/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/01/12/#ubuntu-discuss.txt

lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:34
lotuspsychjehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/intel-s-microcode-update-for-meltdown-and-spectre-now-available-in-ubuntu-linux-519340.shtml05:40
lotuspsychje!find microcode05:43
ubot5Found: amd64-microcode, microcode.ctl, intel-microcode, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 275 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=microcode&searchon=names&suite=artful&section=all05:43
lotuspsychje!info intel-microcode xenial05:44
ubot5intel-microcode (source: intel-microcode): Processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs. In component main, is extra. Version 3.20180108.0~ubuntu16.04.2 (xenial), package size 1199 kB, installed size 1699 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; x32)05:44
lotuspsychjeneat05:44
ducassegood morning, all05:49
lotuspsychjehey hey ducasse sleep well mate?05:49
alkisgGood morning good people :)05:52
lotuspsychjehey hey alkisg05:52
ducassewell enough, thanks :) how about you, lotuspsychje - bright-eyed and bushy-tailed?05:52
ducassehi alkisg05:52
lotuspsychjelil headaque, but nothing a few pills can manage :p05:53
oerhekswhy, oh why, does synaptic not run on 17.1006:31
lotuspsychjehey EriC^^06:31
EriC^^hey lotuspsychje oerheks06:31
oerhekseverybody loves EriC^^06:31
oerheks..wait06:31
EriC^^lol06:31
EriC^^different show06:32
EriC^^:D06:32
oerheksbut now i am playing with LMMS and akai MPK mini .. it is fun06:32
lotuspsychjeoerheks: want me to test synapitic on bionic?06:34
oerhekslotuspsychje, it should work, no?06:35
lotuspsychjelemme try holdon06:35
oerheksi really want it, the only way to find extra packages and add stuff06:35
lotuspsychjedocbook-xml libept1.5.0 librarian0 rarian-compat sgml-base sgml-data06:35
lotuspsychje  synaptic xml-core06:35
lotuspsychjeinstalling06:35
lotuspsychjeoerheks: seems to work here06:37
oerheks:-(06:37
oerheksbut i am in wayland session.. odd06:37
lotuspsychjeim on xorg06:37
oerheksthis post says it works on xorg, hmmm06:39
ducasseit doesn't work under wayland unless that polkit stuff has been fixed06:39
oerheksyeah, i read the fedora posts too ..06:40
oerheksthe only temporary fix would be: xhost +si:localuser:root06:41
oerheksor logout and run xorg06:41
lotuspsychjethat might be worth a bug oerheks06:43
EriC^^i wonder what goes on in ##chat with bazhang06:46
EriC^^every day somebody cusses him out in #ubuntu xD06:46
lotuspsychjethey surely got nice friends lol06:49
oerhekshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/171208906:53
ubot5Launchpad bug 1712089 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyUnable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused" [High,Triaged]06:53
oerhekshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/170474806:55
ubot5Launchpad bug 1551951 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1704748 synaptic does not run over gnome wayland session" [Medium,Confirmed]06:55
lotuspsychjeaha06:56
EriC^^i'm liking this Sigyn guy06:56
EriC^^it's a bot?06:56
lotuspsychjeEriC^^: yeah dax arranged that06:58
EriC^^good one06:58
oerheksimmuuuuuuuuuu i need a new keyboard07:29
lotuspsychjehehe07:30
oerhekshmm i kinda like 17.10/wayland with gnome-tweak and stuff07:31
* oerheks wipes a unity-tear07:31
lotuspsychjehehe07:33
oerhekshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmi60Bd4jSs07:34
oerheksi can play this now :-D07:35
lotuspsychjethis guy trolling us omg..07:41
oerheksthat bios is too old..07:42
lotuspsychjegot the same bios oerheks07:45
lotuspsychjebut i had some usb brands that dont wanna boot there07:45
oerheksaward .. but he told that machine is way old ..07:45
lotuspsychje3y is old?07:46
oerhekswell .. we tried07:46
lotuspsychjei think he doesnt understand bios, or usb stick broken, orrr hes trolling lol07:46
oerheksor drunk07:47
oerheks:-D07:47
lotuspsychjehahaha07:48
lotuspsychjei tryed that couple of times drunk irc07:49
lotuspsychjeits funny if there's food around07:49
Bashing-omfun as it us ( here ) .. I got to cease and desust .. g nite guys \o07:52
lotuspsychjebbl work :p08:38
immuhi09:55
oerhekshi immu10:00
immuhi oerheks hows every body here10:00
immuits being few days since i have being here10:00
oerheksBen64, jtech is back? we spend 5 hrs to boot, nothing works..10:00
oerheksi guess his machine is too old, but he claims it once did...10:00
Ben64yeah something seems wonky10:01
oerheksand something about his hdd is bad ?.. i gave up10:02
oerheksyou might want to read the irc logs .. but you need 1 hr to read it all i think10:02
Ben64dont got time for that :D10:02
alkisgI offered to check it via vnc, he didn't want. I won't spend 3 hours on irc just to see that his usb stick is bad :)10:03
Ben64seems the most likely answer so far10:03
alkisgSome people just don't execute/report instructions well...10:03
oerheksi think his machine *never* booted from usb-stick10:03
alkisgIt already has ubuntu there, just broken installation10:04
Ben64i'm wondering about this iptables stuff this dude was talking about10:04
oerheksfrom dvd perhaps.. 15.04 ..10:04
alkisgOne method would be to tell his existing grub to load the configfile from usb... but it'll take 20 minutes to explain it to him10:04
Ben64i'm no iptables expert but it seems weird to me that it'd be broken for 9 years and nobody would have fixed it by now10:04
lordievaderGood morning10:08
EriC^^morning lordievader10:12
lordievaderHey EriC^^10:12
lordievaderHow are you doing?10:12
EriC^^good thank you, yourself?10:13
lordievaderDoing good here10:15
immuhi EriC^^10:17
lordievaderHey immu10:18
lordievaderHow are you doing10:18
EriC^^hi immu10:20
immuhi lordievader whats up10:20
immui am good10:21
lordievaderDoing good here too10:21
oerheksalkisg, yeah, this is so simple i guess he likes to talk, not solve problems10:26
oerheksheya lordievader :-D10:26
alkisgQuite possibly! :D10:26
lordievaderHey oerheks10:35
oerheksyay http://releases.ubuntu.com/17.10.1/10:42
kostkonlived enough to see a non-lts point release coming out10:45
EriC^^everyone: if Kubuntu_user comes back, tell him to run 'sudo mount /boot/efi && sudo grub-install && sudo apt-get install grub-pc; sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed'10:55
EriC^^nevermind10:55
BluesKajHiyas all10:58
jinkMorning. :)11:01
BluesKaj'Morning jink11:03
immuhi all11:53
BluesKajhey immu12:11
immuhey BluesKaj12:11
immuwhats up12:12
BluesKajjust the usual, nothing really new here12:13
BluesKajhow about you?12:14
pauljwhi everyone12:44
EriC^^hey pauljw :)12:47
pauljwhi EriC^^ :)12:48
BluesKajHi pauljw12:52
BluesKajHi EriC^^12:52
pauljwBluesKaj, how's it going? :)12:52
BluesKajfine here pauljw, and you?12:53
pauljwgood, thanks.12:53
BluesKajcooled off overnight, back to winter :-)12:53
EriC^^hi BluesKaj12:53
pauljwsame here BluesKaj, went from 68F to 28F overnite, rain, ice and expected 4-6in of snow today.13:03
BluesKajwe just got about an inch of snow, but it's a bloody cold wind out there...supposed to calm down btytonight.13:11
pauljw:)13:18
TJ-Recommendation (from security team) is that users DO NOT install/update the intel-microcode 20180108 package. Intel is reporting some systems having reboot failures.13:33
TJ-More info in the "CLIENT SYSTEMS" > "Withdrawm CPU Micocode Updates" section of this Lenovo advisory: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/gb/en/product_security/ps50015113:33
TJ-Intel advisory: https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-security-issue-update-addressing-reboot-issues/13:37
lordievaderTJ-: How fun 😞13:40
TJ-Intel aren't covering themselves in glory are they? It points to the fact their mitigations in microcode have been created recently and not thoroughly tested. I had been hoping they'd started on such a course before last October when they first published kernel code (since presumably to need to do kernel updates they already knew this wasn't completely fixable in microcode)13:42
kostkonTJ-, first the kernel, now this, what a mess13:50
nicomachusgot a flash update this morning that's taking over an hour to download. what the heck16:48
daftykinsflash, hah16:50
nicomachusyea, tell all my browsers to just kill it already16:51
nicomachusandddd it's stuck again.16:55
=== kostkon_ is now known as kostkon
oerhekso man, his problem starts all over again, first that boo that keeps pushing about sda .. it never was23:37
naccoerheks: yeah this is some serious hot mess23:38
oerheksthat ext drive might be ntfs, unmounted dirty .. or not ntfs at all, but exfat23:38
oerheks" it works on windows"  sure, windows accept dirty drives23:38
Bashing-omI am going to pour another cup of coffee and watch :P23:39
oerhekssudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils // and plugin agin.. simple test23:39
oerheksBashing-om, yeah, me too .. i don' t like tv anymore, 50% commercials, this is more exiting :-D23:40
Bashing-omoerheks: TV: same .. I quit that some years back . So many commercials can not hold my attention on the program .23:41
oerheksi am thinking to cancel that tv stuff, just internet + phone, tripple play was a cheap deal23:42
oerheksdutch tv 1 2 3 is free available, and local broadcasts23:43
oerheksanyone wants to buy a hd tv??? or should i use it as an expensive monitor :-D23:43
Bashing-omoerheks: Cable TV has gotten so expensive here - we too consider dropping it .. and going back to off the air broadcasting .23:45
oerhekstripple play here is just 40 euro's .. plus phone costs23:51
Bashing-omoerheks: I think about setting up a media center ,, but IF I do .. would take away from learning linux :P23:52

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