that really only means it was more than two weeks ago. | 06:00 |
| sarnold | the conversion from bitchx didn't go painlessly. but it was worth it. | 06:01 |
| JackFrost | I uh...Converted from finch. >_> | 06:01 |
| sarnold | the conversion *to* bitchx didn't go painlessly either, but that too was worth it. | 06:01 |
| sarnold | heh, I can kinda see how you might have used finch .. and why you'd move :) | 06:02 |
| JackFrost | Yeah seriously, pidgin → finch → irssi. >_> | 06:03 |
| sarnold | anyway, dinner time ;) thanks | 06:03 |
| tsimonq2 | I was straight from Pidgin to Irssi very quickly and haven't looked back :D | 06:03 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ sarnold | 06:03 |
| JackFrost | Eat well, sarnold. | 06:04 |
| sarnold | :D | 06:04 |
| valorie | konversation is <3 | 06:04 |
| JackFrost | tsimonq2: finch is ncurses pidgin, fyi. | 06:05 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: I bet you use KMail too ;) | 06:06 |
| * tsimonq2 runs | 06:06 | |
| valorie | worse | 06:06 |
| valorie | gmail | 06:06 |
| tsimonq2 | JackFrost: Ahh ok, this is the first time I've heard of it | 06:06 |
| valorie | on the web | 06:06 |
| tsimonq2 | valorie: There is nothing worse than KMail >_> | 06:06 |
| valorie | rofl | 06:06 |
| Odd_Bloke | What is this, #kubuntu-devel? ;) | 06:06 |
| tsimonq2 | hahahaha | 06:06 |
| valorie | used to be my favorite KDE application | 06:06 |
| valorie | before I discovered IRC | 06:07 |
| valorie | Odd_Bloke: you too can use konvi! | 06:07 |
| valorie | 'tis in the Archive | 06:07 |
| Odd_Bloke | valorie: Given the way I use my desktop, I'm not sure I'd notice if I switched to KDE. You know, once I'd learned the shortcut to type in a command, and the name of the KDE terminal program. :p | 06:09 |
| tsimonq2 | Odd_Bloke: orrrr you could just install QTerminal ;) | 06:09 |
| valorie | yakuake! | 06:09 |
| valorie | just f12 and you're there | 06:10 |
| JackFrost | ...Dinner at 10pm? | 06:30 |
| valorie | in Spain, that's how they do it | 06:33 |
| valorie | finding dinner before 8 is nearly impossible | 06:34 |
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| TJ- | Would you consider it a bug if, with root FS on LVM, having done an "lvrename VG LV LV_new", update-grub has no way to figure out the new name (since /proc/mounts doesn't update). | 12:21 |
| tkamppeter | xnox, slangasek, hi | 15:50 |
| jbicha | doko: can we demote idle to universe? I think it's the only thing keeping tcl and tk in main | 16:00 |
| doko | jbicha: hmm, it's the only supported Python IDE. Is there a request to demote Tcl/Tk? | 16:03 |
| jbicha | yes, I'm requesting it ;) | 16:04 |
| jbicha | why do we need a supported Python IDE in main? where's the supported IDE for every other programming language? | 16:05 |
| jbicha | I think most Ubuntu developers use something other than idle when writing Python code | 16:07 |
| tkamppeter | xnox, slangasek, can you have a look at bug 1721839? It is a severe regression which we should not have in LTS and upstream is not answering. | 16:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1721839 in systemd (Ubuntu) "[REGRESSION] Services asked for by UDEV do not get triggered" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1721839 | 16:11 |
| jbicha | doko: one more reason is mentioned at LP: #1740926, it looks like we would need to have tk8.6 recommend "gnome-terminal | xterm" in order to demote xterm to universe | 16:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1740926 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Demote gitk to universe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1740926 | 16:13 |
| doko | jbicha: hmm, that might be a request from edubuntu at some time ... | 16:19 |
| jbicha | doko: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.bionic/revision/404 | 16:20 |
| doko | blame the comitter for not giving a rationale ... | 16:22 |
| jbicha | Wikipedia says Ubuntu Education Edition had its first release shortly after that, so your theory might be right | 16:22 |
| doko | ogra: what's the status of edubuntu? | 16:23 |
| jbicha | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-March/039281.html | 16:24 |
| jbicha | but Edubuntu included universe anyway in recent releases | 16:31 |
| ginggs | doko: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-March/039281.html | 16:36 |
| ginggs | woops jbicha already did that | 16:36 |
| ogra | doqdead since 14.04 i think ( i havent touched it since 2012, better ask the edubuntu-council) | 16:54 |
| ogra | doko, ^^ | 16:54 |
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