[05:34] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/intel-s-microcode-update-for-meltdown-and-spectre-now-available-in-ubuntu-linux-519340.shtml
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !find microcode
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> !info intel-microcode xenial
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> neat
[05:49] <ducasse> good morning, all
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> hey hey ducasse sleep well mate?
[05:52] <alkisg> Good morning good people :)
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> hey hey alkisg
[05:52] <ducasse> well enough, thanks :) how about you, lotuspsychje - bright-eyed and bushy-tailed?
[05:52] <ducasse> hi alkisg
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> lil headaque, but nothing a few pills can manage :p
[06:31] <oerheks> why, oh why, does synaptic not run on 17.10
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[06:31] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje oerheks
[06:31] <oerheks> everybody loves EriC^^
[06:31] <oerheks> ..wait
[06:31] <EriC^^> lol
[06:32] <EriC^^> different show
[06:32] <EriC^^> :D
[06:32] <oerheks> but now i am playing with LMMS and akai MPK mini .. it is fun
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: want me to test synapitic on bionic?
[06:35] <oerheks> lotuspsychje, it should work, no?
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> lemme try holdon
[06:35] <oerheks> i really want it, the only way to find extra packages and add stuff
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> docbook-xml libept1.5.0 librarian0 rarian-compat sgml-base sgml-data
[06:35] <lotuspsychje>   synaptic xml-core
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> installing
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: seems to work here
[06:37] <oerheks> :-(
[06:37] <oerheks> but i am in wayland session.. odd
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> im on xorg
[06:39] <oerheks> this post says it works on xorg, hmmm
[06:39] <ducasse> it doesn't work under wayland unless that polkit stuff has been fixed
[06:40] <oerheks> yeah, i read the fedora posts too ..
[06:41] <oerheks> the only temporary fix would be: xhost +si:localuser:root
[06:41] <oerheks> or logout and run xorg
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> that might be worth a bug oerheks
[06:46] <EriC^^> i wonder what goes on in ##chat with bazhang
[06:46] <EriC^^> every day somebody cusses him out in #ubuntu xD
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> they surely got nice friends lol
[06:53] <oerheks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/1712089
[06:55] <oerheks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/1704748
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> aha
[06:56] <EriC^^> i'm liking this Sigyn guy
[06:56] <EriC^^> it's a bot?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: yeah dax arranged that
[06:58] <EriC^^> good one
[07:29] <oerheks> immuuuuuuuuuu i need a new keyboard
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[07:31] <oerheks> hmm i kinda like 17.10/wayland with gnome-tweak and stuff
[07:31]  * oerheks wipes a unity-tear
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[07:34] <oerheks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmi60Bd4jSs
[07:35] <oerheks> i can play this now :-D
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> this guy trolling us omg..
[07:42] <oerheks> that bios is too old..
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> got the same bios oerheks
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> but i had some usb brands that dont wanna boot there
[07:45] <oerheks> award .. but he told that machine is way old ..
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> 3y is old?
[07:46] <oerheks> well .. we tried
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> i think he doesnt understand bios, or usb stick broken, orrr hes trolling lol
[07:47] <oerheks> or drunk
[07:47] <oerheks> :-D
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> hahaha
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> i tryed that couple of times drunk irc
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> its funny if there's food around
[07:52] <Bashing-om> fun as it us ( here ) .. I got to cease and desust .. g nite guys \o
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> bbl work :p
[09:55] <immu> hi
[10:00] <oerheks> hi immu
[10:00] <immu> hi oerheks hows every body here
[10:00] <immu> its being few days since i have being here
[10:00] <oerheks> Ben64, jtech is back? we spend 5 hrs to boot, nothing works..
[10:00] <oerheks> i guess his machine is too old, but he claims it once did...
[10:01] <Ben64> yeah something seems wonky
[10:02] <oerheks> and something about his hdd is bad ?.. i gave up
[10:02] <oerheks> you might want to read the irc logs .. but you need 1 hr to read it all i think
[10:02] <Ben64> dont got time for that :D
[10:03] <alkisg> I offered to check it via vnc, he didn't want. I won't spend 3 hours on irc just to see that his usb stick is bad :)
[10:03] <Ben64> seems the most likely answer so far
[10:03] <alkisg> Some people just don't execute/report instructions well...
[10:03] <oerheks> i think his machine *never* booted from usb-stick
[10:04] <alkisg> It already has ubuntu there, just broken installation
[10:04] <Ben64> i'm wondering about this iptables stuff this dude was talking about
[10:04] <oerheks> from dvd perhaps.. 15.04 ..
[10:04] <alkisg> One method would be to tell his existing grub to load the configfile from usb... but it'll take 20 minutes to explain it to him
[10:04] <Ben64> i'm no iptables expert but it seems weird to me that it'd be broken for 9 years and nobody would have fixed it by now
[10:08] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:12] <EriC^^> morning lordievader
[10:12] <lordievader> Hey EriC^^
[10:12] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[10:13] <EriC^^> good thank you, yourself?
[10:15] <lordievader> Doing good here
[10:17] <immu> hi EriC^^
[10:18] <lordievader> Hey immu
[10:18] <lordievader> How are you doing
[10:20] <EriC^^> hi immu
[10:20] <immu> hi lordievader whats up
[10:21] <immu> i am good
[10:21] <lordievader> Doing good here too
[10:26] <oerheks> alkisg, yeah, this is so simple i guess he likes to talk, not solve problems
[10:26] <oerheks> heya lordievader :-D
[10:26] <alkisg> Quite possibly! :D
[10:35] <lordievader> Hey oerheks
[10:42] <oerheks> yay http://releases.ubuntu.com/17.10.1/
[10:45] <kostkon> lived enough to see a non-lts point release coming out
[10:55] <EriC^^> everyone: if Kubuntu_user comes back, tell him to run 'sudo mount /boot/efi && sudo grub-install && sudo apt-get install grub-pc; sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed'
[10:55] <EriC^^> nevermind
[10:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:01] <jink> Morning. :)
[11:03] <BluesKaj> 'Morning jink
[11:53] <immu> hi all
[12:11] <BluesKaj> hey immu
[12:11] <immu> hey BluesKaj
[12:12] <immu> whats up
[12:13] <BluesKaj> just the usual, nothing really new here
[12:14] <BluesKaj> how about you?
[12:44] <pauljw> hi everyone
[12:47] <EriC^^> hey pauljw :)
[12:48] <pauljw> hi EriC^^ :)
[12:52] <BluesKaj> Hi pauljw
[12:52] <BluesKaj> Hi EriC^^
[12:52] <pauljw> BluesKaj, how's it going? :)
[12:53] <BluesKaj> fine here pauljw, and you?
[12:53] <pauljw> good, thanks.
[12:53] <BluesKaj> cooled off overnight, back to winter :-)
[12:53] <EriC^^> hi BluesKaj
[13:03] <pauljw> same here BluesKaj, went from 68F to 28F overnite, rain, ice and expected 4-6in of snow today.
[13:11] <BluesKaj> we just got about an inch of snow, but it's a bloody cold wind out there...supposed to calm down btytonight.
[13:18] <pauljw> :)
[13:33] <TJ-> Recommendation (from security team) is that users DO NOT install/update the intel-microcode 20180108 package. Intel is reporting some systems having reboot failures.
[13:33] <TJ-> More info in the "CLIENT SYSTEMS" > "Withdrawm CPU Micocode Updates" section of this Lenovo advisory: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/gb/en/product_security/ps500151
[13:37] <TJ-> Intel advisory: https://newsroom.intel.com/news/intel-security-issue-update-addressing-reboot-issues/
[13:40] <lordievader> TJ-: How fun 😞
[13:42] <TJ-> Intel aren't covering themselves in glory are they? It points to the fact their mitigations in microcode have been created recently and not thoroughly tested. I had been hoping they'd started on such a course before last October when they first published kernel code (since presumably to need to do kernel updates they already knew this wasn't completely fixable in microcode)
[13:50] <kostkon> TJ-, first the kernel, now this, what a mess
[16:48] <nicomachus> got a flash update this morning that's taking over an hour to download. what the heck
[16:50] <daftykins> flash, hah
[16:51] <nicomachus> yea, tell all my browsers to just kill it already
[16:55] <nicomachus> andddd it's stuck again.
[23:37] <oerheks> o man, his problem starts all over again, first that boo that keeps pushing about sda .. it never was
[23:38] <nacc> oerheks: yeah this is some serious hot mess
[23:38] <oerheks> that ext drive might be ntfs, unmounted dirty .. or not ntfs at all, but exfat
[23:38] <oerheks> " it works on windows"  sure, windows accept dirty drives
[23:39] <Bashing-om> I am going to pour another cup of coffee and watch :P
[23:39] <oerheks> sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils // and plugin agin.. simple test
[23:40] <oerheks> Bashing-om, yeah, me too .. i don' t like tv anymore, 50% commercials, this is more exiting :-D
[23:41] <Bashing-om> oerheks: TV: same .. I quit that some years back . So many commercials can not hold my attention on the program .
[23:42] <oerheks> i am thinking to cancel that tv stuff, just internet + phone, tripple play was a cheap deal
[23:43] <oerheks> dutch tv 1 2 3 is free available, and local broadcasts
[23:43] <oerheks> anyone wants to buy a hd tv??? or should i use it as an expensive monitor :-D
[23:45] <Bashing-om> oerheks: Cable TV has gotten so expensive here - we too consider dropping it .. and going back to off the air broadcasting .
[23:51] <oerheks> tripple play here is just 40 euro's .. plus phone costs
[23:52] <Bashing-om> oerheks: I think about setting up a media center ,, but IF I do .. would take away from learning linux :P