[05:20] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: Please could you take a look at https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8285?
[05:20] <wallyworld> sure
[05:22] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: should the default exclude list contain several more read only methods out of the box?
[05:38] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: left some comments, happy to discuss
[06:04] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: no, I don't think it should - I had a pretty big discussion with John about that in the last change. See discussion here: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8242#issuecomment-352670932
[06:04] <babbageclunk> (sorry, off doing dinner and bath time - will look at the comment s in a bit.)
[06:06] <wallyworld> ok
[06:08] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: his point was to audit all write methods by default and filter out read methods. but i don't think an opinion was offered as to the value in logging lots of read only methods which really don't reflect changes to the system
[06:09] <wallyworld> i can't see any point in recording that someone ran ListModels
[06:09] <wallyworld> why is that any more interesting that Status
[06:09] <wallyworld> do we have field input on this?
[06:11] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: i'll be in and out - got to start packing, so if i don't respnd straight away, it's not that i'm ignoring you :-)
[09:19] <tasdomas> morning
[09:19] <tasdomas> could I get a review of https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8262 ?
[10:35] <babbageclunk> wallyworld_: The thinking isn't that ListModels is interesting, rather that it's pretty unlikely someone is running it so often that it would swamp the log (say, running it under watch).