[08:33] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:59] <diddledan> mornin
[10:01] <brobostigon> morning
[10:12] <diddledan> yeesh: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/01/09/spyware-user-tracked-boyfriend-to-have-him-killed-by-hitman/
[10:23] <zmoylan-pi> problem is they tried to use outsourcing and had no previous experience hiring a hitman :-P
[10:25] <SuperMatt> good morning all
[10:30] <czajkowski> ello
[10:31] <foobarry> The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures project (cve.mitre.org) has assigned the identifiers CVE-2017-5753 (Bounds Check bypass) and CVE-2017-5715 (Branch Target Injection) to these issues.
[10:32] <foobarry> are both of these as risky as each otehr?
[10:32] <foobarry> vmware 5.5 doesn't have a patch for 5753 , dunno if its forthcoming or not
[16:16] <diddledan> ebay, as a single man why are you advertising at me "Lapel Flower Lace Brazilian Briefs" (for women)?!
[16:18] <diddledan> oh dear: https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/2018-01-09-issue-with-tls-sni-01-and-shared-hosting-infrastructure/49996
[16:42] <knightwise> hey diddledan
[16:42] <knightwise> diddledan: I told you about covering up your webcam when you are in drag
[16:42] <diddledan> :-p
[16:42] <diddledan> sshhh
[16:42] <diddledan> that was just for you
[16:43] <knightwise> and having monthly rants with alexa when you are on your "period" also is confusing the hell of out jef's algorythems
[16:43] <diddledan> lol
[16:47] <zmoylan-pi> because ebay knows you better than you know yourself? :-)
[16:47] <diddledan> didn't the Orcale say something about knowing thyself?
[16:47] <zmoylan-pi> no no, that was dirty harry...
[16:48] <diddledan> oh, I thought he just asked whether you were lucky..
[16:48] <zmoylan-pi> garak never stood a chance...
[16:48] <diddledan> well, what's a simple tailor to do?!
[16:49] <zmoylan-pi> sew his own shroud?
[16:49] <diddledan> Garak was epic
[16:49] <diddledan> I really need to watch that again
[16:49] <zmoylan-pi> garak was enough reason to love ds9
[16:49] <diddledan> problem is, end-to-end is a lot of hours
[16:49] <zmoylan-pi> his spin on the boy who cried wolf...
[16:51] <daftykins> he was ace :D
[16:51] <daftykins> i liked how long he kept you guessing about his true history, too
[16:52] <diddledan> I've forgotten most of everything
[16:52] <daftykins> i get that with all TV series too, it's great for re-watchability, but weird for trying to think about what you just spent hundreds of hours doing
[16:53] <zmoylan-pi> nearly as good as b5
[16:55] <diddledan> I've been enjoying that new spacey thing with the weird crystal life and the undertones of war between the belters and mars and the UN
[16:55] <diddledan> can't think of it's name now though
[16:55] <diddledan> damn I suck
[16:56] <diddledan> the expanse
[16:57] <zmoylan-pi> psaw one episode, liked it, haven't watched it since...
[16:57] <daftykins> ah i never kept up with that, though the season 1 headless bit was amusing
[17:00] <daftykins> watching GDQ at the mo, Battletoads on arcade hardware :o www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick
[17:02] <diddledan> I've been catching up on "travellers" the past couple
[17:03] <zmoylan-pi> and in recent news a chinese company has revealed a suitcase that follows it's owner which is straight from red dwarf...
[17:04] <daftykins> not Discworld?
[17:04] <daftykins> is it scutter-esque?
[17:04] <zmoylan-pi> no legs involved and were would you get the sapient pearwood?
[17:20] <daftykins> btw i spotted creme eggs already, what's going on?
[17:21] <zmoylan-pi> they're not cadburys creme eggs, they're now kraft creme eggs, taste different
[17:21] <zmoylan-pi> and we have a small window pre valentines day push for easter crap
[17:21] <daftykins> o0
[17:22] <daftykins> that's concerning
[17:22] <daftykins> i will have to examine the packaging closer!
[17:22] <daftykins> i only recently discovered why all the sacla pesto i keep buying tastes like crap, turns out i want the "#1" and not this "#9" the shop by me sells
[17:24] <zmoylan-pi> kraft bought cadburys, they changed the recipe
[17:24] <zmoylan-pi> next thing been changed is irn bru. scots are not a happy bunch... even more so than normal... :-P
[17:28] <daftykins> mmm read about that one, nasty
[17:30] <zmoylan-pi> if they make the scots eat healthy food, there'll be a surplus of scots!!
[20:04] <czajkowski> popey: are you on 17.10 ?
[20:04] <popey> I have a 17.10 machine next to me
[20:04] <czajkowski> what's it like ?
[20:04] <czajkowski> good bad indifferent ?
[20:05] <czajkowski> need to upgrade this machine
[20:06] <daftykins> download it and take it for a spin? :)
[20:06] <popey> My main machine is 16.04. I only have 17.10 to test it.
[20:07] <popey> I am running Unity on both. I ran GNOME Shell for a while on 17.10 but I found it too slow.
[20:09] <czajkowski> can always do a fresh install if I don't like it
[20:09] <czajkowski> cant hurt to try something new
[20:15] <daftykins> or can it...
[20:22] <czajkowski> we're at the installing the updates part
[20:30] <czajkowski> cleaning up
[20:30] <popey> :)
[20:30] <czajkowski> 190 packages going bye byw
[20:34] <czajkowski> and back
[20:34] <czajkowski> hmm
[20:35] <czajkowski> popey: how do I lock things to the side bar ?
[20:35] <popey> uh
[20:35] <popey> launch them, then right click the icon and add to favorites?
[20:36] <czajkowski> hmm my right click on the track pad seems to have been disabled
[20:36] <czajkowski> nothing right clicks
[20:38] <czajkowski> omg the buttons are on the right hand side
[20:38] <daftykins> xD
[20:42] <diddledan> biggest mistake ever to move them to the left. and an even bigger mistake to put them back again
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[20:43] <czajkowski> no hud
[21:19] <czajkowski> popey: any idea where I can find track pad - right click settings?
[21:20] <czajkowski> I found Mouse and Touchpad
[21:20] <czajkowski> but nothing for right click
[21:20] <popey> there's a tweak tool which has more options
[21:20] <popey> because it seems gnome upstream have removed some things from some places that people like
[21:20] <popey> tweak tool provides a UI to see those things you miss in many cases
[21:22] <czajkowski> ah interesting
[21:22] <czajkowski> to me right click is a default
[21:22] <czajkowski> everthing else seems not too bad
[21:22] <czajkowski> differnet but usable
[21:23] <czajkowski> popey: how do I install stuff?
[21:23] <popey> gnome software or apt or snap ;)
[21:27] <czajkowski> ohh buttons back on the left - nice tool
[21:27] <czajkowski> and right click
[21:27] <czajkowski> popey: thank you
[21:27] <popey> yay
[21:28] <czajkowski> oa  few things are off like clock and calendar
[21:28] <czajkowski> and then the tweak tool fixes it
[21:28] <popey> I find some of the GNOME design decisions to be very odd, but seems I'm in the minority :(
[21:29] <diddledan> no, you're wrong. the Gnome design decisions are correct. As mandated by the Ministry of Truth
[21:29] <czajkowski> the clock being off is very odd
[21:36] <daftykins> diddledan: :)
[21:42] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/opensourceway/status/951207509070577665
[23:21] <diddledan> if I knew what one was, I still wouldn't be able to Even: https://twitter.com/jedisct1/status/951231933081706497