[11:07] <usrshv> hi! where can i read history of kernel updates in ubuntu mate? After update my laptop wont boot with new.
[12:39] <adam_> hello
[12:44] <diogenes_> hello
[17:43] <carl_> me gusta el maincra
[17:44] <DarkPsydeLord> shame on you
[19:31] <chaotix> hello.  i have just done a fresh install of ubuntu mate 17.10, and I have no right click context menu in anmy application at all.  The corresponding keyboard button between right-alt and right-control works for the context menu, but not the right mouse button.  it is a laptop, touchpad...
[19:32] <chaotix> i think it actually might be a driver thing, because it treats the right and left mouse/touchpad buttons as the same and i also have no wifi, forced to use ethernet
[19:35] <diogenes_> chaotix, what pc?
[19:36] <chaotix> toshiba sattelite c55
[19:36] <chaotix> dorry l55
[19:36] <chaotix> sorry**
[19:36] <diogenes_> how old is it?
[19:36] <chaotix> it was a gift, and from what i am reading toshiba is not linux friendly
[19:36] <chaotix> i think fairly new
[19:37] <chaotix> let me try to find out.  i htink 2 years max
[19:37] <chaotix> its an intel core i5
[19:38] <chaotix> found it....   https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Satellite-L55-A5284-15-6-Inch-Processor/dp/B00DMMPQ3O
[19:39] <chaotix> i tried to live boot quite a few linux distros and had no wifi support, so i decided to just install ubuntu mate and see if i could find a way to make everything work
[19:39] <diogenes_> chaotix, ok have you checked the driver manager?
[19:39] <chaotix> it says 2 proprietary drivers arte in use
[19:40] <diogenes_> which ones?
[19:41] <chaotix> sorry...   one being the broadcom wifi one...  the other one says...
[19:42] <chaotix> unknown:unknown,  and "Using processor microcode firmware for intel CPUs from intel-microcode (proprietary)
[19:44] <diogenes_> ok try to uncheck the broadcom and let it use the open source driver if available
[19:44] <diogenes_> so as a result you need to get only 1 proprietary driver in use, the microcode
[19:44] <chaotix> ok
[19:45] <diogenes_> reboot afterwards and come back here
[19:47] <chaotix> ok thank you
[19:47] <sixwheeledbeast> YOu need to find out which broadcom card you have. i would look at the mouse issue first.
[19:47] <chaotix> much appreciated, I love the ubuntu community!
[19:47] <sixwheeledbeast> lspci will help
[19:47] <diogenes_> ok when you back, sixwheeledbeast will try to assist you further.
[19:47] <sixwheeledbeast> lspci | grep -i wireless
[19:48] <chaotix> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26362011/
[19:48] <chaotix> ok hold on
[19:48] <chaotix> "lspci | grep -i wireless" gives no outpu
[19:49] <chaotix> im going to reboot and come back
[19:49] <sixwheeledbeast> Broadcom Limited BCM43142 < this is what you need
[19:50] <diogenes_> sixwheeledbeast, why the proprietary driver didn't see the card?
[19:51] <sixwheeledbeast> b43 isn't compatible with that card IIRC
[19:56] <chris__> ok back
[19:59] <chaotix> ok back
[19:59] <sixwheeledbeast> This will help for you wireless issues https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[20:00] <sixwheeledbeast> b43 is not compatible will that card
[20:01] <chaotix> thank you
[20:02] <sixwheeledbeast> I would try removing b43 (which I imagine has been installed automatically) and use bcmwl.
[20:03] <sixwheeledbeast> it could even be they are both installed and are conflicting so removing b43 and restarting may do the trick
[20:03] <sixwheeledbeast> Had that before.
[20:03] <chaotix> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26362102/
[20:04] <chaotix> ok
[20:04] <chaotix> and what are the steps, or a link to them, for removing b43?
[20:05] <chaotix> i did "apt-cache search b43" and see a b43 installer
[20:05] <chaotix> ill just google it lol
[20:07] <chaotix> that link tyou gave nme has it all, sorry
[20:07] <chaotix> should have openned my eyes
[20:14] <sixwheeledbeast> Yeah most of the issues are listed on there. If try bcmwl if not you could try ndiswrapper option as a last resort.
[20:16] <chaotix> hey
[20:16] <chaotix> im having trouble getting any of them to work other than b43
[20:16] <chaotix> can i share the outputs with you and get some feedback?
[20:23] <chaotix> sixwheeledbeast, you suggested removing b43 and using bcmwl, but thats the proprietary one...  is that the one you mean?
[20:24] <sixwheeledbeast> Yer, that card is not compatible with b43 open drivers I believe
[20:25] <sixwheeledbeast> so the options are bcmwl closed or ndiswrapper
[20:28] <chaotix> ok
[20:28] <chaotix> i kind of just lost touchpad support also
[20:28] <chaotix> ughhh
[20:29] <sixwheeledbeast> the wireless will work with some messing but I am not sure about the touchpad.
[20:29] <chaotix> i tried installing xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[20:29] <chaotix> and after that, ran sudo rmod psmouse && sudo modprobe psmouse
[20:29] <chaotix> and now the touchpad wont move
[20:34] <sixwheeledbeast> You got the wifi working then?
[20:40] <chaotix> I got the right-click fixrd
[20:40] <chaotix> Now for the WIFI
[20:40] <chaotix> Man, this reminds me of back in the day linus
[20:40] <chaotix> linux**
[20:41] <chaotix> i'm used to everygthing working out of the box, for several years now, on every computer I have installed any linux distro on
[20:41] <chaotix> this is still much better than installing windows
[20:41] <chaotix> lol
[20:43] <diogenes_> chaotix, but has this particular pc worked fine before with other linux versions?
[20:44] <chaotix> no
[20:44] <chaotix> This was a gift from my boss
[20:44] <chaotix> I just got it
[20:44] <diogenes_> I see
[20:44] <chaotix> I have never installed linux on it
[20:44] <diogenes_> ok
[20:44] <chaotix> From what I am reading toshiba doesn't play well with linux
[20:44] <diogenes_> so it was kinda double surprise :D
[20:44] <chaotix> yeah :)
[20:44] <chaotix> i dont mind, we'll figure it out
[20:45] <chaotix> hopefully the issues will be fixed in future linux kernel versions...  i dont know if thats possible but i assume that's why things work out of the box on most laptops now
[20:45] <diogenes_> chaotix, maybe getting yourself a wifi dongle for 10 dollars on some ebay might be a good thing.
[20:46] <chaotix> true
[20:47] <diogenes_> and it will be only a temporary alternative because I bet there will be a fix for your wifi card also.
[20:48] <chaotix> hey, what is the easiest way to get hotcorners in  ubuntu mate?  compiz settings?
[20:48] <diogenes_> yeah, compiz is the best thing in the world :D
[20:48] <diogenes_> it can do literally everything
[20:50] <chaotix> cool
[20:51]  * alkisg would love some coffee now... runs apt install compiz... :)
[20:51]  * diogenes_ adores compiz, without it there is no Sun!
[20:52] <chaotix> speaking of which, i think unity is going to get really cool once the community takes it over
[20:53] <sixwheeledbeast> I don't use compiz, keep things light.
[20:53] <chaotix> i love it, but innovation stagnated
[20:53] <chaotix> that works
[20:54] <sixwheeledbeast> not keen on Unity/Munity either, part of the reason I switched to MATE in the first place.
[20:54] <diogenes_> sixwheeledbeast, with the help of compiz and xdotool, I set up the pc for my 74 yo granny so with only one or two button she does all the work that otherwise would take a dozen of clicks :)
[20:55] <diogenes_> she is happy and I am happy.
[20:55] <Guest37782> how is she finding the pc? guessing she can use it easliy? planning on setting up the same for my grandad
[20:55] <Guest37782> mostly because windows is too expensive lol
[20:56] <Guest37782> i think as long as I set it up for him it will be okay, just need to make sure I tinker with it
[20:57] <sixwheeledbeast> You could do similar without compiz. but there are so many ways to do lots of things that's the point.
[20:58] <sixwheeledbeast> I prefer to keep thinks light, compositing is off.
[20:58] <chaotix> hey how to change expo desktop switcher so that the desktops are 2x2 instead of 4x1?  In compix
[20:58] <diogenes_> sixwheeledbeast, nah, the trick is the window rules dimensions and strict placement so only conpiz has all in one
[20:58] <diogenes_> otherwise I'd have to use a ton of different apps
[21:03] <chaotix> diogenes_, how to change virtual desktops to 2x2 instead of 1x4?
[21:04] <sixwheeledbeast> Everyone has there own work flow and ways of doing things. Another person may have had another way to keep it simple.
[21:08] <chaotix> got it.....   ccsm->genera;->general options->desktop size
[22:14] <ylanes> Good evening. How do you uninstall software like LibreOffice?
[22:19] <diogenes_> ylanes, apt remove libreoffice
[22:20] <ylanes> Thank you so much.
[22:20] <diogenes_> you're welcome